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Hey, I had a blast in the Peanut Gallery for the Presidential debate, but I don't know how many people even care that we have Vice Presidents. I do think, however, that this will be a better debate.

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lets take bets on how many time cheney drops the f bomb and how many get past the censors, though them knowing they have cheney on they will probably have a delay on it

Once again I'm watching on C-SPAN (this time 2). No irratating commentators and if it's like last time split screen.

What, is this an essay contest? What are they writing?

Hey, I had a blast in the Peanut Gallery for the Presidential debate, but I don't know how many people even care that we have Vice Presidents. I do think, however, that this will be a better debate.

Here they go. Join in
Ah bugger, I'm going to miss some of this...

F-bombs would be great. Liven it up and make those who didn't watch feel like they missed something

She looked like she was trying to keep from laughing, I'll bet Edwards was making googly eyes...

Edwards was apparently one of the kids that had to be told "Pens down"

Hey Gwen

She relagetd inforcing the crowd rules to the wives of the candidates like Lehrer before her.

Are they afraid they're going forget the question?

Ah, the opening bell ass kiss

The makeup artists did a good job. You almost can't see Cheney's horns. ^_^

Kidding of course. Lets see how many times Cheney can mention 9/11!

I can't decide if edwards is dreamy or owes me lunch money

meh meh meh 9/11 meh meh meh iraq was supporting terrosits meh meh unrelated meh emeh iraq loves terrorists meh meh

Ass kiss II

OOOoooohhhh!! Direct adress!!

I'm pissed at both of them for thanking everyone. Meh. So fake.

Oh no, Edwards made the Iran/Iraq slip

the next Penguin = Dick Cheney
Edwards will be Robin

He's dreamy, lol.
I'm watching it with a bunch a bunch of people who refuse to let anyone comment :(

Evil old man, but yay! Edwards is on...

Straight onto the attack!

Cheney dodges the mention of losing more troops each month than the prior month.

I think this might be good once tempers start flaring. Edwards is a good speaker, but Cheney is really smart and can mention the key words in all the right places. It'll be a good one.

I'm not sure what was settled there...

This should be interesting to see who cracks first.....

the next Penguin = Dick Cheney
Edwards will be Robin

Lol, nice!

That hit the nail on the head there.

edwards talks with his hands

Fact Check.org didn't agree with this on the last debate.

Edwards made the Saddam/Osama slip.

Everybody has to drink whenever one of them says, "WMD, economy, security or war on terror."

Edwards has a nice "I'm talking straight to you" vibe in his speaking. And is it just me or did Cheney say "Terr"?

Keep on pounding the point home Edwards!

The Secretary of Defense and the 9/11 commission have both said it, there was no connection!

How long do you think file footage will be up where Cheney relates 9/11 to Iraq?

Edwards made the Saddam/Osama slip.


I think everybody has done that at least once.

oh man cheney brought up the opposing defense stuff, edwards is going to rip him a new one if he knows what hes doing, and he looks like he does

Everybody has to drink whenever one of them says, "WMD, economy, security or war on terror."
We'll get achohal poisoning!!

We'll get achohal poisoning!!
Not me, I'm underage. All I get to drink is water.

As much as I loathe Cheyney's existence, I really hope he doesn't rupture one of his clogged arteries on national TV. That would be bad for the country.

Not me, I'm underage. All I get to drink is water.
The liquor cabnet can't be that hard to break into...

Uhh...he didn't answer the question.

He's talking about the Afghanistan government, not getting Osama.

Uhh...he didn't answer the question.

He's talking about the Afghanistan government, not getting Osama.
ninjitsu art of decoy! *turns into a log*

Didn't he give this answer to the last question?

I thought he was supposed to tell us how to get Osama.

Hate to say it, but I think Edwards is gonna crack...

Ah, there's the global test again! Way to reiterate it Edwards!

Man, this is getting nasty

Jeez, did anyone else just hear Cheney say, "I never said there was a link between Saddam and Al Qeada"??

i cant help but laugh while looking at edwards talking, but its not a bad haha your a dumbass laugh like george bush its like you just look funny laugh

Didn't he give this answer to the last question?

