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I recently created this nation, and it spawned in the Pacific. Within minutes, I found myself in the RR and banned from the Pacific. Please, explain your reasoning for booting this innocent small nation!

Unfortunately for everyone, the Pacific is so large that Francos can pretty much ban anyone he likes with no reason.

Also you use the wrong phrase. To my knowledge griefing means banning the whole region. And I am unfortunately guessing the moderators aren't going to want to deal with every wrongful banning in those larger regions.

I don't want to sound like I'm advertising, but I'd welcome you at my region, The Beach.

Also you use the wrong phrase. To my knowledge griefing means banning the whole region. And I am unfortunately guessing the moderators aren't going to want to deal with every wrongful banning in those larger regions.

I don't want to sound like I'm advertising, but I'd welcome you at my region, The Beach.


Or 40%


You kind of are recruiting through, on a Moderation thread 8)

I recently created this nation, and it spawned in the Pacific. Within minutes, I found myself in the RR and banned from the Pacific. Please, explain your reasoning for booting this innocent small nation!

There are so many rule loopholes regarding such things, and although the mods claim that exploiting loopholes is illegal, nations such as Francos Spain can do it and continue to do it.

It's unfair, but there you are. Difference between unfair and illegal. If you want to join a cause of people trying to do something about him within the game rules, move to Freedom Fighters and join the good fight.

Or, well, don't. Just help us next time we try to invade the pacific and oust him 8)

You're late to the discussion, FrankenFORPrez. :P

This has been asked, answered, challenged, debated, clarified, unclarified, reclarified, ranted about, raved about, and argued up, down, left, right, center, and ad nauseam.

"Francos Spain" did not come to power by invasion, he came to power by internal endorsement-swapping. Thus, he's not required to unban anybody. It's legal to be a dictator in NationStates.

Now, are there any other questions related to Moderator activity? Because if you want to discuss how ot overthrow Francos Spain, then I'd like to move this to "Gameplay".

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I recently created this nation, and it spawned in the Pacific. Within minutes, I found myself in the RR and banned from the Pacific. Please, explain your reasoning for booting this innocent small nation!

As a "Newb" this nation seems to immediatly have moved inot an established region/group-- New Meritocracy. I hope the mods check the IP for Franken and make sure they don't match up to any veteran nations in this game. If this is in fact a wolf-in-sheep's clothes, I hope they are warned for knowlingly making false claims. If they are new, then cool-- but I think it would be fair for the mods to at least look and see.

I recently created this nation, and it spawned in the Pacific. Within minutes, I found myself in the RR and banned from the Pacific. Please, explain your reasoning for booting this innocent small nation!

There are so many rule Loopholes regarding such things, and although the mods claim that exploiting Loopholes is illegal, nations such as Francos Spain can do it and continue to do it.

When will people quit focusing on me like that?
LOL

anywho, Have any of the anti Francos crowd ever considered that they are part of the problem? Sure FS is a Dictator, but the constant attacks on him, the constant flames, the constant spam against him.
Perhaps, Just Perhaps, he has to be that way in order to protect himself from You People.

Loop, Bringer of teh r00st3rs

I recently created this nation, and it spawned in the Pacific. Within minutes, I found myself in the RR and banned from the Pacific. Please, explain your reasoning for booting this innocent small nation!

As a "Newb" this nation seems to immediatly have moved inot an established region/group-- New Meritocracy. I hope the mods check the IP for Franken and make sure they don't match up to any veteran nations in this game. If this is in fact a wolf-in-sheep's clothes, I hope they are warned for knowlingly making false claims. If they are new, then cool-- but I think it would be fair for the mods to at least look and see.
Hey, calm down there. Franken wasn't making the claim that he was a noob - just that he created a new nation and got it ejected from the pacific the moment he created it, which I have to agree is a nasty thing to do.


And loop darling, FS started it. We were willing to be perfectly nice to him until he stole our region and kicked us all out. Tit for tat yknow ;)

When will people quit focusing on me like that?
LOL

:roll: hahaha

Unfree, No one Owns the Pacifics they are founderless regions.
I mean Just like I get told for griping about recruitment spam,
"That is jsut how the Pacifics are, if you don't like it Leave."

If LR can give him a chance after the slander attack, then I am willing to give him a chance.

....when was I claiming to own the Pacific? No, I'll leave that up to you guys. I was responding to your claim that he was so 'evil' in retaliation to our 'constant attacks' against him, which is CLEARLY not true as HE STARTED IT.



