NationStates Jolt Archive

What the Gameplay Forum is for, in a general sense


Talk about regional politics, and why llamas are a cooler national animal than squirrels.


Compiled from the ideas of Qaaolchoura and others at http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=100826

The Gameplay Forum is neither another RP forum, nor a new Tech Forum, but rather, a forum for discussing puppets, parody nations, UN rankings, in-game empires, the issues surrounding region crashing, region hoppers, etc. That is to say a forum for those activities which exist in the NS World regional domain and are not truly role-play, but are semi-IC, and therefore fall into a sort of no-man's land between Technical, NationStates, Moderation, and General. A forum, essentially, for players of the NS World side of the game to discuss their technical maneuvres and the underlying politics.

The Gameplay Forum is therefore broadly for NS World issues, not Forum issues. This would include:

Discussion of in-game technical maneuvres and the underlying politics, more specifically:

Regional politics, inter-regional relations, rivalries and alliances.
Discussion of and responses to events in NS World, such as diplomatic crises, etc.
The merits, tactics and etiquette of region crashing and defending.

Regional publicity and PR, in the form of, but not necessarily limited to:

Region Directories / Recruitment.
Regional Forum / Website Directory.

Issues relating to nation and region configurations / customisable fields and ownership, such as:

Discussion of witty or apt comments for mottos and other customisable fields.
Showing off / discussing parody nations.
Descriptions / discussion of puppets and about others' puppets.
Description of non-RP-related national characteristics.
Flag Services.
Map Services.

Discussion of methods that people use to occupy their time in the Game.
Discussions about semi-IC themed regions.
Discussions about region hopping (not just Bunny, there are plenty of region hoppers with much smaller, more focused circuits).
Miscellaneous issues involving use of the NS World game engine.

But not forum-based role-play. If you have moved some UN nations into someone else's region and have assumed control, that belongs here. If you have sent some armoured divisions on their way to someone's nation's capital, that belongs in NS or II. This forum exists so that NS World players can have a semi-IC forum to themselves without RP, for which there are already two forums in existence.

This is just my take on things, but I feel the "real" action in NS is about people - specifically, those who have a nation with UN membership - which ensures "one person, one vote".

You can RP with just one nation, especially if you've had it long enough that it has a large population. You can have as many puppets as you want. But growing your region, the internal politics of becoming delegate, region crashing and defending yourself and your allies against invasion - that's teamplay, and the aspect I find most interesting and challenging.

It's nice to have a forum for it. :)

White Lotus Eaters
UN Delegate, Urbanites (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_region/region=urbanites)

not meaning to sound dumb, but how do you upgrade your economy,military and so forth. any and all help would be greatly welcomed. the rocks just don't seem to have a large threat value

not meaning to sound dumb, but how do you upgrade your economy,military and so forth. any and all help would be greatly welcomed. the rocks just don't seem to have a large threat value

There are certain issues that allow you to upgrade these things (but sometimes at the expense of another). For example, I got an issue yesterday about the discovery of a uranium mine. I could:

1. Bulldoze the rainforest on top of it. :headbang:
2. Keep the rainforest. :rolleyes:
3. Mine a small part and leave most of the rainforest intact. :D

I chose choice 3, and the next day I saw that my economy had risen, but in my nation's description it noted that my national animal was on the brink of extinction due to widespread deforestation.

Another issue was pretty straight-forward, and I had to choose which department to give more funds to. For example, I could increase funds in military, or education, etc..

Just as a side-note, when RPing with your nation in a war, you should keep in mind a few things: Your nation's size, economy, and whether or not it has attributes that affiliate with the military, I.E. compulsive military service.

could someone please give me the rating system again? emperor Mathuises link dosnt seem to be working any more... :headbang:

could someone please give me the rating system again? emperor Mathuises link dosnt seem to be working any more... :headbang:
That's because it's a link from the old forums. http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=275386

how do you give buy things, such as weapons and stuff? And where do you see how much money you have.

how do you give buy things, such as weapons and stuff? And where do you see how much money you have.
Hi. Welcome to NationStates. There is nothing in the game mechanics that simulate buying and selling. Buying and selling is done by roleplay. You'll see in the International Incidents forum several threads of players who who sell things. If you see something you want, you just make a post (example (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7520865&postcount=323)) and the player who started the thread will either confirm or deny your order.

