NationStates Jolt Archive


UN Delegates

Conscribed Comradeship
26-06-2005, 11:14
Does the U.N. delegate for a region decide the rules for the entire said region?
Since electing a U.N. delegate no legislation has been forthcoming in the other nations of my region! :(
Crazy girl
26-06-2005, 11:17
UN Delegates:

Can vote on proposals
Can vote on resolutions on behalf of the region

Resolutions that get enough votes from UN members and UN delegates get implemented in all UN members

Nations not in the UN are not affected

UN delegates also have regional powers if:
The founder hasn't barred delegate access
The founder is in another region
The founder is dead
The region just has no founder

Regional powers are:
ban/unban nations
eject nations
Change the world factbook entry
password the region/remove password protection
Haken Rider
26-06-2005, 11:26
Regional powers are:
ban/unban nations
eject nations
Change the world factbook entry
password the region/remove password protection

Yes, but with a delegate:

Regional powers are:
ban/unban nations => Don't think a delegate may do that
eject nations => must be unbanned immediately!
Change the world factbook entry
password the region/remove password protection=> password must be telegrammed to all UN natives
Crazy girl
26-06-2005, 11:31
Native Delegates are allowed to ban a few natives and ban as many non-natives as they want
Invading Delegates have to unban ejected natives immediatly (you can't eject without banning, when ejecting a nation, it is immediatly put on the banlist too)
Invading Delegates can ban as many non-natives as they want

For a native delegate, he doesn't have to give out the password, an invading delegate must give the password immediatly to all natives (not just the ones in the UN)
Enn
26-06-2005, 12:40
eject nations => must be unbanned immediately!
Only in the case of an invading delegate, AFAIK. Native delegates can do whatever they like provided the Founder doesn't intervene.
The Most Glorious Hack
26-06-2005, 13:00
Native Delegates are allowed to ban a few natives and ban as many non-natives as they want
Invading Delegates have to unban ejected natives immediatly (you can't eject without banning, when ejecting a nation, it is immediatly put on the banlist too)
Invading Delegates can ban as many non-natives as they want

For a native delegate, he doesn't have to give out the password, an invading delegate must give the password immediatly to all natives (not just the ones in the UN)This is correct.

Native delegates can do whatever they like provided the Founder doesn't intervene.Native Delegates are still limited in how many natives they may eject.
Garnilorn
27-06-2005, 00:01
It is my understanding that a region may have only one deligate in that region in the UN. Also that if a UN member with endorsements leaves his region those endorsements are lost to him.. Thus he enters the new region with no endorsements thus must have at least one to become a deligate or more than anyone else in the region. Thus how can two deligates exist in a single region. I hear about native deligates... the only deligate to a region should be native to it sort of like the USA president has to be born in country not an imigrant... or they can't recieve endorsements in a region... A native looses his place in the region once he moves from it... sort of like denoucing one country residence and taking up in another. When you become a citizen of that region you don't have ties to the one you left. As most of us came in under a region and many moved out to either join another or create our own then none but the original major region founders are natives to that region... Any member who came into it and has never moved is a native to the first region they came into once they move they are no longer natives. Those that created a new region can claim native to it. Anyone that comes in through another region and joins their region is not native to it.... Thus only the founder of new regions is a native all others are invited imigrants. If I understand what all this is about... and I may be off....
Axinon
27-06-2005, 01:24
Im not exactally posotive, but it is my understanding that any nation in a reagon before a reagon-crashing attempt is consitered "Native" for the purposes of delegate powers. Any that join just to crash a reagon are consitered non-native.
Garnilorn
27-06-2005, 02:07
This makes sense but how does one know when an assault has started or not started. Suppose a regions sends selected nations into region then one later moves in and there is a take over... How then do they decide who was with whom when war was over. Also I thought that password protection would keep out unwanted nations then only UN members can do any actions to take control... As they can endorse a deligate who has powers to change the password thus moving to block others form coming in and recovering power once a new deligate has been fully endorsed. Since it's my understanding that no region can have more than one deligate in UN.. Or can there be several from the region if each has equal endorsements... As the one with majority or most will be the only deligate and any that have less than him should be considered a member and endorse him only when they agree with and issue and come to a UN vote on it. After the vore anyone not in favor of the deligate can simply remove their endorsement but it should remain effective on the procedure before the UN... as the deligate voted as a region not individual nations there... If it's fair that a deligate votes as a single nation above his regional post then this is not to me fair as he has two votes alone plus any non deligate member that endorses him gives him a vote. While members yet to commit to a region or regions with no deligate have no vote at all and must still follow the UN rules. I feel each nation should have a vote and they are the only ones who can vote for anything. This to me sounds like the USA electorial collage... where winner takes all even if a majority of the people don't want him.. all they have to do is get about 18 of the 50 states and they win it all.

Will need to explore this more as find it interesting procedure... but feel will not be trying to take over any region as have enough troubles in the management of my own.. nation between getting those in it understanding all this....