NationStates Jolt Archive


How To Start War?

Pertater Salad
16-10-2004, 22:43
I am quite new at this game and I was wondering... How in the world do you start a war? What/How do you get weapons? What is all this money thing about?
Neo England
17-10-2004, 01:17
Everything war wise is RolePlayed.
Clonetopia
17-10-2004, 01:33
Try committing genocide. That normally does the trick.
Tiborita
17-10-2004, 01:39
I'm to lazy to write a new post, but this oughta clear stuff up.
Questions questions questions....

Im a newb here and i dont want to do anything wrong but i see no help about these subjects im having problems with.

Do i have to buy weapons, ammo, ships, Aircraft, Subs etc. And catalog them so then i know what i have and what i lose during warfare ?

If so how do i calculate how much i can spend, ive read somewhere that its 4% of my budget for defence. cant i select as much as i want of my defence budget on what i want ? what other areas is defence spent on ?

Can i just make things up as long i take into consideration prices of equipment and my defence spending, so that when i wage war im not seen as god-modding ?

thanks for your help...
As Katganistan said, definately read the stickies. These ones specifically address what you are asking:
Economy, Militaries, and Invasions - More things to know:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=297064
What logistics is:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=275828

Calculators:
[Quote=Veridan in Gameplay]
GNP (http://members.fortunecity.com/thracetailteann/html/gnp.html)
GDP (http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php)
GDP (http://twr.1colony.com/ver8/calc8.0.html)
NS Economy (http://www.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?nation=) (add your nations name to the end of the url)

It is a good idea to catalog what you have and how many people are in your military. It can be as simple as having it in a text document.

You can buy things from peoples storefronts if you like. If your economy is strong, you can assume you can build stuff yourself. If you want to design stuff yourself, you may want to check out these threads:

Some info on naval vessels
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=292413

Some things you should know about tanks
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=288671

Things you should know about aircraft
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=322078

If so how do i calculate how much i can spend, ive read somewhere that its 4% of my budget for defence. cant i select as much as i want of my defence budget on what i want ? what other areas is defence spent on ?

It's up to you to figure out how your national budget is divided. You can get your budget from the calculators above. Check out real life national budgets to get a feeling of how it should be done. For example, the US spends ~16% on defense, which is quite a bit. Typically, about 1/3 of a defense budget is spent on the procurement of new equipment.

Also, try to keep the amount of people in your military below 2%.

If you are still confused, feel free to telegram me.
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=362831
FredTheBlack
17-10-2004, 06:19
SO your telling me
You guys are making up everything, like what kind of weapons you have?

So I cant make up anything I want like I am all powerfull I have 1,0000000,0000000,000000,000000,00000 troops and I have the power to take over all nations? lol

I find it pretty funny

He needs to make this a real game with REAL Stuff, something like Neopet
Tiborita
17-10-2004, 06:39
errr... No, FredTheBlack. If you had bothered to read throught the stickies, you would have found that is not the way things work. People, on this site, have developed certain rules for freeform role play to work.
Liverpool England
17-10-2004, 09:58
Yes, FredTheBlack, it is all made up, and if you're unhappy about it, you can quit the game and go back to your Neopets.
Pertater Salad
17-10-2004, 13:59
I know its all roleplaying. So you just make stuff up? I roleplay reguarly but not on this topic. I roleplay on AIM, CyberChat, Neopets, RPGHost and that stuff,... wow this is cooler thn I thought.
Kanabia
17-10-2004, 17:57
Yeah, its all made up, but you have to at least try to be realistic. For example, an "imploded" economy with a small population cannot hope to field a large amount of tanks or bombers.

A knowledge of military hardware helps, also...
Angolistica
17-10-2004, 18:01
Go here
http://www.sunsetrpg.com/economystatistics.php
And at the top enter your nation name, it'll tell you exactly how much you spend on EVERYTHING, liek say you take defence stances on a lot of stuff, ur defense goes up, it's quite accurate
Kanabia
17-10-2004, 18:04
That calculator is crap.

According to it, i have a GDP of $9808 per capita, despite a frightening economy, and 79.76% of my economy is the black market, despite crime being "totally unknown".

This one is better: http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/

But really, it's all how you interpret your nation.
BONGONA
17-10-2004, 18:09
Frankly, im new id like to know how to start war and buy weapons and increase my army
Kanabia
17-10-2004, 18:11
Frankly, im new id like to know how to start war and buy weapons and increase my army

Read above.
Nation of Fortune
18-10-2004, 01:43
Frankly, im new id like to know how to start war and buy weapons and increase my army
try http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=361158&page=1&pp=15
FredTheBlack
18-10-2004, 05:54
LOL! You guys even Roleplay on AIM!! ?? LOL!!! Haha That cracks me up I mean that's kinda werid anyway that's cool you guys roleplay on this game and like the maker of nationstates said he should make it so you dont have to (Roleplay) lol



-FredtheBlack-

Join my nation to be holy and Be POWERFULL!!! MUAahahahah!!


I have 1,0000,0000,0000,000 troops! and alot of money!
Vrak
18-10-2004, 06:20
Then, why are you here, Fred? Just to troll?
Evil Woody Thoughts
18-10-2004, 10:17
Some info on naval vessels
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=292413

OK, so in my complete ignorance of physics, I have designed and deployed a n00bish battleship (26 inch guns), so what do I do about it?

Having to decommision it would really suck.
Tiborita
18-10-2004, 19:49
OK, so in my complete ignorance of physics, I have designed and deployed a n00bish battleship (26 inch guns), so what do I do about it?

Having to decommision it would really suck.
You might want to start an OOC thread on II requesting peoples thoughts on your design. Those threads offen attract some sharp military designers who'll help you out.