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Invito tu ad Caelum

21-03-2004, 03:19
A voice from the sky speaks, "Are you a Christian? If so, I invite you to Caelus (Latin for sky or heaven). You will have to pass a test, of course. A simple test of your faith to prove your Christianity."

[EDIT: Basically, all Christian nations are invited to the region Caelus as long as they telegram me first.]

[EDIT 2: Visit the new Caelus boards (http://s6.invisionfree.com/Caelus/).]
21-03-2004, 03:19
Salve! Hello and welcome to heaven! Please telegram Deus Pater, Deus Filius, or Deus Spiritus Sanctus for the password of this region. You must prove yourself to be a Christian to enter this region.
21-03-2004, 03:20
Salve! What follows is the Apostle's Creed. Do not join this region unless you agree with it completely. If you don't agree completely and you join this, Deus Pater has the right to boot you from this region.

"I believe in God, the Father Almighty,
the Creator of heaven and earth,
and in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord:

Who was conceived of the Holy Spirit,
born of the Virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died, and was buried.

He descended into hell.

The third day He arose again from the dead.

He ascended into heaven
and sits at the right hand of God the Father Almighty,
whence He shall come to judge the living and the dead.

I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy catholic* church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and life everlasting.

Amen."

*The word "catholic" doesn't refer to the Roman Catholic Church, but to the universal church of Jesus Christ.
21-03-2004, 03:23
LATIN WORDS IN ENGLISH
Deus Pater - God the Father
Deus Filius - God the Son (Jesus Christ)
Deus Spiritus Sanctus - God the Holy Spirit

Caelus - Heaven
Salve - Hello

Invito tu ad Caelum - I invite you to heaven.
Amaranthine Asphodel
21-03-2004, 03:26
*The word "catholic" doesn't refer to the Roman Catholic Church, but to the universal church of Jesus Christ.Well, I believe in ONE holy catholic and apostolic church. If you want to deny the apostolic succession, that's your own business. So I guess I'll seeya later...
21-03-2004, 03:29
*The word "catholic" doesn't refer to the Roman Catholic Church, but to the universal church of Jesus Christ.Well, I believe in ONE holy catholic and apostolic church. If you want to deny the apostolic succession, that's your own business. So I guess I'll seeya later...

There is one universal church. A lower case term "catholic" doesn't refer to "Roman Catholic," but to the Church in general. I myself think that both Roman Catholics and Protestants are saved as long as they believe in the basic Christian doctrine.
21-03-2004, 03:33
John 3:16 (NIV)
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

Using scripture, it is evident that all denominations can save as long as they believe in Jesus and:

Ephesians 2:8-9 (NIV)
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God--not by works, so that no one can boast.

[EDIT: Did I have to include a little tract in this thread?]
21-03-2004, 03:40
The voice from the sky speaks again, "Both Protestants and Roman Catholics are invited to the region Caelus."
22-03-2004, 00:47
A prophet of the Lord bumps into this thread.
1 Infinite Loop
22-03-2004, 00:52
LATIN WORDS IN ENGLISH
Deus Pater - God the Father
Deus Filius - God the Son (Jesus Christ)
Deus Spiritus Sanctus - God the Holy Spirit

Caelus - Heaven
Salve - Hello

Invito tu ad Caelum - I invite you to heaven.

I post this for my Friend, the founder of Italy.

Deus ex Fiat - Gods small Italian Car. (Fiat 500)
22-03-2004, 01:02
This is the loyal recruitment post I am putting in the Pacifics!

Are you Christian? Move to Caelus! Telegram Deus Pater, Deus Filius, or Deus Spiritus Sanctus to see if you qualify. The people running that region speak English and Latin. For more information, visit Caelus or go to:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=133245

We now have a website:

http://s6.invisionfree.com/Caelus/

Immigration is now twice as easy with our forums!
23-03-2004, 02:41
Caelus est terra parva.
Translation: Heaven is a small region.
23-03-2004, 23:37
Visit the new Caelus boards (http://s6.invisionfree.com/Caelus/).
Deus ex Fiat
24-03-2004, 10:58
"Dominance Possum Pox Probiscus"

I am the one true Italian Car of God.
Amaranthine Asphodel
25-03-2004, 14:08
There is one universal church. A lower case term "catholic" doesn't refer to "Roman Catholic," but to the Church in general. I myself think that both Roman Catholics and Protestants are saved as long as they believe in the basic Christian doctrine. Obviously, it doesn't matter what specific religion you are to be 'saved'. But if you believe it is all much of a muchness, why not encourage membership in the ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC, and APOSTOLIC Church, the church with the closest kinship to Christ??
27-03-2004, 17:01
I have a question. Why is your region better than the others (like Federation of True Christians, Isle of Beleivers, Heaven, etc.)?
Amaranthine Asphodel
31-03-2004, 02:49
Obviously, because he believes he is "God the Father". Something of a megalomaniac, methinks.
Unfree People
31-03-2004, 05:10
Invito tu ad Caelum - I invite you to heaven.
Now I've only had three months total of Latin, but I'm pretty sure tu can only be a subject. The word you want for the object of this sentence is te.

And as far as salve goes, you are addressing everyone who reads this thread, are you not? So you ought to make your greeting plural: salvete!


This message is brought to you by your friendly neighborhood Latin-studying faithful atheist, and means no offense :)
31-03-2004, 05:36
There is one universal church. A lower case term "catholic" doesn't refer to "Roman Catholic," but to the Church in general. I myself think that both Roman Catholics and Protestants are saved as long as they believe in the basic Christian doctrine. Obviously, it doesn't matter what specific religion you are to be 'saved'. But if you believe it is all much of a muchness, why not encourage membership in the ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC, and APOSTOLIC Church, the church with the closest kinship to Christ??

By that you mean the Orthodox Church, right?

Please, I don't mean to be rude, but a little humility would not be out of line here. There's no need to be promoting your own branch at the expense of others.
Amaranthine Asphodel
01-04-2004, 08:57
Orthodox, or Roman Catholic. Much the same.

I don't mean to be promoting anything. It's just his peculiar brand of ecumenism got up my nose. Especially his little disclaimer about catholic not meaning Roman Catholic. I mean, if he can't expect his audience to understand the word, why use it?

And it's not meant to be at the expense of any other. I'm just wondering why, if he sees no philosophical difference between denominations, he should not encourage membership in the original Church and should not favour the Nicene Creed over the less descriptive Apostle's.
Byela Galicia
01-04-2004, 21:53
And by the "Nicene Creed," you surely don't mean the version that the Catholic Church uses, as that version contains the erroneous and infamous "filoque clause" that was added by the Pope of Rome during the Middle Ages as a display of power, with no real theological justification, and against the traditions of the early Church of:
1)The use of consensus among Church leaders to arrive at broadly-reaching, theological decisions, and
2)The principle that the Pope of Rome had no more power than any other bishop, but was "first among equals" in terms of respect and prestige.

And no, the Orthodox Church is not the same as the Catholic Church, and in fact is today much less similar than it used to be, due to the actions of the Vatican II and the various Papal decrees that have come out over the years establishing such phenomena as Purgatory.