As to money, some players have made calculators to help you judge your economy. Each one will probably give you different results, but you'll have an idea of your economy. Here are the ones I know of:

http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php
http://twr.1colony.com/ver8/calc8.0.html
http://www.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?nation=
http://www.sunsetrpg.com/nsxmlparser.php
http://www.sunsetrpg.com/economystatistics.php

You should also note, a defense budget is not entirely used to buy stuff. Procurement should probably be in the 20%-30% range of a defense budget.

There seem to be a number of threads recently addressing two-year anniversaries. While it's nice to see some of the reports from players who were active very early in the game, I don't think we necessarily want to turn Gameplay into the Anniversary Forum.

Can some of these be combined? Can we have a Two Year Anniversary rolling thread that people could add to as they reach the milestone, or do we actually want each nation's history listed separately?

If this spawns a long discussion, I'll split it off later (as I just did with all the off-topic stuff in this thread), but for now I think this is an appropriate place for such a discussion.

I was reccomended by a friend and I think this is very interesting.

yeah, sounds like a good plan, fris, kinda like an ongoing party :D

So, would here (this board, not this thread) be the right place to suggest features for the game (like people's economy calculators for example, something that adds to the game, without changing the way it works or cause any compulsory changes), or would it go in Technical?

Apologies for my ignorance, but you know what they say: "If ya don't ask, ya don't get."

I hope I am posting in the right place....Is there a way to alter an issue after it has passed? I accidentially clicked a choice in an issue that I didn't mean to...The joys of being exausted after a 12 hour shift at one job, 3 hour break then 5 hours at another.

Thank you.

Actually, this would go in the Got Issues? forums... but alas, I'll answer it here for you. No, you can't go back and change an issue selection once it's updated; you'll just have to wait for the issue to come back up again for you to be able to pick another choice. If your issue is still in queue, and hasn't updated, then, you can still change it before the update.

this is probably a question with a really obvious answer... How do you get a custom title for your natin? for example, I'm the Armed Republic of Yurislavia. How could I become the Dut tape-provine of Yurislavia, for example? (I know the name's tacky, I'm tired and just needed an example, right?)

this is probably a question with a really obvious answer... How do you get a custom title for your natin? for example, I'm the Armed Republic of Yurislavia. How could I become the Dut tape-provine of Yurislavia, for example? (I know the name's tacky, I'm tired and just needed an example, right?)

First, get a population over 500 million.

Second, go to "settings" and type in your custom title where the drop-down menu was.

I'm going to create an "official list of NS reagons"

Would this be proper to post in General, or International Incidents? Or both?

I'm going to create an "official list of NS reagons"

Would this be proper to post in General, or International Incidents? Or both?

I wouldn't suggest doing so, seeing as there are thousands upon thousands of regions, some of which are deleted over updates. It would probably get a little too confusing, keeping it updated, and would take a heck of a lot of time to make sure that each region still exists.

If you do end up creating one though, it would go here, in Gameplay.

I just found nationstates like a week ago...im having trouble trying to figure out roleplaying (decalring war, trading, forming alliances...u know.) HElP!

I just found nationstates like a week ago...im having trouble trying to figure out roleplaying (decalring war, trading, forming alliances...u know.) HElP!


First, relax and breathe.


Secondly, I'd suggest that you check this out: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=414035
It's a consolidation of a lot of helpful threads that will answer your questions.

how do i get an army ? :sniper:

In some regions, on the regional board, I see "Founder clearing spam". How can we do this ? I also suffered from spam some time ago. :mp5:

how do i get an army ? :sniper:

you can either RP getting/developing one, or you can purchase lots of goodies from various stores on these forums.

you can either RP getting/developing one, or you can purchase lots of goodies from various stores on these forums.

That's an RP army. A regional army requires lots of hard work and time.

In some regions, on the regional board, I see "Founder clearing spam". How can we do this ? I also suffered from spam some time ago.

Founders (and ONLY FOUNDERS) can make a series of posts on their regional board to clear spam off of the board. It's essentially spam, but with the crucial distinction that it says "Founder Clearing Spam" or something similar. If you don't do it that way, the Moderators will most likely delete you.

What is the point of a dossier and how could it be made useful?

