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I am posting this to ask which Pacific is best in yor view, i do not want to move to the RR or Lazurus, just the pacifics. I was thinking The Pacific but i'm not sure about the North or South. But i don't think the West does much at all and the East is good as well.

So your views people? :)

Well, I live in the NP and it's great. The SP's pretty cool, and the Pacific's full of tyrants...

The West does stuff, just not much. They're somewhat democratic, they have an elaborate and extensive delegate election policy and are in the process of creating a constitution. The East seems to be the most boring (sorry, loop, but it's true, your forums have maybe one or two new posts a day and it's obvious no one else will ever be considered for delegacy), whereas the North is friendly to newbies and interesting, if not fascinating, to be a part of. The South seem to be the most democratic in their workings, they just finished elections for various secretaries of the regions, and the delegate position is not as tightly closed as in other regions. The Pacific is, well, it's my favorite feeder (read: it's home), but no one's ever accused it of being very democratic or very friendly.

If you really want to decide, check out their respective off site forums, that's where the feeders speak most loudly.

Whereever you go, do not go to the South Pacific, the current delegate there is terrible. I would instead suggest going to the West Pacific, is rather nice there :)

How about explaining why you dislike her, instead of simply posting this slander?

Whereever you go, do not go to the South Pacific, the current delegate there is terrible. I would instead suggest going to the West Pacific, is rather nice there :)

Well First off, Dont slander, especially considering your slander makes you look jsut as bad
LR is a good person.


The East is the best, I cannot help if our fourms are dead.
I try.
but nothing happens, probably comes from our being the smallest pacific.
No worries though we are Part of [TA].

Whereever you go, do not go to the South Pacific, the current delegate there is terrible. I would instead suggest going to the West Pacific, is rather nice there :)

The LR I know is a wonderful person, so you must be mistaken

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East Pacific, it holds more of my puppets that have yet to move out of the pacifics then any other. Which is odd since it has the lowest population :|

Whereever you go, do not go to the South Pacific, the current delegate there is terrible. I would instead suggest going to the West Pacific, is rather nice there :)

I would have to agree with Chapeliis statement. I find the flag of the LadyRebels offensive, as it is symbolic of racism and oppression. Nur does not buy the "heritage not hate" excuse, nor that it symbolizes being a "rebel." After all, if someone said you were as charasmatic as Adolf Hitler, would you proudly walk around wearing a Nazi armband?

I wouldn't recommend the West Pacific either, though. The current West Pacific regime operates under a facade of democracy. True, you can do pretty much whatever you want in there within reason, but challenge the current delegate and he forces you to obey his skewed, absurd rules that are set up to keep any real challenges quelled. If you so much as sneeze while you're running for the delegacy in the West Pacific, he ejects you for "election rules violation."

If you're looking for a truly fair and just Pacific to move to, move to the Pacific. The delegate there, Francos Spain, has very clear rules in place that keep out invaders so the nations of the Pacific can grow and prosper in peace. He also makes sure that nations with crude and offensive names, flags, or mottos are ejected, so younger players won't be corrupted by some of the more immature players of NationStates.

A newer NationStates player might hear other players speaking badly of the Pacific, but take it from a nation who lives there, those players are merely jealous of the Pacifics prosperity. The Pacific is NationStates oldest region, and by FAR the best.

The South Pacific is the coolest. You people just don't understand what the confederation meant.

Whereever you go, do not go to the South Pacific, the current delegate there is terrible. I would instead suggest going to the West Pacific, is rather nice there :)

I would have to agree with Chapeliis statement. I find the flag of the LadyRebels offensive, as it is symbolic of racism and oppression. Nur does not buy the "heritage not hate" excuse, nor that it symbolizes being a "rebel." After all, if someone said you were as charasmatic as Adolf Hitler, would you proudly walk around wearing a Nazi armband?

I wouldn't recommend the West Pacific either, though. The current West Pacific regime operates under a facade of democracy. True, you can do pretty much whatever you want in there within reason, but challenge the current delegate and he forces you to obey his skewed, absurd rules that are set up to keep any real challenges quelled. If you so much as sneeze while you're running for the delegacy in the West Pacific, he ejects you for "election rules violation."

If you're looking for a truly fair and just Pacific to move to, move to the Pacific. The delegate there, Francos Spain, has very clear rules in place that keep out invaders so the nations of the Pacific can grow and prosper in peace. He also makes sure that nations with crude and offensive names, flags, or mottos are ejected, so younger players won't be corrupted by some of the more immature players of NationStates.

A newer NationStates player might hear other players speaking badly of the Pacific, but take it from a nation who lives there, those players are merely jealous of the Pacifics prosperity. The Pacific is NationStates oldest region, and by FAR the best.