I thought he was supposed to tell us how to get Osama.
That will be his answer to EVERY question. Fun with "talking points!" Yea!

I think Edwards is a little nervous. He's doing good, but he'll do much better if he relaxes.

Again, that makes me think that either Afganhistan produces a great deal of opium, or the world just doesn't smoke that much opium.

Jeez, did anyone else just hear Cheney say, "I never said there was a link between Saddam and Al Qeada"??

Yep, he definately said it.

Pressing the global test thing. Had to see that coming.

Yep, he definately said it.
Nice, so his entire argument is pointless. I better vote for him now :rolleyes:

Pressing the global test thing. Had to see that coming.
edwards is selling it like an chinese lady in an open market

That's how you answer a question and stay on topic! Nice solid answer there Edwards.

Edwards seems like Kerry's, I don't know, mother? He's just like John Kerry will not do that. At least Cheney seems like his own person.

These guys have better poker faces than George.

Except for John's faces he's making.....stop it.

$120 Billion, not $200 billion, it's still a lot of money.

Jesus Christ, Cheney is a fucking idiot... where is he getting these figures? What's his definition of "operations in Iraq" then?

That's how you answer a question and stay on topic! Nice solid answer there Edwards.
these people are going for the throat, but cheney has this bad habit of parroting bullshit, which is gonna sink his ship.

Flip-flop mention number one.

edwards is selling it like an chinese lady in an open market
"You buy now!"

Uhoh, he mentioned voting against supporting the troops. I hope Edwards calls Cheney on it.

I think Edwards is bombing.

does anyone notice the lady changes the subject everytime mentions kerry coming down on the wrogn side of defense. i know damn well edwards will rip him a new one on that topic, and the lady is seeming like she is purposefully denying edwards a response

these people are going for the throat, but cheney has this bad habit of parroting bullshit, which is gonna sink his ship.
There is nothing here to call Cheney on his shit, which is a strength for him.

On Sunday morning talk shows when they can play him tape of him saying what he just denied, that's when he falls apart. 90 minutes, say whatever bullshit you want.

When have weapon systems ever helped win the COLD WAR? I don't get it!

I think Edwards is bombing.
I'd like Cheney to stop bablling about a voting record and start facing up to his 4 year record of fucking messes.

Alright, call him on his shit! Do it, doit.

Cmon, call him on the body armor...

...

YAY, he's calling him on it!

Awesome!

these people are going for the throat, but cheney has this bad habit of parroting bullshit, which is gonna sink his ship.

I noticed that too. I was expecting more from him than that.

Why don't they get some balls and explain the whole voting for the war/against the equipment BS? Explain it on camera once and for all.!

oh man edwards just ripped cheneys aces out of his sleeve

does anyone notice the lady changes the subject everytime mentions kerry coming down on the wrogn side of defense. i know damn well edwards will rip him a new one on that topic, and the lady is seeming like she is purposefully denying edwards a response

Not anymore. Edwards got started.

"I think the record speaks for itself." Only when you cherry pick the damn votes you robot!

rofl cheney just lost his balls, his voice just died off, and he staleld at the start of his statement. he didnt think edwards was gonna put his balls in a vice grip

OOOOhhhhh!
The no-bid Halliburtaon Contract. There it is!

1/2 hour in, their getting heated. Cheney is keeping his cool a little better, but he's not getting as much bullshit thrown at him.

HE SAID THE 'H' WORD!!!!!

Cheny's pissed now.

who wants to bet he drops an f bomb before another half hour is up

You know what this reminds me of? The classic Good/Evil characters in cartoons that show up on your shoulders. Just the way they look, ignoring what they say.

That Cleveland line has got to burn

OH! Score! Calling him on sending them into war without proper equipment!

Bring up Poland, please bring up Poland....

I don't think Edwards has mentioned "Wrong war..." etc yet, it's all been Cheney.

And Cheney is dodging the attack again.

cheneys got nothing but "wrogn war wrong place wrong time" after edwards stole all his aces in the hole

Really? Maybe we shouldn't have demeaned everybody when we where looking for allies to begin with.

Bring up Poland, please bring up Poland....
Haha. That's the best thing Bush has ever said.

