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Nation Creation(+How to get UN Categories) **SPOILER ALERT**

Qaaolchoura
11-12-2003, 02:43
This is one of those posts which*cough* would work better in a forum about gameplay, but since [violet] said that it is unlikely, I put it here

Nation Creation For Dummies

First to provide an overview:

I have done some experiments which I will work with some more during winter vacation, but for the time being here are the results of some experiments which I ran at various times in order of age.

Later I will add other methods of getting government types (for example you I love creating LDS from Conservative government type), quantities, and perhaps some others, assuming that this does not get lost rather rapidly.

Finally, input is appreciated, but do not give me data unless it is in correction of something that I have already claimed. I have a process that I use to figure things out.

And I still think that a gameplay forum would be a good idea ;P
Qaaolchoura
11-12-2003, 02:44
The effects of each government type

Sensible: UN Category: Inoffensive Centrist Democracy Civil Rights: Good Economy: Good Political Freedoms: Good

Liberal: UN Category: Scandinavian Liberal Paradise Civil Rights: Superb Economy: Developing Political Freedoms: Good

Consevative: UN Category: Free-Market Paradise Civil Rights: Few Economy: Very Strong Political Freedoms: Superb

Compassionate: UN Category: Tyranny by Majority Civil Rights: Few Economy: Developing Political Freedoms: Superb

Oppressive: UN Category: Psychotic Dictatorship Civil Rights: Few Economy: Developing Political Freedoms: Few

Corrupt: UN Category: Psychotic Dictatorship Civil Rights: Rare Economy: Weak Political Freedoms: Unheard Of

Anarchaic: UN Category: Anarchy Civil Rights: World Benchmark Economy: Thriving Political Freedoms: World Benchmark

Libertarian: UN Category: Anarchy Civil Rights: Frightening Economy: Strong Political Freedoms: Corrupted

Evil: UN Category: Psychotic Dictatorship Civil Rights: Outlawed Economy: Imploded Political Freedoms: Outlawed

Psycotic: UN Category: Inoffensive Centrist Democracy Civil Rights: Good Economy: Good Political Freedoms: Good
Qaaolchoura
11-12-2003, 02:47
And as for The effects of the questions

1: A country should be judged by how it treats its worst-off citizens.
Strongly Agree: UN Category: Democratic Socialists Civil Rights: Good Economy: Developing Political Freedoms: Good
Strongly Disagree: UN Category: Capitalist Paradise Civil Rights: Good Economy: Very Strong Political Freedoms: Good

2: Corporations do more good for society than harm.
Strongly Agree: UN Category: Capitalist Paradise Civil Rights: Good Economy: Thriving Political Freedoms: Good
Strongly Disagree: UN Category: Democratic Socialists Civil Rights: Good Economy: Weak Political Freedoms: Good

3: Marijuana should be legal.
Strongly Agree: UN Category: Inoffensive Centrist Democracy Civil Rights: Very Good Economy: Good Political Freedoms: Good
Strongly Disagree: UN Category: Inoffensive Centrist Democracy Civil Rights: Below Average Economy: Good Political Freedoms: Good

4: The world needs to rediscover its spirituality.
Strongly Agree: UN Category: Inoffensive Centrist Democracy Civil Rights: Good Economy: Good Political Freedoms: Good
Strongly Disagree: UN Category: Inoffensive Centrist Democracy Civil Rights: Good Economy: Good Political Freedoms: Good

5: A lot of what's wrong with youth today could be fixed by a year's military service.
Strongly Agree: UN Category: Father Knows Best State Civil Rights: Some Economy: Good Political Freedoms: Few
Strongly Disagree: UN Category: Inoffensive Centrist Democracy Civil Rights: Good Economy: Good Political Freedoms: Very Good

6: Capitalism is on the way out.
Strongly Agree: UN Category: Democratic Socialists Civil Rights: Good Economy: Weak Political Freedoms: Good
Strongly Disagree: UN Category: Inoffensive Centrist Democracy Civil Rights: Good Economy: Strong Political Freedoms: Good