I never liked The West Pacific because i do not think Norion represents it well enough, it seems too neutral, no opinions on anything and yet it is a demorcracy.


Can anyone ask Norion to post a message telling us what the West Pacific does and about its election process? Does he ever post on the forums?


I personally like Franco, i didn't like him to start off with but now i think he is a good delegate and is thinking of moving there.

Whereever you go, do not go to the South Pacific, the current delegate there is terrible. I would instead suggest going to the West Pacific, is rather nice there :)

I would have to agree with Chapeliis statement. I find the flag of the LadyRebels offensive, as it is symbolic of racism and oppression. Nur does not buy the "heritage not hate" excuse, nor that it symbolizes being a "rebel." After all, if someone said you were as charasmatic as Adolf Hitler, would you proudly walk around wearing a Nazi armband?

I wouldn't recommend the West Pacific either, though. The current West Pacific regime operates under a facade of democracy. True, you can do pretty much whatever you want in there within reason, but challenge the current delegate and he forces you to obey his skewed, absurd rules that are set up to keep any real challenges quelled. If you so much as sneeze while you're running for the delegacy in the West Pacific, he ejects you for "election rules violation."

If you're looking for a truly fair and just Pacific to move to, move to the Pacific. The delegate there, Francos Spain, has very clear rules in place that keep out invaders so the nations of the Pacific can grow and prosper in peace. He also makes sure that nations with crude and offensive names, flags, or mottos are ejected, so younger players won't be corrupted by some of the more immature players of NationStates.

A newer NationStates player might hear other players speaking badly of the Pacific, but take it from a nation who lives there, those players are merely jealous of the Pacifics prosperity. The Pacific is NationStates oldest region, and by FAR the best.



I never liked The West Pacific because i do not think Norion represents it well enough, it seems too neutral, no opinions on anything and yet it is a demorcracy.


Can anyone ask Norion to post a message telling us what the West Pacific does and about its election process? Does he ever post on the forums?


I personally like Franco, i didn't like him to start off with but now i think he is a good delegate and is thinking of moving there.

The East Pacific is the best. Loop makes killer flags. Also it's a Team Advantage region which everyone knows is the only way to go.

Im currently in the South, I have considered Moving East, however I long to go North to visit the Tsarina, I hear she has a sick son.

this Loop person makes flags, I bet he cannot surpass my Flag.

Dancing Ra Ra Rasputin!
http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/ra_ra_rasputin.jpg
Lover of the Russian Queen!

Whereever you go, do not go to the South Pacific, the current delegate there is terrible. I would instead suggest going to the West Pacific, is rather nice there :)

I would have to agree with Chapeliis statement. I find the flag of the LadyRebels offensive, as it is symbolic of racism and oppression. Nur does not buy the "heritage not hate" excuse, nor that it symbolizes being a "rebel." After all, if someone said you were as charasmatic as Adolf Hitler, would you proudly walk around wearing a Nazi armband?

I wouldn't recommend the West Pacific either, though. The current West Pacific regime operates under a facade of democracy. True, you can do pretty much whatever you want in there within reason, but challenge the current delegate and he forces you to obey his skewed, absurd rules that are set up to keep any real challenges quelled. If you so much as sneeze while you're running for the delegacy in the West Pacific, he ejects you for "election rules violation."

If you're looking for a truly fair and just Pacific to move to, move to the Pacific. The delegate there, Francos Spain, has very clear rules in place that keep out invaders so the nations of the Pacific can grow and prosper in peace. He also makes sure that nations with crude and offensive names, flags, or mottos are ejected, so younger players won't be corrupted by some of the more immature players of NationStates.

A newer NationStates player might hear other players speaking badly of the Pacific, but take it from a nation who lives there, those players are merely jealous of the Pacifics prosperity. The Pacific is NationStates oldest region, and by FAR the best.

hmm not even a mention of my place, didn't I even make several Flags for you?

And Yes, the East Pacific is the Best region, as a Member of
[Team Advantage] we have strategically allied ourselves with the best regions and compainies so as to bring you the best products and Service beyond Compare,

Join now and recieve Double Points with all purchases at [TA] allied stores and regions, for a limited time.

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Loop East Pacific, Delegate
Proud Member of [Team Advantage]
My current flag
http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/1_infinite_loop.jpg

The Pacific really is in bad shape. Why? Because it has been perpetually mismanaged. Thedoc, the Delegate earlier last year, was outgoing and charismatic but gullible and unwilling to defend his position. Francos Spain, on the other hand, has refined defending his position to an art form while deliberately alienating practically everyone in the game outside of his own circle.

