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Red Liberty Alliance Declares war on Ireland

Arnarchotopia
04-06-2004, 16:07
RLA declares war on Ireland

Honourable Representatives and members of the Press, it will with profound sadness, yet steadfast in purpose, that the Red Liberty Alliance announces it's intention to follow the ADN to war against Ireland and those that aid and abet her, in an unjustifiable defence of a raider force which attacked an innocent and unprotected region, without formal warning and without provocation.

The Red Liberty Alliance announces it's intention to follow ADN forces into battle if need be, though we reserve all tactical decisions for ourselves.

The foundations of the RLA are democracy, freedom and peace. For these goals we fight and for the breaching of these ideals, Ireland and those who stand between that region and the justice that awaits, will pay.

Our goals at the outset of war are simple; we will have a full and unconditional, formal and written apology for the attack on a friendly and innocent region and we will take oaths that the our allies and friends will remain free and undisturbed, without hindrance from Ireland or her assorted allies.

To our friends and allies, we promise no quick victory, but we march as Rohan to the Gondor of the ADN; a stand for what is right, and decent and good. Allies prepared to fight to the end.

Signed,

Anarchotopia Central Director of the RLA
EuroSoviets Commander of the RLAF
Blackbird Director of the RLAI

http://rlanews.blogdrive.com/
Emperor Matthuis
04-06-2004, 16:16
But if you want peace, then isn't invading a region kind of pointless?

Why don't you just threaten Ireland and try and get the support of its residents?
Keltic Mystery
04-06-2004, 16:22
No ADN region is innocent. The ADN took part in removing the Irish from Northern Ireland and install a dictator USV - which currently only holds 3 endorsements. The Irish before being removed and kicked out by USV with the support of the ADN held over 20 endorsements. It was a thriving region gaining new members. Now it is a waste land. No English regions want to move there. The Irish wants to live in this region but we are being kept out of an area that is rightfully ours. This is the cause of this animosity toward the ADN. Until NI is returned to a democratic region without password protection and those interested in living in NI stay and elect a democratic delegate we will not sleep. I hope you are ready for this war because we definitely are.
Arnarchotopia
04-06-2004, 16:51
Is this the official response from Ireland? Are you rejecting the idea of giving a full apology?
Spoffin
04-06-2004, 16:54
Ooh, now THIS is interesting...
Arnarchotopia
04-06-2004, 17:01
Ooh, now THIS is interesting...

Which side will you be on?
Celtea
04-06-2004, 17:42
Is this the official response from Ireland? Are you rejecting the idea of giving a full apology?

Apologize for what? Maybe if the ADN apologized for it's invasions of various Irish regions including Blarney Castle, Northern Ireland, 32 CIR, and Ireland, as well as an apology by Sugar Bear to our Delegate and Chief Bohola for calling him a puppet, then we might consider apologizing. Until then we see nothing to apologize for.
Keltic Mystery
04-06-2004, 17:49
I speak only as a member of Ireland not for her. We have many members, each with its own voice. Our delegate has yet to post a response to these ridiculous accusations. I am trying to give you the 'other' side of the story. The side the ADN does not like to be heard. They are blinded by there hatred for a single person ES/PF and trying to take it out on an entire region. We will not stand for these actions and are willing to stand by our right to protect and defend the Regions of Ireland and Northern Ireland (we will have the region again - no false dictatorship will stand there). The ADN is the cause of this current problem not the nations of Ireland. We will re-take NI and once again be a sovereign nation together with Ireland. I ask all nations siding with the ADN to take a close look into NI and see what THEY (ADN) have brought upon all of it allies. They should have keep there noses out of something that did not require their attention - this was a matter of internal Ireland/England issue. England did not even care about NI. The ADN took it upon themselves to get involved. Now look what it has come to.Is this the official response from Ireland? Are you rejecting the idea of giving a full apology?
Ballotonia
04-06-2004, 18:34
this was a matter of internal Ireland/England issue. England did not even care about NI.

If it's between the regions England and Ireland, it's not exactly 'internal' is it?

My personal view is that Northern Ireland should not be a colony of an imperialistic Ireland, but remain independent. It is true that they maintain better relations with the british regions than with Ireland. I think Ireland insisting on conquering their region and placing its native inhabitants under foreign region Ireland rule is probably the reason for that.

