NationStates Jolt Archive

I'm pleased to announce the official opening of NSwiki! This is a wiki (a collection of interlinked web pages, any of which can be visited and edited by anyone at any time from any place) designed to give information about NationStates in an easy-reference manner. Essentially, it's an open-source, open-content encyclopedia about NationStates.

If you've seen Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org), this is the same kind of thing, only about NationStates.

NSwiki can be found at http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki.

EDIT: If you have a question about the wiki that needs to be answered by me, the best place to put it is here (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Goobergunch&action=edit&section=new). I check that page far more frequently then I do this thread.

Wow, Goober! The NSwiki is AMAZING!

That's...very, very cool.

Agreed.

This is great. Perhaps a link could be stickied?

I just added a shitload of information today.

It would also be a good idea to transfer the articles from the nationstates encyclopedia (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=346486) there.

Yes, a link to NSwiki should be stickied. And I'd say that even if I wasn't a sysop. :D

I'm going to add some of the encyclopedia entries into NSWiki. Starting with the letter A. :) People who want to help are welcome.

I'm going to add some of the encyclopedia entries into NSWiki. Starting with the letter A. :) People who want to help are welcome.

Just remember to follow NPOV(Neutral Point of View) guidelines.

I am the personification of neutrality itself ;)

Ooh, 2nd sticky of the day.

Ooh, 2nd sticky of the day.

ooo, thanks! *huggles Myrth*

What is this ? The U.N. is only a stub ?

" Well, tsk, tsk, tsk ... " ;)

* I might carefully add a few details later.

Most excellent, most excellent. I'll have to do a bit of adding of my own, might even get around to updating my characters and nation and editing in the info.

Great work! I'll be throwing some stuff in there :)

Omg! The NS Wiki! Hurray!

NSwiki was formally opened on 1 October 2004.

NSwiki hit its 500th article on 7 October 2004.

Anyone who hasn't visited the NSwiki yet is missing a treat. Take a look at the Gameplay (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Gameplay) page, and follow some links. This stuff is great!

Just added a ton of stuff to my country's entry. :)

How do I start / create an entry for my region?

I'd also like to create an index and add more text for my nation? In time, I'll enter info for the nations in my region as well.

How do I start / create an entry for my region?.
Edit: when I posted this, I misread 'region' as 'nation'. Visit the InfoBox Page (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/NSwiki:Info_boxes) for region creation templates just like these nation templates.

Great question, even though I know you already built one.

Paste the following into your address bar
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Your_nation_name
Change Your_nation_name to your nation name (not the Federal Republic of Your Nation Name), and hit [Enter] (it's on your keyboard, ya dope)

Then paste the following into the Edit box that appears
{{Infobox_Nation |
flag=Flag URL |
region=[[Region]] |
motto=Motto |
map=[Map URL], or No Map Available Yet |
language=Language(s) |
capital=Capital |
population=Population |
currency=Currency |
leader=National Leader
}}]
After each Equals sign (=), chance each item to what is listed on your nation page or what you've thought up. The -, [, | and ] symbols need to remain where they are. You can't change leader to national anthem, either - just use what you can, and make the rest blank

After the final }}, start a new line and write whatever you want about your nation. There is a link to the help page from there - use it. Final Version might look like this:
{{Infobox_Nation |
flag=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/frisbeeteria/fris/saucers.gif |
region=[[Jokeaday]] |
motto=Death to all fanatics! |
map= |
language=English |
capital=Greenspan |
population=1.6 billion (Oct 04) |
currency=FrisB |
leader=G. Winston Riegle, Director
}}
== Organisation ==
The Conglomerated Oligarchy of Frisbeeterian Corporate States are a
tight confederation of thirty-two individual corporate entities.
The COF is managed by a tightly knit Directorate of the entities
that make up the Oligarchy.
== History of Frisbeeteria ==
and so on, and so on ...

I love the Mediawiki engine, and this is very, very cool. Thanks for setting it up.

I'll definitely be contributing my time to this. :) Good job!