The best Pacific? I'd have to say the South. LadyRebels is a perfect balance between the two extremes of governance, both friendly and willing to defend her region from more extreme acts of aggression.

The Rejected Realms isn't really a Pacific, or at least is very different from the others. Our lack of ejection leads to a completely different political atmosphere. When tyranny is impossible, aggression is pretty tough as well. That's why our government is so extroverted.

I really do resent your portrayal of the Pacific as merely a political stronghold, Kandarin, as we radiate a greater culture than any other mega-region as well a greater level of civility. I would like to continue this conversation with you, but in a different thread.

If it helps, let's try to look at this decision objectively by comparing regional forums of the Pacific regions.

The North Pacific (http://s2.invisionfree.com/The_North_Pacific/index.php?)
The West Pacific (http://invisionfree.com/forums/The_West_Pacific/)
The South Pacific (http://invisionfree.com/forums/theSPacific/index.php)
The East Pacific (http://invisionfree.com/forums/The_East_Pacific/index.php)
The Pacific (http://newpacificorder.proboards19.com/index.cgi)

As you can see, the first four Pacifics listed use a very generic and bland InvisionFree forum. Several of them also have a plethora of boards, many of which have few if any threads in them. The Pacific forum, by contrast, is unique in its appearence, specifically customized, aesthetically pleasing, and is arranged and organized very simply and efficiently. If you wish to join the region as place to get involved in and take part in regional goings on, then I think our forum would do our case well. If you are looking simply for a spot to hang out peacefully, then I believe the level civility, the relative lack of spam, the etiquitte, and the intellectual content of the posts of nations engaged in conversation on the Civil Headquarters would make our region the more desirable Pacific. Uh, anyway, this started as a defense of the Pacific but has quickly turned into me trumpeting my own horn, so I'll leave it at that.

*yawn*

Nice try Franco

I say South Pacific, though you really can't go wrong unless you go with "THE" Pacific

Whereever you go, do not go to the South Pacific, the current delegate there is terrible. I would instead suggest going to the West Pacific, is rather nice there :)

I would have to agree with Chapeliis statement. I find the flag of the LadyRebels offensive, as it is symbolic of racism and oppression. Nur does not buy the "heritage not hate" excuse, nor that it symbolizes being a "rebel." After all, if someone said you were as charasmatic as Adolf Hitler, would you proudly walk around wearing a Nazi armband?

I wouldn't recommend the West Pacific either, though. The current West Pacific regime operates under a facade of democracy. True, you can do pretty much whatever you want in there within reason, but challenge the current delegate and he forces you to obey his skewed, absurd rules that are set up to keep any real challenges quelled. If you so much as sneeze while you're running for the delegacy in the West Pacific, he ejects you for "election rules violation."

If you're looking for a truly fair and just Pacific to move to, move to the Pacific. The delegate there, Francos Spain, has very clear rules in place that keep out invaders so the nations of the Pacific can grow and prosper in peace. He also makes sure that nations with crude and offensive names, flags, or mottos are ejected, so younger players won't be corrupted by some of the more immature players of NationStates.

A newer NationStates player might hear other players speaking badly of the Pacific, but take it from a nation who lives there, those players are merely jealous of the Pacifics prosperity. The Pacific is NationStates oldest region, and by FAR the best.

hmm not even a mention of my place, didn't I even make several Flags for you?

And Yes, the East Pacific is the Best region, as a Member of
[Team Advantage] we have strategically allied ourselves with the best regions and compainies so as to bring you the best products and Service beyond Compare,

Join now and recieve Double Points with all purchases at [TA] allied stores and regions, for a limited time.

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Loop East Pacific, Delegate
Proud Member of [Team Advantage]
My current flag
http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/1_infinite_loop.jpg

A thousand apologies, Loop. Nur failed to mention the East Pacific because Nur is unfamiliar with the East Pacific government.

Yes, you have made Nur a few flags, and Nur loved them all. Thank you kindly, My child......

I really do resent your portrayal of the Pacific as merely a political stronghold, Kandarin, as we radiate a greater culture than any other mega-region as well a greater level of civility. I would like to continue this conversation with you, but in a different thread.

If it helps, let's try to look at this decision objectively by comparing regional forums of the Pacific regions.

