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15-03-2004, 06:33
It was locked because I am not allowed to say anything bad about Europeans or the left. :roll:
15-03-2004, 06:34
I dunno.. probably because it was blatant flamebait.

Not like that's ever an excuse for locking threads these days...
Monkeypimp
15-03-2004, 06:35
It was locked because the mods are sick of people posting articles like that. If you have a point to make, make it and where possible, back it up with an article.

What you did was known as 'Red Arrowing'
Sydia
15-03-2004, 06:35
Because it was stupid. I'm sure pulling troops out of Iraq and not being Bush's lackey is just what Bin Laden wants.
:roll:

Hate breeds hate.
15-03-2004, 06:36
I dunno.. probably because it was blatant flamebait.

Not like that's ever an excuse for locking threads these days...


I wasn't happy with the way Spain acted after the terrorist attacks, and I have a right to be!
Tactical Grace
15-03-2004, 06:36
I dunno.. probably because it was blatant flamebait.
Thank you. I couldn't have put it better myself. :)

[Gives Raysia a cookie]
HotRodia
15-03-2004, 06:36
Why didn't you put this in the Moderation forum?
15-03-2004, 06:37
Because it was stupid. I'm sure pulling troops out of Iraq and not being Bush's lackey is just what Bin Laden wants.
:roll:

Hate breeds hate.


Pulling troops out of Iraq will lead to more problems!
15-03-2004, 06:37
I dunno.. probably because it was blatant flamebait.

Not like that's ever an excuse for locking threads these days...


I wasn't happy with the way Spain acted after the terrorist attacks, and I have a right to be!go ahead.

Unfortunately.. this happens to be a left-leaning forum... so most of the mods will lock what they don't like...
Kernlandia
15-03-2004, 06:37
grace had every right to lock it. read the rules, if you really want to know.
15-03-2004, 06:37
It was locked because the mods are sick of people posting articles like that. If you have a point to make, make it and where possible, back it up with an article.

What you did was known as 'Red Arrowing'



I posted an article and said what I wanted to say!
Stephistan
15-03-2004, 06:38
I personally didn't lock it.. but I can guess it was locked for it only being an article. We have been cracking down on people only posting an article instead of thinking.. if you have an argument to make.. make it.. please don't post an article to make it for you.

Thanks!
Stephanie
Game Moderator
15-03-2004, 06:39
I dunno.. probably because it was blatant flamebait.

Not like that's ever an excuse for locking threads these days...


I wasn't happy with the way Spain acted after the terrorist attacks, and I have a right to be!go ahead.

Unfortunately.. this happens to be a left-leaning forum... so most of the mods will lock what they don't like...


Left-Leaning, that is sad! What happened to Liberals support freedom of speech!
Zeppistan
15-03-2004, 06:39
I dunno.. probably because it was blatant flamebait.

Not like that's ever an excuse for locking threads these days...


I wasn't happy with the way Spain acted after the terrorist attacks, and I have a right to be!

Ahhh, so now other countries have to react the way you want them too when THEY get attacked too?!

Sheesh!

:roll:
15-03-2004, 06:39
My interpretation of what Spain's response to Terror is:

http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/screwyall.jpg
Tactical Grace
15-03-2004, 06:40
grace had every right to lock it. read the rules, if you really want to know.
Yep. Had it been called "More Proof That Americans Are Stupid!" I would have done exactly the same. And in the past, I have.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator
15-03-2004, 06:40
I dunno.. probably because it was blatant flamebait.

Not like that's ever an excuse for locking threads these days...


I wasn't happy with the way Spain acted after the terrorist attacks, and I have a right to be!

Ahhh, so now other countries have to react the way you want them too when THEY get attacked too?!

Sheesh!

:roll:


They should be ashamed of themselves! They have now bowed down to terrorism!
15-03-2004, 06:41
Zapatero's first thought after winning was to remember those killed in Thursday's attack and to pledge his immediate priority would be "fighting terrorism."

Don't be so quit to jumps to conclusions. I doubt if the Spanish will now say... nevermind, we're not going to play any more. A-Q has put the new socialist gov't in a difficult position. After the shock passes, the Spanish people will want pay-back.
15-03-2004, 06:41
My interpretation of what Spain's response to Terror is:

http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/screwyall.jpg


LOL! They got scared! Terrorist will win when they know they can scare you!
15-03-2004, 06:41
We have been cracking down on people only posting an article instead of thinking.. if you have an argument to make.. make it.. please don't post an article to make it for you. :shock: WOW! THANKS!
15-03-2004, 06:42
Zapatero's first thought after winning was to remember those killed in Thursday's attack and to pledge his immediate priority would be "fighting terrorism."

Don't be so quit to jumps to conclusions. I doubt if the Spanish will now say... nevermind, we're not going to play any more. A-Q has put the new socialist gov't in a difficult position. After the shock passes, the Spanish people will want pay-back.