Two good uses of dossiers are:

- recruiting: you can keep a track of who you've TGed, to avoid spamming;
- UN lobbying: you can keep a track of who you've TGed, to avoid spamming.

You could also use it, for example, to put a list of people you plan to invite to an RP, of known invaders/defenders, of your puppets...the dossier can have many uses.

I am the Holy Emperor of the Mystic Mountain.
Greetings to all my humble and benevolent allies out there, this as some may now is the first time on one of these forums. I send my best wishes and a warm alliance.
Holy Emperor Zachary Mooney of the Mystic Mountain
;)

Llamas are not cooler than squirrels!!!!! :mad: Hey how long has there been an upyours smilie?

Llamas are not cooler than squirrels!!!!! :mad: Hey how long has there been an upyours smilie?

Jolt has had that smilie since before NationStates moved to Jolt.

how do you give buy things, such as weapons and stuff? And where do you see how much money you have.

It's all roleplaying. You either vote on a UN proposal if you're a UN member, get involved in regional politics, or you roleplay on here. It's not a traditional kind of browser-based game.

Hello from chocolate cakeland...where chocolate cake abounds and the cows are a-plenty to wash it down with! (and that is why the cow is better than the squirrel, maybe not the llama...but definitely better than a squirrel) My nation is brand new and Im not sure what Im doing or how to find a post to a forum I made. We are apparently a really free society, and my economy bites....how do I find out what my people have to trade with? :confused:

How do i play this game, is it all role playing ? :confused:

SNLA']How do i play this game, is it all role playing ? :confused:

No, it's not all role-playing, but there is a heavy RP emphasis. For war, trade and so on, then it's all RP. However, there are other ways to get involved:

1. Gameplay. This involves invasion and defending of regions, using UN nations. The best way to learn about this is to read the stickies in this forum, and then join a region dedicated to one of the two sides.
2. Debating. In the General forum, there are many debates (and more light-hearted topics), and no RPing is done.
3. UN. There is some RP in UN debates, but you don't need to do any. You can simply debate the textual merits of UN resolutions in the UN forums.

If you don't even want to go on the forums, then you can still have a lot of fun answering issues, voting on resolutions, and interacting with regional friends.

For me, the best part of the game is the off site forums. Many of the larger regions such as Canada, Allied States of EuroIslanders, etc. have incredibly active offsite forums. Join these regions and then join these forums. You can really get to know all of the people in your region very well this way.

In addition, some of these are defender/invader regions. Pick your side (defender is better :) ) and join one of these. Good luck.

Does anyone know what some of the defender/attacker regions are? :confused:

yes, me :p

is there anyway to veiw more stats of your nation other than the breifing at the begininng. Civil rights, econcomy, political. is there a breakdown or anyhting like that

is there anyway to veiw more stats of your nation other than the breifing at the begininng. Civil rights, econcomy, political. is there a breakdown or anyhting like that

Here's a start (http://nstracker.retrogade.com/).:)

This is just my take on things, but I feel the "real" action in NS is about people - specifically, those who have a nation with UN membership - which ensures "one person, one vote".

You can RP with just one nation, especially if you've had it long enough that it has a large population. You can have as many puppets as you want. But growing your region, the internal politics of becoming delegate, region crashing and defending yourself and your allies against invasion - that's teamplay, and the aspect I find most interesting and challenging.

It's nice to have a forum for it. :)

White Lotus Eaters
UN Delegate, Urbanites (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_region/region=urbanites)

Hello,
I am relatively new to NS so pardon me if I ask a few dumb questions. First, I've seen a lot about the UN and think it's a good idea. However, is every proposal that passes completely binding? In other words is there a way to side step any resolutions I don't agree with?

Also, in regards to regions do you think it is wise to join an already existing one or create your own. I have created my own already but it's just me. If I should stay in my own created region how should I go about promoting my region?

Finally, what is role playing? I know the name is fairly self-explanatory, but how does it affect you NS experience and what does it usually involve?

Thanks to anyone who replies!

Anyone know how to create an issue?
I have been searching 4 quite some time with no luck:headbang:
Thank You

l :gundge:
ISSUES

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=421198

Does anyone know what some of the defender/attacker regions are? :confused:

Take a look at Myrth's sticky list, one of the first few links is a complete list of defender/invader regions.