The North Pacific (http://s2.invisionfree.com/The_North_Pacific/index.php?)
The West Pacific (http://invisionfree.com/forums/The_West_Pacific/)
The South Pacific (http://invisionfree.com/forums/theSPacific/index.php)
The East Pacific (http://invisionfree.com/forums/The_East_Pacific/index.php)
The Pacific (http://newpacificorder.proboards19.com/index.cgi)

As you can see, the first four Pacifics listed use a very generic and bland InvisionFree forum. Several of them also have a plethora of boards, many of which have few if any threads in them. The Pacific forum, by contrast, is unique in its appearence, specifically customized, aesthetically pleasing, and is arranged and organized very simply and efficiently. If you wish to join the region as place to get involved in and take part in regional goings on, then I think our forum would do our case well. If you are looking simply for a spot to hang out peacefully, then I believe the level civility, the relative lack of spam, the etiquitte, and the intellectual content of the posts of nations engaged in conversation on the Civil Headquarters would make our region the more desirable Pacific. Uh, anyway, this started as a defense of the Pacific but has quickly turned into me trumpeting my own horn, so I'll leave it at that.

Dude that is like saying you are better because your VW bug has a fiberglass Ferrari body on it.




A thousand apologies, Loop. Nur failed to mention the East Pacific because Nur is unfamiliar with the East Pacific government.

Yes, you have made Nur a few flags, and Nur loved them all. Thank you kindly, My child......

thou art Forgiven.

Dude that is like saying you are better because your VW bug has a fiberglass Ferrari body on it.

Heh, no, I'm not so superficial. I didn't mean that our forum was simply better because "it's prettier," but rather that it is really the only one with any character, which I do feel is relevent. I also pointed out what I believe to be mechanical advantages of the Pacific forum.

Well, at least the South Pacific recently made a few changes to their forums, they're slightly more unique now. And I already brought up the fact that I do not like your forums, loop, because they're so dead - while I may not agree that Franco's forums are friendly to new nations, they're at least a heck of a lot more interesting and engaging.

I do like the Pacific forums, but I have a personal thing against invisionfree forums... they won't keep my cookies and I have to re-log in every time I want to visit any.

Nur hereby decrees that the Pacific has, far and away, the best forum of all the Pacifics. Not only is it better looking than the other Pacific forums, but it also much more straightforward and much less filled with pointless posts as the others.

Of course, the good nations of the Pacific have Emperor Franco and Grand Viceroy Poskrebyshev to thank for their outstanding forum.

Nur has truly blessed them both with leadership skills far superior to any other delegate anywhere in NationStates.

Nur blesses you all.

El Sabah Nur
Christ Incarnate
Former Delegate of The Pacific

I would say the Pacific as that i the region in whcih I joined NS all that time ago.

What I find most enjoyable about the Pacific, is that its off site boards are extraordinarily tolerant of our enemies as long as they treat us with respect....

That's a remarkable level of civility.

So we seemed to have established who has the best forum but who has the best free speech (within reason a.k.a Not spam by n00bs)

So we seemed to have established who has the best forum but who has the best free speech (within reason a.k.a Not spam by n00bs)

Actually, the policy of tolerating but nevertheless disagreeing with opposition members is practiced in all five Pacifics.

So we seemed to have established who has the best forum but who has the best free speech (within reason a.k.a Not spam by n00bs)

Well, Look at some of the stuff I have in teh EP forum, I even have complaints and accusations about me pinned,

although I dont tolerate people who come in with the sole intent of angering me.
I think the only post ever deleted was a Advertisment some person posted for their region.

We are in the South Pacific and have liked it so far. However, we are still quite new to NationStates and have not even left Our originally assigned region.

Indigo
Master of the Indigo Islands

Does Norion post on he forums?

Does Norion post on he forums?

Yes, but the West Pacific forum is pretty much just him and his sycophants.

Oh, but were you asking if he posts on the NationStates forums? I've never seen him post on these forums. The whole West Pacific is isolationist.

i do not want to move to the RR or Lazurus
Drat, I was going to say "Lazarus"

THen I'd say ither the north, as it is my natie Pacifi and makes me think "The Pacific Northwest", or the East, beacause Loopie is delegate there.

If you hadn't already ruled out the RR, then The Pacific would have been an option. :twisted:

Does Norion post on he forums?

Yes, but the West Pacific forum is pretty much just him and his sycophants.

Oh, but were you asking if he posts on the NationStates forums? I've never seen him post on these forums. The whole West Pacific is isolationist.


Bit of a waste isn't it... :( , i started in the East Pacific i just remembered and for a while i didn't know there was a Pacific, which was then ruled by The Savage Lands i think?

Does Norion post on he forums?

Yes, but the West Pacific forum is pretty much just him and his sycophants.

Oh, but were you asking if he posts on the NationStates forums? I've never seen him post on these forums. The whole West Pacific is isolationist.


Bit of a waste isn't it... :( , i started in the East Pacific i just remembered and for a while i didn't know there was a Pacific, which was then ruled by The Savage Lands i think?