Um, yeah, now I just sound like I'm in fifth grade or something. Good night, everyone :lol:

Also you use the wrong phrase. To my knowledge griefing means banning the whole region. And I am unfortunately guessing the moderators aren't going to want to deal with every wrongful banning in those larger regions.

I don't want to sound like I'm advertising, but I'd welcome you at my region, The Beach.


Or 40%

That right there is one of the greatest myths ever perpetrated amongst the members of this site. 40% was mentioned only as a GUIDELINE, and in NO way constitues an exact number. Nor even a rough number. The ejections are limited to the lowest number reasonably necessary to hold a region. Remember, no banning of the natives is allowed.

and as long as we remember that there are no natives in the pacfiics....

I recently created this nation, and it spawned in the Pacific. Within minutes, I found myself in the RR and banned from the Pacific. Please, explain your reasoning for booting this innocent small nation!

As a "Newb" this nation seems to immediatly have moved inot an established region/group-- New Meritocracy. I hope the mods check the IP for Franken and make sure they don't match up to any veteran nations in this game. If this is in fact a wolf-in-sheep's clothes, I hope they are warned for knowlingly making false claims. If they are new, then cool-- but I think it would be fair for the mods to at least look and see.
Hey, calm down there. Franken wasn't making the claim that he was a noob - just that he created a new nation and got it ejected from the pacific the moment he created it, which I have to agree is a nasty thing to do.


And loop darling, FS started it. We were willing to be perfectly nice to him until he stole our region and kicked us all out. Tit for tat yknow ;)

I'm perfecrtly calm. If this nation is not a newb, then they should know the rules and not make false accusations about griefing. If this is a puppet of someone who knows better, they should be warned for knowingly making a false claim. If this is a newb, fine. If not, not so much.

If you ask Francos to unban you he will. I was banned for spamming and when I asked to be let back in he did and gave me a warning.

I'm perfecrtly calm. If this nation is not a newb, then they should know the rules and not make false accusations about griefing. If this is a puppet of someone who knows better, they should be warned for knowingly making a false claim. If this is a newb, fine. If not, not so much.Well, I disagree. Franken is not a newb and is not pretending to be, but not every player knows the rules and a whole different set of them as applied to feeder regions.

And Griffin Lord, I'm guessing Franken wasn't ejected for spamming... neither was I come to think of it :roll:

Techinically im not a newb. I had a nation that I made AGES ago but it was deleted for inactivity and soon after it was resurrected it was deleted for rule infractions :roll: My main nation right now is "Franken4Prez"


And since someone else did it, I will do it. JOIN THE POLISH MAFIA! We have had press in the major news sites and have taken regions such as Greater Nova York. Telegram Franken4Prez for the URL to our forum



P.S. this is "Franken4Prez" aka "Franken5Prez"

Techinically im not a newb. I had a nation that I made AGES ago but it was deleted for inactivity and soon after it was resurrected it was deleted for rule infractions :roll: My main nation right now is "Franken4Prez"


And since someone else did it, I will do it. JOIN THE POLISH MAFIA! We have had press in the major news sites and have taken regions such as Greater Nova York. Telegram Franken4Prez for the URL to our forum



P.S. this is "Franken4Prez" aka "Franken5Prez"


Dude if you want to advertise you have a Forum just for you, not in Moderation.

You haven't added anything in your post, so make a thread in Gameplay

And loop darling, FS started it. We were willing to be perfectly nice to him until he stole our region and kicked us all out. Tit for tat yknow


....when was I claiming to own the Pacific? No, I'll leave that up to you guys. I was responding to your claim that he was so 'evil' in retaliation to our 'constant attacks' against him, which is CLEARLY not true as HE STARTED IT.



Um, yeah, now I just sound like I'm in fifth grade or something. Good night, everyone :lol:

Im not picking on ya, but Our Region Denotes ownership, hence why I said no one owns the Pacifics.
also in the EP offsite forum, I posted a thread, I hereby accept and acknowledge FS as legal and rightful Delegate of the Pacific.
We have torn down the wall between Loop and FS, and we urge everyone else, Tear Down That Wall.

First of all, I'd recommend :arrow: Gameplay, as this thread has little to do with Moderation and my post is not going to help that. :)

We have torn down the wall between Loop and FS, and we urge everyone else, Tear Down That Wall.

It's a pity, I was coming up with plans to disrupt Francos just last night....