Can you change your nation significantly because i accidently became a corrupt dictatorship, will i ever be goverment again?

Can you change your nation significantly because i accidently became a corrupt dictatorship, will i ever be goverment again?
Yes, you can change your government over time, by answering issues. In your case, you would want to answer issues that give people more political freedom.

I have no clue what I am doing here, so what makes me money and help me buy stuff?

Okay, I want to get info out about my tiny (65 million+ Person) "Rogue Nation" known as Tequilapoli. Is there any specific place I should post an Info Page here?

:confused: How does one get ranked within their regions? What is it determined by?

:confused: How does one get ranked within their regions? What is it determined by?


You automatically get ranked by the U.N. It is determined by your choices on issues and also what options you choose when you made your nation. You get ranked in your region and in the world.

I am so confused. Is there a new player's guide? Everything on the main site says there is no war, and then in the forum, all the posts are about war. I don't know wth I am supposed to be doing

I am so confused. Is there a new player's guide? Everything on the main site says there is no war, and then in the forum, all the posts are about war. I don't know wth I am supposed to be doing
There's no game supported war, where you have troops and lose soldiers and such. Instead, people can choose to roleplay war and diplomatic interactions in the International Incidents and NationStates Forums.

If you don't want to go to war, then on the Jolt forums you can participate in the UN or perhaps General discussions of RL issues. Or you can participate in your regional government, which would likely have its own offsite forum.

I am so confused. Is there a new player's guide?

I'd read all the stickies in the forums.

I'm new too (and confused). There appears to be a rule : Sending unsolicited recruitment telegrams to nations outside of game-created regions is not permitted.

What is a game-created region and what is not a game-created region and how do I tell the difference?

I'm new too (and confused). There appears to be a rule : Sending unsolicited recruitment telegrams to nations outside of game-created regions is not permitted.

What is a game-created region and what is not a game-created region and how do I tell the difference?

Here is a list of game-created regions >http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Feeder

Basically if a region is not on that list then you cannot post messages on their board or telegram them advertising your region.

What is a game-created region and what is not a game-created region and how do I tell the difference?
A better source is The One-Stop Rules Shop, which lists not only the feeders but the Warzones as well. Just because I like making more work for myself, here's a complete list:
the Pacific
The North Pacific
The East Pacific
The South Pacific
The West Pacific
The Rejected Realms
Lazarus
Warzone Africa
Warzone Airspace
Warzone Asia
Warzone Australia
Warzone Europe
Warzone Sandbox
Please note that the word "the" is an essential part of those feeder region names. "North Pacific" exists as a player-created region, as do all the other "the"-less pacifics and "Rejected Realms". There are other random oceanic names (Central Pacific, The Atlantic, etc) that players have created. Also, there are a few 'unofficial' warzones that aren't on the list above. Don't advertise there either.

First, get a population over 500 million.

Second, go to "settings" and type in your custom title where the drop-down menu was.
How do I increase the population, then? Or is it something that I have no control over?

Also, how important is it to exchange embassies with other nations? Will doing so improve my citizens' quality of life, will it increase my influence, or is it just a pointless exercise in popularity?

Any help would be appreciated.

How do I increase the population, then? Or is it something that I have no control over?

Also, how important is it to exchange embassies with other nations? Will doing so improve my citizens' quality of life, will it increase my influence, or is it just a pointless exercise in popularity?

Any help would be appreciated.
Your population increases every day you stay alive. About 3 months gets you to 500 million.

There's no in-game way to exchange embassies, so it won't be able to affect any of your stats. You *can* exchange endorsements, which will affect your influence.

Your population increases every day you stay alive. About 3 months gets you to 500 million.

There's no in-game way to exchange embassies, so it won't be able to affect any of your stats. You *can* exchange endorsements, which will affect your influence.
Thanks for the info, Erastide. Is it acceptable to propose the exchange of endorsements through regional messages?

Endorsement swapping is looked down upon in some regions as it sends out the message that you are trying to overthrow the Delegate.

So I'd be careful if you plan to send out telegrams asking for endorsements and just endorse a few people and hope they return it.

Anyone know what the UN catagorys are?
Sorry if this has alredy been posted

In the gameplay sticky list...