Yes, my child, The Savage Lands once ruled over the Pacific. He was a very fine delegate. I hear he was quite popular with the ladies as well. He is missed very much......

Yes, my child, The Savage Lands once ruled over the Pacific. He was a very fine delegate. I hear he was quite popular with the ladies as well. He is missed very much......



Wait,

*looks really confused :? *

I thought El Sabuh Nur and the Savage Lands wre the same person!!!

So was The Savage Lands delegate before Thedoc and the first real delegate of the Pacific?

I reside in the great region of the North Pacific. I have found it a very beautiful and wonderful place. Our forum is very busy and contains many of the latest issues, historia, diplomatic interactions and entertainment. As with any feeder Region you will encounter a noob occasionally, but we in the NP work hard to educate all who choose to enter our region/forums. We have many of other regions that participate frequently in exchange and debate of information. Our Leader "TWO" is dedicated and listens to what we have to say. He is responsive to questions and supports the efforts of all. When issues arise it is the whole of all that participate and the hope of betterment that lead us to making decisions. We do not have just one or a few that make all the decisions in small or large situations. All that want to be heard are heard. We have a wonderful board of tourism, sporting events, and a wonderful OOC and RP that are very active in our region and forum.

LOL Matthuis, is he ever doing a good job of confusing you.

Yes, The Savage Lands = El Sabah Nur (and other variants thereof), don't let his sudden compulsion to speak in third person confuse you.

He was the delegate of the Pacific for a short while when the then-current delegate, Thedoc, went inactive. Thedoc came back, however, and ruled until he allowed a certain infamous endorsement trading nation into his region - Francos Spain. The rest, I trust, is history.

LOL Matthuis, is he ever doing a good job of confusing you.

Yes, The Savage Lands = El Sabah Nur (and other variants thereof), don't let his sudden compulsion to speak in third person confuse you.

He was the delegate of the Pacific for a short while when the then-current delegate, Thedoc, went inactive. Thedoc came back, however, and ruled until he allowed a certain infamous endorsement trading nation into his region - Francos Spain. The rest, I trust, is history.


*Wipes Head*

Okay that was confusing :) and i think the North is okay but i don't understand this Nastic 2 business, i mean why did he leave anyway?

Then Treenudity left, i got a puppet where Treenudity resides Trees Abound


Then came Twoslit, then Nastic came back and then Wilkshire was supposed to be the new delegate but didn't get enough endorsements,

Then i look on the North forums and i see Twoslit calling Nastic the rightful delegate, so could someone clear this up for me?

Don't ask me about the North, I know nothing about them except they seem to be fond of changing delegates often - what I can say, though, is twoslit is an excellent, excellent delegate and the North Pacific is a very friendly place.

OK, in the interst of either un-confusing you, totally losing you, or entertaining anyone who reads this, to the best of my memory, this is what happened in the Pacific. We went through some pretty bad delegates when I first joined NS, who banned indiscriminately and did nothing to improve the region overly much. Then, mid-summer 2003, we got a delegate who did a lot to increase activity and democracy in the region (I don't remember his name, he's since ceased to be), and the Pacific was a better place. After that, Thedoc came in and set up forums and it was good. Savage came in the middle of his delegacy, when Thedoc was inactive for a long time, but Savage gave up delegacy when Thedoc returned. So all went well, until Francos Spain sneaked into the delegacy, and all hell broke lose.

Now, I don't like/support Francos or anything, but the Pacific really is, in my mind, the best feeder region. It's certainly the most interesting, anyway.

when my first nation was created in the pacific, sudeten was delegate, and after him came infernoice, both were very much disliked (to put it nicely ;) )

after infernoice came olongapo, he organised elections, in which thedoc was elected.

Yeah, them. I didn't remember the names because I wasn't overly active then, but I remember hazily disliking the first delegates I had experience with.

Don't ask me about the North, I know nothing about them except they seem to be fond of changing delegates often - what I can say, though, is twoslit is an excellent, excellent delegate and the North Pacific is a very friendly place.

OK, in the interst of either un-confusing you, totally losing you, or entertaining anyone who reads this, to the best of my memory, this is what happened in the Pacific. We went through some pretty bad delegates when I first joined NS, who banned indiscriminately and did nothing to improve the region overly much. Then, mid-summer 2003, we got a delegate who did a lot to increase activity and democracy in the region (I don't remember his name, he's since ceased to be), and the Pacific was a better place. After that, Thedoc came in and set up forums and it was good. Savage came in the middle of his delegacy, when Thedoc was inactive for a long time, but Savage gave up delegacy when Thedoc returned. So all went well, until Francos Spain sneaked into the delegacy, and all hell broke lose.