I think Cheney's getting frustrated...

Gettin' snippy

Cheney barely responds to the questions. He just reads from a script.

There you go - COALITION CASUALITIES

Nice bemused face on Edwards when Cheney is speaking

just give them both megaphones and ring a bell, they can have a shouting match

Counting "our Iraqi Allies" who have died? Would that include all the ones who died from Coalition bombing during the invasion?

15 minutes away from "Screw the moderator, we're going at it"

Edwards didnt get to respond when Cheney owned him on demaning the allies.
Sucks for him.

Oops, was that the buzzer we heard?

Haha. That's the best thing Bush has ever said.
dont forget Poland

Their voices, in my mind, have already melded together so I can't tell who's talking. I need some friggin' sleep.

Edwards better watch out for the chair Cheney's gonna throw at him...

Nice hammering on the points by Edwards

Edwards better watch out for the chair Cheney's gonna throw at him...
hes gonna drop the f bomb, i hope edwards is packing a bomb shelter in his jacket

Don't cover your mic Dick

Edwards didnt get to respond when Cheney owned him on demaning the allies.
Sucks for him.
Too bad our administration are the ones taking the piss out of our allies in reality. Actions speak louder than words.....

They've been doing this for the past few months. They're making Al-Zarqarwe into a new Osama/Saddam. They need a "bad guy" to go after, and they're using him for it.

does anyone know what the fuck cheney is talkngi about? is he ranting about classified info?

Making the weak assed Saddam was a terrorist rant -

Hope Edwards nails him on just that the old WMD shit

I still have to say that I think Cheney is being calmer. I wish he wasn't.

Oooooooh, THIS should be spectacular. She said the H word...

Too bad our administration are the ones taking the piss out of our allies in reality. Actions speak louder than words.....
When you're talking about "buiding coalitions" and such, words and attitudes count for plenty.

They've been doing this for the past few months. They're making Al-Zarqarwe into a new Osama/Saddam. They need a "bad guy" to go after, and they're using him for it.


exactly, they try to redirect the issue away from any substance

I still have to say that I think Cheney is being calmer. I wish he wasn't.
man i can feel the steam starting to pour from his ears, although there wasnt a "forrest fire" in his head like there was in bush's, if edwards was ripping bush a new one like he is doing to cheney he wouldve already broke down crying

Edward's still nervous I think. Cheney's got more experience in this kind of thing. He should relax soon (I hope).

I can't believe Cheney's going on about the UN after completely ignoring them on everything else.

They've been doing this for the past few months. They're making Al-Zarqarwe into a new Osama/Saddam. They need a "bad guy" to go after, and they're using him for it.
Yup. He's the new bad guy.
"And we're gonna get him!" - D.C.
"Um, what about bin Laden?" - me

He's not answering the freakin question!

Edit: Cheney isn't*

He's not answering the freakin question!

Edit: Cheney isn't*


No, but I think Edwards is

Iraq or Iran?

Iran. I see. As long as I still get to see their films. They're pretty good.

"There are 60 countries in Al Qaeda. How many are we going to invade?"
translates to "Fighting terrorism is too hard. Let's give up."

Cheney spoke out against the sanctions before he spoke out for them!!!

hahaha...

oh man edwards is trying to set cheney on fire with some kindling from the Halliburton tree

Oh, and you're not try to confuse voters Cheney? *rolls eyes*

Edwards needs to stop with those faces. The media will pounce

Ohhhhh, that was practically talk to the hand.

Did Cheney just bring up factcheck.org?

oh man, edwards railing on haliburton is in his element, but now hes got to rip them some more on iraq

Oh no here comes the personal story.

Ohhhhh, that was practically talk to the hand.

Did Cheney just bring up factcheck.org?
yep he said .com though

Isreal just pulled from Gaza? You guys are supposed to tell me these things...

Oo, calling out the Saudis.

They answer each one with "I'll go back to.." "Back to what he said..."

Oh no here comes the personal story.
It was a little cocker spaniel dog in a crate that he'd sent all the way from Texas....

And back to Halliburton.

"You can't talk about Halliburton because you've never been in the Senate to vote!!"

Did I miss the logic in this statement? Because I sure don't see any...