No they won't, they will run and hide.
Sydia
15-03-2004, 06:42
Because it was stupid. I'm sure pulling troops out of Iraq and not being Bush's lackey is just what Bin Laden wants.
:roll:

Hate breeds hate.


Pulling troops out of Iraq will lead to more problems!

Decreased Spanish involvement in the Middle East will decrease the amount of hatred for the west, and thus decrease the amount of nutters willing to blow themselves up.

In faact, if the US left the Middle East alone (particularly Israel!) I doubt Bin Laden would get anywhere.

"Take up arms against America!"
"Why?"
15-03-2004, 06:44
Because it was stupid. I'm sure pulling troops out of Iraq and not being Bush's lackey is just what Bin Laden wants.
:roll:

Hate breeds hate.


Pulling troops out of Iraq will lead to more problems!

Decreased Spanish involvement in the Middle East will decrease the amount of hatred for the west, and thus decrease the amount of nutters willing to blow themselves up.

In faact, if the US left the Middle East alone (particularly Israel!) I doubt Bin Laden would get anywhere.

"Take up arms against America!"
"Why?"


Liberals. :roll:


Bin Laden wants a worldwide Islamic state, your lack of knowledge is scary.
Kernlandia
15-03-2004, 06:45
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Liberals. :roll:


Bin Laden wants a worldwide Islamic state, your lack of knowledge is scary.

your lack of proof or anything but general assumptions is scary.
15-03-2004, 06:46
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Liberals. :roll:


Bin Laden wants a worldwide Islamic state, your lack of knowledge is scary.

your lack of proof or anything but general assumptions is scary.


Maybe if you read up on Bin Laden you would know the facts. Go ahead, let the terrorists win.
Sydia
15-03-2004, 06:47
Because it was stupid. I'm sure pulling troops out of Iraq and not being Bush's lackey is just what Bin Laden wants.
:roll:

Hate breeds hate.


Pulling troops out of Iraq will lead to more problems!

Decreased Spanish involvement in the Middle East will decrease the amount of hatred for the west, and thus decrease the amount of nutters willing to blow themselves up.

In faact, if the US left the Middle East alone (particularly Israel!) I doubt Bin Laden would get anywhere.

"Take up arms against America!"
"Why?"


Liberals. :roll:


Bin Laden wants a worldwide Islamic state, your lack of knowledge is scary.

America, the only country where the word "liberal" is an insult.

My point is the people wouldn't care about what Bin Laden wanted if they had no reason to. Look at US involvement in the Middle East! I've said it once and I'll say it again; Hate breeds hate. Think about it.
Stephistan
15-03-2004, 06:47
My interpretation of what Spain's response to Terror is:

http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/screwyall.jpg

Listen, if you think the people of Spain voted out their government because of the week-end bombings, then you haven't been paying attention to world opinion. Over 90% of the population of Spain was against supporting the U.S. in their trumped up war on Iraq. Their government didn't listen to the people. That's how democracy works. When you defy the will of your people they have the right to vote you out of office. The same will happen to Blair. One can only hope the same will happen to Bush for starting the whole fiasco in the first place.

You had the good will of the world after 9/11. We all supported you in going after bin Laden. When Bush used 9/11 to go after Iraq that's when we paused. Iraq was no threat to any one. He hadn't been in some time. The US broke international law by unilaterally going into Iraq with the objective of regime change. Excuse the rest of the world for following the treaties we sign. In case you don't know.. the US is also a signatory member of said international laws.

So, don't get your panties in a bunch because a democratic society spoke!
Kernlandia
15-03-2004, 06:48
maybe you would care to post these facts here with citations to prove you didn't make them up. and have these facts be from a variety of sources and a variety of biases.

yeah, because that'll ever happen.
15-03-2004, 06:48
No they won't, they will run and hide.

You know little of the Spanish character. They have to grieve first... the US did the same when it was brutally attacked. It is now a matter of honor with the Spanish.
Zeppistan
15-03-2004, 06:49
I dunno.. probably because it was blatant flamebait.

Not like that's ever an excuse for locking threads these days...


I wasn't happy with the way Spain acted after the terrorist attacks, and I have a right to be!

Ahhh, so now other countries have to react the way you want them too when THEY get attacked too?!

Sheesh!

:roll:


They should be ashamed of themselves! They have now bowed down to terrorism!

Ah yes.... that would explain the quote:

Zapatero's first thought after winning was to remember those killed in Thursday's attack and to pledge his immediate priority would be "fighting terrorism."


Clearly terrorism is not an issue with the new government.

:roll:

Side note: In case you've forgotten, any supposed link between Iraq and Al Qaeda was even more tenuous than the non-existant WMD. You can keep calling it the war on terror if you like, but at best Iraq was an attack on a possible threat to regional interests.

