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I constantly see people getting crashing and griefing confused, and on this thread (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=109525&highlight=) TG got region hawks, and what I will call region vultures confused. When you see normally very sensible and level-headed (far more than yours truly, most of the time) people making mistakes like this then you realize that it is time for

A Clarification of In-Game Pastimes and Their Morality

Now obviously, this is merely my 2/144ths of a drachauq, but as you likely know by now, I am very opinionated, and as it is not about politics, I am certainly going to share it.

Invading

Moral: Region Crashing
Region Crashing is when you take over the delegacy of a region with allies, usually for a brief period of time. For more information cantact Ackbar or Nothingg.

AMoral and ILLEGAL: Region Griefing
There is an extesive sticky on what constitutes griefing here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=109397&highlight=), so again, not much need to elaborate.


Counter-Invading


Moral: Region Counter-Crashing
Region counter crashing is when you take delegacy in order to remove the invaders, then when your interests in the region are secure, leave. This is according to Spoffin, one of NationStates' experts on counter-invading.


AMoral: Region Manipulation
I see this confused with counter-invading a lot, but then again, all of these things are in here because they get people confused. This is when "defenders", who keep in mind are invaders themselves, come into a region on the pretense of counter-invading, gain the natives suport for the delegacy, and then never leave. Needless to say, this type of behavior tarnises the reputations of defdenders as much as griefers do of invaders.


Region Hopping


Moral: Region Hopping Visits
Ahh, now we get into everybody's favorite: the lovable nationsstates animals who for some reason a large number of eople want to strangle. Somehow those two little entries in the regional happenings in every region they visit drives some people insane. Yet this is harmless, and often the animals collect useful data from the regions that the visit.

Moral: Themed Region Hopping
This is basically the same above, except with a theme (for example one nation I saw today went through all regions named after African countries. And then there were those geese, who went From Canada to Mexico, leaving hnked greetings as they pased through. I can understand that the greetings would be annoying, but the trails are fun, and harmless.

AMoral and ILLEGAL: Happenings Spamming
I'm sure that we've all seen happenings spamming. Need I elaborate. The point is, two entries are not going to destroy the regional happenings. Complaetely covering them and continuing it for a quarter of an hour or so is.

Legal Annexation


Moral: Region Hawking
I describe region hawking here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=109525&highlight=). This is when you wait patiently for a region to die of neglect and abandonment, NOT WATCHING FOR A FOUNDERLESS REGION TO BE EVACUATED.

AMoral: Region Nabbing
Region Nabbing is the despicable practice of watching a region which recently had its founder die be evacuated, and then refounding it ahead of the founder. I call these people region vultures. But perhaps I'm being to kind.

At least vutures have some benefit in the scheme of things.

AMoral and pointless: Region Scavenging
This is when somebody watches a region griefed to oblivion, and then refounds it. Very similar to region nabbing, except that as you gained the region as a by-product of a griefing, you do not get to keep it. Sadly region nabbers do.

I think that that sums up my rant.

Just my opinion, but a very vehment one.

Here is what I do not get. Everyone makes a big stink about spamming, but they are spamming when they messaged Modalert all the time. It is quite annoying seeing everyone post that about every blessed little thing.

*claps*


Only one complaint .. 2/144th = 1/72 (Simplify the fractions :P)


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The Most Serene People's Republic of Naleth
"Life is a suicide mission"
Shameless Plug for Adelaide (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_region/region=Adelaide)

AMoral and pointless: Region Scavenging
This is when somebody watches a region griefed to oblivion, and then refounds it. Very similar to region nabbing, except that as you gained the region as a by-product of a griefing, you do not get to keep it. Sadly region nabbers do.



don't know, Qaaool..
i sometimes do this, so the griefers don't recreate the region.
but since i report the griefing myself, the mods often come in, and remove me from foundership anyway. (like in the region atlantic alliance, this wasn't created by members of the AA, but by someone from harkinnen's little group. the AA griefed the region, and they wanted to recreate it for themselves, but i spotted them, and reported the griefing.
when the region died, i recreated the region, and now, cog has re-instated the old founder, poofity land.)

it's just funny to see the faces of the griefers, all their "hard work" for nothing. :D

don't know, Qaaool..
i sometimes do this, so the griefers don't recreate the region.
but since i report the griefing myself, the mods often come in, and remove me from foundership anyway. (like in the region atlantic alliance, this wasn't created by members of the AA, but by someone from harkinnen's little group. the AA griefed the region, and they wanted to recreate it for themselves, but i spotted them, and reported the griefing.
when the region died, i recreated the region, and now, cog has re-instated the old founder, poofity land.)

it's just funny to see the faces of the griefers, all their "hard work" for nothing. :D
Now I need to clarify the clarifications. :lol:
I meant that doing it in an attempt to capture the region.

*claps*


Only one complaint .. 2/144th = 1/72 (Simplify the fractions :P)


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The Most Serene People's Republic of Naleth
"Life is a suicide mission"
Shameless Plug for Adelaide (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_region/region=Adelaide)
Ah, but we don't have tuppence in Qaaolchoura. Though you are right, we should begin minting some. :wink:

Now I need to clarify the clarifications. :lol:
I meant that doing it in an attempt to capture the region.

I know of several regions where 'Region Scavenging' happened, and because the Natives either didn't return (when an almost dead region gets griefed) or welcomed the new Founder, the 'scavenger' was kept on as Founder. As long as the natives don't see it as harm done, no harm is done.

Ballotonia

Now I need to clarify the clarifications. :lol:
I meant that doing it in an attempt to capture the region.

I know of several regions where 'Region Scavenging' happened, and because the Natives either didn't return (when an almost dead region gets griefed) or welcomed the new Founder, the 'scavenger' was kept on as Founder. As long as the natives don't see it as harm done, no harm is done.

Ballotonia
'K then when I get around to fixing it, I'll mentio that.

<---- Wonders if he's ever unknowingly scavanged an almost-dead region that was griefed.

Great thread once again, Qaaol. Very informative, and useful. Threads like these make for excellent reference redirects. :)

Great thread once again, Qaaol. Very informative, and useful. Threads like these make for excellent reference redirects. :)
Thanks. :D

Moral: Region Crashing



I just like seeing that. :lol: :D


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