New Kiev
10-12-2004, 07:15
Hey Everybody,
***Spoilers for Ace Combat 5***
I just got Ace Combat 5: The Unsung War almost a week ago. In the game the bad guys deploy two submarines called the Scinfaxi and the Hrimfaxi. Now these subs are amazing, they are "...submersible attack carriers."
Now I immediately remembered the Japanese attempt to deploy this type of sub (http://www.pacerfarm.org/i-400/) to destroy the Panama Canal. These boats failed utterly and were long ago forgotten. I had never considered the idea until I played AC 5. And I started kicking the idea around.
Obviously, these subs would solve a standing problem with naval operational doctrine...
+the vulnerability of carriers to cruise missiles (These things if used right can a kill a multi-billion dollar CV in no time at all.)
+and given enough time, get off a hostile shore and have attack aircraft come out of nowhere. (Shades of Pearl Harbor.)
But immediately I began to think of the many and painful obstacles to this idea.
+Size (The word big isn't big enough.)
+Stealth (There is no way something larger than a Typhoon-class is going to be quiet.)
+Speed (This thing has got to be slow, unless using magnetohydrodynamic engines, ties in with above problem)
+Aircraft Capacity (To carry any aircraft at all is a problem, meaning the only planes that would be feasible would be VTOL or UCAVs)
+Cost, this thing would brake the banks of all but the largest nations.
Now, given the liberties we can take with reality in NationStates I figured I could enlist the shipbuilding knowledge of other nations.
What do you think?
***Spoilers for Ace Combat 5***
I just got Ace Combat 5: The Unsung War almost a week ago. In the game the bad guys deploy two submarines called the Scinfaxi and the Hrimfaxi. Now these subs are amazing, they are "...submersible attack carriers."
Now I immediately remembered the Japanese attempt to deploy this type of sub (http://www.pacerfarm.org/i-400/) to destroy the Panama Canal. These boats failed utterly and were long ago forgotten. I had never considered the idea until I played AC 5. And I started kicking the idea around.
Obviously, these subs would solve a standing problem with naval operational doctrine...
+the vulnerability of carriers to cruise missiles (These things if used right can a kill a multi-billion dollar CV in no time at all.)
+and given enough time, get off a hostile shore and have attack aircraft come out of nowhere. (Shades of Pearl Harbor.)
But immediately I began to think of the many and painful obstacles to this idea.
+Size (The word big isn't big enough.)
+Stealth (There is no way something larger than a Typhoon-class is going to be quiet.)
+Speed (This thing has got to be slow, unless using magnetohydrodynamic engines, ties in with above problem)
+Aircraft Capacity (To carry any aircraft at all is a problem, meaning the only planes that would be feasible would be VTOL or UCAVs)
+Cost, this thing would brake the banks of all but the largest nations.
Now, given the liberties we can take with reality in NationStates I figured I could enlist the shipbuilding knowledge of other nations.
What do you think?