Indeed, i've just added my blog url, this is such a cool idea!

WOOT!NSWiki is cool. I might write something there someday.

WOOT!NSWiki is cool. I might write something there someday.
Why wait? You can always start it today and add more next week, or next month, etc.

Creating a nationpage is easy. Go to the Nation Creation Page (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Template:Infobox_Region) and follow the instructions.

Really nice site.

I don't understand how you do the characters.

I don't understand how you do the characters.
You mean adding the infobox?

Meh... I must start pumping out more articles especially related to the IADF, ESUS, my nation, and the GDA...

dull

dull
Then post more things to make it better.

It's excellent - just a fantastic idea. Good one goober. :)

The Population thing in the nation page infobox should automatically update, otherwise it will be incorrect unless corrected daily.

[16:49:31] <+MaxBarry> It's excellent -- it's another of those incredible projects that seem to just spring out of nowhere.

[16:50:20] <+MaxBarry> Goober's done an excellent job. :)


*swoons*

[16:49:31] <+MaxBarry> It's excellent -- it's another of those incredible projects that seem to just spring out of nowhere.

[16:50:20] <+MaxBarry> Goober's done an excellent job. :)


*swoons*

Any statement on my request - that the nation infobox automatically shows an up-to-date population, rather than the player having to update it? It seems a bit silly to have to update it manually, since it changes frequently in the game.

Good idea. In fact, we (the sysops) discussed it but were not sure how to do it codingwise.

just have a filter on each nation's page that reads the population and puts it in the infobox.

We had figured *that* out. How to code it is another matter though.

Well, the C variant would be something similar to:


If word=alpha:
count++;

If word=num:
printf ("Population=&c million"; word);


I'll check with my programming teacher tomorrow about that and ask her if she could help with this. She's C, C++, HTML, and Java certified.

Ok, I asked about the HTML filter and she said she'd get it for me later. I'm also going to ask the webmaster of a site I'm part of later about it.

But I also came to this. Why don't you just ask the thirdgeek people how they did their coding?

That's not the problem. I could fairly easily write a PHP script to pull the requisite data off. The problem is that I don't know how to integrate it with the wikicode.

have a simple program pull it off and post it in a link that names itself after the population.

Unfortunately I don't know much about coding for the web, but maybe the XML automated region data feed (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/regiondata.cgi) and XML automated nation data feed (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/nationdata.cgi) might come in handy.

you know, maybe we could also give some code for a simple counter if the owner wanted a counter on their country's page.

Unfortunately I don't know much about coding for the web, but maybe the XML automated region data feed (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/regiondata.cgi) and XML automated nation data feed (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/nationdata.cgi) might come in handy.
We know about these. It's just that the wiki code doesn't have a built in way to convert XML to wiki. Goober is working on PHP code to do it, but several searches on Mediawiki and XML have indicated that other wikis have the same difficulty. Haven't found a solution yet.

Crazed Marines, every page has a "This page has been accessed xx times." counter. Something else you looking for?

Crazed Marines, every page has a "This page has been accessed xx times." counter. Something else you looking for?
Where is it? I didn't see it.

NSWiki is now experiencing downtime, according to Fris it should be back up soon.

Where is it? I didn't see it.
Its on the bottom of the page you're accessing...

I've added my own information to my wiki.

Its on the bottom of the page you're accessing...
Found it. Thanks! Now I know how many times I've visited my page. 10/21 times.

Oh, I am sure someone else visited it. But there is this issue: make more pages then just your own nation page!

There are a lot of background things that you can make into pages. Characters, wars, political parties etc. Those make a nations entry much more fun to read. In addition, there are "metapages" with concepts important for everyone in NS. (like political theories - Marxism in Nationstates, or the entry on wank or godmoding.) Those things should be a part of the Wiki as well.

BTW, Knootoss, I've been having trouble making a page for one of my ships, because of the Wikicode... Is there anyway you could help?

Sure. You on IRC? Alternatively you could link me of course.