7: Without democracy, a country has nothing.
Strongly Agree: UN Category: New York Times Democracy Civil Rights: Good Economy: Good Political Freedoms: Superb
Strongly Disagree: UN Category: Inoffensive Centrist Democracy Civil Rights: Good Economy: Good Political Freedoms: Good

8: It's more important to deter criminals than try to rehabilitate them.
Strongly Agree: UN Category: Inoffensive Centrist Democracy Civil Rights: Some Economy: Good Political Freedoms: Good
Strongly Disagree: UN Category: Inoffensive Centrist Democracy Civil Rights: Very Good Economy: Good Political Freedoms: Good
Qaaolchoura
11-12-2003, 02:48
At Last The Simplest Way to Start off With Each UN Ranking

This woks very simply.
Government Type: self explainatory
Questions:
-None is self explainitory
-SA = Strongly Agree
-SD = Strongly Disagree
--- 0 = Ignore Question

Left-Wing Utopia
Government Type: Liberal
Questions:0 0 0 0 0 0 SA 0
OR
Government Type: Libertarian, Anarchic
Questions: SA SD 0 0 0 0 0 0

Civil Rights Lovefest
Government Type: Libertarian, Anarchic
Questions: SA 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Anarchy
Government Types: Libertarian, Anarchic
Questions: None

Scandanavian Liberal Paradise
Government Types: Liberal
Questions Required: None

Left-Leaning College State
Government Type: Liberal
Questions: SD 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Capitalizt
Government Type: Libertarian, Anarchic
Questions: 0 0 0 0 SA 0 0 0
OR
Government Type: Liberal
Questions: SD SA 0 0 0 0 0 0

Iron-Fist Socialists
Government Type: Liberal
Questions: 0 0 SA 0 SA 0 0 SD

Libertarian Police State
Government Type: Liberal
Questions: SD 0 SA 0 SA 0 0 SD

Benevolent Dictatorship
Government Type: Liberal
Questions: SD SA SA 0 SA 0 0 SD

Liberal Democratic Socialists
Government Type: Sensible, Psycotic
Questions: SA 0 0 0 0 0 SA 0

New York Times Democracy
Government Type: Sensible, Psycotic
Questions: 0 0 0 0 SD 0 SA 0

Corporate Bordello
Government Type: Sensible, Psycotic
Questions: SD SA 0 0 SD 0 SA

Democratic Socialists
Government Types: Sensible, Psycotic
Questions: SA 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Inoffensive Centrist Democracy
Government Type: Sensible, Psycotic
Questions Required: None

Capitalist Paradise
Government Type: Sensible, Psycotic
Questions Required: SD 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Corrupt Dictatorship
Government Type: Sensible, Psycotic
Questions: SA 0 0 0 SA 0 0 0

Father Knows Best State
Government Type: Sensible, Psycotic
Questions: 0 0 0 0 SA 0 0 0

Compulsatory Consumerist State
Government Type: Sensible, Psycotic
Questions: SD 0 0 0 SA 0 0 0

Tyranny by Majority
Government Type: Compasionate
Questions: None

Conservative Democracy
Government Type: Conservative
Questions: SA 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
OR
Government Type: Compassionate
Questions: SD 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Free Market Paradise
Government Types: Conservative
Questions: None

Authoritarian Democracy
Government Type: Oppressive
Questions: 0 0 0 0 0 0 SA 0

Moralistic Democracy
Government Type: Oppressive
Questions: SD 0 0 0 0 0 SA 0

Right-Wing Utopia
Government Type: Conservative
Questions: 0 0 0 0 SA 0 0 0

Psycotic Dictatorship
Government Types: Opressive, Corrupt, Evil
Questions: None

Iron-Fist Consumerists
Government Type: Oppresive
Questions: SD 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Corporate Police State
Government Type: Oppressive
Questions: SD SA 0 0 0 0 0 0
Liverpool England
11-12-2003, 02:50
very nice. Added to my sig (which I occasionally post), and is okay, just maybe you'll get killed by newbies who miss the spoiler alert, lol.