Now, I don't like/support Francos or anything, but the Pacific really is, in my mind, the best feeder region. It's certainly the most interesting, anyway.

29 minutes ago: The Theocracy of The Messenger of Nur departed this region for The Rejected Realms
29 minutes ago: The Theoretical Probability of The twoslit experiment ejected The Theocracy of The Messenger of Nur from the region.

Well, it looks like The twoslit experiment doesn't tolerate any dissent in the North Pacific.

He also posted a rather personal insult directed at me:

"29 minutes ago The Theoretical Probability of The twoslit experiment MOUTH of el sabah nur(who claims to be the incarnation of Christ):
Please desist from spamming these boards and the telegram boxes of members of this region. The members of this region are aware of the ejections of those two (which happened two weeks ago, and was discussed for up to two months before hand.) We are also aware of your efforts to spam and libel in both The South Pacific and The West Pacific. We are also aware that you deliberately deceived members of your own regions. A deliberate deception is called a lie, and that makes you a liar. Publishing a deliberately deceptive accusation is the definition of LIBEL. Others have started discussion of bringing legal action against you in a court of law in the United States. I recommend you CEASE AND DESIST from speaking altogether since you are no longer capable of speaking in a civilized manner. Apparently you have deceived yourself to such an extent that you are believing your own lies. I personally do not understand how anyone would marry you. In fact, I have no reason to believe that you are being honest about getting married.
perhaps someone can tell you that YOU AND YOUR MANY PUPPETS ARE NOT WELCOME HERE."

The actions of "an excellent, excellent delegate?" Not in my opinion....

29 minutes ago: The Theoretical Probability of The twoslit experiment ejected The Theocracy of The Messenger of Nur from the region.

Hmm, I wonder why that might be? Maybe because you've been sending out telegrams to all UN members in the region, asking them to unendorse Two? They might not be exactly slanderous, but I don't think anyone familiar with your behaviour in both the South and West Pacific have any problems discerning your motives.

Posts from the Civil Headquarter:
The twoslit experiment

The following was posted in the GETTING HELP section of FAQ:

It seems that The Savage Lands is engaged in spamming and libel. I vote in favor of him being banned from the game. The matter is being discussed in our forums here: http://s2.invisionfree.com/The_North_Pacif...php?showforum=1
(mainly)

The following is on The North Pacific Civil HQ:

The Theocracy of The Messenger of Nur Good citizens and fellow North Pacific nations, I've come bearing a message from El Sabah Nur, Christ Incarnate. It reads:

Nations of the North Pacific. It has come to My attention that your UN delegate, The twoslit experiment, has come under the practice of ejecting political opponents. He recently ejected two nations, Nootroughsis and Domocolees, merely because they challenged him for the delegates seat.

These nations did no wrong! Is it a crime to want to participate in your government?? Or perhaps The twoslit experiment will only let his tight-knit group of cohorts challenge him for the North Pacific delegacy?

For all his speaking out and preaching against Francos Spains rule in the Pacific, The twoslit experiment conducts himself in exactly the same manner. These are the actions of a tyrannical hypocrite.

Just because you call a form of government a democracy does not make it so! In a truly democratic government, ANY nation would be able to freely rise to the delegacy. The current regime in the North Pacific is NOT a democracy. The twoslit experiment sits on the delegates seat like a king on his throne, brutally executing any ambitious nation that dares challenges his authority!

Nations of the North Pacific, rise up!! Overthrow your tyrannical dictator! Free the North Pacific!

El Sabah Nur
Christ Incarnate
Former Delegate of The Pacific


I apologize for the long-winded message.

Magicality:
Thank you Two very informative and not long winded at all!

Keep up the good work!

The Messenger of Nur:
Sending out political telegrams has been ruled legal. After all, how many telegrams must Francos Spains endorsers recieve, yet NOBODY has been banned from the game for it?

Also, you actually have to be LYING for it to be libel, twoslit. Nice try, though....

Nem:
Read the posts in our Fourm on this topic

http://s2.invisionfree.com/The_North_Pacif...p?showtopic=413

If you want to know the truth rather than the propaganda. As I stated earlier, Twoslit has my full and unwavering support.

Ananke:
I'm just amazed that Savage is using a recognizable puppet this time, after all the mess he made in both the West and South Pacific.

Oh, and I fully support Two. As far as I know he's only ever ejected two people for endorsement trading and that was because they were going for the delegacy without making their intentions known. As long as you're active, there's nothing to stop you from trading endorsements.

