1 Infinite Loop
02-08-2004, 08:21
As the original Sticky is lost to time now, I shall repost this one.
if anyone wants to Sticky it again please do.
Please Post all Flag Requests in the EP offsite Forum located here.
The EP forum (http://invisionfree.com/forums/The_East_Pacific/index.php?)
Flag FAQ
v 1
Introduction
Greetings since you are reading this, I will assume you are interested in learning more about Flags here on Nationstates, First of let me say, this, I have made nearly a thousand Flags as of the writing of this Faq, for those who are keeping count or score.in this post I will try to cover, general flag guidlines, tips and hints on making flags, general information, and a list of folks who are willing to help ya out.
Contents
> Introduction
> NS flag guidlines
> how I do it
> Known Flag Artisans
> Flag Ownership
>Browser and OS issues.
>Conclusion & Version Updates
NS Flag Guidelines
You can create an image on your computer and upload it as your nation's flag.
The image must be in JPEG (.jpg) format, 107x71 pixels in size, and no larger than 10KB. Images that don't conform will either not display properly or cause an error when you try to upload them.
Non-flag-like or inappropriate images are not permitted. Please don't post them.
First thing, Jpg only, doesn't matter, it will accept Gif. The sizes that this quotes are the default sizes, used to be you always saw your own flag as this size regardless of the size it actually is,and everyone else would see it as its actual size, this was changed in late fall, and now flags show up at actual size to even the owner.so while it is a moot point, I will leave it in here as it is part of NS history.
Also, the limit of 10k is a bit misleading as the server will read a flag as being too big if it is over 9.5k while this seems a bit small, it is easy to work with once you get used to it.
When I make flags, I will make them from between 107x71 to 300x200 with the latter being the largest I will make in standard flag shape, in special circumstances, I will make them taller.
The Flag upload page also states this (added recently to slow the tide of related forum post querries).
Please Note: You are replacing one uploaded flag with another. Your browser may not realize the image has changed and show you the old version it has cached instead. If you still see the old flag after uploading, refresh the page to clear your browser's cache.
This is important, also you must click the Update Settings button on the settings page or nothing will happen.
Inappropriate stuff
As the Flag uploads page says, Non-flag-like or inappropriate images are not permitted. Please don't post them.
Inappropriate is defined as
Swastikas, Don't even try to argue with the mods about this one, [violet] put the ban into effect on orders of Max, Max owns the site and the game, He lets you play, Max says No swastikas, and yes we know the reversed Swastika, or Manji is used in certain Eastern, European and American Aboriginal religions (it is also a prevalent image on quilts in the Appalachians, usually on childrens quilts), it don't matter it is too similar, and the Nazis caused you to loose your Manji priviliges.
Also we know that Stalin did worse stuff than Hitler, and you will immeadiatly say, Why is the Soviet flag allowed, Because Max allows it, the Commies may have done a lot of bad stuff I agree, but unlike the Nazis, they did do some good. You may also ask why the Confederate States of America's flag is allowed, well Owning and advocating the ownership fo Slaves, is a lot different than enslaving all the Jews you can find, working them till they drop and burning them and burning all the ones you cannot work to death.
Goatse, If you dont know what it is, count yourself lucky, if you do, you know why it is banned, as I recall the posting of the Image is a Immeadiate IP ban, consider your self warned.
Tub Girl, this is one like the above, see its description, Ditto on it here.
Nudity, ther is no reason for it, there are children in elementary school playing this game, you dont wnat to get a coruption of a minor charge, so dont do it, also ti dont matter if it is obscene, ot tasteful, or even artistic nudity, it is banned.
Also, you put a nekkid chid on your flag, and not only wil you get IP banned, [violet] WILL report you to authorities.
You have been warned.
Impersonating a mod If a Mod has a custom flag, especially one I have made, it is their flag, Do not use it, especially if you are impersonating them as it is. You will be banned most likely.
Illegal Stuff: Drugs** Things such as Drugs which are Illegal are Deemed Innapropriate for flags the cannibas leaf is exempt as it is legal in a large part of the world and is used Medicinally. References to other drugs are not appropriate and I personally will not make a flag with any drug references.
*Note this is all I have for now, expect this part to expand as more and more folks abuse various flag related privilages.
This should cover the basics or the rules side of flags, now into the technical part.
** Ruling by Myrth on 9/9/2k4 (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=355740)
How I do it.
First off, I use Google Image Search to locate the parts of the flag, Then I use Photoshop 7 to assemble the flags, I open a window, 600x400 pixels at 72 dpi resolution, this will help keep the resolution decent by allowing you to save at higher quality.
You now assemble your images and do whatever you need to make the flag look the way you want it to look. This is the hardest part, as you may have guessed.
Now, if your image is realistic stuff or really complex, convert the mode to jpg, this will keep it looking good, if it is realy simple, say 32 ot less total colors, make it a gif, the server dont care, even though it says Jpg only.