I want to go back to Halliburton by talking about the senate...

Well, I think Cheney just lost... He completely lost it over this Halliburton thing.

And he's overtime again.

Who's Winning?

Burn

Well I think VP is winning so far. Though I think both should have done the Presidential debate...they are better than who they are running with.

rofl edwards is operating on cheney with his own record and cheney is like your breaking my balls john breaking my balls

Lol. Nice jab Edwards. "I talked about it, he didn't!"

And every time Edwards slams Cheney, Cheney goes for "The record speaks for itself."

And that was beautiful. "I asked him about Isreal, even though you didn't speak much about it."

Criticism of Cheney's record goes unrebutted...oooh...

HAHA Edwards pulled the "You voted against old people" card.

And the moderator just dissed Edwards. Ouch.

Edwards!!

"You can't talk about Halliburton because you've never been in the Senate to vote!!"

Did I miss the logic in this statement? Because I sure don't see any...
Big assed cuban cigar smoke screen, eh

I'm not really seeing a clear winner right now. They've been slicing each other up.

"Before I respond to the current topic. I'm going to talk about the fact that Edwards didn't show up for votes."
Which is what EVERY Senator and Congressman, Republican or Democrat who is on the campaign trail does

Who's Winning?
cheney is staying as professional as possible but Edwards keeps ripping him a new one every time he brings up something about his or Kerry's record or Halliburton

Edwards looks so terribly excited that Cheney said "no child left behind"

What "will" the administration do to better the lives of low-income familys?

Cheney talks about head-start, when the topic is about jobs and poverty. Doh!

"Poverty can be solved if people get high-paying jobs"
Republican economic policy in a nutshell.

Back to being snippy.

Cheney talks about head-start, when the topic is about jobs and poverty. Doh!

And Edwards called him on it.

edwards looks like a kid in a candy store, which is just accentuated with him looking alot younger than he is

And Edwards called him on it.
the worst part is edwards called him on it BEFORE he broguht it up

And Edwards called him on it.
Making himself look stupid by implying education has nothing to do with jobs or poverty.

Good hit by Edwards about 4 million people going into poverty, and the first net job loss in 70 years.

Please don't tell me that those people dropped of the federal tax roles because they don't make any money anymore...

Please don't tell me that those people dropped of the federal tax roles because they don't make any money anymore...
Can't pay income tax if you don't have a job to get income from.

Yeah, anybody else remember the Lockbox?

(Yeah, I know it was Gore's thing, but they both promised to leave that money alone...)

Edwards seems to be calming down.

And now he's explaining their plan simply. I get it! Yay for simple explanations!

edwards is partly pulling this answer out of his ass, i debated alot like that during government class. i said alot of shit that sounded good but i just pulled it out of a combination of thin air and facts floatign around in my head

Edwards is now lying..Tax cuts....whatever lol

Well, in my opinion these two crazies seem to be pulling even, even if Cheney is making the hardest punches.

"Mr. Vice President, I don't think our country can take four more years of this!"

The entire room just clapped at that... :D

I forgot what I was going to say.

I'll just wait until something interesting happens.

oh hell

edwards is partly pulling this answer out of his ass,
....
i just pulled it out of ... facts floatign around in my head
Your head is up your ass?

Your head is up your ass?
yours apparently is.

I think Cheney's head is funny, whilst Edwards looks...not southern.

I hate to say this, but I work for a small business, and I find it hard to feel bad for the owner if taxes go up for her, when she's bitching about problems with her BRAND NEW POOL...

Cheney should know better than to put his mic that low so that we can hear him shuffle and his voice cutting off as he turns his head.

How in blazes does Cheney plan to cut down the defecit? He doesn't even mention it. Just says it'll happen, even with their planned tax cuts. Ahhh, my brain!

Cheney played the "not there to vote" card again...getting tiresome

I hate to say this, but I work for a small business, and I find it hard to feel bad for the owner if taxes go up for her, when she's bitching about problems with her BRAND NEW POOL...

Maybe she worked hard to get to where she is, and you haven't worked as hard as her. She took risks you weren't willing to take. That's why she has a pool and you don't.