The twoslit experiment:
MOUTH of el sabah nur(who claims to be the incarnation of Christ):
Please desist from spamming these boards and the telegram boxes of members of this region. The members of this region are aware of the ejections of those two (which happened two weeks ago, and was discussed for up to two months before hand.) We are also aware of your efforts to spam and libel in both The South Pacific and The West Pacific. We are also aware that you deliberately deceived members of your own regions. A deliberate deception is called a lie, and that makes you a liar. Publishing a deliberately deceptive accusation is the definition of LIBEL. Others have started discussion of bringing legal action against you in a court of law in the United States. I recommend you CEASE AND DESIST from speaking altogether since you are no longer capable of speaking in a civilized manner. Apparently you have deceived yourself to such an extent that you are believing your own lies. I personally do not understand how anyone would marry you. In fact, I have no reason to believe that you are being honest about getting married.
perhaps someone can tell you that YOU AND YOUR MANY PUPPETS ARE NOT WELCOME HERE.

Anyone interested in knowing more can go to this topic in the North Pacific forums; http://s2.invisionfree.com/The_North_Pacific/index.php?showtopic=413&st=0&#last

Leading a fight against Francos Spain and calling him a dictator and tyrannical, while at the same time ejecting anyone who voices dissent against your delegacy and ejecting political opponents makes you a hypocrite. Does anyone disagree?

Leading a fight against Francos Spain and calling him a dictator and tyrannical, while at the same time ejecting anyone who voices dissent against your delegacy and ejecting political opponents makes you a hypocrite. Does anyone disagree?

Um Dude, he is perfectly allowed to do that.
So, I have to disagree.

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Loop East Pacific, Delegate
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Leading a fight against Francos Spain and calling him a dictator and tyrannical, while at the same time ejecting anyone who voices dissent against your delegacy and ejecting political opponents makes you a hypocrite. Does anyone disagree?

Um Dude, he is perfectly allowed to do that.
So, I have to disagree.

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Loop East Pacific, Delegate
Proud Member of [Team Advantage]
My current flag
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Erm, ok, so blasting a nation for acting in a certain manner while acting the same exact way isn't hypocritical??

Without Hipocrisy, Politics would Be a VERY boring game.

Yeah in Ns you need to argue invade spy have polics or the game will just be all chat

Without Hipocrisy, Politics would Be a VERY boring game.

I can't disagree with you there, Loop, but you see, The twoslit experiment has reported me to the moderators because I sent his endorsers telegrams of a political nature. Now unless I'm mistaken, politics IS NationStates. Without it, there would be no game. Of course this is my opinion, others may disagree. I happen to enjoy the political aspect of the game.

The twoslit experiment seems to think that my telegrams are some kind of personal attack, but how could they be? I don't even know the man or woman behind the nation. My telegrams are in reference to The twoslit experiment, not the person behind it.

Leading a fight against Francos Spain and calling him a dictator and tyrannical, while at the same time ejecting anyone who voices dissent against your delegacy and ejecting political opponents makes you a hypocrite. Does anyone disagree?

I have found MOUTH... (AKA The Savage Lands, who was deleted for flaming) to misrepresent the truth by careful wording.

Many of the members of The South Pacific and The West Pacific have been exposed to his brand of MISREPRESENTATION OF TRUTH (aka LIBEL)

Every nation which I have ejected, and many which I have not ejected has a topic dedicated to that nation in our forums. This is the topic dedicated to The Savage Lands: http://s2.invisionfree.com/The_North_Pacific/index.php?showtopic=424

THE LIBELOUS STATEMENT:
"He recently ejected two nations, Nootroughsis and Domocolees, merely because they challenged him for the delegates seat." (sic)

The part that is libelous is: "...merely because they challenged him for the delegates seat." (sic)

The reason for ejecting these two is that they practiced deception and were consequently untrustworthy. This is clearly and elaborately explained in the dedicated topic mentioned (membership is not required to read posts in The North Pacific Forums.)

Some more recent LIBEL:

"Well, it looks like The twoslit experiment doesn't tolerate any dissent in the North Pacific."

You were ejected for LIBEL, and not for dissent. I have never ejected anyone for dissent.

Your remark is inaccurate, unsubstantiated, and deliberately meant to defame The twoslit experiment, and I own this name. Therefore, you have committed LIBEL.

Since there are players in this game who know my identity, therefore you will reasonably expect court action against you.

I strongly suggest that you CEASE AND DESIST from further discussion along these lines.
(I strongly suggest that you leave this game.)
You have earned the hatred of many players, but that is beside the point

Leading a fight against Francos Spain and calling him a dictator and tyrannical, while at the same time ejecting anyone who voices dissent against your delegacy and ejecting political opponents makes you a hypocrite. Does anyone disagree?

