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The Basenji
29-12-2003, 00:10
Welcome to the Gameplay forum, a place to talk about most anything NationStates. You may have a few questions about what you should post in this forum, and I hope this helps clear things up.
What belongs here?
]In response to popular demand, this new forum has been created in order to provide a place for players to discuss "in-game" matters -- without requiring role-playing. A bit of a gap has opened up between players who engage in highly involved role-playing in the forums and those who don't; until now, the latter haven't really had anywhere to chat about gameplay.
So basically, this is a place to talk about the mechanics of the game
Here's a list of what you can post here-
Region advertisements
Talk about national animals
Descriptions of Puppets on controls, and about other's puppets
Discussions on the merits of region crashing.
Methods that people use to occupy their time in the Game.
Discussions of the merits and etiquette of Crashing/Anti-Crashing
Discussions about region hopping (not just Bunny, there are plenty of region hoppers with much smaller, more focused circuits.
Discussions about Semi-IC themed regions.
Showing off/discussing parody nations.
Discussion witty comments for mottos.
What you may not post here-
Anything having to do with Role Playing
Any IC (In Character) posts
Flag services
Store threads
As Qaaolchoura pointed out-
The reason that we got this much support was because so many people who play the game did not feel comfortable discussing it in NationStates, which was being taken over by RPers, and became wholly their territory. Now that they have two forums just for RP, they can use one of them for discussions of concept and recruitment and one for the RP, leaving us our forum in In-Game activities (crashing, mottos, regional recruitment, etc.)
(If I left anything out or messed something up, please tell me and I'll change it after I'm done eating dinner)
~Bas the Evil Non-Moderator
Unfree People
29-12-2003, 00:13
So basically, this is a place to talk about the game and stay OOC (Out Of Character). How about changing that to "talk about the mechanics of the game" - OOC RP threads shouldn't be in here either.
Oh, and, fix your list tags...
If you get on chat, Bas, query me, I wanna talk to you about this forum
Qaaolchoura
29-12-2003, 00:22
The discussion and conclusions are here: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=100826&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Below was basically what I refuted and then proposed, then there is another discussion that I had with Ackbar, and everythin else is one or two ideas at a time.
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Some examples of threads that could go into this (hopefully)new forum:
1. godmoder talk---- http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=100845
2. flag services---- http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=100365
3. how is XMas celebrated in your nation---- http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=99511
4. RP sign-up threads
5. Store threads
6. deliberate Godmoding wars
7. regional adverts
8. national fact book entries
Numbers added for ease.
1. RP Related
2. yes, ths is nation related, although it fits in Techincal and NationStates
3. RP
4. RP (these threads are pointless anyways, the RPer equivilant of chat threads, only with slightly lss point).
5. RP
6. IC, but, I suppose that this might work
7. Part of the NS forum, but yes, this could go in a game forum
8. RP
Anything labeled with an "RP" indicates something that belongs in either NS or II.
What I am talking about are mainly threads which either do not exist yet, mainly as there is no place to put them, or threads that went in NS or General that got lost.
This would included"
1. Decriptions of Puppets on controls, and about other's puppets
2. Discussions on the merits of region crashing.
3. Methods that people use to occupy their time in the Game.
4. Discussions of the merits and etiquittte of Crashing/Anti-Crashing
5. Discussions about region hopping (not just BUnny, there are plenty of region hoppers with much smaller, more focused circuits.
6. Discussions about Semi-IC themed regions.
7. Showing off/discussing parody nations.
8. Discussion witty comments for mottos.
Also some things which would go in NS or Tech, but might work in this hypothetical forum:
1. Region Directories/Recruitment
2. Flag Services
3. Regional Forum directory?
4. Map Services (this is kinda iffy as it would fit in for Regional maps, but is kinda borderline IC, and National Maps definately are)
The RP stuff id definately a bad idea for a forum as I am suggesting unless it is inter-regional(crashing, hopping, with a theme).
Qaaolchoura
29-12-2003, 00:23
Warning, this post is long.
