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Seeing as there now is a slight power struggle on the horizen and seeing as the RR is a big and well known region perhaps both sides would like to debate the relative merits of them being chosen Delegate?

The following has been put to Jennivier:

::As Delegate what would you do? Why do you want the position and what do you intend to do with it?

Perhaps it may help your case if you developed a detail campaign manifesto so nations of the RR knew what you stand for and what your policies would be?

One question I'd like to see answered is: would you honour the alliances and treaties signed by Kandirin or would you terminate them? ::

This is a better place to debate given the level of exposure.

1. As you look at this forum you see what I am about. I am trying to get the people back into the region and its government. I'm tired of a supe region being inactive. Discussions have already started for my new government, and some temporary posistions are appearing. This region would converted into an absolute democracy vs a democracy with a central leadership. Things like government posistions and UN resolutions will be voted on on a regular basis. More specifics will come as things are discussed and new ideas brougt into the open.

2. No, this will suit.

3. Kandarin has neglected to post or make the region aware of its allies and enemies. I will change this. If a region is going to prosper with its allies then the people must want to be allied with them and must be made aware of the alliance. I am, however, aware of two allinaces: 1. ADN 2. ASE. Both of these will be kept but changed/altered if needed to better suit the new government.

also take a look here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=110872), A. ;)

(and welcome back ;) )

You know, back in the day, the well-meaning religious folk went to America, and the scum of the British Empire was forcibly exiled to Australia. And look who built the better society. I see The Rejected Realms as being the NS analogue of RL Australia. So Kandarin actually has my respect, for turning what was by design the most unpromising of all regions into a reasonably civil and law-abiding society. I would not like to see that destabilised, so I guess it is a case of "better the devil that you know". Maybe the RR does not play the high profile role it once did in inter-regional politics, but I am sure that new alliances can be forged without a complete change of leadership.

Tactical Grace
UN Delegate / Minister of War / Defence Consultancy
Mercia The Next Generation (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_region/region=Mercia_The_Next_Generation)

also take a look here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=110872), A. ;)

(and welcome back ;) )

I saw but this thread is an attempt to be a little more impartial!;)

Thanks good to be here, returning to full duty on monday and looking forward to it!

The current score, if you are following:

Kandarin 204
Jennivier 166

The entire region has been made aware of our one alliance (with the ADN) via the World Factbook Entry. Although the ASE has proposed an alliance, none exists at present. If such an alliance were to be confirmed (There appears to be some disagreement on the ASE's end right now), it would also be declared in the WFE.

The Rejected Realms
World Factbook Entry: Welcome to the RR, the only true ejection-free haven. We do hope you enjoy your stay, feel free to make us your home. Our Forum is at http://s2.invisionfree.com/Rejected_Realms/index.php. The region is a member of the ADN.

UN Delegate: The Republic of Kandarin.

The Rejected Realms contains 1,862 nations. [List all nations]

ASE Treaty (http://s2.invisionfree.com/Rejected_Realms/index.php?showtopic=64)

ADN Treaty (http://s2.invisionfree.com/Rejected_Realms/index.php?showtopic=9)

The entire region has been made aware of our one alliance (with the ADN) via the World Factbook Entry. Although the ASE has proposed an alliance, none exists at present. If such an alliance were to be confirmed (There appears to be some disagreement on the ASE's end right now), it would also be declared in the WFE.

Hey your allied with us too!

Yes, I am a Meritocratic Senator myself, but that should in no way be interpreted as an official alliance between the RR and Meritocracy.

If the RR would indeed like to form more official alliances, Nasicournia would be more than happy to ally with the region under the delegateship of Kandarin.

Through the leadership of the current delegate, I have become well acquainted with many natives of the Rejected Realms. Although I do feel we are allies of a kind through our joint ADN membership, Nasicournia has also formed official alliances through contract with the regions we most closely support (as listed in our World Factbook Entry, with several more pending vote finalizations). Said alliances affect all 180+ nations residing in Nasicournia and the Nasicournian Borderlands.

If it is more alliances the natives of the RR desire, I am sure the many of us that hold Kandarin in the highest regard would be happy to see it through. I personally hold Kandarin as a close friend and ally, and would be honored to see our two regions formally allied.

High Queen Pope Hope IV
Director of the Alliance Defense Network
Regional Delegate/Founder of Nasicournia
ADN Co-Director of Intelligence

I support Kandarin, He has done a good job and well I think he will keep up doing one.

For the Liberation of All Peoples!

The Supreme Yüskarl will be watching the situation in The Rejected Realms closely. As he has little information regarding the two struggling powers, he feels no need to support either side. Rest assured, however, that a rising force grows within the world, and soon... yes, very soon indeed... the Cesar Liberation Front will surpass all in force and fervor!