So if Spain wants to refocus on the real enemy - I think that makes them pretty damn smart!

-Z-
Kernlandia
15-03-2004, 06:49
come on celestial underground, post them.
15-03-2004, 06:49
Because it was stupid. I'm sure pulling troops out of Iraq and not being Bush's lackey is just what Bin Laden wants.
:roll:

Hate breeds hate.


Pulling troops out of Iraq will lead to more problems!

Decreased Spanish involvement in the Middle East will decrease the amount of hatred for the west, and thus decrease the amount of nutters willing to blow themselves up.

In faact, if the US left the Middle East alone (particularly Israel!) I doubt Bin Laden would get anywhere.

"Take up arms against America!"
"Why?"


Liberals. :roll:


Bin Laden wants a worldwide Islamic state, your lack of knowledge is scary.

America, the only country where the word "liberal" is an insult.

My point is the people wouldn't care about what Bin Laden wanted if they had no reason to. Look at US involvement in the Middle East! I've said it once and I'll say it again; Hate breeds hate. Think about it.


UGH!!!!!

You people just don't listen!!!!! Bin Laden wants a worldwide Islamic state! The terrorists won't stop if we leave them alone! They will continue until Islam takes over the world!
Tactical Grace
15-03-2004, 06:50
So, don't get your panties in a bunch because a democratic society spoke!
Steph, Steph, Steph, don't you see, the Americans don't want a democratic society. They want strong, firm leadership, an unregulated corporate sector and an aggressive foreign policy.
Kernlandia
15-03-2004, 06:50
WHERE'S THE PROOF?!?!??!?

and you wonder why we don't listen to you.
Kernlandia
15-03-2004, 06:51
So, don't get your panties in a bunch because a democratic society spoke!
Steph, Steph, Steph, don't you see, the Americans don't want a democratic society. They want strong, firm leadership, an unregulated corporate sector and an aggressive foreign policy.

and it's a damn shame.
15-03-2004, 06:51
No they won't, they will run and hide.

You know little of the Spanish character. They have to grieve first... the US did the same when it was brutally attacked. It is now a matter of honor with the Spanish.


I have seen their Character and it pisses me off.
Sydia
15-03-2004, 06:52
Because it was stupid. I'm sure pulling troops out of Iraq and not being Bush's lackey is just what Bin Laden wants.
:roll:

Hate breeds hate.


Pulling troops out of Iraq will lead to more problems!

Decreased Spanish involvement in the Middle East will decrease the amount of hatred for the west, and thus decrease the amount of nutters willing to blow themselves up.

In faact, if the US left the Middle East alone (particularly Israel!) I doubt Bin Laden would get anywhere.

"Take up arms against America!"
"Why?"


Liberals. :roll:


Bin Laden wants a worldwide Islamic state, your lack of knowledge is scary.

America, the only country where the word "liberal" is an insult.

My point is the people wouldn't care about what Bin Laden wanted if they had no reason to. Look at US involvement in the Middle East! I've said it once and I'll say it again; Hate breeds hate. Think about it.


UGH!!!!!

You people just don't listen!!!!! Bin Laden wants a worldwide Islamic state! The terrorists won't stop if we leave them alone! They will continue until Islam takes over the world!

And you would know this...how?
15-03-2004, 06:52
So, don't get your panties in a bunch because a democratic society spoke!
Steph, Steph, Steph, don't you see, the Americans don't want a democratic society. They want strong, firm leadership, an unregulated corporate sector and an aggressive foreign policy.



:roll:
Kernlandia
15-03-2004, 06:53
No they won't, they will run and hide.

You know little of the Spanish character. They have to grieve first... the US did the same when it was brutally attacked. It is now a matter of honor with the Spanish.


I have seen their Character and it pisses me off.

way to be tolerant. way to be accepting of the world's different cultures.
15-03-2004, 06:54
WHERE'S THE PROOF?!?!??!?

and you wonder why we don't listen to you.


You are going to think whatever you want, no amount of proof I give you will change your mind.
15-03-2004, 06:55
No they won't, they will run and hide.

You know little of the Spanish character. They have to grieve first... the US did the same when it was brutally attacked. It is now a matter of honor with the Spanish.


I have seen their Character and it pisses me off.

way to be tolerant. way to be accepting of the world's different cultures.


I have a very Liberal outlook on things.
15-03-2004, 06:55
I have never seen anything on OBL and A-Q advocating a world-wide Islamic state. It was recently reported in the news media that Hamas and IJ representatives DID make such statements in press releases. I even saw reports on CBC and BBC covering the story.
Chikyota
15-03-2004, 06:55
WHERE'S THE PROOF?!?!??!?
and you wonder why we don't listen to you.
You are going to think whatever you want, no amount of proof I give you will change your mind. Of course we aren't going to change our minds with you making baseless accusations without dragging up even a shred of evidence to support your argument. Have you no sense, or just no debating skills?
Sydia
15-03-2004, 06:55
No they won't, they will run and hide.