And hence so is the response
I have to be honest with you, I all but refuse to go to General forums, I have heard that they occasionally devour lost nations, as it seems like a black hole with teeth at times? So, I want to get a better idea of what you are suggesting. Would this be a place to talk about actual happenings in the game, VS Rp ascpects of the game. Is this the idea behind this? Sorry, I hadn?t posted on this til now, sort of didn?t understand it, waited for clarity. If I have it wrong, please attempt to clarify what this forum would have, that is not already present. You must understand, I believe I am part catfish and can sometimes be dense.
Ends up I am part scorpion too, who knew?
Yes actual aspects, as I mentioned below, those would be just some of the things. The only RP realatting things would be discussion of in-game RP (as when those French-themed nations invaded The United States, and when those region hopping gesse went through the North AMerican regions[/quote]
1. What do you mean by ?Decriptions of Puppets on controls, and about other's puppets,? do you mean someone would list their own puppets? If so, can?t see why they would (or rather, can?t see why any spy or invader player would ever list his/her puppets. If this is what you suggest, what do you think about such players? If I am wrong, Er- I'm not quite sure what that should have said literally, but I meant lists of puppets that people want to share and decriptions of puppet regions
2. I am always up to discussing this issue. Fair invasion (the minority), failed invasions (the majority), defenders who invade, invaders who invade defenders, what have you. There would still have to be a splash of using Moderation forum from time to time. That said, most threads on invasions have no need for moderators, they are rules that have been said, again and again. So, a speperate place to stow these would be nice.
Exactly why I put this. About once a day I see somebody posting what becomes a fight between invaders and defender in Moderation
3. I like this idea.
Thanks. I have some rather interesting ways, including one which I call "region hawking"
4. So far these discussions have fit in Tech, but I agree this is a good idea. Threads on Crashing etiquette are almost always a reaction to a failure to meet the NS community?s standards, they are a reaction to someone greifing. It would be nice to have an active discussion about this from time to time, could help avoid some griefs.
Far better than I could have phrased it.
5. Don?t nationbots (I call them this because NS Bunny and other hoppers are most likely a program) sort of fit into NationStates forum? I don?t go in there, so I wouldn?t know.
I don't know, but the only time that I've seen the Bunny post post, it was in Tech.
6. Thinks this would be a situational thing.
Yes, which is why it would be nice to have a forum for it.
[quote=Ackbar]7 and 8 seem alright, simple enough to not warrant individual comments.
'K
This is a good argument in favor the prescribed forum.
I didn't know why until he said it, but I did know that NS is treated like an RP forum, and even regional adverts are either ignored or attacked.
I am interested in seeing how this thread goes in the forum it is in.
Well it worked per-se, although I'll see what happens when I put some of my more extreme thread ideas in come winter break, as I mentioned above, regional adverts are ignored or attacked, and its almost sole demographic is now RPers.
Qaaolchoura
29-12-2003, 00:32
That's true, but all the n00bs flocked to II to nuke each other, and the hard core RPers own NS. They don't take too kindly to in-game but only semi-serious RP. I'm a huge in-game RPer, but I wouldn't touch NS or II with a ten foot pole :p
This is a good argument in favor the prescribed forum.
I didn't know why until he said it, but I did know that NS is treated like an RP forum, and even regional adverts are either ignored or attacked. She.
And in an effort to make this post not completely useless, I agree with Qaaol on most all of his points above.
I do think a forum like this would be really neat, but we'd just have to see how many in-game RPers like us would truly use it. I know I would, but how many of the other in-gamers you know actually visit the forums for more than mod whining?
After this, there we few new contributions or disagreements, that I recall although I advise skimming the entire thread.
The Basenji
29-12-2003, 01:20
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I'm still adding any info I can get from Qaal's posts.
Tactical Grace
29-12-2003, 02:25
Hmm, I wrote a very similar one, a bit more clearly laid out, with specific reference to no RP in a Mod-voice sort of way, in case a sticky of this sort was needed. So keep adding stuff here if you want, I have something on ice.
Qaaolchoura
29-12-2003, 02:30
Hmm, I wrote a very similar one, a bit more clearly laid out, with specific reference to no RP in a Mod-voice sort of way, in case a sticky of this sort was needed. So keep adding stuff here if you want, I have something on ice.
Indeed Bas, coming from a mod and with it more clearly laid out than we did, methinks would work better (no offense of course).
The Basenji
29-12-2003, 03:38
Ok, that makes sense. Thank anyway.