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Civil Rights Lovefest?

28-12-2003, 11:01
<--- Can anyone explain why this nation is a CRL? Take a look at the stats:

UN Category: Civil Rights Lovefest
Civil Rights: Excessive
Economy: Frightening
Political Freedoms: Corrupted

Civil Rights is the lowest of all three, the other two are already at maximum?

:?
Petsburg
28-12-2003, 11:04
to be honmest you should be anarchy, you have all three at a high
28-12-2003, 11:21
Its a lovefest if you allow gay lesbians to marry their transgender underaged kittens that have gambling problems because your ex-husband had doctor-assisted suicide :)
28-12-2003, 11:42
But it really should be an anarchy?

*scratches head*

I wonder what will happen when CR is maximized as well...
28-12-2003, 11:44
But it really should be an anarchy?

*scratches head*

I wonder what will happen when CR is maximized as well...A Civil Rights Lovefest is an anarchy, as far as I know...
28-12-2003, 12:04
You're missing my point. According to this... (spoiler alert!)

http://alces.sel.uaf.edu/gregg/ns/nsmap.html

...Westrogoticae should be an anarchy, right? Or, if anything else, a Corporate Bordello
Imperial Forces
28-12-2003, 12:12
Civil Right Lovefest

Civil Right: High
Economic Freedoms: Medium
Political Freedoms: High

Anarch
Civil Right: High
Economic Freedoms: High
Political Freedoms: High
Naleth
28-12-2003, 12:23
Your Economy as a whole is high, but your Economic Freedoms are only middle. It means you have a great economy, there are just plenty of things companies can't do.




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28-12-2003, 12:28
Your Economy as a whole is high, but your Economic Freedoms are only middle. It means you have a great economy, there are just plenty of things companies can't do.



Eh? How can you see that?
Naleth
28-12-2003, 12:44
It's a hidden stat. You can't see it.
28-12-2003, 12:52
Ok. Darn. :) I'll blame it on the UN then and try to repair the damages...

Thanks!
Qaaolchoura
29-12-2003, 03:43
Your Economy as a whole is high, but your Economic Freedoms are only middle. It means you have a great economy, there are just plenty of things companies can't do.




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The Most Serene People's Republic of Naleth
"Life is a suicide mission"
Shameless Plug for Adelaide (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_region/region=Adelaide)
Yeah, Economic Freedoms and Economy are only loosely linked, so you can have some fun with them.
29-12-2003, 04:12
Dont know.. I give my people all the freedoms they want except to capitolize.. And Am still given a U.N. rateing of Iron Fisted socilist.
Qaaolchoura
29-12-2003, 04:18
Dont know.. I give my people all the freedoms they want except to capitolize.. And Am still given a U.N. rateing of Iron Fisted socilist.
Political Freedoms take forever to raise.

IFS means that you have high civil rights(which you want, from what I infer), low economic freedoms(which you want), and low political freedoms(which you don't want).
Free Soviets
29-12-2003, 05:15
Political Freedoms take forever to raise.

and can be taken down dramatically in an instant (stupid gold prospecting scuba diver...)
Qaaolchoura
29-12-2003, 05:24
Political Freedoms take forever to raise.

and can be taken down dramatically in an instant (stupid gold prospecting scuba diver...)
I know. D--n issue.

The submitter of it apparently knows how erm. . . popular. . . his issue is.

His motto is "I don't care what you think of my issue"
Endolantron
29-12-2003, 05:26
Dont know.. I give my people all the freedoms they want except to capitolize.. And Am still given a U.N. rateing of Iron Fisted socilist.
Political Freedoms take forever to raise.

That's true. Two of my nations have waited forever to get the "Voting Rights" issue. I just wish the game could supply more issues per day.
Imperial Forces
29-12-2003, 11:44
NATIONS OF THREE HIGH FREEDOMS

1. Anarchy (All freedoms high)

NATIONS OF TWO HIGH FREEDOMS, ONE MEDIUM FREEDOM

2. Corporate Bordello (Medium Social, High Economic, High Political)
3. Civil Rights Lovefest (High Social, Medium Economic, High Political)
4. Capitalizt (High Social, High Economic, Medium Political)

NATIONS OF ONE HIGH FREEDOM, TWO MEDIUM FREEDOMS

5. Left-Leaning College State (High Social, Medium Economic, Medium Political)
6. Capitalist Paradise (Medium Social, High Economic, Medium Political)
7. New York Times Democracy (Medium Social, Medium Economic, High Political)

NATIONS OF THREE MEDIUM FREEDOMS

8. Inoffensive Centrist Democracy (All freedoms medium)

NATIONS OF TWO HIGH FREEDOMS, ONE LOW FREEDOM

9. Free Market Paradise (Low Social, High Economic, High Political)
10. Left-Wing Utopia (High Social, Low Economic, High Political)
11. Benevolent Dictatorship (High Social, High Economic, Low Political)

NATIONS OF ONE HIGH, ONE MEDIUM, AND ONE LOW FREEDOM

12. Libertarian Police State (High Social, Medium Economic, Low Political)
13. Scandinavian Liberal Paradise (High Social, Low Economic, Medium Political)
14. Compulsory Consumerist State (Medium Social, High Economic, Low Political)
15. Right-Wing Utopia (Low Social, High Economic, Medium Political)
16. Liberal Democratic Socialists (Medium Social, Low Economic, High Political)
17. Conservative Democracy (Low Social, Medium Economic, High Political)