Ballotonia
Keltic Mystery
04-06-2004, 18:46
Keltic Mystery
04-06-2004, 18:47
Agreed, internal was maybe not the correct term to use. I apologize for its use. When you are angered by the current conditions thoughts sometimes do not make it to the paper correctly. There are more Irish nations wanting to live in NI than English. Without the help from the ADN they would not be in power. I came to the game during the conflict and my first region was NI. I was booted with all other Irish nations. My nation was permanently banned from NI and so were many others. I say to you how is this fair. If more Irish nations are interested in living there than English then we have majority.

this was a matter of internal Ireland/England issue. England did not even care about NI.

If it's between the regions England and Ireland, it's not exactly 'internal' is it?

My personal view is that Northern Ireland should not be a colony of an imperialistic Ireland, but remain independent. It is true that they maintain better relations with the british regions than with Ireland. I think Ireland insisting on conquering their region and placing its native inhabitants under foreign region Ireland rule is probably the reason for that.

Ballotonia
Ballotonia
04-06-2004, 19:01
I came to the game during the conflict and my first region was NI. I was booted with all other Irish nations. My nation was permanently banned from NI and so were many others. I say to you how is this fair. If more Irish nations are interested in living there than English then we have majority.

Getting booted is the risk of taking part in invasions. Next time you decide to go and live in a region I suggest peacefully joining the natives already present and trying to fit in as equals instead of barging in as part of a large group with the intent of taking over the region. In the latter case you're an invader, and the natives generally don't like that. Defender organizations, like the ADN, will then side with the natives and help them to either keep their region or give it back to them.

The way to not fight against defenders is quite simple: do not invade. This goes double for the home region(s) of the defenders in question.

Ballotonia
Keltic Mystery
04-06-2004, 19:21
As I stated the problem was already going on when i entered the region. I did not jump on any bandwagon. I took up for both sides asking for all to live peacefully. The English nations would not stand not being in power and complained constantly. The ADN has installed a dictator with USV not allowing any democratic representation of Irish nations in NI. Anyways, the power transferred to Irish majority without a region crash I hate to tell you. If you have different facts then they are flawed. As far as going to war with them we stand ready and will stand up to these oppressors at all costs.



Getting booted is the risk of taking part in invasions. Next time you decide to go and live in a region I suggest peacefully joining the natives already present and trying to fit in as equals instead of barging in as part of a large group with the intent of taking over the region. In the latter case you're an invader, and the natives generally don't like that. Defender organizations, like the ADN, will then side with the natives and help them to either keep their region or give it back to them.

The way to not fight against defenders is quite simple: do not invade. This goes double for the home region(s) of the defenders in question.

Ballotonia
Spoffin
04-06-2004, 20:20
Ooh, now THIS is interesting...

Which side will you be on?Now thats a tough one... on the one hand I have friends and allies within the RLA and a great respect for some of its leaders... on the other hand I do really admire Ireland's pluck standing up to the ADN...
imported_Blackbird
05-06-2004, 06:18
One cannot help but notice that the members from Ireland neglect to mention that they, quite officially, invaded "The Province", a region of the ADN. Now, not only is it offensive and morally wrong to invade any region, but even more provacative to invade the region of the Vice-President of the ADN. I do not think the people of Ireland are stupid. I have a great deal of respect for their intelligence, cunning, and understanding of the politics of this world. I think that they understood what would happen if they invaded an ADN region, and these are the logical consequences. The ADN has not "invaded" a region. They seek only to defend a region from invasions when they have native support for their prescence.

The Red Liberty Alliance stands beside its defender allies in staunch defense of those who would seek to harm the defenders who keep so many regions safe from invasion and subjugation by outside forces against the wishes of the native population.
Kandarin
05-06-2004, 06:23
Is this the official response from Ireland? Are you rejecting the idea of giving a full apology?

Apologize for what? Maybe if the ADN apologized for it's invasions of various Irish regions including Blarney Castle, Northern Ireland, 32 CIR, and Ireland, as well as an apology by Sugar Bear to our Delegate and Chief Bohola for calling him a puppet, then we might consider apologizing. Until then we see nothing to apologize for.

None of those three regions has ever been invaded by the ADN.
Arnarchotopia
05-06-2004, 22:33
Ireland attacked an innocent region and now is trying to wriggle out of the cosequences. The RLA declaration of war clearly states that we will consider any region or group that helps Ireland in this enemies and will effect military operations to reduce their interference if needed.

RLA Press release: http://rlanews.blogdrive.com/