You know little of the Spanish character. They have to grieve first... the US did the same when it was brutally attacked. It is now a matter of honor with the Spanish.


I have seen their Character and it pisses me off.

way to be tolerant. way to be accepting of the world's different cultures.


I have a very Liberal outlook on things.

Hypocrite much?
Tactical Grace
15-03-2004, 06:56
So, don't get your panties in a bunch because a democratic society spoke!
Steph, Steph, Steph, don't you see, the Americans don't want a democratic society. They want strong, firm leadership, an unregulated corporate sector and an aggressive foreign policy.
:roll:
C'mon. Try to deny it isn't true.

You want strong leadership, right?

You want foreign barriers to trade lifted, right, while protecting your own?

You want America to kick the asses of more foreigners, right?

The name for that ideology, my friend, is fascism. It is called neo-conservatism today, but get an old library textbook on the 1920s-1930s emergence of fascism, and you will see modern America staring back.
Zeppistan
15-03-2004, 06:56
If Spain pulling out a measly 1300 troops pisses you off.... how the hell are you going to react if Tony Blair isn't re-elected?
15-03-2004, 06:56
I have never seen anything on OBL and A-Q advocating a world-wide Islamic state. It was recently reported in the news media that Hamas and IJ representatives DID make such statements in press releases. I even saw reports on CBC and BBC covering the story.



There is a group in the UK that wants a worldwide Islamic state, I would to look for the article.
15-03-2004, 06:58
So, don't get your panties in a bunch because a democratic society spoke!
Steph, Steph, Steph, don't you see, the Americans don't want a democratic society. They want strong, firm leadership, an unregulated corporate sector and an aggressive foreign policy.
:roll:
C'mon. Try to deny it isn't true.

You want strong leadership, right?

You want foreign barriers to trade lifted, right, while protecting your own?

You want America to kick the asses of more foreigners, right?

The name for that ideology, my friend, is fascism. It is called neo-conservatism today, but get an old library textbook on the 1920s-1930s emergence of fascism, and you will see modern America staring back.


Yes
No
No

You know nothing about Conservatives.
Tactical Grace
15-03-2004, 06:58
I have seen their Character and it pisses me off.
way to be tolerant. way to be accepting of the world's different cultures.
Heh, at least he didn't say skin colour. Looking at the areas of the world where America fights its wars, Kosovo aside, one does notice a pattern. :wink:
15-03-2004, 06:59
WHERE'S THE PROOF?!?!??!?
and you wonder why we don't listen to you.
You are going to think whatever you want, no amount of proof I give you will change your mind. Of course we aren't going to change our minds with you making baseless accusations without dragging up even a shred of evidence to support your argument. Have you no sense, or just no debating skills?


:roll:

You people are just dense.
Kernlandia
15-03-2004, 06:59
I have seen their Character and it pisses me off.
way to be tolerant. way to be accepting of the world's different cultures.
Heh, at least he didn't say skin colour. Looking at the areas of the world where America fights its wars, Kosovo aside, one does notice a pattern. :wink:

yeah, there does tend to be a little bit of one.
15-03-2004, 06:59
I have seen their Character and it pisses me off.
way to be tolerant. way to be accepting of the world's different cultures.
Heh, at least he didn't say skin colour. Looking at the areas of the world where America fights its wars, Kosovo aside, one does notice a pattern. :wink:


Don't you ever wonder why I hate non-americans again, your comment is why.
Stephistan
15-03-2004, 07:00
So, don't get your panties in a bunch because a democratic society spoke!
Steph, Steph, Steph, don't you see, the Americans don't want a democratic society. They want strong, firm leadership, an unregulated corporate sector and an aggressive foreign policy.



:roll:

How about this.. can you come up with a good reason that Spain should support the US (or any country for that matter) in it's war on Iraq? Iraq and bin Laden had/have nothing to do with each other. That's been all but proved. The war in Iraq was trumped up. So I ask you again. Can YOU make a valid argument for why they should support it? Iraq wasn't the terrorists.. bin Laden and co. was. Or have you forgotten? Has Bush and his propaganda seeped so sternly into your brain that you have forgotten?

So, don't post an article.. let's hear why you think any one should support the US after the con-job they tried to pull on the world?
Chikyota
15-03-2004, 07:00
:roll:

You people are just dense. As opposed to you, who can do nothing more than throw out attacks? Yes junior, dense indeed. :roll:
Saskatoon Saskatchewan
15-03-2004, 07:00
WHERE'S THE PROOF?!?!??!?

and you wonder why we don't listen to you.