Next, you Must use the Save for Web option in your saving of the image, as it gives you ability to adjust the quality on a scale of 0 to 100. your best option is to now use the Optomize to file size ability, and set it to 5.5k, this will automatically adjust the quality to the best for the desired file size. if the quality is too low, just make the image smaller I use incriments of (width) 300, 275, 250, and 200. Photoshop will automatically adjust the Height to match the width.
lastly I upload the image to my Invision forum, and tell the person who wants it it is ready.
If you don't want to use a Invision forum, you can try, Photobucket.com, they have a free temporarty hosting place as well, or a Geocities website, however if you plan on hotlinking after you upload the file to the Geocities server you must rename it to whatever it is.txt as Geocities doesnt allow hotlinking of images, however you can hotlink text all day long.
Known Flag Artisians
We like to be called Flag Artisians, it just sounds more professional, and well this will be the hardest part of this faq to write,
First off there is me,
Loop, I work out of the thread,
NS Flag Service, it is here.
On the EP Forum (http://invisionfree.com/forums/The_East_Pacific/index.php?showforum=150)
Also if you ahve a request for me, Please post it either in the EP offsite forum, if you TM it to me, I will most likely Not see it.
Qaaolchoura Not sure how to submit requests,
PRD ditto on the above.
Myrth ditto on the above.
If you want to be a Flag Artisian, just let me know. and I will add you here.
to see examples of my work you can visit these threads.
Links may be dead
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=39061
and
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=75398
you can also see the East Pacific Ofsite forum.
Flag Ownership
Ok, the Images I make for requests ar as I see it Jointly owned, with the requester owning the flag, however I reserve the right to post it as a refernce to my work, should you see an image on a nation that you like, ALways ask the nation before you use it as using it will most likely result in a Cloning accusation.
Browser and OS issues
When downloading a flag via your browser alway right click (or for one button Mac users either click and hold or Control click) and selets Save Image as, or whatever your browser's equivalent is.
Most importantly, in Windows, when you save an image, the OS for some reason Automatically converts the Image to a BMP, or Bitmap format, you will need to remedy this or you will never be able to save a custom flag. I don't know how to do it, you will need to ask a Windows person.
Conclusion & Version Updates
thsi Faq will most likely change, as more is added to it, and all, so please watch it.
Also , Please Do Not post flag requests in this Thread. They will be ignored.
If there are any topics You feel I should add to this, please post here.
Version 1, 12/14/2k3: Covered the basics.
Version 1, 08/02/2k4: Reposted as original FAQ was lost to time.
Version 1, 08/27/2k4: Updated new Flag size limit (10k YAY!)
Version 1, 09/09/2k4; Updated Flag Apropriate material. No Longer Beta faq.
Version 1, 04/01/2005; Updated appropriate links, removed Photoisland link
=-=-=
Loop
My current flag
http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/1_infinite_loop.jpg
if anyone wants to Sticky it again please do.
Please Post all Flag Requests in the EP offsite Forum located here.
The EP forum (http://invisionfree.com/forums/The_East_Pacific/index.php?)
Flag FAQ
v 1
Introduction
Greetings since you are reading this, I will assume you are interested in learning more about Flags here on Nationstates, First of let me say, this, I have made nearly a thousand Flags as of the writing of this Faq, for those who are keeping count or score.in this post I will try to cover, general flag guidlines, tips and hints on making flags, general information, and a list of folks who are willing to help ya out.
Contents
> Introduction
> NS flag guidlines
> how I do it
> Known Flag Artisans
> Flag Ownership
>Browser and OS issues.
>Conclusion & Version Updates
NS Flag Guidelines
You can create an image on your computer and upload it as your nation's flag.
The image must be in JPEG (.jpg) format, 107x71 pixels in size, and no larger than 10KB. Images that don't conform will either not display properly or cause an error when you try to upload them.
Non-flag-like or inappropriate images are not permitted. Please don't post them.
First thing, Jpg only, doesn't matter, it will accept Gif. The sizes that this quotes are the default sizes, used to be you always saw your own flag as this size regardless of the size it actually is,and everyone else would see it as its actual size, this was changed in late fall, and now flags show up at actual size to even the owner.so while it is a moot point, I will leave it in here as it is part of NS history.
Also, the limit of 10k is a bit misleading as the server will read a flag as being too big if it is over 9.5k while this seems a bit small, it is easy to work with once you get used to it.
When I make flags, I will make them from between 107x71 to 300x200 with the latter being the largest I will make in standard flag shape, in special circumstances, I will make them taller.
The Flag upload page also states this (added recently to slow the tide of related forum post querries).
Please Note: You are replacing one uploaded flag with another. Your browser may not realize the image has changed and show you the old version it has cached instead. If you still see the old flag after uploading, refresh the page to clear your browser's cache.
This is important, also you must click the Update Settings button on the settings page or nothing will happen.
Inappropriate stuff
As the Flag uploads page says, Non-flag-like or inappropriate images are not permitted. Please don't post them.
Inappropriate is defined as
Swastikas, Don't even try to argue with the mods about this one, [violet] put the ban into effect on orders of Max, Max owns the site and the game, He lets you play, Max says No swastikas, and yes we know the reversed Swastika, or Manji is used in certain Eastern, European and American Aboriginal religions (it is also a prevalent image on quilts in the Appalachians, usually on childrens quilts), it don't matter it is too similar, and the Nazis caused you to loose your Manji priviliges.
