NationStates Jolt Archive

It seems that most UN resolutions are made on assumptions on what international problems (in NationStates) are, but it is very difficult to collect data on most nations. Though my government understands that this survey may not reach many governments, it seems clear to the Council of Mayors that it is only a matter of time before the UN gets involved in prostitution again.

At my government's suggestion the following thread was started in the UN forum:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=389237

But my government honestly is also interested in just learning about the degree to which prostitution is regulated in your nations. Please feel free to explain in a few sentences or even few posts how your government regulates prostitution (and maybe why or why not).

I plan on using NationStates references and statistics generated in any future UN dicussions.

Thank you!
10kMichael
Confederated City States of Mikitivity

p.s. look for my co-authored proposed resolution "Tsunami Warning Systems" and please provide feedback! :)

We are of the feeling that whatever you do with you own body is only your concern, unless what you are doing interferes with someone elses choice. This includes prostitution. My goverment requires anyone choosing to do this to take regular tests for STD's and hand out free contraceptives and information on the risks. Prostitutes are also required to register their employment, as would any self employed person, for tax reasons.

Outlawed and those who sell their body (men or women) get a firm flogging. It seems barbaric, and it is!

My government agrees with that of Grand Teton

In the Alexian Empire(that being my country) It is highly illegal, as it is considered immoral, vulgar, and does not add anything to society, and on top of that, prostitutes spread STD's, are hard to tax, and don't get married and have children, and when they do have children, it doesn't turn out well.

It is traditionally punished by fines and jail time, but most of the time these are combined with rehabilitation programs, as most prostitutes do it too feed drug addiction, or because they are forced to by there pimp.

Pimps get much stricter punishement, with very high fines, property seisures, and time in federal prisons.

Alexias. You've got over 800 million people living in your nation. What's the problem if there are a couple of hundred hookers? There's no problem if everythings strictly under government control.

As regards Prosititution I have it as a legalised business, which is regularily inspected to look at whether it is conforming to Governmental standards or not.

All the prostitutes (male and female) must undergo STD and various other forms of testing on a 6 monthly basis in order to insure no serious problems with STD's or the ilk occur.

That’s an internal matter for a government to deal with the un has no business regulating internal matters, like that. My nation has Prostitution in the illegal category btw .

Alexias. You've got over 800 million people living in your nation. What's the problem if there are a couple of hundred hookers? There's no problem if everythings strictly under government control.


Everything is strictly under goverment control. Were controling them, and not letting them do it.

I already explained the problems.

We have unique situation.

They're shot upon sighting.

You shouldn't do that. You have to take into account that alot of prostitutes are feeding addictions, or are practically slaves to there pimp.

If you kill the prostitute and don't go after the pimps, the pimps have nothing to lose, and so can just grab another girl to replace the last one, and if they die, it doesn't matter.

Who says the pimp isn't shot as well :D

yes, but who shoot her when it's likely not her fault? Take her to prison, rehabilitate her.

Shoot the pimp, of course.

But to kill the girl would be foolish, espicially if she could still live a productive life, or perhaps even have children.

issue hasn't come up for my nation yet (just started the other day) but I think its perfectly legal as long as they are regularly tested for STD's and such like someone else has already said. It is just a business and as long as nobody is forcing them to do it (which would be illegal) then they can go about there business.

thing is, many are often forced to do it, and it is hard to track them down,espicially if prostituition is legal, as many girls won't ever give away there pimp. They'ed prefer jail than what they'ed get from him if they told.

And money that actually does go to the prostitutes will probably go to illegal drugs. If they had honest jobs, at least they'ed be contributing to society before frying themselves.

We are of the feeling that whatever you do with you own body is only your concern, unless what you are doing interferes with someone elses choice. This includes prostitution. My goverment requires anyone choosing to do this to take regular tests for STD's and hand out free contraceptives and information on the risks. Prostitutes are also required to register their employment, as would any self employed person, for tax reasons.

Same here.

Although it should be noted that, Ante-Talaxia being the hippy utopia that it is, prostitutes generally don't thrive - it's a society which has a firm tradition of "free love", after all. So they don't bill themselves as prostitutes, but rather as "full-body artists" or what have you. Of course, they are very highly regulated and, like all businesses, ultimately part of the government (such as it is).

Pimps up hos down.

In Rubainia prostituition cannot be outlawed without upsetting our national culture, which we hold dear. You see, our society is rigedly governed by a caste system, and the Prostitute's Caste is no exception.

However, laws govern them as any lower caste. Being a Pimp is highly illegal, and carries the sentence of death. Also, Prostitutes are allowed to consort with members of other castes, but purely for conjugal reasons, and none other.