You are going to think whatever you want, no amount of proof I give you will change your mind.

so instead, you won't post anything to back yourself up? that's weird logic. Hmm, instead of trying to create intelligent debate, perhaps I will make snide comments and when people don't understand me, claim that that won't believe me anyways, and then just run away.

Hey, it's better than TRA's, but that's not saying much.
15-03-2004, 07:00
:roll:

You people are just dense. As opposed to you, who can do nothing more than throw out attacks? Yes junior, dense indeed. :roll:


Like you just did twice?
Tactical Grace
15-03-2004, 07:01
Don't you ever wonder why I hate non-americans again, your comment is why.
Hate is so unconstructive. Love, love is the key. :D
Chikyota
15-03-2004, 07:01
Don't you ever wonder why I hate non-americans again, your comment is why.
Hate is so unconstructive. Love, love is the key. :D TG, you are my hero. :D
Kernlandia
15-03-2004, 07:02
:roll:

You people are just dense. As opposed to you, who can do nothing more than throw out attacks? Yes junior, dense indeed. :roll:


Like you just did twice?

hey champ, you've done it more. you're in no position to be slinging stones.
Sydia
15-03-2004, 07:02
I have seen their Character and it pisses me off.
way to be tolerant. way to be accepting of the world's different cultures.
Heh, at least he didn't say skin colour. Looking at the areas of the world where America fights its wars, Kosovo aside, one does notice a pattern. :wink:


Don't you ever wonder why I hate non-americans again, your comment is why.

I have a very Liberal outlook on things.

I hate to kick a man when he's down...
Chikyota
15-03-2004, 07:02
:roll:

You people are just dense. As opposed to you, who can do nothing more than throw out attacks? Yes junior, dense indeed. :roll:


Like you just did twice? Don't you hate it when other people use your tactics against you?
15-03-2004, 07:02
If Spain pulling out a measly 1300 troops pisses you off.... how the hell are you going to react if Tony Blair isn't re-elected?

heheheheh... I hope the Brits get someone like Maggie Thatcher again. She was one tough cookie and had bigger cojones than any man in her government.

TG, I'm clueless as to your country of residence. Since you're one of the leading American-bashers... it would be nice to know. I hope you abstain from any mod action that involves an American... it would be hypocritical if you did do so.
15-03-2004, 07:03
Don't you ever wonder why I hate non-americans again, your comment is why.
Hate is so unconstructive. Love, love is the key. :D


Like how you Love America and Conservatives? I give up on you people. I don't fear Bin Laden, he is not my enemy, he is in some hole in the ground, why should I fear him?
15-03-2004, 07:03
:roll:

You people are just dense. As opposed to you, who can do nothing more than throw out attacks? Yes junior, dense indeed. :roll:


Like you just did twice? Don't you hate it when other people use your tactics against you?

Makes you look bad when you do.
Sydia
15-03-2004, 07:03
If Spain pulling out a measly 1300 troops pisses you off.... how the hell are you going to react if Tony Blair isn't re-elected?

heheheheh... I hope the Brits get someone like Maggie Thatcher again. She was one tough cookie and had bigger cojones than any man in her government.

TG, I'm clueless as to your country of residence. Since you're one of the leading American-bashers... it would be nice to know. I hope you abstain from any mod action that involves an American... it would be hypocritical if you did do so.

Not the milk-snatcher! Noooooo!
She'll close down the knife and fork factories in Shefield!
Kernlandia
15-03-2004, 07:04
Don't you ever wonder why I hate non-americans again, your comment is why.
Hate is so unconstructive. Love, love is the key. :D

i knew i loved you! hell, i still do! you rock my world.
Chikyota
15-03-2004, 07:05
Makes you look bad when you do. It also makes the originator look hypocritical for complaining about it. So, why don't you lay out some real evidence instead of bitching about how bad we all are?
Sydia
15-03-2004, 07:06
Don't you ever wonder why I hate non-americans again, your comment is why.
Hate is so unconstructive. Love, love is the key. :D


Like how you Love America and Conservatives? I give up on you people. I don't fear Bin Laden, he is not my enemy, he is in some hole in the ground, why should I fear him?

Obviously he;s going to paint the town Islam, according to your unnamed sources. If he's busy hiding in his pit of ultimate terror with badly photocopied plans for a horseback invasion of Kabul, why bother sending troops to the Middle East in the first place?! Gah! Your logic is baffling at best.
Tactical Grace
15-03-2004, 07:06
TG, I'm clueless as to your country of residence. Since you're one of the leading American-bashers... it would be nice to know. I hope you abstain from any mod action that involves an American... it would be hypocritical if you did do so.
I am a Brit who in early childhood narrowly escaped being an American. :D