NATIONS OF TWO MEDIUM FREEDOMS, ONE LOW FREEDOM

18. Moralistic Democracy (Low Social, Medium Economic, Medium Political)
19. Democratic Socialists (Medium Social, Low Economic, Medium Political)
20. Father Knows Best State (Medium Social, Medium Economic, Low Political)

NATIONS OF ONE HIGH FREEDOM, TWO LOW FREEDOMS

21. Iron Fist Socialists (High Social, Low Economic, Low Political)
22. Corporate Police State (Low Social, High Economic, Low Political)
23. Tyranny By Majority (Low Social, Low Economic, High Political)

NATIONS OF ONE MEDIUM FREEDOM, TWO LOW FREEDOMS

24. Corrupt Dictatorship (Medium Social, Low Economic, Low Political)
25. Iron Fist Consumerists (Low Social, Medium Economic, Low Political)
26. Authoritarian Democracy (Low Social, Low Economic, Medium Political)

NATIONS OF THREE LOW FREEDOMS

27. Psychotic Dictatorship (All freedoms low)
Qaaolchoura
29-12-2003, 15:04
<-snip->
Original by Aelenti

Aelenti is a player who left the game, but before he did, he and Jesusness(who also left) laid the groundwork for Distributed Thought(who also left the game)'s map, which in turn laid the groundwork for my experiments in my sticky at the top of this forum.
Carlemnaria
29-12-2003, 17:47
by that list/deffinician i should be iron fist socialist
not corrupt dictatorship. (civil rights high, economy basket case, political freedoms low (they WERE moderate untill whatever i still haven't tracked down happened!))

started out anarchy, been scandinavian libral paradise mostly,
occasionaly making civil rights love fest,

and now suddenly find myself 'corrupt dictatorship'
in one fell swoop?

the're is an effect that seems consistent with that but i have no idea what issue it came from
it certainly doesn't look like any response i would have choosen

it was after the economist budgit thing on which i choose the prioritize welfare option that the drastic chainge in status occured

but appearantly whatever the issue i got befor that one was that gave
me anti-environmental protesters being shot on sight certainly counts as an inconsistency which could account of the corrupt part
but i sure don't remember choosing anything that i can remotely immagine having yealded that effect.

if there's a way to scroll back issue history to see which one it was maybe i could make some sense of it.

but the thing is i only remember the congressional budget one and before that all of the others but NOT that one that seems to have come out of nowhere inbetween them.

are random effects without issues sometimes interjected?

at any rate i loved having high civil and at least midian political
and don't mind econ being low if that's what it takes.

(i wouldn't MIND raising econ
IF it weren't that none of what i would consider rational responses to any of the issues i've yet seen were any that could be expected to raise it and most seemed to keep lowering it or keeping it low

and i for sure don't see a lick of sense in prioritising it ahead of
the real effects of real policies on real people, places and things, i mean that's what's got the real world messed up now is doing THAT)

=^^=
.../\...
Qaaolchoura
29-12-2003, 19:06
by that list/deffinician i should be iron fist socialist
not corrupt dictatorship. (civil rights high, economy basket case, political freedoms low (they WERE moderate untill whatever i still haven't tracked down happened!))

started out anarchy, been scandinavian libral paradise mostly,
occasionaly making civil rights love fest,

and now suddenly find myself 'corrupt dictatorship'
in one fell swoop?

the're is an effect that seems consistent with that but i have no idea what issue it came from
it certainly doesn't look like any response i would have choosen

it was after the economist budgit thing on which i choose the prioritize welfare option that the drastic chainge in status occured

but appearantly whatever the issue i got befor that one was that gave
me anti-environmental protesters being shot on sight certainly counts as an inconsistency which could account of the corrupt part
but i sure don't remember choosing anything that i can remotely immagine having yealded that effect.
"Excellent" is the flashpoint between high and moderate civil rights.

As for PF. Make voting voluntary, dismiss the "Diving for @@currency@@" issue, either dismiss the death penalty and vote buying issues, or legalize the death penalty and/or vote buying (this wil raise it but at a cost), and cut back on military spending.

"Corrupt Dictatorship" is not something that only specific issues give you, but rather, the result of many issues and your inital government type/questions.

The environmental protesters being shot I would suspect would arise as a result of the "Reclaim the Streets" issue if you chose to keep cars legal, but not subsidise the Automobile industry.

That would lower your CR and PF in one fell swoop.
Imperial Forces
30-12-2003, 05:57
<-snip->
Original by Aelenti

Aelenti is a player who left the game, but before he did, he and Jesusness(who also left) laid the groundwork for Distributed Thought(who also left the game)'s map, which in turn laid the groundwork for my experiments in my sticky at the top of this forum.

Ahh, I forgot his name.
Qaaolchoura
30-12-2003, 06:10
Ahh, I forgot his name.
But how did you find the data without looking at the thread? :?

Edit: And I realize that you are one of the "others" to whom I owe an apology.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=109608&highlight=
Catholic Europe
30-12-2003, 11:25
I think it has to do with the way you answer issues etc.
Imperial Forces
30-12-2003, 13:06
But how did you find the data without looking at the thread? :?

I thought I might needed it so I saved it on my computer. For personal use of course.