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The Infallible Cesar
Supreme Yüskarl of The Cesar Liberation Front

I support Kandarin, He has done a good job and well I think he will keep up doing one.

I echo these sentiments, and wish him much continued success

You know, back in the day, the well-meaning religious folk went to America, and the scum of the British Empire was forcibly exiled to Australia. And look who built the better society. I see The Rejected Realms as being the NS analogue of RL Australia. So Kandarin actually has my respect, for turning what was by design the most unpromising of all regions into a reasonably civil and law-abiding society. I would not like to see that destabilised, so I guess it is a case of "better the devil that you know". Maybe the RR does not play the high profile role it once did in inter-regional politics, but I am sure that new alliances can be forged without a complete change of leadership.

Tactical Grace
UN Delegate / Minister of War / Defence Consultancy
Mercia The Next Generation (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_region/region=Mercia_The_Next_Generation)

I'm scum being Australian :shock:

I'm scum being Australian :shock:
LOL, not really. It has moved on a bit since the early 19th century. :wink:

And by all accounts, when nuclear armageddon hits, Australia will be the last place standing. So you must have done something right! :D

And by all accounts, when nuclear armageddon hits, Australia will be the last place standing. So you must have done something right! :D

Hmm....*starts packing his bags*

On-Topic:

I'm remaining neutral in my official capacity.

The Liberal Unitary Republic of Goobergunchia
Founder, Democratic Underground region

However, I don't see the pressing need for regime change in the RR...Kandarin does a pretty good job as Delegate IMHO.

The Golden State of Terminated California
Puppet of Goobergunchia
Rejected Realms Inhabitant

Kandarin has inded been doing a good job, in my opinion, and having not seen the RR during the brief reign of Jenniver, I support Kandarin, by default.

She may be able tp convince me that she would do a better job than he would, but I will have to see some evidence of tha.

It seems that given the stability and leadership shown by Kandirin there is no need for a new Delegate. Also i've some serious concerns about those that are pulling the strings in Jenniviers campaign.

And by all accounts, when nuclear armageddon hits, Australia will be the last place standing. So you must have done something right! :D

Hmm....*starts packing his bags*

Don't use those leaky boats, or well you'll end in Nauru or a nice detention center.

Jennvier, I am most curious as to why you have not answerd my question about your voter fruad.

do you really feel that voter fraud is so minor an offence? especially in one who would like to become the head of a governmetn? why should the residents of the RR (myself in included) believe that you are past your lying ways?

why do you feel it necessary to spam the residents of the rr?

4 hours ago The Allied States of Bedlam-2 Anybody else around here getting a little p-oed at Jennivier's constant solicitation for endorsements. He/She has tm'd me at least 3 times within the last week asking me to endorse them, and one time actually asked me to remove my endorsement from Kandarin. I continue to advise that it is not personal, but I support Kandarin, but I continue to get these messages. This tells me that Jennivier is not sincerely interested in my nation, as he/she does not even remember talking to me a day or two ago. What kind of delegate would that make. I find that every message that I have ever sent Kandarin has been responded to in a polite and cordial manner, and he seems to remember what he said from day to day.

Personally, I think Kandarin is the only choice....

3 hours ago The Invader-kicking Defenders of Zandra i also had 3 telegrams from jennivier in a short time (a week or so), asking me for endorsments, but the only person in the RR that will get my support, is kandarin, he has done much for the rejected realms, and he has my trust.

82 minutes ago The Protectorate of THE HANGING JUDGE i also had 3 telegrams from jennivier in a short time (a week or so), asking me for endorsments, but the only person in the RR that will get my support, is kandarin, he has done much for the rejected realms, and he has my trust.
Thou quoteth well and surely do I follow thee on thine sentiments,for tis a dastardly thing they Jennivier doth do in prising procurement of endorsement through the back door.
Yea Though I have been a pestilence on his very soul in this degrading fortitude he so encompasses as his policy to delegacy,he will surely fail,verily it is thy peoples compassion to Kandarin that sayeth all and twill win the day.

surely if you are the one for the RR you won't need to spam anyone? why the tactics? why wouldn't one note do?

For the Liberation of All Peoples!

The Supreme Yüskarl will be watching the situation in The Rejected Realms closely. As he has little information regarding the two struggling powers, he feels no need to support either side. Rest assured, however, that a rising force grows within the world, and soon... yes, very soon indeed... the Cesar Liberation Front will surpass all in force and fervor!

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The Infallible Cesar
Supreme Yüskarl of The Cesar Liberation Front
So who are you currently supporting Yüsk?

I can see no reason to boot Kandarin from office. Don't spend any time there, but seems like Kan is doing a good job to me. I recall the pre-stability days of the RR.