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The Solarian Army :-?

Qaaolchoura
19-01-2004, 19:01
Does anybody have the slighest clue what the purpose of the Solarian Army is, what it's history is, how it is organized, how they manage to gain members when not one of my nations or regions has ever suffered the scourge of their recruitment, and how it manages to be so large and yet unambigous?

I recall when I first stumbled across one of their region, I saw all of the similar named, UN categorized, and sized UN nations, and quite convinced that I had discovered a large nest of multis. I have since seen several references to it, and can not figure out what on Earth it's purpose is.

It has several large armies of UN members, which I have never seen used, supposed to protect a region called "Solarian Prime", which does not exist, manages to get these armies together rather quickly, and manages to remain unobtrusive despite what seems to me form what I have seen, immense power.

Perhaps somebody more expert on regional affairs could fill me in on:


Its history
Its organization
A complete list of its regions
Its purpose
Its swiftness at finding new members
How and why it manages to be unambigous


Peace, Truth, and Justice,
A Bemmuddled Qaaolchoura
Qaaolchoura
19-01-2004, 20:02
Nevermind about the regional list.

I found all of the regions, and it is not nearly as impressive as it seems from looking at it. There are three regions who could accomplish something on thir own, and two more with some value.
[code:1:803cd29340]
Solarian Army Camp Alpha---------------16
Solarian Army Camp Bravo--------------22
Solarian Army Camp Charlie-------------9
Solarian Army Camp Delta---------------20
Solarian army camp echo-----------------1
Solarian Army Camp Foxtrot--------------1
Solarian Army Camp Golf-----------------8
Solarian Army Camp Hotel----------------4
Solarian Army Camp India----------------1
Solarian Army Camp Juliet----------------1
Solarian Special Operations HQ-----------2[/code:1:803cd29340]

What is going on with them though?

Edit: Huh, there are alsoa pair of Anti Solarian Army Camps based on the Robert Jordan books. Anti Solarian Army Camp Warder 6 Anti Solarian Camp Brigade 4 Anti Solarius 16

Now I am really confused. :?
Unfree People
19-01-2004, 23:47
One of my puppets got a telegram once asking them to join Anti-Solaris. I deleted it long ago, though, along with all the other recruitment spam.
Qaaolchoura
20-01-2004, 00:00
One of my puppets got a telegram once asking them to join Anti-Solaris. I deleted it long ago, though, along with all the other recruitment spam.
I wonder about the Solarian Army itself though.

What, when, how, and why? :?
Arnarchotopia
20-01-2004, 01:13
Mod report?
Qaaolchoura
20-01-2004, 03:50
Mod report?
I'm not sure if you are asking what a Mod Report is, why I sent the first one, or if I am askig for a mod report.

A Mod Report is when you send a Getting Help page report to the mods to have them look into something.

I sent the first one because I saw a bunch of similar nations in the delta camp, and having followed one from what seemed to be very clearly a nest of multis, I assumed that I'd found yet another one (since they are still there, I asume that it is in fact not).

And finally, no, I'm just veeeery curious about this group of regions.
Among other things, I wish to steal their amazing recruitment techniques. >:p
Ackbar
20-01-2004, 16:31
Sorry, I don't know nothing 'bout them. :?
Arnarchotopia
20-01-2004, 17:23
I see your point, sorry to be unclear (was a very busy work day!), yeah I meant file a mod report, see what crawls from under the stones...
Qaaolchoura
21-01-2004, 01:56
I see your point, sorry to be unclear (was a very busy work day!), yeah I meant file a mod report, see what crawls from under the stones...
You think that you it is a nest of multis?

I suppose that it could be, I recall that most of the other mod reports that I submitted back then were never actually dealt with.

One of them is headed by Kazaakthastan(sp?), so I hadn't thought that it would be, even with the first non-results. However, as Ackbar and UP both know nothing about them, it could be. I'll keep an eye on it, and track loggin times.
Colodia
21-01-2004, 12:46
Why...isn't it obvious? The purpose of the Solarian army is to look cool! I mean...Alpha camp? Bravo camp? Helllllooooo? Mondo-coolio man!

Otherwise...they're there to collect dust...
Qaaolchoura
22-01-2004, 03:08
Why...isn't it obvious? The purpose of the Solarian army is to look cool! I mean...Alpha camp? Bravo camp? Helllllooooo? Mondo-coolio man!

Otherwise...they're there to collect dust...
Thanks. I figured out by the way that almost all of their nations are 250-350 million, that they probably have no real history.