Also we know that Stalin did worse stuff than Hitler, and you will immeadiatly say, Why is the Soviet flag allowed, Because Max allows it, the Commies may have done a lot of bad stuff I agree, but unlike the Nazis, they did do some good. You may also ask why the Confederate States of America's flag is allowed, well Owning and advocating the ownership fo Slaves, is a lot different than enslaving all the Jews you can find, working them till they drop and burning them and burning all the ones you cannot work to death.
Goatse, If you dont know what it is, count yourself lucky, if you do, you know why it is banned, as I recall the posting of the Image is a Immeadiate IP ban, consider your self warned.
Tub Girl, this is one like the above, see its description, Ditto on it here.
Nudity, ther is no reason for it, there are children in elementary school playing this game, you dont wnat to get a coruption of a minor charge, so dont do it, also ti dont matter if it is obscene, ot tasteful, or even artistic nudity, it is banned.
Also, you put a nekkid chid on your flag, and not only wil you get IP banned, [violet] WILL report you to authorities.
You have been warned.
Impersonating a mod If a Mod has a custom flag, especially one I have made, it is their flag, Do not use it, especially if you are impersonating them as it is. You will be banned most likely.
Illegal Stuff: Drugs** Things such as Drugs which are Illegal are Deemed Innapropriate for flags the cannibas leaf is exempt as it is legal in a large part of the world and is used Medicinally. References to other drugs are not appropriate and I personally will not make a flag with any drug references.
*Note this is all I have for now, expect this part to expand as more and more folks abuse various flag related privilages.
This should cover the basics or the rules side of flags, now into the technical part.
** Ruling by Myrth on 9/9/2k4 (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=355740)
How I do it.
First off, I use Google Image Search to locate the parts of the flag, Then I use Photoshop 7 to assemble the flags, I open a window, 600x400 pixels at 72 dpi resolution, this will help keep the resolution decent by allowing you to save at higher quality.
You now assemble your images and do whatever you need to make the flag look the way you want it to look. This is the hardest part, as you may have guessed.
Now, if your image is realistic stuff or really complex, convert the mode to jpg, this will keep it looking good, if it is realy simple, say 32 ot less total colors, make it a gif, the server dont care, even though it says Jpg only.
Next, you Must use the Save for Web option in your saving of the image, as it gives you ability to adjust the quality on a scale of 0 to 100. your best option is to now use the Optomize to file size ability, and set it to 5.5k, this will automatically adjust the quality to the best for the desired file size. if the quality is too low, just make the image smaller I use incriments of (width) 300, 275, 250, and 200. Photoshop will automatically adjust the Height to match the width.
lastly I upload the image to my Invision forum, and tell the person who wants it it is ready.
If you don't want to use a Invision forum, you can try, Photobucket.com, they have a free temporarty hosting place as well, or a Geocities website, however if you plan on hotlinking after you upload the file to the Geocities server you must rename it to whatever it is.txt as Geocities doesnt allow hotlinking of images, however you can hotlink text all day long.
Known Flag Artisians
We like to be called Flag Artisians, it just sounds more professional, and well this will be the hardest part of this faq to write,
First off there is me,
Loop, I work out of the thread,
NS Flag Service, it is here.
On the EP Forum (http://invisionfree.com/forums/The_East_Pacific/index.php?showforum=150)
Also if you ahve a request for me, Please post it either in the EP offsite forum, if you TM it to me, I will most likely Not see it.
Qaaolchoura Not sure how to submit requests,
PRD ditto on the above.
Myrth ditto on the above.
If you want to be a Flag Artisian, just let me know. and I will add you here.
to see examples of my work you can visit these threads.
Links may be dead
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=39061
and
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=75398
you can also see the East Pacific Ofsite forum.
Flag Ownership
Ok, the Images I make for requests ar as I see it Jointly owned, with the requester owning the flag, however I reserve the right to post it as a refernce to my work, should you see an image on a nation that you like, ALways ask the nation before you use it as using it will most likely result in a Cloning accusation.
Browser and OS issues
When downloading a flag via your browser alway right click (or for one button Mac users either click and hold or Control click) and selets Save Image as, or whatever your browser's equivalent is.
Most importantly, in Windows, when you save an image, the OS for some reason Automatically converts the Image to a BMP, or Bitmap format, you will need to remedy this or you will never be able to save a custom flag. I don't know how to do it, you will need to ask a Windows person.
Conclusion & Version Updates
thsi Faq will most likely change, as more is added to it, and all, so please watch it.
Also , Please Do Not post flag requests in this Thread. They will be ignored.
If there are any topics You feel I should add to this, please post here.
Version 1, 12/14/2k3: Covered the basics.
Version 1, 08/02/2k4: Reposted as original FAQ was lost to time.
Version 1, 08/27/2k4: Updated new Flag size limit (10k YAY!)
Version 1, 09/09/2k4; Updated Flag Apropriate material. No Longer Beta faq.
Version 1, 04/01/2005; Updated appropriate links, removed Photoisland link
=-=-=
Loop
My current flag
http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/1_infinite_loop.jpg