NationStates Jolt Archive


Cuba

New People
05-01-2004, 19:48
It seems our rather benign operation in Cuba has been put through socialist intervention. Ironically, what they are attempting to do with Cuba right now is what one of our objectives in the region were; which is to protect its sovereignity, keep invaders out, and help it establish itself. During this time the central AA military was called "AA thugs" and many other not-nice generalizations, while some teenagers got to make out with a pillow after they Protected the Revolution or whatever it was they were trying to do.

In the end the Atlantic Alliance was called capitalist pig dogs, when in fact that's not true. The Atlantic Alliance has never had an official position on Karl Marx. We are neither officially capitalist or communist. Great call on that one, guys :roll:. New developments might change that, however.

The Atlantic Alliance was able to retaliate. The Lefts Nirvana was attacked and its factbook changed. Despite crying of a "GRIEF attack" by Danitobia, it was not. It was a raid; a retaliatory strike.

Fortunately, as I did not lead the Cuba attack but instead the raid on The Lefts Nirvana, my own personal record was not tarnishedby this. As an Atlantic soldier, I'm undefeated. Heh.

We ask that in the future well-meaning communists please stay out of our affairs and attempt to find out what our true intentions are before meddling. No griefing was planning for Cuba.
Ballotonia
05-01-2004, 20:22
It seems our rather benign operation in Cuba has been put through socialist intervention. Ironically, what they are attempting to do with Cuba right now is what one of our objectives in the region were; which is to protect its sovereignity, keep invaders out, and help it establish itself.

Invaders taking over the place with the intent to keep invaders out... Something's wrong with that, IMHO.

We ask that in the future well-meaning communists please stay out of our affairs and attempt to find out what our true intentions are before meddling. No griefing was planning for Cuba.

Ah. I see. Would you honestly say so if a griefing WAS planned for a region? Do you understand that it's mightily difficult to believe you on your word if it being a griefing attack is a possibility at all?

Ballotonia
Spoffin
05-01-2004, 20:47
It seems our rather benign operation in Cuba has been put through socialist intervention. Ironically, what they are attempting to do with Cuba right now is what one of our objectives in the region were; which is to protect its sovereignity, keep invaders out, and help it establish itself.

Invaders taking over the place with the intent to keep invaders out... Something's wrong with that, IMHO.I disagree, some invading groups are far more benevolent than others.

RACAC was involved in the failed op in Cuba which is why I suspect that the best intentions were probably not being held there.
New People
05-01-2004, 22:20
It seems our rather benign operation in Cuba has been put through socialist intervention. Ironically, what they are attempting to do with Cuba right now is what one of our objectives in the region were; which is to protect its sovereignity, keep invaders out, and help it establish itself.

Invaders taking over the place with the intent to keep invaders out... Something's wrong with that, IMHO.

Except that's not what I said.

We ask that in the future well-meaning communists please stay out of our affairs and attempt to find out what our true intentions are before meddling. No griefing was planning for Cuba.

Ah. I see. Would you honestly say so if a griefing WAS planned for a region? Do you understand that it's mightily difficult to believe you on your word if it being a griefing attack is a possibility at all?

Ballotonia

Because I am an honest person I believe I would have an obligation to say if a plan was made to grief the region. HOWEVER, no griefing operation has ever or will ever be done by the Atlantic under my authority. The Atlantic follows the rules more than you've been told, thankyouverymuch. I'm sorry if I'm an outdated idealistic fool who still believes in morality and duty.

And I'm offended that you wouldn't take me at my word.
New People
05-01-2004, 22:25
It seems our rather benign operation in Cuba has been put through socialist intervention. Ironically, what they are attempting to do with Cuba right now is what one of our objectives in the region were; which is to protect its sovereignity, keep invaders out, and help it establish itself.

Invaders taking over the place with the intent to keep invaders out... Something's wrong with that, IMHO.I disagree, some invading groups are far more benevolent than others.

RACAC was involved in the failed op in Cuba which is why I suspect that the best intentions were probably not being held there.

A nation from Blue Moon did help us because we consider them friends. We also considered Mercia The Next Generation a friend too, but :coughcough:.
Tactical Grace
05-01-2004, 22:40
MTNG never intended to show the Atlantic Alliance the disprespect that it has evidently been shown by other combatants. Our involvement in Cuba was sadly made necessary by the appearance of Blue Moon nations there. From our experience, no operation, however well intentioned, can be trusted to go according to the rules and mandate when Blue Moon soldiers are involved. Also, we considered Cuba a secondary target that night, with our efforts being focused on supporting Rantchess's bid for Delegacy in France. When that mission failed, we merely redistributed the nations freed up by ejections from that region. Cuba was, for us, a target of opportunity, and another chance to undermine what appeared to be a Blue Moon effort to seize a dying region. I hope that clarifies our involvement.

Tactical Grace
UN Delegate / Minister of War / Defence Consultancy
Mercia The Next Generation (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_region/region=Mercia_The_Next_Generation)
Pope Hope
05-01-2004, 23:58
Personally, I believe New People's assertions that a griefing was not planned for Cuba.

Like MTNG, the ADN takes no responsibility for the rhetoric used in the WTE placed in Cuba. However, we were represented by three of our regions--as is to be expected when AA forces and Blue Moon reps are seen encroaching upon a free region.

The situation was brought to the attention of the ADN by a member region, whose leaders spearheaded the operation and simply asked for volunteers from our membership.

High Queen Pope Hope IV
Director of the Alliance Defense Network
Regional Delegate/Founder of Nasicournia
ADN Co-Director of Intelligence
New People
06-01-2004, 00:26
Personally, I believe New People's assertions that a griefing was not planned for Cuba.

Thank you, PopeHope. I appreciate your non-bombastic and mature tone, something that more of my enemies should learn to emulate.
Wind_waves_Water
06-01-2004, 05:19
We didnt mean to mess with the AA...But blue moon was involved so we had to jump into it and help out.
New People
07-01-2004, 06:45
You're lying, wind_waves_water. YOU wanted to mess with the AA; you said so in West Alerica.