How does this look?
______________________________________________
Greater Imperial Kingdom of Liverpool England,
non moderator
The Getting Help Page (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=help), Tech FAQ (Qaaolchoura) (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=81296), The Game FAQ (http://www.nationstates.net/pages/faq.html), View These Great Threads sticky (Nanakaland) (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=29774), The Concept of good RP/The Infamous IGNORE (TROUSRS) (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=79117), Nation Creation(+How to get UN Categories) **SPOILER ALERT** (Qaaolchoura) (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=102892) and FYI: What you should NOT post in International Incidents (AMF) (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97767&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=)
The Basenji
11-12-2003, 02:55
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=26675

That one is better. ;)
Phoebos
11-12-2003, 02:55
I dread to think how many puppets you must have been through to create that...

Looks very comprehensive, though
Liverpool England
11-12-2003, 02:58
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=26675

That one is better. ;)

Bas: IRC. I'm leaving now though, and LH aint on. </ooc>
SalusaSecondus
11-12-2003, 02:58
Thanks for reminding me. We really need to force all to be answered.
Qaaolchoura
11-12-2003, 02:58
I dread to think how many puppets you must have been through to create that...

Looks very comprehensive, though

About threescore.
Qaaolchoura
11-12-2003, 03:01
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=26675

That one is better. ;)
Appes and oranges Bas.
The Basenji
11-12-2003, 03:02
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=26675

That one is better. ;)

Bas: IRC. I'm leaving now though, and LH aint on. </ooc>

I'll be on later, I have too many windows open now. :shock:
11-12-2003, 03:04
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=26675

That one is better. ;)

Bas: IRC. I'm leaving now though, and LH aint on. </ooc>

I'll be on later, I have too many windows open now. :shock:

UPDATE: LH is on now. Cya in a bit Bas.
Qaaolchoura
11-12-2003, 03:16
Thanks for reminding me. We really need to force all to be answered.
Please let that be a joke. :(
SalusaSecondus
11-12-2003, 03:17
Thanks for reminding me. We really need to force all to be answered.
Please let that be a joke. :(

Well, this really did remind me that I need to bring this to [violet]'s attention. What we do from there is up to them.
Qaaolchoura
11-12-2003, 03:18
How does this look?
______________________________________________
Greater Imperial Kingdom of Liverpool England,
non moderator
The Getting Help Page (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=help), Tech FAQ (Qaaolchoura) (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=81296), The Game FAQ (http://www.nationstates.net/pages/faq.html), View These Great Threads sticky (Nanakaland) (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=29774), The Concept of good RP/The Infamous IGNORE (TROUSRS) (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=79117), Nation Creation(+How to get UN Categories) **SPOILER ALERT** (Qaaolchoura) (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=102892) and FYI: What you should NOT post in International Incidents (AMF) (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97767&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=)
Whoa that has more code than Corinthes. :shock:

Niiiiice. (although I am suprised that Scolo's Sticky list isn't on there.)
Qaaolchoura
11-12-2003, 03:21
Well, this really did remind me that I need to bring this to [violet]'s attention. What we do from there is up to them.
But everything that you say that you will suggest to [violet] gets implemented, and not answering all of the questions is harmless. :|
SalusaSecondus
11-12-2003, 08:25
Yeah, but this won't be a recommendation, more a "Hey, this is what's going, do we want to allow it?"
1 Infinite Loop
11-12-2003, 10:02
*clap clap*
well looks like Qaa has figured out what I was talking about a while back,
I congradualte you Mr Bond, but it will be of no Use to you, you see, I have already set the explosives and soon Silicon valley will cease to be,
and I will control teh Microchip market, I Max Zorin!

