NationStates Jolt Archive

I hate to say this but invading is nearly gone. Mostly because the number of regions without founders is everdecreasing, and that delegates and founders will call on the moderators for deletion when all rules are followed. 6 months ago there were about 14 main invading powers, now there are 6. Something should be done or we will lose an element in gameplay. :(

Who are the 6?

Actually I believe the Defenders wil become the invaders as the invaders die off, and I beleive that Defenders who do so convert will be worse griefers than the Invaders ever could be, because of teh Mod support they recieve as well as the general good impression they have among the proles.

Actually I believe the Defenders wil become the invaders as the invaders die off, and I beleive that Defenders who do so convert will be worse griefers than the Invaders ever could be, because of teh Mod support they recieve as well as the general good impression they have among the proles.You've heard about the latest tactic of a certain large defender cell who'll remain nameless have you? They now defend regions which aren't being invaded, on a rota basis. Thursday they'll defend one region, Friday the next and so on, thus causing chaos in the regions they defend with no good cause, all in the name of "keeping the troops interested". It really makes you wonderwhat exactly they think their purpose is, doesn't it?

yes weve heard of the adn, spoffin :)

You know the ADN is getting mod support when they are allowed to only send the password of the region to "a few very trustful natives" of something theyve taken.

Universal Power: If you feel invaders are dying off then do something about it.

Ronald

yes weve heard of the adn

Ronald, I'd back off with your anti-ADN tirades, as your spamming of the feeder regions has proven your stance.

Invasions are a part of the game, yes, get over it. However, I concur with the rest that defenders will slowly become the invaders, and it will be worse, not because of mod bias or whatever but simply because they think they can get away with it.

Actually I believe the Defenders wil become the invaders as the invaders die off, and I beleive that Defenders who do so convert will be worse griefers than the Invaders ever could be, because of teh Mod support they recieve as well as the general good impression they have among the proles.You've heard about the latest tactic of a certain large defender cell who'll remain nameless have you? They now defend regions which aren't being invaded, on a rota basis. Thursday they'll defend one region, Friday the next and so on, thus causing chaos in the regions they defend with no good cause, all in the name of "keeping the troops interested". It really makes you wonderwhat exactly they think their purpose is, doesn't it?


....Maybe I'm completly confused, but last I checked this was a defensive rotation within our own member regions or allies in order to keep the troops active and the regions defended as there is this little thing going on with Ireland.....

Nothing is going on with Ireland because the ADN's Secretary of Defense EuroSoviets lacks the skills needed to take down Ireland. So he decides to invade some regions to keep the military active, and claims it all in the name of defence. The people believe it too, because the mods do not delete nations from defender orgs.

yes weve heard of the adn

Ronald, I'd back off with your anti-ADN tirades, as your spamming of the feeder regions has proven your stance.

Invasions are a part of the game, yes, get over it. However, I concur with the rest that defenders will slowly become the invaders, and it will be worse, not because of mod bias or whatever but simply because they think they can get away with it.
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Actually I believe the Defenders wil become the invaders as the invaders die off, and I beleive that Defenders who do so convert will be worse griefers than the Invaders ever could be, because of teh Mod support they recieve as well as the general good impression they have among the proles.You've heard about the latest tactic of a certain large defender cell who'll remain nameless have you? They now defend regions which aren't being invaded, on a rota basis. Thursday they'll defend one region, Friday the next and so on, thus causing chaos in the regions they defend with no good cause, all in the name of "keeping the troops interested". It really makes you wonderwhat exactly they think their purpose is, doesn't it?


....Maybe I'm completly confused, but last I checked this was a defensive rotation within our own member regions or allies in order to keep the troops active and the regions defended as there is this little thing going on with Ireland.....Well, nominally yes, but I hear rumblings of delegates who are unhappy about people trampling through their region while they're trying to keep an eye on things, especially when theres no current threat. I've also heard of it practised or being planned to be practised in regions with founders, so defence clearly isn't the full picture.

Alright, if the invasion aspect of the game is going out, then unless the defenders become the invaders, surely they will die out too, due to a lack of military interest with no one left to defend. If this is the case then defense becomes invasion, and a new batch, possibly splintered of orgs like the ADN or RLA will become defenders again. Surely it'll just go on like this for a long time

If you like invading, take a look at the region of Warzone Sandbox.

Heh, I rather doubt that the NS world will ever soon run out of invaders. I believe that the recent spate of inactivity for them is due mostly to them wasting their energy attacking the ADN and other defender orgs, than recruiting and havin' a go at the all out raidin'.

As for Defender orgs turning into invaders....<shrugs> I don't see defender groups turning to invading anytime soon...well, my own FF is a bit of an exception, but a small one.... Or, at least not turning to raiding.

Actually I believe the Defenders wil become the invaders as the invaders die off, and I beleive that Defenders who do so convert will be worse griefers than the Invaders ever could be, because of teh Mod support they recieve as well as the general good impression they have among the proles.You've heard about the latest tactic of a certain large defender cell who'll remain nameless have you? They now defend regions which aren't being invaded, on a rota basis. Thursday they'll defend one region, Friday the next and so on, thus causing chaos in the regions they defend with no good cause, all in the name of "keeping the troops interested". It really makes you wonderwhat exactly they think their purpose is, doesn't it?


