NationStates Jolt Archive

After a few telegram exchanges with Gatesville Founder, Gates the god, about the current debates in Moderation about the legality of recruiting telegrams and what impact this will have on Founders and regions in NationStates.

We've decided to start a region for Founders, specifically for puppets of Founders of the regions of NationStates, in an attempt to bring together nations to discuss matters of importance, like the recruitment issue.

Any Founder interested in taking part in the region, please telegram me, Tuesday Heights II, or Gates the god, for the password.

A regional off-site forum for Founders will be set-up within the next few days!

Interesting idea

Interesting idea

Thanks, Neo England; now, let's see what the rest of the NS world thinks!

What is this for exactly? Just talking about recruitment? I just went through a puppet prune and haven't really got spare puppets for every venture I run across, unlike in the past. :p

Once its finished its current job, I'll move my embassy there.

And Unfree People - Looking at the word factbook entry, I'm guessing topics change.

Uh oh, this is what I get for not checking in on the other forums. Sounds like it could be important to me too. I'll be there.

Once its finished its current job, I'll move my embassy there.

And Unfree People - Looking at the word factbook entry, I'm guessing topics change.
I've gotten more than enough spam from you trying to get me and my puppets to move to Scroll Islands. I'd say you don't have a problem in the recruitment department... you seem very dedicated ;)

Its been a regional goal to get to 200 since the dawn of my region, we're almost there, hence all hands on deck.

Dedicated... maybe... bored of recruiting.. certainly

Its been a regional goal to get to 200 since the dawn of my region, we're almost there, hence all hands on deck.
Arr, see, that's convinced me more than your recruitment spam did ;)

I'll have a look through the puppets and see what I can spare. :p

What is this for exactly? Just talking about recruitment?

No the topics will change as they come up; currently, we are discussing the issue of recruiting telegrams, because some members want them eliminated while some of us others don't.

So, we'll start from there and see how it develops.

Our off-site forums are up!

Check them out!

http://s4.invisionfree.com/Founders/

Just for founders. Right.

Democratically elected leaders? Nah, they don't count ...

I think someone is already doing this. Check out the region: "Regional Delegates" You have the forum, they have the region!

Just for founders. Right.

Democratically elected leaders? Nah, they don't count ...

You're right, they don't count; that's why they're not the Founders of regions, they are simply Delegates, which nowadays, are hardly elected but are either coerced or endorsement-swapped.

The difference between "Regional Delegates" and "Founders" is simple: Founders can control many more aspects of the actual region than UN Delegates can and do within the confines of this game, therefore, we also deserve a region to discuss issues as only Founders can. Simple and pure as that.

Bump.

You're right, they don't count; that's why they're not the Founders of regions, they are simply Delegates, which nowadays, are hardly elected but are either coerced or endorsement-swapped.

The difference between "Regional Delegates" and "Founders" is simple: Founders can control many more aspects of the actual region than UN Delegates can and do within the confines of this game, therefore, we also deserve a region to discuss issues as only Founders can. Simple and pure as that.
The anti-delegate bigottry is simply appalling.

The anti-delegate bigottry is simply appalling.

Why so?

The words I speak are true; many Delegates do not take the initiative or the time to take their duties seriously, thus, Founders keep real control and ground over a region.

Hence, why we come together, it's not politics, it's fair play.

That's your point of view. And I'd guess a lot of people prefer the security of a region with a founder who has complete control – and is free to ignore their wishes, deny control to their elected representative, and eject whoever they like.

Others are less keen on living in a region with a monarch who has total power. They prefer something a bit more collective, a bit more team-like ... and to know that their delegate serves their wishes, or they can elect another. Maybe they enjoy the "edginess" of knowing their region is on every crasher's hitlist, and the occasional fun of watching a few wannabe invaders being punted to Kandarin.

Hey, whatever your style is, you can play it here. ;-)

Instead of pretending like the Founder is a dictator... perhaps, take a look at my region, everything - except my position of President - is up for grabs in regional elections. My region is perfectly democratic without Delegate control.

I agree with Tuesday Heights here, Founders always have control of the region. UN Delegates don't, besides as said before, thousands are only there because of endorsement swapping.

Instead of pretending like the Founder is a dictator... perhaps, take a look at my region, everything - except my position of President - is up for grabs in regional elections. My region is perfectly democratic without Delegate control.
Ah, but the foundership position is a dictatorship. It's just that you're treating it as much like a democracy as the game allows you. By your own admittance - your position isn't elected - it is a dictatorship.

Totally agreed, however, just because my national decription says one thing doesn't mean I can't role-play out another... which is what I choose to do with my position - a merely administrative role.

Sounds like a good idea.

Thanks, Susa!

BUMP

Come on, lot, join us!

My Man, The Angel of God, Will be there once we have to password. If you will, please telegram it to that particular, and I will be there shortly.

Ah, but the foundership position is a dictatorship. It's just that you're treating it as much like a democracy as the game allows you. By your own admittance - your position isn't elected - it is a dictatorship.


I quite disagree. I am an Elected Founder. The region of Heaven was under massive region crashing problems (everyone getting booted and whatnot), and I happened to have resided there for about 4 months prior to this assault, and since the Original Founder had long since died, when the Moderators sent their man to the region, my name and my time there made me the perfect candidate for Foundership. I have been the Founder of Heaven for about 7 months or so, now.

This practice, founder elections, have not been implemented in some regions do to intense internal strife, such as in the case of Hell, where no person could be decided upon, and so the matter was dropped.

Please, all Founders interested, the password has been lifted; we value your support and input!