NationStates Jolt Archive


Do Not Telegram List

Uber Penguins
14-12-2004, 20:43
I hereby propose making a do not telegram list (DNTL), for those of us that do not wish to be continually bombarded by "junk" telegrams telling us to join their region or simple junk. States could sign up for it, and the only way for nations to send you telegrams would be for them to be on your dossir, or in your region. Any opinons?
Tuesday Heights
14-12-2004, 20:49
It's part of the game, and as long as the telegrams follow the rules laid out by the moderators, any inbox is fair game.
Dregruk
14-12-2004, 20:50
There is the obvious flaw here that the people who send these telegrams generally don't read the forums, and if they did, some would choose to ignore one such list. But this is merely speculation.
Uber Penguins
14-12-2004, 22:38
I am saying that there would be no way to send a telegram to someone that wasn't on your dossier.
Nanakaland
14-12-2004, 22:42
There would be some problems. I don't use the dossier and even if I did, I know way too many people to remember to put in there.
Tuesday Heights
14-12-2004, 22:49
Perhaps, if nations don't want to receive these telegrams, at some point the ignore feature with the inbox could be expanded to enter names in it themselves rather than only putting in names of those who first send you a telegram.
Euroslavia
15-12-2004, 07:16
There would be a problem with such an option, just because of the fact that if one of the nations on that list was to be warned by a moderator, a telegram would be sent to said nation, but they wouldn't receive it because your proposal.

It only takes a few seconds to delete a telegram...
Evil Woody Thoughts
15-12-2004, 07:45
I would support such a measure.

I don't get spam asking me to join xxxxx region anymore, but as a UN delegate, I get lots of resolution/proposal approval related spam. Yeah, I know it's part of being a delegate, but it's annoying, especially when I go through the proposals every day and approve the ones I like (usually only one, maybe two, per day because the proposals are so crappily written). Some two-sentence telegram isn't gonna change my position. I campaigned for the delegate position to get cool regional control thingies, and for the increased votes, not to have my telegrams spammed by nations I've never heard of.

As Tuesday Heights said, it's part of the game, so I won't complain too loudly, but if I could restrict telegrams to nations in my region (with a few exceptions for nations I come across in II as needed), I'd take it in a heartbeat.

Maybe I should change my national slogan to tell UN spammers to bug off, but I like the slogan I have. It has some regional RP history behind it. :)
Uber Penguins
15-12-2004, 21:36
Some of your reason's make no sense. If a moderator sends you something, it would automaticlly get thourgh. I am just looking for ideas here, BTW. I really hate spam, and as it was said, when you start getting telegrams teling you to change your view, it gets annoying.
Tuesday Heights
15-12-2004, 22:26
I really hate spam, and as it was said, when you start getting telegrams teling you to change your view, it gets annoying.

It's part of the game.
Evil Woody Thoughts
15-12-2004, 22:35
I would support such a measure.

Maybe I should change my national slogan to tell UN spammers to bug off, but I like the slogan I have. It has some regional RP history behind it. :)

After receiving yet another UN spam telegram from a self-proclaimed fascist nation, I decided I finally had enough. I changed my national slogan to "Deleting UN proposal/resolution tg spam since 1763." Hopefully UN proposal spammers will get the hint, even if Tuesday Heights says they aren't really spammers. ;)

That seems to be all I can do until a "block all nations outside of region" option is added to the game, which might be never.
Unfree People
16-12-2004, 01:18
It's part of the game, and as long as the telegrams follow the rules laid out by the moderators, any inbox is fair game.
Recruitment telegrams sent to nations residing in player-created regions are not, however, allowed.

If you live in any such region, report ad telespams via the Getting Help Page.
Tuesday Heights
16-12-2004, 01:40
Recruitment telegrams sent to nations residing in player-created regions are not, however, allowed.

I know, that's why I said that sending legal recruitment telegrams was allowed. ;)
Uber Penguins
16-12-2004, 02:16
I still think there should be a better way than reporting every message. A block outside the region telegrams would do the trick.
Dregruk
16-12-2004, 09:17
I still think there should be a better way than reporting every message. A block outside the region telegrams would do the trick.

What about when someone you're friends with creates a nation and tries to send you a telegram? It's happened to me dozens of times. If we used your idea, I wouldn't be able to get their telegrams because I didn't have them on my dossier (And I didn't have them on my dossier because I didn't get the telegram).
Vrak
16-12-2004, 09:29
OOC:

Just use the ignore feature. Simple. Not much else you can really do, actually. By making this thread you will be attracting unwanted attention.
Hagge
16-12-2004, 17:58
I hereby propose making a do not telegram list (DNTL), for those of us that do not wish to be continually bombarded by "junk" telegrams telling us to join their region or simple junk. States could sign up for it, and the only way for nations to send you telegrams would be for them to be on your dossir, or in your region. Any opinons?
Why not use the "ignore" button?
Yeast Infected Nurses
16-12-2004, 18:31
Also, you would be passing a resolution that would require the creator of the game to change the programing. You'd probably need to get his permission before passing such a resolution.
Uber Penguins
16-12-2004, 20:39
First off, this is a IDEAS thread. If you want to put someone in your dossir, justt search for their nation then click to add it. Second off, theere are so many nations sending out these telegrams, ignoring them does nothing.
Uber Penguins
18-12-2004, 00:01
ANy more ideas or anything?
Tuesday Heights
18-12-2004, 00:53
ANy more ideas or anything?

Yes, if you don't want to receive telegram, you're going to have to ignore them as they come in... that's the way it works around here; if you think they violate the rules, report them.

Since there's not much we can do to actually enforce a "do not telegram list" within NationStates, as it's currently an unavailable function... perhaps, we should focus on educating nations that do send recruiting telegrams on the proper rules and etiquette for doing so.

I think that's the best suggestion and solution for this "problem" that really can't be solved with a simple script or coding change.

Just my .02.
TilEnca
18-12-2004, 00:59
The only other thing I can think of might work, but it might be far too much work to do.

Use a junk-telegram setting.

At work we get spam. Quite a lot of it. So everyone has a junk-filter installed. They mark something as junk the first time, and it gets filtered in to another folder where they don't have to read it. Then once a week (or whenever) they can skim through it, pull out anything they need and delete the rest.

So if there were a two-tier telegram system that might work - all the ones you mark as ignore get put in to a folder you can review later.

But, as I said, it's possibly way too much work to code up.
Tuesday Heights
18-12-2004, 01:00
But, as I said, it's possibly way too much work to code up.

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking... I mean, it might be an idea to toss around for NS II.
Grenval
18-12-2004, 02:25
I do not have time to read the thread, but in case it has not been mentioned, the idea is totally impractical. Half the nations in the sink regions would be on the list, probably a good ten thousand nations. There is no way I am going to check the list before I send out a recruitment message.
Tuesday Heights
18-12-2004, 02:29
lol, Grenval... the suggestions were aimed at making it possible to add more people to your in-game ignore list... not an actual, physical list.
Grenval
18-12-2004, 02:46
lol, Grenval... the suggestions were aimed at making it possible to add more people to your in-game ignore list... not an actual, physical list.

Oh okay. Whew! But why, what is the limit now on the in-game ignore list? I do not have anyone on my list because I am not in a sink.
Tuesday Heights
18-12-2004, 03:19
Oh okay. Whew! But why, what is the limit now on the in-game ignore list? I do not have anyone on my list because I am not in a sink.

I don't know what the limit it, but some suggestions included in this thread being allowed to enter the name of nations known to recruit instead of waiting for a nation to send a telegram in order to ignore them.
Grenval
18-12-2004, 03:48
I don't know what the limit it, but some suggestions included in this thread being allowed to enter the name of nations known to recruit instead of waiting for a nation to send a telegram in order to ignore them.

It takes all of two seconds to add a nation to the ignore list. It would probably take two hours to program the feature you want. My advice: deal with it.
Tuesday Heights
18-12-2004, 03:52
It takes all of two seconds to add a nation to the ignore list. It would probably take two hours to program the feature you want. My advice: deal with it.

Reread my post; we're talking about adding a feature to it.
Grenval
18-12-2004, 03:56
Reread my post; we're talking about adding a feature to it.

Right. To program this new feature, which would enable a "pre-ignore" function, would probably take two hours. Or the alternative, to simply continue ignoring known recruiters, takes about two seconds. When you weigh the scale, two hours verus two seconds, the answer is obvious.

Or better yet, move to a player-created region like mine! ;)
Uber Penguins
19-12-2004, 04:50
I just got ANOTHER spam message from somebody about my support proposal, the one everybody is voting on now. Sure it took 2 seconds to put them on my ignore, but if it took 2 hours to put in this feature, hundreds of these could be gotten rid of before I even learned of this nation's exsitance.
Grenval
19-12-2004, 05:25
I just got ANOTHER spam message from somebody about my support proposal, the one everybody is voting on now. Sure it took 2 seconds to put them on my ignore, but if it took 2 hours to put in this feature, hundreds of these could be gotten rid of before I even learned of this nation's exsitance.

They were supporting your proposal? That does not sound like spam to me.
Uber Penguins
19-12-2004, 18:12
No, they were whining at me to change my postion on a proposal.
Grenval
19-12-2004, 18:14
No, they were whining at me to change my postion on a proposal.

Tough.
Tuesday Heights
19-12-2004, 23:12
No, they were whining at me to change my postion on a proposal.

It's allowed. That's the price you pay for voting.