There are also laws governing the lives of the Prostitutes Caste: i.e. they cannot go into religious places or wear certain fabrics and colors. Children born to prostitutes may never be acknowleged by the father, and are automatically born into the Prostitutes Caste.

Sounds fair, no?

Prostitution is regulated by the government only in a limited way.
What I mean by this is, legally only prestesses to the goddess Inanna can be prostitues, as that is one of her divine features.
Although the government does not oversee the workings of these preistesses, they are required by temple regulations to have regular STD tests, and be on contraceptives as long as they partake in these activities.
Furthermore, as one must be a prestess to Inanna to be a prostitute, it is much easier to find the ones working illegally. And thosewho work illegally face fierce punishments.
On the rare ocasion a pimp is discovered (and this is why it is rare, few people will put themselves in this rick to make any money) they are publicky tortured, and then executed, as decided by the high preists and prestesses of the temples in the city of the event.

Pimps up hos down.


Now, please, do not take this as an insult as it is not meant as such.

But, am I right in guessing that you are a white middle class american?

Now, please, do not take this as an insult as it is not meant as such.

But, am I right in guessing that you are a white middle class american?

Why do you always ask that?

Why do you always ask that?


Why do you ask?

Well, it's a service. Not much different to cleaning someone's teeth or shoes or looking daily into other people's body-openings. There are regulations regarding occupational health and safety as for any other occupation.

People can choose to work with an agent or work on their own. In the early days they chose the agent for marketing and advertising. Nowadays, they kicked the agent and do advertising on the Net. The Net is kicking out the middlemen everywhere.

Forced prostitution falls under the slavery law and nobody wants to get caught with that. Same goes for child labor.

Well, it's a service. Not much different to cleaning someone's teeth or shoes or looking daily into other people's body-openings. There are regulations regarding occupational health and safety as for any other occupation.

People can choose to work with an agent or work on their own. In the early days they chose the agent for marketing and advertising. Nowadays, they kicked the agent and do advertising on the Net. The Net is kicking out the middlemen everywhere.

Forced prostitution falls under the slavery law and nobody wants to get caught with that. Same goes for child labor.


having legalized prostituition just makes everything easier for pimps.

Watch.

No, she just works for my company.

Easier to get away.

Now, please, do not take this as an insult as it is not meant as such.

But, am I right in guessing that you are a white middle class american?

Don't that this as an insult...

But, I am guessing you're British or a Foreigner to the U.S.?

No offense taken.

Not British, no, not american either, your right.

I am also assuming you are a middle class white american, am I right? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

having legalized prostituition just makes everything easier for pimps.

Watch.

No, she just works for my company.

Easier to get away.


Unless of course the prostitution is controled by the government, or a specific entity. Then private pimps can't exist, and the ones who work for the entity, are strictly regulated.

True, true.

Of course, it is still possible for them to exist, just not legally.

True, true.

Of course, it is still possible for them to exist, just not legally.


Then do what I do, publicly torture and execute convicted pimps.
I gaurentee they will drop in number when you start doing that.

Won't rid them completely, but it will rid alot of them.
Besides, it's entertaining.

On the contrary.

Illegal trade thrives on restriction. Without police or enforcers, they would have no jobs. And, the more you take out, the less competition, the higher the price, the higher the profits, the more people want to do it.

A vicious never ending cycle.

I suggest appealing to patriotism to make people do things.


Or, maybe I'm just a bit overly cynical.

Being a Courtesan is a recognized profession in Tanara. There are board certifications that can be earned, which can result in much higher incomes for those courtesans that chose to earn them. Not all courtessans provide sexual services - some do and some don't - All courtesans are taxed, ( like any self employeed individual ) and there are health and safety standards that must be met.

Pimps, oh don't even go there....thats starts into the slavery issue that Wong Cock mentioned.

This is a polite bump to just say thank you to all the respondants thus far. I'm actually not surprised by the diversity of responses, and plan to summarize this results and try to characterize a few of the examples provided, so keep 'em coming. :)

Zamundaland allows and regulates prostitution. Zamundaland does not take a moral position on sexual activity of any kind, provided consenting adults are involved. Most Zamundalandians do not practice a prohibitive religion, which probably accounts for the liberal attitude on sexual issues - or any other "moral" issue for that matter.

Prostitutes must register, must work at a licensed brothel, must use condoms and must obtain bi-monthly medical check-ups. Any prostitute testing positive for an STD is prohibited from working in a sexual capacity at said brothel (but may perform some other function not related to a sex act) until such time as a release has been obtained from a licensed, certified health practitioner stating said person is free of said STD. Fines can be imposed for failure to use a condom, but this is decided on a case-by-case basis.

Street-side selling of sexual acts is prohibited. Jail time and fines are a result of being arrested and convicted of said practice.