May Day, Kill HIM!!
I have to go deliver a wrist watch to a kid.
[violet]
11-12-2003, 14:57
So that's why we're up to 96,000 active nations all of a sudden!
Qaaolchoura
11-12-2003, 22:24
]So that's why we're up to 96,000 active nations all of a sudden!
Well a score does equal 32,000 doesn't it? :wink:
Qaaolchoura
11-12-2003, 22:24
]So that's why we're up to 96,000 active nations all of a sudden!
Well a score does equal 32,000 doesn't it? :wink:
Qaaolchoura
11-12-2003, 22:25
]So that's why we're up to 96,000 active nations all of a sudden!
Well a score does equal 32,000 doesn't it? :wink:
Drakonian Imperium
11-12-2003, 22:34
{Tag; For Future Reference}
Qaaolchoura
13-12-2003, 01:36
*bumps thread*

I created a region with all of the UN categories in it and called it "The UN (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_region/region=The%20UN)"

I can now eject up to 27 nations from The UN. :P

Er- wait. . .

Does this mean that I might get deleted for having a nation in "the UN" plus 27 in "The UN"? :wink:
Unfree People
13-12-2003, 01:45
ROFL!

That is really, really neat, Qaaol...
SalusaSecondus
13-12-2003, 01:48
What a fascinating question. Let me get a GM in on this one. I don't have the authority to judge.

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/nationstates/salusasecondus/salusasecondus2.jpg
SalusaSecondus
Tech Modling
PGP: 0x0604DF3E
Qaaolchoura
13-12-2003, 04:04
ROFL!

That is really, really neat, Qaaol...
Thanks. :D

Er. . . my first four posts or "The UN"? :?
Unfree People
13-12-2003, 04:34
Um, both, although I did kind of already respond to the first four.
Qaaolchoura
13-12-2003, 04:46
Um, both, although I did kind of already respond to the first four.
Ahh, sorry, I'm tired and kinda outa it today (I've been losing some sleep with the time that I spend on this very addicting game :twisted: {and it's caught up with me})
Unfree People
13-12-2003, 04:51
I know what you mean. I should be studying for finals right now, but I'm on NS instead. :(
Qaaolchoura
13-12-2003, 04:56
I know what you mean. I should be studying for finals right now, but I'm on NS instead. :(
I have a trimester schedule and I had that problem with finals studying. About a half week before my first final I finally turned off my laptopr and piled stuff on top of it whenever I caught my self on NS.

It worked.
. . .up until I got to the papers that I had to type
Unfree People
13-12-2003, 05:17
. . .up until I got to the papers that I had to type Rofl, that's my problem, exactly. Some of the material I need to study is online, so I have to be on my computer, and somehow my mouse just happens to click the NS link... hehheh.
imported_Blab
13-12-2003, 08:13
Qaa, this thread is fantastic, especially the first four posts. Thanks.
Qaaolchoura
13-12-2003, 19:06
Qaa, this thread is fantastic, especially the first four posts. Thanks.
Thanks. :D Welcome.
Goobergunchia
13-12-2003, 19:09
. . .up until I got to the papers that I had to type Rofl, that's my problem, exactly. Some of the material I need to study is online, so I have to be on my computer, and somehow my mouse just happens to click the NS link... hehheh.

Same here. Unfortunately, the teachers at my school assign homework via the internet....
Emperor Matthuis
13-12-2003, 19:28
Great thread, it will help newbies who want to create a communist nation or a twisted nation so they will know how to, but how long did it take you on was a on going experiment of yours?

Emperor Matthuis
Qaaolchoura
14-12-2003, 02:34
Great thread, it will help newbies who want to create a communist nation or a twisted nation so they will know how to, but how long did it take you on was a on going experiment of yours?

Emperor MatthuisRoughly two dozen hours over a period on months, but most of it was done within the week or so before I posted it (the three days before I spent almost exclusivelyt plaing with puppets).

It would have been a lot quicker, except that I am using a wireless LAN with the router on the other side of the house, so it was slow, and I kept having to reboot to get the network working again. (ironically as soon as I finished it began working smoothly for the first time in months and still is, albeit a bit slower than normal).
Qaaolchoura
15-12-2003, 21:32
*bumps thread*

It has been two days, time for another bumping.
16-12-2003, 07:16
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16-12-2003, 21:30
this is cool. (and it works)
this should be added to the sticky list.
Qaaolchoura
18-12-2003, 00:52
*bumps thread*
it works.
Well of course, it works. :wink:

I ran dozens of experiments. :P
Qaaolchoura
25-12-2003, 17:41
Wow. :shock:

Now how did I let this sink to page 6? :? :evil:
Shee City
25-12-2003, 23:53
Wow. :shock:

Now how did I let this sink to page 6? :? :evil:

I'm surprised - thought this info was on another sticky somewhere?