I have found MOUTH... (AKA The Savage Lands, who was deleted for flaming) to misrepresent the truth by careful wording.

Many of the members of The South Pacific and The West Pacific have been exposed to his brand of MISREPRESENTATION OF TRUTH (aka LIBEL)

Every nation which I have ejected, and many which I have not ejected has a topic dedicated to that nation in our forums. This is the topic dedicated to The Savage Lands: http://s2.invisionfree.com/The_North_Pacific/index.php?showtopic=424

THE LIBELOUS STATEMENT:
"He recently ejected two nations, Nootroughsis and Domocolees, merely because they challenged him for the delegates seat." (sic)

The part that is libelous is: "...merely because they challenged him for the delegates seat." (sic)

The reason for ejecting these two is that they practiced deception and were consequently untrustworthy. This is clearly and elaborately explained in the dedicated topic mentioned (membership is not required to read posts in The North Pacific Forums.)

Some more recent LIBEL:

"Well, it looks like The twoslit experiment doesn't tolerate any dissent in the North Pacific."

You were ejected for LIBEL, and not for dissent. I have never ejected anyone for dissent.

Your remark is inaccurate, unsubstantiated, and deliberately meant to defame The twoslit experiment, and I own this name. Therefore, you have committed LIBEL.

Since there are players in this game who know my identity, therefore you will reasonably expect court action against you.

I strongly suggest that you CEASE AND DESIST from further discussion along these lines.
(I strongly suggest that you leave this game.)
You have earned the hatred of many players, but that is beside the point

Twoslit, do you HONESTLY think there will be court action taken against me? I mean really man, this is a GAME. People write horrible things about the President of The United States all the time, and you don't see them getting in any trouble....

Seems a tad extreme Twoslit actually :wink:

when my first nation was created in the pacific, sudeten was delegate, and after him came infernoice, both were very much disliked (to put it nicely ;) )

after infernoice came olongapo, he organised elections, in which thedoc was elected.

Isn't InfernoIce part of the NPO?

I've never spent too much time in the Pacifics...I created my region within an hour of Goobergunchia's creation.

Savage, twoslit, stop hijacking this thread! You already have a thread in moderation in which to whine at each other. This has deteriorated into more of a flamefest than a discussion on the relative merits of each feeder.

Goober: yes, he is. He held the delegacy for Francos in September when Francos was 'accidentally' deleted. Doesn't seem to do much these days, though.

yes, but old frosty was also delegate after sudeten, and before olongapo and thedoc.

One thing i didn't get about "Frosty" was that he was called "The Immortal Armed Rupublic" before you could change your name if you were over 500 mill.

Ws it a bug or something else?

Some people found ways to change your pre-title by fooling around with the html. I have no idea how that worked, though.

One thing i didn't get about "Frosty" was that he was called "The Immortal Armed Rupublic" before you could change your name if you were over 500 mill.

Ws it a bug or something else?

A long time ago, there was a bug in which you could change your pretitle.

Interesting question.

I've had most interaction with Norion, LadyRebels, and Twoslit, but have run into Loop a few times as well. I've enjoyed speaking with them very much, and call Twoslit and LadyRebels in particular "friend." I'm not a Francos fan, and haven't been for some time. Too many nations came to my region upset about his unjust treatment.

Although I haven't been around the government structures of the others much, I'm familiar with the forums and democratic-ish processes of the North Pacific, so at this point they'd have my vote. They've always been welcoming when my protectorates visit, as well. :wink:

Well Im checking out the Pacifics, so far Ihave been in the SP, the EP, and now Im in the NP, So far they all seem pretty much the same, except for the nice greetings by the Delegate and a few active persons they all seem the same.

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/ra_ra_rasputin.jpg
Ra Ra Rasputin!
Lover of the Russian Queen!

What is Norion like then?

And where do you find a dancing Rasputin? :)

I made it, I intended to add color so it looked like he was in a club.
I decided against it, maby I will redo it.

The East Pacfic is the most wise and noble of the Pacifics, partly because of my prescence there.

The East Pacfic is the most wise and noble of the Pacifics, partly because of my prescence there.


So modest :wink:

The East Pacfic is the most wise and noble of the Pacifics, partly because of my prescence there.


So modest :wink:

I have created a new region in the Pacific encompassing the Society Islands. Good weather. Hopefully, some intelligent threads, some humor. Just me so far, the great and wonderful Marduk.

The East Pacfic is the most wise and noble of the Pacifics, partly because of my prescence there.


You spelt prescence wrong you spell it presence, :lol: