NationStates Jolt Archive

An unfortunate set of consequences has led to a period of global war in Nationstates, with belligerents compunded many times by their allies and friends, who throw in their lot with one side or another.

We must learn from the errors made by our real-life counterparts in World War I, and end this war now. Forget broken pride or failed ambition, they are sacrifices that must be made to end this conflict immediately in armistice.

Neither side can hope to win, by military strength or by attrition. Both sides are composed mostly of fortified, Founder-defended regions, invulnerable to attack. Major Founderless regions on both sides are all active, large, and easily reinforced. An attack to take any of them could be thwarted by all but the most flawed intelligence service. All that either side can do is prey on the small, insignificant regions of the other- an action that is neither decisive nor conducive to victory. Even continous failure in these battlgrounds will not lead to defeat for one side, as both are composed of the legitimate governments of major regions. Invaders fade away with a few defeats, but a region, even one without a founder, that remains stalwart cannot fall.

As you go on futilely picking away at each other's minor holdings and plotting easily thwarted attacks on major ones, the propaganda machines of both the ADN and the Irish/Imperial Germany alliance will continue to brand their opponents as invaders, when in fact all participants are either neutral or defenders by nature. We will all end up branded as invaders while real invaders have free reign as we fight amongst ourselves.

It does not matter who started this- perhaps the Irish started it by attacking the Province. Perhaps they were provoked by earlier ADN interference in Northern Ireland. It doesn't matter, because neither of you will be able to prove or convince the other.

To the Irish, Imperial Germans, and their allies, I say that you are being manipulated as a tool by the international invader community. While their greatest foe is distracted with you, they will do whatever they please, and build their forces toward their goal of domination of the world, including you.

To the ADN, I say that you should not fight for an apology. You will not get one. In a world where application of force is virtually nonexistant and easily prevented, you cannot force your enemies to the conference table. They must be willing to come.

We can only hope to lose, Irish or ADN alike, in a war such as this. Battle lines and grand showings of force aside, this will be a long, painful, inconclusive war. Put aside your many differences, call off hostilities, and stop it now while you still can.

Far be it from me to disagree with the delegate of The Rejected Realms, but I fear that such drivel must be dealt a short sharp blow.

Many of you in NS know me, though I do not post on the forums of NS as much as I might like - largely born of their annoying tendency to be inactive right when they are needed. I am not a warmonger, I am not a preacher of hate, I see no benefit in war, in and of itself.

However, I will say this; the ADN and the RLA fight to ensure that open season is not declared on all our home regions - that will apply to many of the people who read this thread. I will not stand by and allow members of a region which in the NS world is considered something of a joke to pay insult to the greatest alliances in the NS world by waltzing into an allied region and wresting control of the delegacy, like common invaders. They proceeded to heap other insults on the first by a childish barrage of insults on the ADN forums.

The goals for which we fight are honourable and not related to revenge: we aim to prove a point. Invaders will not survive an attack on an ADN region, in the long run and in the short term we will make their existence in this game hellish.

On the matter of Northern Ireland, I quote Leon Trotsky; the end justifies the means, so long as there is something to justify the end. Look at Northern Ireland now; it is a small region that flourishes, with attempts to set up a regional government. One has only to ask if USSR-Ireland-Imperial Germany would have set up such a government without filling it with their puppets and one realises that the ADN did exactly the right thing in freeing the region from the tyranny that beset it. Yesterday Victories, the delegate, sent me a telegram explaining that he supported the ADN. There is no equivocation on this point; Ireland, USSR and IG had no claim to Northern Ireland, full stop. This rubbish about 'Irish unity' is exactly that - every region has the right to lead itself.

This war can be won or lost, and I aim to ensure that we win it, by any means, within the rules of the game, that is necessary. By treachery, espionage or invasion, Ireland will kneel before the ADN and then we will declare the war at a pause, to see if the Irish recognise their own fate and can hold up their heads like honourable men and acknowledge a defeat.

Regards,
F.K. Druslov,
Strategos of the Communist Federation of EuroSoviets
(Ancient Sparta, Commander of the RLA Forces)

NI was thriving prior to your interference. There were several Irish natives in NI which have been banned and not able to return. USV was not the delegate prior to the change of delegate to Cu Mara. Get your facts straight. So how can you justify that action? You will not break Ireland and we will not bow before anyone. The nation states community is tired of your self-righteous acts of war. We invaded a small ADN region with and active founder as a small point to your massive war machine that we can find kinks in your armor. Many have TG'd me telling me you need to be taken down a peg or two. Believe me Ireland is up for this. We have the will and tireless dedication to do this even as others have failed. You will not forget the day you messed with Ireland, IG, and the USSR.

I do not want this war; Ireland does. If it did not want war it should of never courted it by attacking ADN territory.

NI was thriving prior to your interference. There were several Irish natives in NI which have been banned and not able to return. USV was not the delegate prior to the change of delegate to Cu Mara. Get your facts straight. So how can you justify that action? You will not break Ireland and we will not bow before anyone. The nation states community is tired of your self-righteous acts of war. We invaded a small ADN region with and active founder as a small point to your massive war machine that we can find kinks in your armor. Many have TG'd me telling me you need to be taken down a peg or two. Believe me Ireland is up for this. We have the will and tireless dedication to do this even as others have failed. You will not forget the day you messed with Ireland, IG, and the USSR.

We've talked to the NI natives. You have twisted truths on every forum possible, and your propaganda is not worth the time of a response. Those active in regional politics know the truth.

As for the kinks in our armor...way to go. Big feat, attacking a small, peaceful region while the Founder sleeps. You should be proud. :roll:

Does the USSR know that you are including their name in this fight? Does the NPO?

NI was thriving prior to your interference. There were several Irish natives in NI which have been banned and not able to return. USV was not the delegate prior to the change of delegate to Cu Mara. Get your facts straight. So how can you justify that action? You will not break Ireland and we will not bow before anyone. The nation states community is tired of your self-righteous acts of war. We invaded a small ADN region with and active founder as a small point to your massive war machine that we can find kinks in your armor. Many have TG'd me telling me you need to be taken down a peg or two. Believe me Ireland is up for this. We have the will and tireless dedication to do this even as others have failed. You will not forget the day you messed with Ireland, IG, and the USSR.

We've talked to the NI natives. You have twisted truths on every forum possible, and your propaganda is not worth the time of a response. Those active in regional politics know the truth.

As for the kinks in our armor...way to go. Big feat, attacking a small, peaceful region while the Founder sleeps. You should be proud. :roll:

Does the USSR know that you are including their name in this fight? Does the NPO?I'm not sure about this one, but I read some sort of news source that said that RedCommunist (of the USSR) was in support of Ireland

Well well well...what a humorous exchange.

I think I'll expound upon what springs to mind when reading this thread. I see a slapstick routine in black and white. A small group is gathered, and it seems that everyones' pants have fallen around their ankles at once. Between them, they have one handkerchief with which to cover their shame. Hilarity ensues.

Kandarin: What a rousing little speech. "The international invader community"...are the Jews in on it, too? Perhaps the terrorists...

Pope Hope: Oh, we all know how well your maneuvers have gone in the past when you tell people that you've spoken with all the natives of the region, don't we? The egg just seems to fly faster than you can wipe it from your face.

It's really a funny scene. Everyone is parading around, with their chests puffed out as they bellow about how they alone fight with honor, or how this is all the work of some unseen "other," seeming to think that if only they deny it no one will see that their honor lies crumpled around their feet.

Are any musical nations present? Certainly these shenanigans could use some silly little ditty in the background... :lol:

I really have nothing to say about this particular war but I do have a question. How do you start a war in this game? Is it basically just region crashing and you dramatacize it or what? please help me out with some info im new to this game.

I really have nothing to say about this particular war but I do have a question. How do you start a war in this game? Is it basically just region crashing and you dramatacize it or what? please help me out with some info im new to this game.Perhaps starting a different thread would have been in order?

There's several kinds of war - this one involved craqshing Ireland, any of its allies, or any ADN members, and taking over the delegate spot. You can't really 'win' a war like this, except through propoganda; which is what this thread is all about.

Then there's RP war which takes place in the Nationstates and International Incidents forums, which involves developing complicated technology and bickering with other players about why your technology killed their citizens or why your nation is better than everyone else's. It's all text-based and I hold a very dim view of it, personally.

the funniest is I saw a message the other day from the NazIrish saying that the EP was aiding them as well, LOL,
ME authorize forces to fight For the dude who harassed me daily in Germany, Wotan or as you all know him EIre Shamrock,

I have little sympathy for the Irish regions, they have long been a secret Nazi Holdout in the game especially after Axis was trashed and they all fled to either Hell or Ireland.

Wow you made this to easy for me.

1. When have I (Keltic Mystery) ever stated anything concerning the NPO? Once again get the facts straight. You are once again trying to use your propaganda and try to make it fact. But wait I did just say NPO. My bad. The NPO is not allied with Ireland. <--- Make sure you read that again so you are not confused. USSR is an ally currently of Ireland. <---Read that again so you understand the facts. Cu Mara was a native and won the delegate. Only after a crack on 'drunk Irish' comment did Cu Mara inform them that he was Irish. It had never came up before because it did not matter so he thought. But it did matter to the English nations who cried foul and tried to rally support from English nations to regain control. Cu Mara seeing that outside interference was coming called on Irish support and so it goes. *end of regional political education*.

2. As far as kinks in the armor. Yes I do find it a big feat since the ADN is all-knowing and all-powerful. Where were you guys? Sleeping like the over-confident bunch that you are. But we see we have now awakened you haven't we. Rattle the cage a bit did we?

3. If you need any more lessons please feel free to ask.

4. You have been served *dances off the forum*




We've talked to the NI natives. You have twisted truths on every forum possible, and your propaganda is not worth the time of a response. Those active in regional politics know the truth.

As for the kinks in our armor...way to go. Big feat, attacking a small, peaceful region while the Founder sleeps. You should be proud. :roll:

Does the USSR know that you are including their name in this fight? Does the NPO?