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The oldest conspiracy theory here, this one even predates me. Is [violet] Max Barry?

*takes a drag*

A fairly pertinent thread on the topic is this one (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=44769&start=0) Its currently 53 pages long, and if you ever ask a moderator about whether Max is [violet], they will almost undoubtably direct you to this thread. Anyone who has watched the British TV series "Yes Minister" will recognise this tactic: burying you with useless information to sap your will to discover the truth.

So lets ignore that thread, and instead blindly follow my lead as I indulge in hearsay and conjecture.

First of all, a piece of evidence against. Max, as you would assume from the name, is male. [violet] is usually referred to as "she". Naturally of course, this could just be a ploy.

Kandarin, in the thread I linked to before, sums up my next point pretty clearly

I think it makes more sense to think that [dredd], the more tech-based, less people-based admin, is Max Barry.

Yes Kandarin, it does make sense. Which should be your first clue as to why you're wrong. If only it were that simple. Examine the moderator sticky. (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=102087) Listed as a retired mod but with an admin title: [mantle]. The first admin. [violet] is the second. [dredd] is a third. Now the idea of [dredd] being Max is thrown completely askew. We have three admin positions instead of two, so simple deduction fails us, and we end up back at square one.

I leave you to contemplate this, and will return with more information as and when I have it.

*takes a drag and leaves*

I seem to recall that [mantle] is/was the ex-nation Grated Cheese.

Yup. [mantle] was a forum moderator.

[dredd] was already proved to not be Max Barry

Yup. [mantle] was a forum moderator.Its truely terrible Sirocco, just how deep they got to you. Why, on the previous thread on this topic, you are one of the people most eager to know, most willing to guess and be wrong, as to the identity of [violet]. You came closer to the truth than anyone else... and then they bought your silence with a modship.

*chuckles with a malignant glee*

Yup. [mantle] was a forum moderator.Its truely terrible Sirocco, just how deep they got to you. Why, on the previous thread on this topic, you are one of the people most eager to know, most willing to guess and be wrong, as to the identity of [violet]. You came closer to the truth than anyone else... and then they bought your silence with a modship.

/me breaks down in laughter.

--The Jovial States of Cogitation

The proper location for this debate is here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=44769&start=0)

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SalusaSecondus
Tech Moding/Game Admin

The proper location for this debate is here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=44769&start=0)

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SalusaSecondus
Tech Moding/Game AdminOh Sal, I'll get to you soon enough. I think you will appreciate the level of detail.

Zeppistan's quotes are from the General forum version of this thread.

I'm disappointed Smoking Man. Such a simplistic analysis based on public information. Surely you cannot for one second believe that such a conspiracy would have been hidden in such a manner? Have you not looked into the shadows for the answer to this riddle? Ironic... it is indeed in the shadows that the final answer to this was revealed to me... well, we'll get there soon enough


Max Berry
Red Arrow

Same number of letters in each name. The telltale double-r in both last names. A little ego slipped in there methinks....


Zeppistan, don't you feel that is rather redundant, given that max barry = 8 letters and [violet] = 8 letters? No, the identity of Max Barry will be revealed to those who can read between the lines, but not before the big reveal.


Back on topic. With great personal difficulty, using a telephoto lens and forged Forum 7 security pass, I have managed to obtain a picture of [violet]:
http://z-builder.com/manga/eden/soph.jpg

This is claimed to be a picture of Max Barry: http://www.vjbooks.com/images/authorpics/BarryMax.jpg

Now, clearly these are not the same people. But, as a player may have many puppets, an admin may have many faces.

Puppets... now thats an interesting point. Common knowledge, as well as Max himself says that Max used to play as the nation Maxtopia, but was inundated with telegrams, so allowed it to die. He now claims to play in secret. If this is true, then surely he could not be [violet], the speculation is too great. But wait. [violet] has no nation, and therefore no way to be telegrammed. The standard link, reproduced below, takes you back to your own nation.

www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=[violet]

So, in fact, Max could be [violet], as although [violet] is well known, you can't telegram her.

On the news page, under the Jolt announcement

I no longer have to juggle kittens on the streets of Melbourne to pay my bandwidth bills.

Anyone who's spent any time in the region Forum 7 (www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_region/region=forum_7) will know the significane of kittens.

I still need a little more time... I'll get back to you all.

*takes a drag and disappears*

Mr.Smoking Man, are you Max Barry?

*Prays that nation is not DEATED, looks around for assasins and black helicopters*

on the returns to sender thing i just discovered that you can telegram yourself but you cant endorse yourself

Mr.Smoking Man, are you Max Barry?

*Prays that nation is not DEATED, looks around for assasins and black helicopters*

OMG, is it true?

Well can we say for sure that Max Berry is listed as a mod or admin.?

I like the conspiracy theory though.

Of course not....there are lots of verbal....er written mistakes that as much as give it away IMO, I'll find links later, at the moment I should probably study for my accursed Algebra exam.....


*simplifies radical expressions*

VINMB. :roll:

How do I know, you ask? It's because........ *gasp* UPIV!!!