Making himself look stupid by implying education has nothing to do with jobs or poverty.
Of course Education is important. Unfortunately, The No Child Left Behind Act is the most awful piece of legislation for American Children.
Ask anyone in the business of educating children.

Modify my mic comment, I noticed they put the mics on the side of the moderator so if they turn to each other they start to cut out. Clever.

Of course Education is important. Unfortunately, The No Child Left Behind Act is the most awful piece of legislation for American Children.
Ask anyone in the business of educating children.
I don't disagree.
However, what Edwards said was along the lines of "I thought the questions was about jobs and poverty. the VP was talking about education."
Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Maybe she worked hard to get to where she is, and you haven't worked as hard as her. She took risks you weren't willing to take. That's why she has a pool and you don't.
Or maybe she inherited the business from her Daddy, much like George Bush Junior inherited the presidency from his Daddy!

"I think the VP and his wife love their daughter."

Of course Education is important. Unfortunately, The No Child Left Behind Act is the most awful piece of legislation for American Children.
Ask anyone in the business of educating children.
He's got to get that point across, unfortunately he's only got two minutes max and he's got to defuse bombs.

Edwards is talking about the "Them and us" mentality. Unfortuneately, Edwards is one of them (neither is cheney for that matter), not us.

the moderator is OBVIOUSLY biased, yo ucan hear it in her tone and questions.

Maybe she worked hard to get to where she is, and you haven't worked as hard as her. She took risks you weren't willing to take. That's why she has a pool and you don't.
Bull shit. Wealth isn't a function of intelligence or industriousness. It's a function of circumstance and opportunity.

Or maybe she inherited the business from her Daddy, much like George Bush Junior inherited the presidency from his Daddy!

Actually, she married a rich guy who lets her run her business basically because she wants to. He pays for it, and if there are any really big decisions he makes them (or overrides her decisions). It's pretty much a fun little game for her.

Wealth isn't a function of intelligence or industriousness.
How many street bums do you think have PhDs?

Finally someone talks about the f'd up shit that happens to a commited gay/lesbian couple because they can't get the same piece of paper hetero's can get.

That's what it's about, not about them trying to f'with your marriage.

Edwards is talking about the "Them and us" mentality. Unfortuneately, Edwards is one of them (neither is cheney for that matter), not us.
which edwards stated at the beginning of the debate, you dont have to be part of "us" to support "us"

Edward's is talking in a way I can actually follow. Cheney tends to make me lose concentration as he flies around the topic.

How many street bums do you think have PhDs?
More than you'd think.

Of course Education is important. Unfortunately, The No Child Left Behind Act is the most awful piece of legislation for American Children.
Ask anyone in the business of educating children.
Truly - in NYC literally thousands of parents have tried to get their kids out of failing schools. There is nowhere to go. No Funding = No Chance

Did he just give up a responce to that?

Cheney just didn't respond to that question!

i can feel edwards sharpening up his rip-cheney-a-new-one knife

More than you'd think.
I like in Berkeley. We have plenty of PhDs and plenty of street bums. Funny how they tend not to overlap.

How many street bums do you think have PhDs?Most street bums are mentally challenged. And I'm not debating socialism in this thread.


Fuck Cheney and his references to New Mexico. He personally has treated us (I'm from NM) abysmally. Just fuck him...

Did he just give up a responce to that?

Cheney just didn't respond to that question!
I'm on a liberal college campus (I'm not crying wolf, it's Santa Cruz) and some people in another apartment cheered when that happened. I'm not sure why, but they did.

Did he just give up a responce to that?

Cheney just didn't respond to that question!

neither of them respond to questions constantly

"I think the VP and his wife love their daughter."
No doubt. But public policy positions are not necessarily one's personal view.

BTW - I think Bush is insane on this issue

OMG this is the exact thing i advocate for frivolous lawsuits

++

incomnig Checkers speech

How many street bums do you think have PhDs?
I'm not a street bum, but I'm borderline poverty. I'm smart enough to get a PhD, I just can't afford one.

Maybe she worked hard to get to where she is, and you haven't worked as hard as her. She took risks you weren't willing to take. That's why she has a pool and you don't.