SC
Qaaolchoura
25-12-2003, 23:59
Wow. :shock:

Now how did I let this sink to page 6? :? :evil:

I'm surprised - thought this info was on another sticky somewhere?

SC
Nope.

Never was.

The closest that you might come is a thread in the General forum back in the summer that had te results of each government type with all strongly disagree.

And another? :?

This itself isn't a 'sticky'. . .
Unfree People
27-12-2003, 23:06
This is one of those posts which*cough* would work better in a forum about gameplay, but since [violet] said that it is unlikely, I put it here
Can some nice mod move this now, since we do have such a forum? :D
Qaaolchoura
28-12-2003, 23:31
This is one of those posts which*cough* would work better in a forum about gameplay, but since [violet] said that it is unlikely, I put it here
Can some nice mod move this now, since we do have such a forum? :D
Indeed. I intend to ask in moderation.
Unfree People
29-12-2003, 00:19
Wonderful - I would have done that myself, but not being the thread starter, I just bumped it and let you (it was on the fourth page :?)
Qaaolchoura
29-12-2003, 01:01
Wonderful - I would have done that myself, but not being the thread starter, I just bumped it and let you (it was on the fourth page :?)Thank you. :D

As I was up in Maine for two and a half days, I should be grateful that it hadn't sunk even further. (Last time I was off for just two days it sunk sunk six pages)
Qaaolchoura
29-12-2003, 01:02
this should be added to the sticky list.
Now thanks to Sal, it has a sticky of it's own.
Roseway
29-12-2003, 04:21
Whoah! Cool!
Qaaolchoura
29-12-2003, 04:23
Whoah! Cool!
Thanks.
29-12-2003, 23:32
Well I got this nation's original stats (Anarchy, Superb, Powerhouse, Superb I think) from the Test Region...My choices for government was 'liberal,' so that may have messed up some things, but anyways:


Q1 - SD
Q2 - SA
Q3 - SA
Q4 - SD
Q5 - SD
Q6 - SD
Q7 - SA
Q8 -SD

:P
Qaaolchoura
29-12-2003, 23:48
Well I got this nation's original stats (Anarchy, Superb, Powerhouse, Superb I think) from the Test Region...My choices for government was 'liberal,' so that may have messed up some things, but anyways:


Q1 - SD
Q2 - SA
Q3 - SA
Q4 - SD
Q5 - SD
Q6 - SD
Q7 - SA
Q8 - SD

:P
I'm not sure what you are saying. :?

If you are trying to tell me how to accomplish a government type in other ways, I appreciate it, but as I mentioned in the beggining, it isn't going to help any since if I don't know it, I'm still going to run tests myself.

In the end, since some government types have way too many ways of getting to them, I'm going to write a formula.
The Zoogie People
31-12-2003, 18:33
I just ran another test based on this thread :) Thanks Qaaolchoura!
Qaaolchoura
31-12-2003, 18:38
I just ran another test based on this thread :) Thanks Qaaolchoura!
Ahh.

You're welcome.

'Course now I have some more stuff to do that I haven't yet gotten near around to doing.
07-01-2004, 14:59
Oh.

Didn't realise you could ignore the questions. Oh well, I've achieved Anarchy the hard way anyway (not this country, but The Free Land of The Rising Yellow Spot)
Tar A
08-01-2004, 05:45
Me too, I only recently became an Anarchy again after several weeks at Civil Rights Lovefest. However, what makes me mad is that I've never gotten good rankings, ever... even though I'm really high in each category.
Qaaolchoura
09-01-2004, 03:43
Me too, I only recently became an Anarchy again after several weeks at Civil Rights Lovefest. However, what makes me mad is that I've never gotten good rankings, ever... even though I'm really high in each category.
You need to satrt out with high rankings in some areas (PF and Liberalness for instance) in order to ever get them.
Carlemnaria
26-01-2004, 12:12
GETTING one doesn't seem al that unobvious
KEEPING one you choose to perceive as remotely desirable
other then by dissmissing all issues out of hand or just not choosing to get any (if that's an option, i don't remember if it is)
utterly defys my comprehension

(maybe this runs contrary to the spirit of it all
whatever THAT is, but i would really like to CHOOSE my nation's primary industries)

=^^=
.../\...
Tar A
26-01-2004, 16:11
Me too, I only recently became an Anarchy again after several weeks at Civil Rights Lovefest. However, what makes me mad is that I've never gotten good rankings, ever... even though I'm really high in each category.
You need to satrt out with high rankings in some areas (PF and Liberalness for instance) in order to ever get them.
That kind of sucks, though, I know I started as Inoffensive Centrist Democracy just to see if I could become an Anarchy. I was once in the 700s for Political Freedom, but it's since dropped way down.

Not to mention that I'm back at a bloody Civil Rights Lovefest :(
28-01-2004, 20:40
View These Great Threads sticky (Nanakaland) (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=29774)

:shock:
Why is one of my threads there? Am I that good?
Arkanstan
08-03-2004, 03:05
My nation is New York Times Democracy, can anybody tell me what that means?
Qaaolchoura
08-03-2004, 04:37
My nation is New York Times Democracy, can anybody tell me what that means?
It means that you have centrist social and economic freedoms and high political freedoms.

As Goober and Siri like to say:

>clicky-clicky (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=26675)<
Arkanstan
09-03-2004, 04:55
thnx!
Qaaolchoura
09-03-2004, 05:04
thnx!
Welcome. :wink:
16-05-2004, 11:33
wow, I didn't know you could ignore those questions.
Qaaolchoura
17-05-2004, 03:26
wow, I didn't know you could ignore those questions.
I didn't either, until I learned it from one of the Game Moderators. The spamiest moderator, is also probably the most puppet addicted.
Sye
21-05-2004, 08:08
TAG
The Holy Saints
12-06-2004, 06:06
BY JEEVES IT WORKS!!! thanks man, i finally made a nation i like:

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=achilleoptica
Luna Amore
17-06-2004, 06:00
Anarchaic: UN Category: Anarchy Civil Rights: World Benchmark Economy: Thriving Political Freedoms: World Benchmark

Libertarian: UN Category: Anarchy Civil Rights: Frightening Economy: Strong Political Freedoms: Corrupted

Just noticed that you have the effects of Anarchaic and Libertarian reversed.

Anarchaic should make Frightening/Strong/Corrucpted and

Libertarian should make World Benchmark/Thriving/World Benchmark.
Cogitation
09-08-2004, 14:44
I'm trying to reduce the total number of stickies in "Gameplay". As this is in Myrth's Big Gameplay Sticky List (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=302256) and is not, in my opinion, a topic on a critical matter, iUnsticky.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
Stonecoast
28-04-2005, 07:55
While I understand that this thread's primary purpose was to address how a nation's stats are created initially, I would like to suggest that links to place/country name generators be added, seeing as how this is the only significant guide to nation creation.

This one derives names from actual countries: http://nine.frenchboys.net/country.php
This makes fantasy names (That's how I got this one): http://nine.frenchboys.net/fantasyplace.php
Here is one that generates Elizabethan-esque names: http://www.people.virginia.edu/~nfp5e/elizabethan.html
Tuesday Heights
29-04-2005, 03:20
This thread has to do with nation creation in regards to UN categories, not the role-play aspect and characteristics of the given nation.
Stonecoast
02-05-2005, 00:42
This thread has to do with nation creation in regards to UN categories, not the role-play aspect and characteristics of the given nation.

Understood, but I think I speak for other potential NS players (who don't have a voice on the forums until they create a country) when I say that these few links would be quite helpful during the nation creation process. If I hadn't found those links, Lord knows what kind of incredibly unrealistic/"crappy" name I would have come up with for my country, and who wants to see more of those around here?