And actually, I observed Delta Camp attempting to crash another obscure region containing a founder . . .
New Florence Marie
22-01-2004, 07:01
Well. I didn't realize that Solarius had attracted the attention of the moderators. Having read the posts regarding our Region, its purpose and the purpose of the Solarian Army Camps, I would suggest that interested parties contact our UN Delegate in Solarius, The People's Republic of Soloqian. He can explain how the central region of Solarius is organized.

The Solarian Army Camps are not designed to "look cool" or "collect dust," respectfully. Solarius is a democratic region; one that encourages the role of democracy among nations and supports other democratic regions. Unfortunately, not all NationStates players agree with this peaceful philosophy.

The Army of Solarius was created to help support and defend the central Region of Solarius (which the membership refers to as "Solarius Prime" since the formation of the Army Camps.) The Army is organized as a flexible defense network comprised of several cooperative "Army Camps." Each Camp is led by a Solarian Colonel, and serves under the authority of the Senate of Solarius Prime, the UN Delegate and the General of Solarius (in that order.)

The purpose of the Camps is to provide a controlled, flexible response to threats to Solarius Prime and to allied regions. The Camp arrangment has proved to be far more effective in responding to threats or requests for assistance than a consolidated Army region. The Camp arrangement also spreads out the leadership opportunites for Solarian nations. Given that the moderators have checked, you will find very few (if any) "multis" in the Camps.

Solarius Prime and the Army Camps are known collectively as The Realm of Solarius. We believe this provides a new, innovative and refreshing model for regions within NationStates. There is nothing underhanded about our design and certainly no alterior motive to the arrangment we selected.

To answer your question about recruitment, Solarius makes it a point NOT to recruit from existing regions; that is a sure fire way to provoke a hostile response from developing regions. That is the reason most of you have never heard of our Region before now. We have grown both Solarius (Prime) and the Camps nation by nation, and do not plan on imposing on any other Region during our growth.

Finally, to address the reference to the "crash" by Camp Delta, the operation you observed was a response to a request for assistance by the region that the troops entered. Solarius is an anti-crashing, defensive region; this assertion can be confirmed by the Delegates of Greater Darwen, Green Earth, Entmoot, Chapter X, China and Germany.

The same cannot be said for our self-declared enemy, Anti Solarius (and their cohort Camps and the regions of Anti Anti Anti Solarius and Doziz. Those are the actual names; I couldn't make this up.)

I trust that answers most of your questions. Please contact Delegate Soloqian in Solarius for further information on our growing Realm.

BTW: Can I get back in the UN now? LOL.
Colodia
22-01-2004, 07:55
there goes NFM....with his/her loooong posting that I never really did understand :?
New Florence Marie
22-01-2004, 10:19
You actually have to READ it to understand, Colodia. Unless, of course, the above posts were simply RHETORICAL in nature.

Somehow, that was not the impression that I had in reading Qaaolchoura's questions (and the replies thereto.)

Short enough for you? And I am a MALE, BTW.
22-01-2004, 15:59
Does anybody have the slighest clue what the purpose of the Solarian Army is, what it's history is, how it is organized, how they manage to gain members when not one of my nations or regions has ever suffered the scourge of their recruitment, and how it manages to be so large and yet unambigous?


You have Nations AND Regions? Plural?

Is there something you'd like to admit to, Qaaolchoura?
Shee City
22-01-2004, 22:54
Does anybody have the slighest clue what the purpose of the Solarian Army is
I'd just assumed it was a collection of RP regions...

SC
Qaaolchoura
23-01-2004, 01:50
Well. I didn't realize that Solarius had attracted the attention of the moderators.

<snip>

Please contact Delegate Soloqian in Solarius for further information on our growing Realm.

BTW: Can I get back in the UN now? LOL.
Wasn't that clear that they were aware of it by virtue of The Dark Faction's deletion? Aside from that they don't seem to be paying any more attention to it than most regions. :?

Thanks. That explains a lot.

And thanks again, when I get around to it, I still have a few more points that I am unclear on.

You may wish to ask this in the Moderation forum. Although the mods seem to be omnipresent, and omniscient, it's rather clear that they are not, as judged by the number of threads that get reported (and by the fact that I had several Getting Help requests lost in the imfamous mod bueracracy back in the fall :P ).
Qaaolchoura
23-01-2004, 01:56
You have Nations AND Regions? Plural?

Is there something you'd like to admit to, Qaaolchoura?
Yes. I have over 200 nations, and maybe 40 or so regions, plus puppets scattered throught several major regions.