Nevermind, I think I fixed it...

Anyways, if you don't mind, the link is here (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Excalibur_Strike_Frigate).

"Sticki wiki, eh chaps?"

:P

Looks nice, but could use some short descriptive text in addition to the mere statistics. Or perhaps incorporating said statistics.

I added Friday a section on anti-tank rifles. The page was missing without it....lol....

And before you ask, they DO exist. It started in 1917-1918 when the British showed the Tank on the battlefield. Mauser came out with the Tankgavair (tank rifle) model 1918. It was hated because of its size, weight, and ammo usage especially since it could only penetrate 3 inches of armor at 100 yards.

well done...now...could someone possibly give a user's guide lol

Yes. A wiki user guide would be good. Also this is probably a stupid question but is there anyway of adding a short nation profile to the Wiki.
*awaiting the mocking laughs of wiki administrators, at Sinns complete stupidity on the subject*

Yes. A wiki user guide would be good. Also this is probably a stupid question but is there anyway of adding a short nation profile to the Wiki.
*awaiting the mocking laughs of wiki administrators, at Sinns complete stupidity on the subject*

It says how to make a nation page on the main page. Just scroll down and you will see "New Users, please start at Nation and Region Creation to create your first nation page."

It says how to make a nation page on the main page. Just scroll down and you will see "New Users, please start at Nation and Region Creation to create your first nation page."

Yeah. I'm moving the link up a bit to make it easier to see.

You can also click here (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/NSwiki:Info_boxes) for the same information.

all the warriors from monty python scream "Huzzah!" :-)

:fluffle: hola! Como estas to all the nations! how is everyone! I'm new to the forum so could someone explain this to me!

:fluffle: hola! Como estas to all the nations! how is everyone! I'm new to the forum so could someone explain this to me!Explain what? How to post like everyone else, or how to use the Wiki?

http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Mabulia


:mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5:

I've been working on the NS Wiki-page for the region 'Europa' (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Europa) today and I'm not quite pleased yet. Can anyone suggest a region on NS Wiki that has received a lot of (possitive) attention?

"Canada" has a nice one, or maybe "Eastern Europe", "Northern Ireland".

Thanks, puppet. I will surely take a look.

Someone asked today where to post notices about NSwiki. That would be here.

<bump>

yes, a second bump for the long forgotten seven months.

Someone asked today where to post notices about NSwiki. That would be here.

<bump>

May I suggest you to sticky this instead of bumping it??

May I suggest you to sticky this instead of bumping it??

It is stickied, insofar as it is linked from the Gameplay sticky. Furthermore, most NSwiki business is done on the wiki itself, so I don't see the need for constant bumping.

The wiki is great!

But - maybe I'm beeing oversensitive - are you sure that NS is a good name?

Myself, I've always fancied Bruce. Bruce the Wiki. Wiki the Bruce. Brucewiki.

Ah, whatthehell, let's just keep on calling it NSWiki. Saves having to send out umpty-thousand name-change e-mails.

But - maybe I'm beeing oversensitive - are you sure that NS is a good name?For the NationStates Wiki? Yes, I think it's a very good name.

For the NationStates Wiki? Yes, I think it's a very good name.

Lol...what on earth?

Is "NS" slang or an abbreviation for something?

Leave it to one of the oldest nations to just get around to posting one, but here goes:
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Laidir

Is "NS" slang or an abbreviation for something?

Nation. States. So yeah, it's an abbreviation.

And changing it would be an unholy mess at this point.

Goober, Pacitalia and others are getting repeated requests about this, so I thought I'd just raise it here: we know about the max_questions error that you may sometimes encounter. It's to do with the server. The administrator is aware, though, and fixing this is on the To Do list.

Please don't ask the sysops about this, as it's out of our hands. Thanks.

~Gruen
(User:Gruenberg2, NSwiki sysop)

http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Itinerate_Tree_Dweller

One of the best articles on NSWiki :cool:

I apologize for the grave digging and this might also be terribly out of place. Nevertheless I am compelled to ask. I've noticed alot of very nice looking regional maps on the wikipages. I've hoped to improve Canada's map and to create a map for my own nation. Canada6. Can anyone recommended a software or tool. I've been working with Photoshop but it takes up to much time to create an interesting looking map.

rip from real maps, add changes in paint, then sharpen/blur multiple times in photosop. That's what I do for a good map.

While this has been dug up, I'll add a note.

Linkspam

There's been a fair amount of linkspamming on NSwiki recently. Generally, they use <-- tags so it won't show up on the page itself - only when you open it to edit it will you see a long list of links (designed to boost their pagerank in Google). If you come across this, please revert the page to the last clean version, if possible, and report the vandalism. If you make a note on my talk page, or another sysop's, we will deal with it as quickly as possible. Thanks.

http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Itinerate_Tree_Dweller

One of the best articles on NSWiki :cool:
wow...and i thought i was being too detailed.

http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Edvardus

Ugh...it's irritating when more attention is drawn to NSwiki.

Why?

Why?

Overloads an already overloaded server.

Which server are we talking about?

Which server are we talking about?

The NSwiki server.

The NSwiki server.

The poor thing.

While this has been dug up, I'll add a note.

Linkspam

There's been a fair amount of linkspamming on NSwiki recently. Generally, they use <-- tags so it won't show up on the page itself - only when you open it to edit it will you see a long list of links (designed to boost their pagerank in Google). If you come across this, please revert the page to the last clean version, if possible, and report the vandalism. If you make a note on my talk page, or another sysop's, we will deal with it as quickly as possible. Thanks.

I have been editing at a vicious pace recently and on several sub-pages of Canada's regional page (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Canada) I have placed many links to our regional forum so that I can quickly know where I can retrieve the information to complete the pages in the future. I hope this doesn't pose any problem.

I have been editing at a vicious pace recently and on several sub-pages of Canada's regional page (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Canada) I have placed many links to our regional forum so that I can quickly know where I can retrieve the information to complete the pages in the future. I hope this doesn't pose any problem.
Oh, no that's fine. I'm talking about commercial spammers. Linking to your own pages is not a problem - in fact, it's good practice.

Oh I see what you're getting at now. :cool:

Overloads an already overloaded server.
yeah, i've realised that the server is constantly overloading. i would say 2/3 times i try going there, i can't

yeah, i've realised that the server is constantly overloading. i would say 2/3 times i try going there, i can't
Makes me wonder if I should save all the articles I've edited, in text files just to be sure.

Makes me wonder if I should save all the articles I've edited, in text files just to be sure.
I keep a copy of all my articles of my website. Actually, there are a few that aren't on the Wiki yet 'cause of the database errors.

yeah, i've realised that the server is constantly overloading. i would say 2/3 times i try going there, i can't

The server is utter Crap. Nearly 85% of the time it becomes Overloaded. I remeber a few months ago, none of that. It has become Extreamly Annoying.

I think we need two or three versions of this, split alphabetically and categorically.

my nations nswiki is now open! click here to see. (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Zanski)

http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Itinerate_Tree_Dweller

One of the best articles on NSWiki :cool:
It actually reminds me of a somewhat less detailed version of my page/complex, which I've been working on for more than a year and which still isn't complete. :p

Also, is there any chance that the server overloads will be fixed soon? Virtually every time I try to change or view anything, I get a database error.

Not until a new server is procured.

It's beginning to look that way. However, Cluichstan, you are not an official representative of NSwiki and should not speak as if you are.

Goobergunchia
Three-Year Nation
DU Regional Founder
NSwiki Administrator

It's beginning to look that way. However, Cluichstan, you are not an official representative of NSwiki and should not speak as if you are.

Goobergunchia
Three-Year Nation
DU Regional Founder
NSwiki Administrator

Didn't mean to imply I was at all. Sorry if that's how it came across. Just relaying what I had been told by one of the NSwiki sysops, when I whined about the same problem. ;)