....Maybe I'm completly confused, but last I checked this was a defensive rotation within our own member regions or allies in order to keep the troops active and the regions defended as there is this little thing going on with Ireland.....Well, nominally yes, but I hear rumblings of delegates who are unhappy about people trampling through their region while they're trying to keep an eye on things, especially when theres no current threat. I've also heard of it practised or being planned to be practised in regions with founders, so defence clearly isn't the full picture.


I don't know....I haven't heard any complaints yet, of course I am retired from SecDef so I may just have not heard about it, but still....if you know of any specific delegates who would prefer not to have anyone come through who it was planned to I'm sure if the complaint was sent to someone in the ADN no one will be sent. I also don't know anything about the defensive rotation including founder protected regions.

why would the loss of invading be a gameplay elemint we should morn?

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why would the loss of invading be a gameplay element we should morn?

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Because then the hundreds of defender nations would have nothing better to do with their time, get bored, and...I don't know, but it would be bad.

why would the loss of invading be a gameplay elemint we should morn?

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It would take away the interesting discussions about invaders throughout the game. It would also kill the various news services that have sprung up over the year or so. 8)

It would take away the interesting discussions about invaders throughout the game. It would also kill the various news services that have sprung up over the year or so. 8)

Well the interesting discussions, I for one have memorized after seeing them so often...both sides...

Though it would be tragic to kill the news services lol.

Actually I believe the Defenders wil become the invaders as the invaders die off, and I beleive that Defenders who do so convert will be worse griefers than the Invaders ever could be, because of teh Mod support they recieve as well as the general good impression they have among the proles.

Well, then in realizing that the support of the masses and mods is important, they're smarter than the old invaders ever were. What we're really seeing here is the evolution of a new class of invader.

Speaking of "proles", the whole situation reminds me of 1984 in another way. Remember the Ministry of Peace, which ironically waged war? Well, here we have Defenders, who Invade. How neat! :wink:

Ah I love you guys - you're great comic relief. Now, let's deal with these lies one by one...

I've not bothered to find out who they're from; you can sort that out among yourselves.

Nothing is going on with Ireland because the ADN's Secretary of Defense EuroSoviets lacks the skills needed to take down Ireland. So he decides to invade some regions to keep the military active, and claims it all in the name of defence. The people believe it too, because the mods do not delete nations from defender orgs.

The skill needed to take down a region under a password? Hardly. The ADN has not invaded any region, ever. We stop invaders and for the records, we have so far stopped five Irish invasions of ADN member regions and have dealt with Alphaks and his million-and-one puppets and invader minions in Minnesota. We've defended Celtic Warrior and several other regions. No invasions. If you're going to lie at least make it convincing.

You've heard about the latest tactic of a certain large defender cell who'll remain nameless have you? They now defend regions which aren't being invaded, on a rota basis.

The rotational defence idea belongs to Blackbird and I - it was based solely for ADN regions and RLA regions - the regions were Urbanites, The Proletariat Coalition, Greece, The United Peoples of Abraham, New Aldaria and various other ADN or RLA members. Three days after we implemented it, we rejected it in favour of centralising our resources and waiting until Ireland and their invader allies struck again.

Alright, if the invasion aspect of the game is going out, then unless the defenders become the invaders, surely they will die out too, due to a lack of military interest with no one left to defend.

Well done. If you lot die out, our armies will sit and do nothing. Our organisations will continue to exist as centres for the exchange of political ideas and cultural ideas and our militaries will exist to defend our own regions - but other than that, with no rampant invaders, we're not required. I look forward to the day.

What about the CDI? I heard they were an excessively large invader bloc. Is this true? If they are then I don't think we'll have to worry about invaders dying out anytime soon.

large and successful are two very different things... ;)

What about the CDI? I heard they were an excessively large invader bloc. Is this true? If they are then I don't think we'll have to worry about invaders dying out anytime soon.

Large, yes, but large numbers of invaders have a hard time working together.

Well I think some defenders will jump to invaders due to the over welming amount of defenders in the warzone regions.

And my region works well together we are on a streak of successful invasions

Actually I believe the Defenders wil become the invaders as the invaders die off, and I beleive that Defenders who do so convert will be worse griefers than the Invaders ever could be, because of teh Mod support they recieve as well as the general good impression they have among the proles.

Well, then in realizing that the support of the masses and mods is important, they're smarter than the old invaders ever were. What we're really seeing here is the evolution of a new class of invader.

Speaking of "proles", the whole situation reminds me of 1984 in another way. Remember the Ministry of Peace, which ironically waged war? Well, here we have Defenders, who Invade. How neat! :wink:

Never Presume that the ADN is or ever wil be more intellegent than the Farkers.
We Invented Invasion.
and I thoroughly beleive the farkers in their Prime (around teh time of the Heartland invasion) could PWN the ADN in their Prime (currently)

its comming alive trust me :wink:

Never Presume that the ADN is or ever wil be more intellegent than the Farkers.
We Invented Invasion.
and I thoroughly beleive the farkers in their Prime (around teh time of the Heartland invasion) could PWN the ADN in their Prime (currently)

I agree with Loop on this one--there hasn't been an invader group quite like the Farkers were in their day. Thank God for that! LOL :wink:

I say pish posh, invading is more alive than ever before.