EDIT: Incidentally, I am not an American-baser, I am an America-basher. There is a difference. I do not call the people as a whole stupid, I go after the policies of the state. And since half the users of this site are Americans, I do Mod actions against them all the time, mostly without knowing or caring who they are.
15-03-2004, 07:07
TG, I'm clueless as to your country of residence. Since you're one of the leading American-bashers... it would be nice to know. I hope you abstain from any mod action that involves an American... it would be hypocritical if you did do so.
I am a Brit who in early childhood narrowly escaped being an American. :D


We dodged a bullet on that one. :D
Kernlandia
15-03-2004, 07:08
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Obviously he's going to paint the town Islam.

that reminds me of a friend's elementary school musical version of tom sawyer. (there was a song in it that went "paint the town...")
Tactical Grace
15-03-2004, 07:08
i knew i loved you! hell, i still do! you rock my world.
Aww. Thanks, Kernel. [Hug]
Stephistan
15-03-2004, 07:09
Celestial Underground..I think you missed my post on the other page because you never answered.. so, I'll post it again. I wait eagerly to hear your response.


How about this.. can you come up with a good reason that Spain should support the US (or any country for that matter) in it's war on Iraq? Iraq and bin Laden had/have nothing to do with each other. That's been all but proved. The war in Iraq was trumped up. So I ask you again. Can YOU make a valid argument for why they should support it? Iraq wasn't the terrorists.. bin Laden and co. was. Or have you forgotten? Has Bush and his propaganda seeped so sternly into your brain that you have forgotten?

So, don't post an article.. let's hear why you think any one should support the US after the con-job they tried to pull on the world?
Kernlandia
15-03-2004, 07:10
i knew i loved you! hell, i still do! you rock my world.
Aww. Thanks, Kernel. [Hug]

hehe. damn time zones.
Tactical Grace
15-03-2004, 07:11
Yeah, what Steph is basically asking (and if I may extend this to Europe as a whole) in backing America in its War on Terror, what's in it for us?
15-03-2004, 07:12
Yeah, what Steph is basically asking (and if I may extend this to Europe as a whole) in backing America in its War on Terror, what's in it for us?


A world free of terrorism. :roll: I only care when America is at risk.
Kernlandia
15-03-2004, 07:12
Yeah, what Steph is basically asking (and if I may extend this to Europe as a whole) in backing America in its War on Terror, what's in it for us?

i would venture to say nothing. it's not like we're going to share the oil or anything, just the expense..

mm, a big fat deficit not only for us but for everyone who helps us! that's sure a good enticement.
Stephistan
15-03-2004, 07:13
Yeah, what Steph is basically asking (and if I may extend this to Europe as a whole) in backing America in its War on Terror, what's in it for us?

Well.. I hear that Blair wants a job after he's thrown out of office @ Halliburton..LMAO! j/k :P
15-03-2004, 07:14
Yeah, what Steph is basically asking (and if I may extend this to Europe as a whole) in backing America in its War on Terror, what's in it for us?

i would venture to say nothing. it's not like we're going to share the oil or anything, just the expense..

mm, a big fat deficit not only for us but for everyone who helps us! that's sure a good enticement.


:roll:

A world free of terrorism is worth nothing to you.
HotRodia
15-03-2004, 07:14
Yeah, what Steph is basically asking (and if I may extend this to Europe as a whole) in backing America in its War on Terror, what's in it for us?

i would venture to say nothing. it's not like we're going to share the oil or anything, just the expense..

mm, a big fat deficit not only for us but for everyone who helps us! that's sure a good enticement.

Ooooo....can I have a deficit can I can I? :lol:
Stephistan
15-03-2004, 07:14
Yeah, what Steph is basically asking (and if I may extend this to Europe as a whole) in backing America in its War on Terror, what's in it for us?


A world free of terrorism. :roll: I only care when America is at risk.

Ok, so then share with us how Iraq was a threat to America? Were you afraid your car might run out of gas? LOL.. :lol:
Kernlandia
15-03-2004, 07:14
Yeah, what Steph is basically asking (and if I may extend this to Europe as a whole) in backing America in its War on Terror, what's in it for us?

i would venture to say nothing. it's not like we're going to share the oil or anything, just the expense..

mm, a big fat deficit not only for us but for everyone who helps us! that's sure a good enticement.


:roll:

A world free of terrorism is worth nothing to you.

did you ever pause to consider what we're doing over there is terrorism in its own right?
15-03-2004, 07:15
Thanks... I suspected that you were a Sassanach :P (oh, a good name for a puppet), but was not sure. I love an Englishman berating someone for intervening in the affairs of other countries :twisted: .

I know the Irish feel the same way about you, as you do about Americans... go home.
Tactical Grace
15-03-2004, 07:16
The fact is, Europe has been living with terrorism for as long as anyone can remember, and we can deal with it on our territory on our terms in our own way. We don't need to help you. If Europe stands to gain nothing materially, I don't see why we should help you. It's not like we are under any sort of moral or treaty obligation. Like I said, we look after our own interests, like it or not. Simple as that.
15-03-2004, 07:17
Yeah, what Steph is basically asking (and if I may extend this to Europe as a whole) in backing America in its War on Terror, what's in it for us?