What is there to admit to? It's not like I try to hide that, although I sometimes do try to hide which ones are mine.
Durtistan
23-01-2004, 14:56
You have Nations AND Regions? Plural?

Is there something you'd like to admit to, Qaaolchoura?
Yes. I have over 200 nations, and maybe 40 or so regions, plus puppets scattered throught several major regions.

What is there to admit to? It's not like I try to hide that, although I sometimes do try to hide which ones are mine.

Oh. Right. Any of them in the UN?


I had discovered a large nest of multis

This struck me as ironic, given your later admission that you have 200 nations and 40 regions.

I'm confused. Are you saying that you, personally, have more than one nation or that you are in command/control of some multipartite alliance which consists of 200 nations spread across 40 regions?

Because if it's you yourself with the 200 nations, isn't pointing at Solarius and saying "Oi! Multi!" rather like the pot calling the kettle black?
Unfree People
23-01-2004, 19:39
A "multi" refers to more than one UN nation controlled by the same player.

There is no limit as to how many non-UN nations the same person can have. 200 is definitely one of the largest numbers I'm aware of, but there's nothing illegal about it.

"Multi-ing," however, is highly illegal.
Qaaolchoura
23-01-2004, 22:36
Unfree already answered this for me, but I feel the urge to respond anywhen.

Oh. Right. Any of them in the UN?
Of course, Qaaolchoura has been my UN nation since I joined NS.

This struck me as ironic, given your later admission that you have 200 nations and 40 regions.
What struck you as ironic? :?

I'm confused. Are you saying that you, personally, have more than one nation or that you are in command/control of some multipartite alliance which consists of 200 nations spread across 40 regions?I have roughly 200 nations and 40 regions.

I *wish* that I commanded an alliance that large.

Because if it's you yourself with the 200 nations, isn't pointing at Solarius and saying "Oi! Multi!" rather like the pot calling the kettle black?
I said that when I first stumbled on them I submitted a Un report. Anarchotopia pointedout that another one might be in order, and until Florence Marie explained things, it did seem a little suspicious.

And, how would you say that my being a puppeteer would make me a hupocrite by reporting what at the time seemed to be multis?
03-02-2004, 03:11
Nevermind about the regional list.

I found all of the regions, and it is not nearly as impressive as it seems from looking at it. There are three regions who could accomplish something on thir own, and two more with some value.
[code:1:bcaf3771a4]
Solarian Army Camp Alpha---------------16
Solarian Army Camp Bravo--------------22
Solarian Army Camp Charlie-------------9
Solarian Army Camp Delta---------------20
Solarian army camp echo-----------------1
Solarian Army Camp Foxtrot--------------1
Solarian Army Camp Golf-----------------8
Solarian Army Camp Hotel----------------4
Solarian Army Camp India----------------1
Solarian Army Camp Juliet----------------1
Solarian Special Operations HQ-----------2[/code:1:bcaf3771a4]

What is going on with them though?

Edit: Huh, there are alsoa pair of Anti Solarian Army Camps based on the Robert Jordan books. Anti Solarian Army Camp Warder 6 Anti Solarian Camp Brigade 4 Anti Solarius 16

Now I am really confused. :?


:evil: :evil:
I am a member of the Solarian Army Camp Styx now lets get all our facts stright first before we post brash lists
New People
03-02-2004, 03:24
The purpose of this thread is to get all the facts straight.
Qaaolchoura
03-02-2004, 03:39
I am a member of the Solarian Army Camp Styx now lets get all our facts stright first before we post brash lists
Unless I am mistaken, within the two weeks since I posted that, there were seveal new Solarian ArmyCamps such as "Charon" and "Styx" created.
Patoxia
09-02-2004, 12:24
I have one question for the Solarius and Anti-Solarius nations, what exactly is the history of this conflict? I've asked people on both sides and I have yet to receive a real answer to my question. I've also had to deal with an incoherent Anti-Solarius propaganda minister who is starting to get annoying (two of them came into a region I'm in one day yelling about Solarius out of the blue).
11-02-2004, 19:38
Well the history of this conflict is: The nation of Wyzata had some arguments with Flippy1 who then made anti-solarius. Anti-solarius has been fighting with solarius ever sience. I was a former member of solarian army camp echo, infact even the Delegate. After disputes over how it was run I left the region for the idealy run anti-solarius. Sience I and leader manethran-el mandragon have been recruiting new regions into our chain of anti solarians. I hope this helps. New Florence Marie probably have many new things to add.