As prostitutes must work at a brothel, we find the issue of pimps to be non-existent. Protection is already provided by the brothel. Now... if a prostitute chooses to give their money to another person, that is entirely their affair. As prostitution has no social stigma in our culture, it is virtually impossible to "force" someone to be a prostitute. It is also virtually impossible to "force" someone to hand over their earnings on a regular basis.

With no drug laws in our country (other than those that ban certain activities while under the influence of *any* kind of drug, i.e., driving, etc.) there is no need to be a prostitute to finance a drug habit. With governmental regulation, a sub-culture does not form and most of the illegal activity that is normally associated with prostitution simply does not exist.

Outlawed, religous reasons. Anyone caught is sent to a reeducation camp..

And belive me, they are cought..

Serconea is a Catholic country and as such, prostitution is strictly illegal. Our police tend to focus more on solicitation.

We tend to view the prostitutes as victims though, criminalising the purchaser and pimp more than the seller.

You will get arrested for solicitation but not if you're found in someone's house during a raid or you confess afterwards.

Zamundaland allows and regulates prostitution. Zamundaland does not take a moral position on sexual activity of any kind, provided consenting adults are involved. Most Zamundalandians do not practice a prohibitive religion, which probably accounts for the liberal attitude on sexual issues - or any other "moral" issue for that matter.

Prostitutes must register, must work at a licensed brothel, must use condoms and must obtain bi-monthly medical check-ups. Any prostitute testing positive for an STD is prohibited from working in a sexual capacity at said brothel (but may perform some other function not related to a sex act) until such time as a release has been obtained from a licensed, certified health practitioner stating said person is free of said STD. Fines can be imposed for failure to use a condom, but this is decided on a case-by-case basis.

Street-side selling of sexual acts is prohibited. Jail time and fines are a result of being arrested and convicted of said practice.

As prostitutes must work at a brothel, we find the issue of pimps to be non-existent. Protection is already provided by the brothel. Now... if a prostitute chooses to give their money to another person, that is entirely their affair. As prostitution has no social stigma in our culture, it is virtually impossible to "force" someone to be a prostitute. It is also virtually impossible to "force" someone to hand over their earnings on a regular basis.

With no drug laws in our country (other than those that ban certain activities while under the influence of *any* kind of drug, i.e., driving, etc.) there is no need to be a prostitute to finance a drug habit. With governmental regulation, a sub-culture does not form and most of the illegal activity that is normally associated with prostitution simply does not exist.


But then I could simply by copious amounts of addictive drug cheaply, and then have a Laotian brothel style pimping bussiness and a garguantuan scale!

Of course, the benefits would be tax evaision, and would have to have cheaper prices.


I must correct what I said earlier.

I am much to cynical.


Or am I? Legalized prostituition, prostituition at all is still a terrible thing, and will almost always come up with problems, so perhaps I am just being wise.....




What about people who like to hire prostituites who consent to being cut, beat, and other such extremly immoral things?

What about minimum age?

What if, like the situation above, I do the same thing, but with children as is done there?

In my opnion, no matter how you do it, legalized prostituition will present problems.



Of course, illegal does do the same thing.

It is compulsory.

If someone wants to have sex with you and pays for it you are compelled to do it.

(I voted high regulation anyway, cause my nation does not believe in pleasure... even if you have to pay for it)

It is compulsory.

If someone wants to have sex with you and pays for it you are compelled to do it.

(I voted high regulation anyway, cause my nation does not believe in pleasure... even if you have to pay for it)


Hahaha! Funny.

It is illegal. When our resources come of age, the government provides a mate for them, decided by their genetic makeup, corporate or governmental position, and other such traits, in order to bear the children they are instructed to. Two workers are matched to make another two workers, one male, one female, who will go out and mate with others in order to succesfully breed workers. Genetic modification is widely practiced, keeping the social classes where they belong. There is a place for everyone and they all occupy the one that the council selects for them. Spouses are matched psychologically as well, and must take the regulated medications. Intermarital conflicts would be unproductive and not beneficial to the populace. For someone to abuse their spouse is totally unknown and completely unthinkable- impossible. We have taken all the necessary precautions in that area. Earlier on, when our resources reach a certain age, they are prescribed different medications in order to help contain their natural hormonal urges. When the time is right to mate, they will be temporarily taken off of their suppressive medication and allowed to reproduce as is their task. When their children are born, they will go through the same process. So you can see how prostitution would obviously upset the balance. It would tear apart the foundation upon which our laws were built.

Interesting, though at less than 100 respondants it is hard to say ... but it looks as if there are more nations that lean towards higher regulations than not. :)

I'd ask those of you following this thread to invite your region neighbors to respond, as I do plan on eventually going through the results and making a short summary of positions and results.

The UN will likely base its future debates and policies on what you've said here. Or at least I'd like to continue to put NationStates based info into more UN Decision making.

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In StrendReich, prostitution is highly regulated and monitored. The objective of the government is to allow both sides to "work through" their lusts to find partners they can and will marry; it's handled much like a dating service.

Prostitutes must be unmarried, as must be Johns. All prostitution occurs on government sanctioned property. Inspections of conditions and health status of prostitutes are conducted every 6 months. Prostitutes have the right to turn down any John, no reason needs be given. Bonuses are granted to "brothels" when a marriage of prostitute and John reaches its 5 year mark. Both prostitute and John must register their activities; those who continually engage in frequent prostitution may recieve treatment as if they are a sex addict. Married individuals who participate in prostitution and are caught face fines (and possible jail time for repeat offences) and sent to marriage councelling. Divorce may be granted for commiting marital prostitution, though the government strives to salvage the marriage and correct the problems that led to the "astray behavior".

Prostitutes can only remain in prostitution for 7 years. After that time, the prostitute is forced to retire and encouraged to marry and settle down. Reeducation and financial aid is available for those needing assistance with a "new life".

Illegal prostitution (outside of the government eye) is punishable by fine and imprisonment. Repeat offenses may result in stronger measures, including reeducation, treatment for sex addiction and so forth.

Forced prostitution results in a death sentance for the pimp. Government aid is available to help rehabilitate those forced into prostitution.

The Government of Portus Tenebrosus (me :D ) holds the monopol of prostitution.
We leave our whores a fair amount of money for their living and keeps the rest. (It is necessary for our budget.)
Nobody is forced to do it although we encourage it.
If someone is caught offering sexual acts illegally all their profits get confiscated... however this applies to every other business, too.

It's really not pretty to think about it, but that is the only way some people can suvive. To me, it seems as if the government should give them STD tests and such, and if they have one, than get them off the streets.

In Ophinia, men are used to pleasure females at the discretion of their owners.

There are no regulations on prostitution in Eris23. Even if there were it is unlikely they would be effectively enforced as the nation has no police force nor any prison system.

It is Somewhat Monitored By Government. (Moderate Regulation)

yes, but who shoot her when it's likely not her fault? Take her to prison, rehabilitate her.

Shoot the pimp, of course.

But to kill the girl would be foolish, espicially if she could still live a productive life, or perhaps even have children.

In The region of Childfree, the nation of Frejir would rather a used up, ex druggie prostitute not bear children. We do believe in regulated prostitution for the comforts of the people, so instead of killing them, we would prefer sterilization. :D All men and women who choose the prostitution career track, must be sterilized before certification. All prostitution performed with productive glands intact, is illegal and can result in deportation.

It is also mandatory for all women who want to reproduce, to go through a battery of psychological tests to see if they qualify. Science in Frejir has made it possible to supress the reproductive abilities of their citizens safely before the onset of puberty without affecting normal growth. So long as a woman is aproved before the age of 46, a government issued pill will permit fertility. There are cases where fertility supression does not take. For this reason, free sterilization is offered to ALL citizens who so choose it. You must jump a few hoops to be a parent, but choosing not to breed is encouraged.

The Eternal Kawaii forbids public displays of sexuality as un-cute and disrupting of the public harmony. Anyone foolish enough to be caught seeking or offering sexual favors will soon face the righteous mallets of Our Happiness Police.

Prostitution is illegal in Riconiaa because it is wrong.

Our government regulates prostitution as it does any other type of blue collar business. There are certain licenses, regulations and a checks and balance system to keep the entire circle of prostitution in line.

who cares as long as it isnt a pronlem to anyone lol

As with most business, the sex trade is closely regulated by our Ministry of Fair and Balanced Trade. Sex workers (commonly called "prostitues") conduct their business in government-run bordellos. They have contracts with the government which subject them to the following conditions: they must submit to comprehensive monthly screenings for sexually transmitted diseases and infections and all acts are carried out with barrier protection. Their rates are fixed at a fair level and all of their income is taxed.

Sex workers who fail to meet these requirements or do not sign the government contract are considered to be conducting business in a criminal fashion and are prosecuted as follows:

1) For the first offense, workers are given a warning and are given the opportunity to bring themselves in line with governmental regulations within one month

2) For the second offense, workers are fined an amount proportional to their current income, which amounts to about 8% for six months. They are given the opportunity to bring themselves in line with governmental regulations within one month

3) For the third offense, workers are fined about 15% for one year and barred from further business within the country's borders. This is enforced through government monitoring.

the government of Gelfland has little regulation of "prostitution" owing to the fact that a great variety of recreational activites exist, many of which can be "stimulating" to particpants and/or observers. for the few things solely involving reproduction-like acts, the government operates facilites and maintains strict standards with regards to staff, and training that make it difficult for the private sector to compete, Ditto for drug use.