A world free of terrorism. :roll: I only care when America is at risk.

Ok, so then share with us how Iraq was a threat to America? Were you afraid your car might run out of gas? LOL.. :lol:


Saddam killed his own people and oppressed them... I forgot, youre a Liberal, you don't care.
Kernlandia
15-03-2004, 07:17
Thanks... I suspected that you were a Sassanach :P (oh, a good name for a puppet), but was not sure. I love an Englishman berating someone for intervening in the affairs of other countries :twisted: .

I know the Irish feel the same way about you, as you do about Americans... go home.

yeah, because tactical grace, as one individual, is directly responsible for the whole history of the irish and english.
15-03-2004, 07:18
The fact is, Europe has been living with terrorism for as long as anyone can remember, and we can deal with it on our territory on our terms in our own way. We don't need to help you. If Europe stands to gain nothing materially, I don't see why we should help you. It's not like we are under any sort of moral or treaty obligation. Like I said, we look after our own interests, like it or not. Simple as that.


Still in the darkages then? There is more to life than money and material gain.
Rosarita
15-03-2004, 07:18
Thanks... I suspected that you were a Sassanach :P (oh, a good name for a puppet), but was not sure. I love an Englishman berating someone for intervening in the affairs of other countries :twisted: .

I know the Irish feel the same way about you, as you do about Americans... go home.

yeah, because tactical grace, as one individual, is directly responsible for the whole history of the irish and english. He is...didn't you get the memo?
The Great Leveller
15-03-2004, 07:21
Yeah, what Steph is basically asking (and if I may extend this to Europe as a whole) in backing America in its War on Terror, what's in it for us?

i would venture to say nothing. it's not like we're going to share the oil or anything, just the expense..

mm, a big fat deficit not only for us but for everyone who helps us! that's sure a good enticement.


:roll:

A world free of terrorism is worth nothing to you.

Britain has had terrorist attacks well before 9/11 (or 11/9), With the IRA even attacking the heads of the government a couple of times. I have seen my home city blown apart by a terrorist bomb. America never cared then, But America expects the world to care when it is attacked.

NB: When I say 'America' I mean the government, administration etc. NOT every single individual citizen.
Tactical Grace
15-03-2004, 07:21
The fact is, Europe has been living with terrorism for as long as anyone can remember, and we can deal with it on our territory on our terms in our own way. We don't need to help you. If Europe stands to gain nothing materially, I don't see why we should help you. It's not like we are under any sort of moral or treaty obligation. Like I said, we look after our own interests, like it or not. Simple as that.
Still in the darkages then? There is more to life than money and material gain.
Hehe. I'm just being honest here. America likes the moralistic crusading image, but that's all it is. As someone here said before, we love each other's money.
Stephistan
15-03-2004, 07:22
The fact is, Europe has been living with terrorism for as long as anyone can remember, and we can deal with it on our territory on our terms in our own way. We don't need to help you. If Europe stands to gain nothing materially, I don't see why we should help you. It's not like we are under any sort of moral or treaty obligation. Like I said, we look after our own interests, like it or not. Simple as that.

Oh, the world is falling apart.. I love it! Mwhahaha. I wonder if the Romans felt like the Americans do right now just before they collapsed! Sad really.. but the reality of history. I mean I am 35 years old.. I don't ever in my life time ever recall any country more disliked then the U.S. I think I recall people being about as upset with the U.S.S.R. before it fell.. but nothing like this. Perhaps if they get rid of Bush in time.. they can turn this baby around. Not looking good though. I think it's not if.. but when. Nothing lasts forever people.. deal with it :P
Kernlandia
15-03-2004, 07:22
The fact is, Europe has been living with terrorism for as long as anyone can remember, and we can deal with it on our territory on our terms in our own way. We don't need to help you. If Europe stands to gain nothing materially, I don't see why we should help you. It's not like we are under any sort of moral or treaty obligation. Like I said, we look after our own interests, like it or not. Simple as that.
Still in the darkages then? There is more to life than money and material gain.
Hehe. I'm just being honest here. America likes the moralistic crusading image, but that's all it is. As someone here said before, we love each other's money.

good call. it's all about money, really.
Zeppistan
15-03-2004, 07:23
Yeah, what Steph is basically asking (and if I may extend this to Europe as a whole) in backing America in its War on Terror, what's in it for us?


A world free of terrorism. :roll: I only care when America is at risk.

Ok, so then share with us how Iraq was a threat to America? Were you afraid your car might run out of gas? LOL.. :lol:


Saddam killed his own people and oppressed them... I forgot, youre a Liberal, you don't care.

Which has what exactly to do with this worldwide Islamic conspiracy that you seem so concerned with? What does that have to do with terrorism?