I am in the process of getting my education, and working 35 hours a week while taking 12-14 hours a semester isn't exactly easy. I live with my brother, who is in the same situation. We pay all of our own bills (barely), our own food (barely), and can only go to school because we qualify for grants and subsidized loans, and in that respect we're lucky.

Even once I get my degrees (Bachelor's and Master's), there's no guarantee I'll get any kind of job, what with outsourcing of so many tech jobs. I'd call that risky. But I've got my dream, and I need the education to do that.

And when I'm rich, I won't mind paying a little more in taxes, so people like me will have a little more money to actually be comfortable, and be able to eat better than I do.

I like in Berkeley. We have plenty of PhDs and plenty of street bums. Funny how they tend not to overlap.
I've been homeless, neither fact refutes anything.

Edward's is talking in a way I can actually follow. Cheney tends to make me lose concentration as he flies around the topic.
Grat tactic - bury them with bull

I'm not a street bum, but I'm borderline poverty. I'm smart enough to get a PhD, I just can't afford one.
Scholarships exist. Plus lots of schools let you earn part of your graduate tuition if you TA for undergrad classes.

Well, the times Cheney does give a straight answer, he knows what he's talking about. For the most part.

Gah! Neither of them are disagreeing really on this question. MOVE ON! :rolleyes:

Scholarships exist. Plus lots of schools let you earn part of your graduate tuition if you TA for undergrad classes.
get back on topci, i dotn give a damn about your partisanship or the argument you started here, sthu and lets go back to the debate

I could practically hear Cheney scream when Edwards mentioned Halliburton again. Man, if looks could kill...

Hey Fat Rich People, nice quote

Well, the times Cheney does give a straight answer, he knows what he's talking about. For the most part.
It's a common tactic. He has a set of preprepared responses. When asked question, he picks one that has some relation to the question, and gives it, following a lead-in. That's why he tends to either give a complete response or evade the question.

Here comes the "Abstenence Education" speech.

Scholarships exist. Plus lots of schools let you earn part of your graduate tuition if you TA for undergrad classes.
Thanks, but who will raise my kids and pay my mortgage while I go to school?
It's a rhetorical question. Don't answer that. This isn't about me. It's about the debate.

I dig that Edwards underlines his notes.

NOOOO She said NOT in Africa and China....dammit....

cheney just fucking lost

he jsut went on for a minute on other countries on teh aids question which was SPECIFICALLY stated to be related ONLY to america, then he admitted he didnt know shit about the american aids problem.

Here comes the "Abstenence Education" speech.
Never mid, no more America. They both ignored the question.

Not more money! Here comes the... "where will that money come from?" from Cheney

dude... who's going to say AIDS research/prevention is wrong to fund?

Hey Fat Rich People, nice quote

^_^ Thank yee kindly.

cheney just fucking lost

he jsut went on for a minute on other countries on teh aids question which was SPECIFICALLY stated to be related ONLY to america, then he admitted he didnt know shit about the american aids problem.
They've BOTH done that before.

Technical difficulties...

republicans will

and edwards isnt much more on topic, but he is alot more on it tha cheney especially with the "uhh i didnt know those figures but i thought we were doing a good job in america withe the billions of dollars we are spending on other countries for aids" man fuck other countries

neither of them respond to questions constantly
Given what question that was...Cheney just rolled on it.

factcheck.org is going to have to move to a bigger server tonight....

Long resume =/= good judgement! Woo, that's a nice sound bite there.

Wait a sec. stop them BEFORE they start? Doesn't that support Bush/Cheney? NOOOO... The prevention stuff is bad... :(

is it just me or do conservatives have some backward ass ideas? lets spend billions of dollars to give free medicla coverage to people in OTHER COUNTRIES and spend billions to give pay raises to cops IN OTHER FUCKING COUTNRIES. but in america, god help us if the government spends money on health care. man fuck other countries, we should not be supporting them over us in these areas

How did we get back to terrorism?

Oh, the heartbeat away thing...

factcheck.org is going to have to move to a bigger server tonight....
Bet ya dollar they crashed about 20 seconds after Cheney mentioned them.

Hey, I had a blast in the Peanut Gallery for the Presidential debate, but I don't know how many people even care that we have Vice Presidents. I do think, however, that this will be a better debate.

