The FA- Invaders or not?
My Warrior Puppet
26-05-2004, 10:35
What is everone's opinion of the Freedom Alliance?
Crazy girl
26-05-2004, 10:55
musez is anyway, and if they follow musez, i say, yes!
Neo England
26-05-2004, 12:00
the FA just seem messed up to me ;)
1 Infinite Loop
27-05-2004, 04:42
Based on what I have personally seen, Yes they are invaders,
not very good invaders but invaders none the less.
Thorn in your Flesh
27-05-2004, 13:44
Based on what I have personally seen, Yes they are invaders,
not very good invaders but invaders none the less.
No, but they're pretty good at hurling insults and making excuses when things don't go their way.
(now I remember why I don't visit the forums very often, this post, if sucsessful, will have taken me a half hour to post :x )
Arnarchotopia
27-05-2004, 16:15
This situation is a bit more complex than it appears. I’ve known key members of the FA since last summer and have to say their level of incompetence is staggering. I would not say they are out and out invaders but much of what they’ve done under the leadership of Musez has turned out that way. He has single handily alienated not only the FA members but other credible defence organisations. His insane rantings and meddling in Red Liberty Alliance business recently in China led to a stern warning from RLA Command (of which I’m a member).
I think under new leadership with a clear defence remit (agreed by vote by the FA member regions) and a new effort to make diplomatic links with other defence orgs could save this alliance.
As for their future? To be honest its in the hands of their membership; if they choose to continue the path Musez put them on they will be opposed by the RLA and others but if they choose the path of the defender they in time (because lets face it they have much ground to make up for in terms of trust, competence and credibility) they will be welcomed into the defender community.
My only hope is that they elect a President who likes making friends rather than creating new enemies.
Anarchotopia
Central Director of the Red Liberty Alliance
Spaceisland and Musez
27-05-2004, 23:03
Glad to see the 2 month old RLA are making a statement on an issue that is of no concern to them.
The RLA is a cheap FA imitation - after all, it was Anachotopia who was very keen in joining the FA 'last summer'. I can't quite remember how he didn't. Though I also remember he was up to no good in the region "Urbanites".
You are also mistaken on China. I came to the forum to offer FA support as an act of goodwill - you rejected it. The RLA wanted to install a new delegate despite the native delegate being active - shocking.
When someone cares to attack my leadership and hence the FA, be warned, the facts history will appear.
As for incompetent; at what exactly? I'm amazed at your arrogance. Successful invasion of Atlantic, and a defence of Merica. Pretty much nothing else happened which could be judged by the outside world.
Crazy girl
27-05-2004, 23:45
Crazy girl
27-05-2004, 23:46
you annoy me, musez.
succesful invasion of atlantic? you griefed that place, and were rightfully deleted for that.
why invade that region after the AA had already died?
and defense of mercia? of a region of which the founder let his nation die on purpose? who invites invaders to come and invade in his factbook?
who himself goes off invading another region with his un nation, not even bothering to defend it?
and china..
more lies musez? you were in china, stirring up more trouble.
the active delegate wasn't able to go and kick out the invaders, cause he was in the middle of his exams, so we (with cooperation of the natives) put ananke in the delegate seat so she could do the work for him, and after that made sure the native delegate got his seat back, leaving the region as it was before the invasion started.
and defense of mercia? of a region of which the founder let his nation die on purpose? who invites invaders to come and invade in his factbook?
who himself goes off invading another region with his un nation, not even bothering to defend it?I was busy somewhere else (not invading as you stated), and if it had come close to the wire I would've come back. As it was, the defenders outnumbered the invaders hugely, so it wasn't necessary. I let the founder of Mercia die to add a bit more interest, something that NS was severely lacking at the time.
As for incompetent; at what exactly? I'm amazed at your arrogance. Successful invasion of Atlantic, and a defence of Merica. Pretty much nothing else happened which could be judged by the outside world.Ever since I commanded an army of generalites in the LUE liberation, I've been wary of anyone using "incompetant" as an insult (we adopted the insult "Incompetant army" as a badge of honour)
You are also mistaken on China. I came to the forum to offer FA support as an act of goodwill - you rejected it. The RLA wanted to install a new delegate despite the native delegate being active - shocking.
Musez, you are quite mistaken Alcadi wasn't active. He was bogged down with exams at the time and was just signing in every once in a while and wasn't paying attention to the goings on in China. In order to kick out the invaders the RLA (Which China is a member of) temporary put Ananke in charge to kick out the invaders.
Interested parties my wish to view the Invasion Thread (http://s6.invisionfree.com/China/index.php?showtopic=76) on China's Forum (http://s6.invisionfree.com/China/)
Arnarchotopia
28-05-2004, 10:42
Glad to see the 2 month old RLA are making a statement on an issue that is of no concern to them.
The RLA is a cheap FA imitation - after all, it was Anachotopia who was very keen in joining the FA 'last summer'. I can't quite remember how he didn't. Though I also remember he was up to no good in the region "Urbanites".
You are also mistaken on China. I came to the forum to offer FA support as an act of goodwill - you rejected it. The RLA wanted to install a new delegate despite the native delegate being active - shocking.
When someone cares to attack my leadership and hence the FA, be warned, the facts history will appear.
As for incompetent; at what exactly? I'm amazed at your arrogance. Successful invasion of Atlantic, and a defence of Merica. Pretty much nothing else happened which could be judged by the outside world.
Talk about revising history, last summer I was head of Intel in the Urbanites and at no time were we going to join the FA. I was not "up to no good" I was involved in a joint intel operation with you personally and the FA to stop the AA from taking another region. The reason that failed is because you got deleted for UN multying.
This thread is pretty much pointless now because you are history and the FA finally has the chance to join the defender community and put its past (the one you corrupted) behind it.
We in the RLA and others looks forward to this bright future!
Spaceisland and Musez
28-05-2004, 17:31
Indeed this thread it rather pointless as the Muzite policies have been rejected. We all have our day - it is what you accomplish before that day that history will remember. I am proud of the new FA. No longer is the cringe of the FA felt by members. She has new horizons and the members know it - she is a new FA and I predict great things for her.
Regarding China - I distinctly remember that when I made the offer to China - the delegate was active only '7 hours ago' at the time. Inactive - hardly.
Arnarchotopia
29-05-2004, 23:11
Again you lie; as you well know a native of China has explained that although the Delegate was online he couldn't check properly becuase he had exams. The natives backed our way of defending the region so your mad rantings have little of no relation to reality.
It is as you say, you've had you day, time to shut up and let the rest of us getting on with defending those who need us.
The Singular
01-06-2004, 04:13
Well it would seem that most people who took part in the poll do not like The FA
The Singular
01-06-2004, 04:36
To those who call the FA invaders, are you saying that FA is the same as DEN or Ceaser Castle that's not the case.
Also I think Ceaser would be insulted by that
imported_Blackbird
01-06-2004, 05:31
*chuckles* He might be.
Arnarchotopia
03-06-2004, 17:01
With Musez not running in the re-election the FA has a much better chance of changing people's opinion about them. Out of interest I intend to post this poll again in about a month once the new adminstration has had time to work on the FA's practice and public image.;)
It should be interesting to see if people change their minds...
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Spaceisland and Musez
08-06-2004, 15:22
Out of 36 votes, 3 did not know who the FA were.
And I ask you, without my somewhat controversial terms in office, would the FA name be as known? Of course not.
Once again she now stands tall in the world, even envied by the lesser RLA who also wish to 'defend' and liberate.
Had I been granted a third term, the alliance would have been even more bold, staunch and strong. I watch with interest the actions of the new administration, wishing them all the luck in the world.