I know that inactive NS names will be purged in the comming weeks, but that only applies to nations older than 18 months, which I'm guessing is not that big a chunk of the 850,000+ inactive names.
Czardas
02-05-2005, 20:21
This is a useful thread...

...but it doesn't address some key issues. For example, why do some nation types turn up more than others? (For example, Inoffensive Centrist Democracy, Democratic Socialists, and Iron Fist Consumerists are a lot more prevalent than Iron Fist Socialists, Right-wing Utopia, and Libertarian Police State.)
Tocrowkia
02-05-2005, 20:29
Nice thread!
Alcalypse
10-05-2005, 13:09
Libertarian:
UN Category: Anarchy
Civil Rights: Frightening
Economy: Strong
Political Freedoms: Corrupted

And then I see "Libertarian Police State"

Do the game coders have any clue at all? I mean seriously people. Go check out LP.org and then read some Ayn Rand, and perhaps some works by the people in this list:

http://www.theadvocates.org/celebrities.html

Of especial importance are Murray Rothbard, Jan Narveson, Patrick Henry and Thomas Jefferson.

Seriously folks, I think what you think of libertarians is seriously twsited. :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:
Czardas
10-05-2005, 13:18
Libertarian:
UN Category: Anarchy
Civil Rights: Frightening
Economy: Strong
Political Freedoms: Corrupted

And then I see "Libertarian Police State"

Do the game coders have any clue at all? I mean seriously people. Go check out LP.org and then read some Ayn Rand, and perhaps some works by the people in this list:

http://www.theadvocates.org/celebrities.html

Of especial importance are Murray Rothbard, Jan Narveson, Patrick Henry and Thomas Jefferson.

Seriously folks, I think what you think of libertarians is seriously twsited. :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:"Libertarian Police State" just means that people are allowed to do practically whatever they want, except challenge the government.
Alcalypse
10-05-2005, 13:49
That's the problem, though.The whole premise of libertarianism is the challenging of the gov't.
Italia Major
19-06-2005, 16:12
Question: At the beginning of the game I picked a government type under the impression it could later be changed just like most the other catagories in the same section like motto, flag, animal, etc. Apparently this is not the case. I picked corrupt with a bit of humour to start but now it seems am attached at the hip to it. I am making very high allowances for all three levels of freedoms but seem to be stuck on inoffensive democracy.

The thing is that my country would be more of a libertarian or socialist had I been able to see the actual effects of government type. Is this holding back anything and is it possible to change? Please advise!

Corrupt: UN Category: Psychotic Dictatorship Civil Rights: Rare Economy: Weak Political Freedoms: Unheard Of
Ctstalin
06-07-2005, 07:35
so are u saying tat if u have done the survey, the government type can't be changed????

can the description of the country be changed btw??? :mad:
Tuesday Heights
06-07-2005, 07:41
so are u saying tat if u have done the survey, the government type can't be changed????

Answering survey just gives you your first government type. Answering issues is one way to change it. If you decide to join the UN, UN resolutions also affect your government type in conjunction with your issues.

can the description of the country be changed btw??? :mad:

Yes, it changes with how you answer your daily issues. Other than that, it cannot be changed.
Yesterdayland
09-07-2005, 01:44
It's pretty cool that I got into the category of "Iron Fist Socialists." My philosophy has been, keep them under control, keep them comfortable, and don't force them not to be deviant hippies. My Civil Rights category has gotten to be Excellent, so it's in my interests to keep it high. But I like the category I'm in.
Yesterdayland
09-07-2005, 13:43
But I'm already back to "Corrupt Dictatorship," which isn't quite as cool. It's unsurprising, since I've got a bit of a youth crime problem and my reaction was to try the punks as adults. Oh well, I'm sure I'm still near enough to the border that I'll cross it once more.
Raili
06-10-2007, 20:16
Conservative Democracy
Government Type: Conservative
Questions: SA 0 0 0 0 0 0 0


I tested this. It results in Tyranny by Majority.
Genius astuto
07-10-2007, 15:30
but how do you get a strong economy anyway?