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=392208

It seems that most of the issues that are submitted (and then I receive) are of the nature that the choices are:

A. Agree with my utopian ideas

B. Continue to eat babies and kill kittens

If a third choice is offered, its rarely a middle of the road choice, they leave out the "kill kittens" . The options are rarely realistic or viable and I find most times that rather than allow someone else to pigeon-hole my nation, I must dismiss the issue rather than dealing with it.

I disagree

Most I have found are like the dams one I got or the Uranium one

Utopian (Regected out of hand)
Midle of the road (Some good some not)
And the greedy option (Mine I am playing EVIL)

I am also new here.

My chief source of income is privateering.

Since this is an international, unregulated and (perhaps) illicit trade,
how do I accumulate national income?

I have offered services (such as euthanasia services by taking people
out to sea for 500 a head) on the Incident board:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=505105

Will such posts effect my national income?

I am also new here.

My chief source of income is privateering.

Since this is an international, unregulated and (perhaps) illicit trade,
how do I accumulate national income?

I have offered services on the Incident board (such as euthanasia
services by taking people out to sea for 500 a head) will such posts
effect my national income?

Those posts (roleplay) will not affect your nation's stats (game mechanics) on the main site, no.

You can have a roleplayed national income, if you want. Just keep in mind that it's only roleplay.

Hello, a newbie here totally dazed and confused.

I have about 175.984 questions, but I'll only make a few:confused:

If I join the U.N, do I have to abide to their laws and proposals (I suppose I'll have to, right) but do I have any influence/vote? Can I opt out once I've entered?

How do the economy/international trade works? And the military? Can I be militarily invaded? How can I build up my military, if possible? Is there any way to measure it?

And whats this "region" thing about? I mean, is it just like proposing mutually abiding laws and treaties, joint international/U.N representation, and stuff like that?

Thanks!!.

If I join the U.N, do I have to abide to their laws and proposals (I suppose I'll have to, right)

Short answer: Yes. If you want a longer answer, there's a more detailed explanation of compliance in the UN Reference Guide (found in the UN forum).

but do I have any influence/vote?

You have 1 vote in the UN (unless you're a regional Delegate).

Can I opt out once I've entered?

Yes. You can resign at any time.

How do the economy/international trade works? And the military? Can I be militarily invaded? How can I build up my military, if possible? Is there any way to measure it?

You can do those things through roleplay. For more information, see the stickies in the International Incidents forum.

And whats this "region" thing about? I mean, is it just like proposing mutually abiding laws and treaties, joint international/U.N representation, and stuff like that?

You can do a lot of things with a region, but the ones that are almost always done are joint international (alliances or wars with other regions) and joint UN representation (collective voting).

The only thing i really would like is a list of the different regional influence rankings and maybe the different UN classifications. i can't seem to find that info anywhere.

The only thing i really would like is a list of the different regional influence rankings and maybe the different UN classifications. i can't seem to find that info anywhere.

You looked... everywhere? Like at the topics stickied to the top of various forums? This one in fact? :rolleyes:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=477177
and
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499394

You looked... everywhere? Like at the topics stickied to the top of various forums? This one in fact? :rolleyes:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=477177
and
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499394

Look man I know what the regional influences are for and how they affect gameplay. I want a list of all the different classifications. Your links didn't help.

Your links didn't help.

Your question was answered in the first link, and linked in the second. The fact that you lack the patience to read a long thread is hardly our problem.

The answer you seek is here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11014677#post11014677). Note that it is not the answer you asked for, but it is the answer you're getting.

Your question was answered in the first link, and linked in the second. The fact that you lack the patience to read a long thread is hardly our problem.

The answer you seek is here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11014677#post11014677). Note that it is not the answer you asked for, but it is the answer you're getting.

Ok fair enough. There's really no reason to hold back a list of the different rankings. The calculations for the way you get there ok hide that but the list? Weak. I'll take it as it is though.

Most games don't expose all their formulae because it turns the game into number-crunching. This isn't exactly a new concept.

I understand not wnating to release the formula of how you get a certain ranking. I wouldn't want to play a game where all the math majors would be at the top. I'm just at a loss for understanding how a list of the rankings top to bottom would help them. Sure they would know where they stand compared to others in their region but what good does that do really? That's all I wanted to know is where I stand compared to everyone else in my region.

Is there a way one may change the answers to the questions posed when you created your nation? Also, I think having more than two issues a day would be great, possibly 4.