Here they go. Join in

I stopped watching 20 minutes in. I used to like Cheney. Now I can't stand either Chimney or Little John.

But I did like how Big John trampled Dubya in the first debate. I thought it was quite funny how Kerry did more damage to himself then Bush did.

I still cant decide though. Which pair is the greater evil?

*sigh* Politics.

That was actually a good answer....got to give it up.

is it just me or do conservatives have some backward ass ideas? lets spend billions of dollars to give free medicla coverage to people in OTHER COUNTRIES and spend billions to give pay raises to cops IN OTHER FUCKING COUTNRIES. but in america, god help us if the government spends money on health care. man fuck other countries, we should not be supporting them over us in these areas
Amen to that!
It boggles my mind.
:headbang:

he's been in for four years and demonstrated he can't do his fucking job.

who has the john stewart quote again? :rolleyes:

Cheney says Bush has the strength, determination, etc, to win the war on terror...which Bush has said may be unwinnable! Is it just me or is that a slip?

I stopped watching 20 minutes in. I used to like Cheney. Now I can't stand either Chimney or Little John.

But I did like how Big John trampled Dubya in the first debate. I thought it was quite funny how Kerry did more damage to himself then Bush did.

I still cant decide though. Which pair is the greater evil?

*sigh* Politics.
Well, we already know Bush & Co. are liars and warmongers. If nothing else that is worth the nay vote.

Bet ya dollar they crashed about 20 seconds after Cheney mentioned them.
Or the squatter that was sitting on factcheck.com...

"Without mentioning his name" jackass!
It's the first freaking thing he did!

I want to hear them talk about Bush's damn resume here.

Oh wait, then everyone would realize what a failure they (didn't) vote into office...

who has the john stewart quote again? :rolleyes:

I don't know what quote you're thinking of, but I know I plan to get my post-debate coverage from The Daily Show. They had the best coverage after the last debate.

Finally stopped covering his mic.

Cheney says Bush has the strength, determination, etc, to win the war on terror...which Bush has said may be unwinnable! Is it just me or is that a slip?
No, it's doublespeak.

edwards has kerry's name burned into his brain. :D

I don't know what quote you're thinking of, but I know I plan to get my post-debate coverage from The Daily Show. They had the best coverage after the last debate.
This time we'll have to wait 'til tommorrow.

Damn, you suck at this game John. Don't say the name.

Edwards said Kerry's name. Twice. Let's point and laugh.

Or the squatter that was sitting on factcheck.com...
NS LMAO!

Edwards said Kerry's name. Twice. Let's point and laugh.
I did...

WAAAHHHHH!!!! Not the flipflop nonsense......

Oo, flip floppin topic. Lets take a look at this.

Make this burn

Yay Edwards! Way to call the Bush administration on it's own flipflopping! Turn the term on them.

Huh, Cheney underlines too

I don't know what quote you're thinking of, but I know I plan to get my post-debate coverage from The Daily Show. They had the best coverage after the last debate.
NS - The real coverage begins & ends with The Today Show. Great writers, eh?

Edwards said Kerry's name. Twice. Let's point and laugh.At least he didn't say it in his very first sentence - unlike Cheney.

idiotr keeps saying kerry's name, see this is what happens when he relaxes, at least he isnt a complete moron like bush.

we can't take the high road on flip-flopping? right decision for that point in time?

wow every line of rhetoric in one sentence, some one toss a cheny a cracker

Cheney's bringing up ideas that Edwards nailed earlier. The $87 billion bill for example. Yeesh. I hope Edwards calls him on it again.

Well, we already know Bush & Co. are liars and warmongers. If nothing else that is worth the nay vote.

Kerry and Edwards claim to have supported going to war against both Afganistan and Iran (even if "doing it a bit differently in Iraq"). Does that make them warmongers as well?

BAH! I say!

They are all liers, warmongers, mudslingers, overspenders. I believe the collective term is politicians.

Well, maybe that is a bit unfair. There are a few politicians I like. Unfortionately, none of these big four qualify.

We need McCain...or maybe Powell.

30 seconds to nail the 'for it against it' thing, come on.