<--- tears down the brick wall and replaces it with laser beams

Seriously though, it's going to be nearly impossible to depose the NPO. However, I find their dictatorial principles to be unsupportable - look what they tried to do in the South Pacific. I don't want the delegate of every major region in NationStates to be ejecting nations left and right.

Im not picking on ya, but Our Region Denotes ownership, hence why I said no one owns the Pacifics. OK, fair enough. All I meant was us as in the previous natives active there.
also in the EP offsite forum, I posted a thread, I hereby accept and acknowledge FS as legal and rightful Delegate of the Pacific.
We have torn down the wall between Loop and FS, and we urge everyone else, Tear Down That Wall. Yeah, I saw that. You got yourself a fancy NPO diplomat and everything. Only thing that suprises me in that is that it came so late.

Ok just out of curiousity what is that suposed to mean?

Basically that you've never been especially against FS and reasons for that might include a matching reluctance to give up your hold on your region. No offense and you aren't as bad as FS... only insofar as you don't do mass ejections.

Also that I disapprove of this trend of recognizing and approving of FS in general. It isn't confined to your region.

I see the mods moved this to Gameplay. I am suprised the mod who moved it didn't comment on this, they should have tho I see they are busy with many other things. Obviosiuly this is not truly a case of grieifing.

I see the mods moved this to Gameplay. I am suprised the mod who moved it didn't comment on this, they should have tho I see they are busy with many other things. Obviosiuly this is not truly a case of grieifing.

Why didn't they just lock it?

I see the mods moved this to Gameplay. I am suprised the mod who moved it didn't comment on this, they should have tho I see they are busy with many other things. Obviosiuly this is not truly a case of grieifing.

Why didn't they just lock it?

Obviousily they thought it was not breaking rules, but was yet another anti-FS person who was making IC attacks at FS-- they should have said this, but in moving and not locking this they kind of did.

Come on people...
Francos has brought peace and stability to the region. We in the East Pacific have finally stopped our horrible war and have peace. We are working on further relations now. If you look at the record, most of the problems are caused by "resistors".
I think your all mad because he can hold he region while you couldn't-

Come on people...
Francos has brought peace and stability to the region. We in the East Pacific have finally stopped our horrible war and have peace. We are working on further relations now. If you look at the record, most of the problems are caused by "resistors".
I think your all mad because he can hold he region while you couldn't-

A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there's no question about it

Peace and stability came at too high a price for the 2000-odd nations who have been on his banlist at one time or another.

I fail to see why you're jumping on his bandwagon now, how would you like it if someone took over your region and kicked you and your friends out?

Seriously, it is fully within your rights to make peace between your two regions and make the best of the situation, but as for insulting everyone who got the worst of the situation and trying to talk down to us... well, please stop.

Heh, what do I do? :? :evil: I support Loopie, but I oppose Francos, and now they've allied. :tantrum:

Heh, what do I do? :? :evil: I support Loopie, but I oppose Francos, and now they've allied. :tantrum:

Recognition and Alliance are two different things,
IE Great Britian recognized Nazi Germany by giving them that territory they wanted during the appeasement thing (stupid Nevil Chamberlain)

but they sure were not allies.

Recognition and Alliance are two different things,
IE Great Britian recognized Nazi Germany by giving them that territory they wanted during the appeasement thing (stupid Nevil Chamberlain)

but they sure were not allies.
So you're still opposed to him then?

Heh, what do I do? :? :evil: I support Loopie, but I oppose Francos, and now they've allied. :tantrum:

Recognition and Alliance are two different things,
IE Great Britian recognized Nazi Germany by giving them that territory they wanted during the appeasement thing (stupid Nevil Chamberlain)

but they sure were not allies.

You might want to use a better example. :twisted:

Ok, the US and Soviet Russia.

the US recognized the Commies but Wasn't allied with them.

Ok, the US and Soviet Russia.

the US recognized the Commies but Wasn't allied with them.
Except of course when faced with a perceived greater threat. Of course Hitler actually was a greater threat, but what mattered was that they percieved it that way.

Kandarin, what's wrong with Loop's first analogy?

Ok, the US and Soviet Russia.

the US recognized the Commies but Wasn't allied with them.
Except of course when faced with a perceived greater threat. Of course Hitler actually was a greater threat, but what mattered was that they percieved it that way.

Kandarin, what's wrong with Loop's first analogy?

possibly because it alludes to me being Nevil Chamberlain, lol
(stupid Nevil Chamberlain, good lord he must have been smoking crack or something)