Ask anyone on IRC, they'll tell you it's true ;)

Well, aren't berry's usually blue/violet in colour? -.-

VINMB. :roll:

How do I know, you ask? It's because........ *gasp* UPIV!!!

Ask anyone on IRC, they'll tell you it's true ;)
we wants that title :P

Anyone who's spent any time in the region Forum 7 (www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_region/region=forum_7) will know the significane of kittens.

I still need a little more time... I'll get back to you all.

*takes a drag and disappears*gasp

Lol, you make the best threads Smoking Man.

However, I think that none of the admin are Max...they are all seperate people.

However, I think that none of the admin are Max...they are all seperate people.What makes you think that CE?

Take a look at Cottonisking's posts in the stickied[violet]=max barry thread in Technical. They have all been deleted. Cottonisking was my main nation. They DEATed me because I know the truth...
Those posts were the truth. The deleted the posts, because they dont want the truth to come out. THEY are coming for you. They DEATed me because I knew the truth. Remember how the modded Tactical Grace because he knew? Yea, they modded him to keep the truth "in", but they could not mod me. They hate me. Because I know more. They could not mod me, but they could delete me. So they did. They thought they could silence me, but NO! I am here, and I know the truth. I will not divulge my secrets, for I would be DEATed again, and then IP banned. We are living in a world of secrets, of darkness. The truth is hidden, inside you, inside me, inside the walls of Forum 7, inside us all...

Yup. [mantle] was a forum moderator.Its truely terrible Sirocco, just how deep they got to you. Why, on the previous thread on this topic, you are one of the people most eager to know, most willing to guess and be wrong, as to the identity of [violet]. You came closer to the truth than anyone else... and then they bought your silence with a modship.

Maybe its Charles Thiesen! (The guy Jennifer Government is dedicated to.)

This is it. You were so close, or maybe you had it, and they modded you to prevent you from getting any closer and divulging any secrets...

I must say, with all due respect, that this thread is under the threat of being spammed. Spamming is the best way to destroy a conspiracy thread, and yet the moderators are the ones who control spamming. Convenient, no?

I do hope the mods throw us a bone, acknowledge that the truth is out there, and archive this thread after it dies.

And it will die, as all the threads like this do...

Because the truth was near.

By the way, in the NS Bible thread, a moderator referred to [violet] as a he, and never corrected their post even after it was pointed out. Maybe not all of them are controlled and leashed. I won't link it, as that would bring about the most unpleasent... consequences from the mods.

<---Wishes they were a mod... but not, whatsoever, because they wanted to know who Max Barry was. Not at all...

Perhaps, just perhaps, MBIMB.

:shock:

Perhaps, just perhaps, MBIMB.

:shock:

*breaks out of mysterious character*

In a completely unrelated matter... I figured it out!

*goes to telegram mods*

Yes, I am serious.

If only my telegrams worked.

I knew i was on track when i said Max was a fgment of our mimagination who was helping the martian invasion :shock:

I think quite clearly, the question is not "Is Max Barry [violet]?", but "Does Max Barry exist at all?"

In a conversation with me that was unfortunately deleted when the fake Forum 7 was removed, SalsuaSecondus implied that Max Barry was the NationStates equivilent of Emmanual Goldstein, a character from George Orwell's 1984 who existance is... questionable, but is maintained as a fictional enemy for the populace. (A similar thing is going on in America with Osama Bin Laden). Goldstein is a necessary fiction, he has to exist so that Big Brother has a nemesis, so that the society is always at war. Sal's implication was that the same is true on NationStates, and that a plausible backstory is needed to provide structure, reason, a purpose for NationStates.

A lie. Sal, normally so honest and upfront, is deliberately misleading me. It was another passing referance that he made which revealed this to me... but I admit, I wasn't sure why. So I flew to Washington, and went to see an old friend of mine.


Our Meeting (www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_region/region=underground_parking_lot)

The contents of the envelope are... disturbing to say the least. Two photographs, of the same person. In one of them he is wearing a mask.


Click here to open the envelope (http://www.imagepilot.com/img.dll?x=20040612_12:35:23_SSMB.JPG)


MB = SS!

*chuckles to herself*

What you fail to realize, Smoking Man, is that Max cannot be a normal administrator, no matter the powers or the cost. Max, as an author, has an almost pathlogical need to be with the "common folk" and get inside their heads. A strange disease most authors have, unfortunately. But that is another story.

Yet authors, are, in the end, obsessed with themselves, as his website proves. Obviously, Max Barry is a player who would mention Max Barry a lot, who would sometimes poke fun at himself and the moderators, and deliberately spread rumors and myth, and... I can't let the last clue slip, it is too important. Lindim might... dissappear.

*slids back into shadows, shaking head sadly*

I'll let the implications sink in, for those who haven't grasped the truth yet, and no, it is not the obvious choice. Lies within lies, all returning to the original lie. Perhaps I myself am deliberately misleading you. Who knows?

EDIT: The photographs do present a challenge to my theory and investigation, but I still have the facts on my side...

The photograph's though, do have a remarkable similarity. More guile by the conspiracy?