And how does that affect Spain?

But nice try. Although when the leader of one of your "Coalition of the Willing" has been known to boil his political enemies alive, I think your using the moral argument rings a bit hollow.

-Z-
15-03-2004, 07:23
The fact is, Europe has been living with terrorism for as long as anyone can remember, and we can deal with it on our territory on our terms in our own way. We don't need to help you. If Europe stands to gain nothing materially, I don't see why we should help you. It's not like we are under any sort of moral or treaty obligation. Like I said, we look after our own interests, like it or not. Simple as that.
Still in the darkages then? There is more to life than money and material gain.
Hehe. I'm just being honest here. America likes the moralistic crusading image, but that's all it is. As someone here said before, we love each other's money.

You still know nothing about America.
15-03-2004, 07:24
The fact is, Europe has been living with terrorism for as long as anyone can remember, and we can deal with it on our territory on our terms in our own way. We don't need to help you. If Europe stands to gain nothing materially, I don't see why we should help you. It's not like we are under any sort of moral or treaty obligation. Like I said, we look after our own interests, like it or not. Simple as that.

Oh, the world is falling apart.. I love it! Mwhahaha. I wonder if the Romans felt like the Americans do right now just before they collapsed! Sad really.. but the reality of history. I mean I am 35 years old.. I don't ever in my life time ever recall any country more disliked then the U.S. I think I recall people being about as upset with the U.S.S.R. before it fell.. but nothing like this. Perhaps if they get rid of Bush in time.. they can turn this baby around. Not looking good though. I think it's not if.. but when. Nothing lasts forever people.. deal with it :P

If the USA falls Canada will fall with it, and thats a good thing. :P
15-03-2004, 07:25
TG is as responsible for his gov't, as are the Americans here... for there's. I sure as hell did not vote for GWB... why is his stupidity my fault?

TG also stated that Americans were half the members at NS. For mods to show such bias... does not bode well for a pay NS.
HotRodia
15-03-2004, 07:25
Hehe. I'm just being honest here. America likes the moralistic crusading image, but that's all it is. As someone here said before, we love each other's money.

No I don't. I like my money much better than yours! :P
Sydia
15-03-2004, 07:25
The fact is, Europe has been living with terrorism for as long as anyone can remember, and we can deal with it on our territory on our terms in our own way. We don't need to help you. If Europe stands to gain nothing materially, I don't see why we should help you. It's not like we are under any sort of moral or treaty obligation. Like I said, we look after our own interests, like it or not. Simple as that.
Still in the darkages then? There is more to life than money and material gain.
Hehe. I'm just being honest here. America likes the moralistic crusading image, but that's all it is. As someone here said before, we love each other's money.

You still know nothing about America.

So? You know jack diddly about Europe, clearly.
Tactical Grace
15-03-2004, 07:26
You still know nothing about America.
It may appear that way from a limited frame of reference. Actually, I know much about the world, and where America fits into it. The big picture, as it were. You can only see America, albeit in very hi-res.
Stephistan
15-03-2004, 07:26
Yeah, what Steph is basically asking (and if I may extend this to Europe as a whole) in backing America in its War on Terror, what's in it for us?


A world free of terrorism. :roll: I only care when America is at risk.

Ok, so then share with us how Iraq was a threat to America? Were you afraid your car might run out of gas? LOL.. :lol:


Saddam killed his own people and oppressed them... I forgot, youre a Liberal, you don't care.

Ok, I know you usually don't take part in the political discussions on the forum.. usually you stick to the spam threads.. so, I'm going to make this easy on you..

Finish my sentence...

Saddam killed his own people and oppressed them... I forgot, youre a Liberal, you don't care

....And this made Saddam a threat to America because................?
15-03-2004, 07:26
The fact is, Europe has been living with terrorism for as long as anyone can remember, and we can deal with it on our territory on our terms in our own way. We don't need to help you. If Europe stands to gain nothing materially, I don't see why we should help you. It's not like we are under any sort of moral or treaty obligation. Like I said, we look after our own interests, like it or not. Simple as that.
Still in the darkages then? There is more to life than money and material gain.
Hehe. I'm just being honest here. America likes the moralistic crusading image, but that's all it is. As someone here said before, we love each other's money.

You still know nothing about America.

So? You know jack diddly about Europe, clearly.

I know that you are cowards that hate anybody who does things differently then you.
Sydia
15-03-2004, 07:28
The fact is, Europe has been living with terrorism for as long as anyone can remember, and we can deal with it on our territory on our terms in our own way. We don't need to help you. If Europe stands to gain nothing materially, I don't see why we should help you. It's not like we are under any sort of moral or treaty obligation. Like I said, we look after our own interests, like it or not. Simple as that.
Still in the darkages then? There is more to life than money and material gain.
Hehe. I'm just being honest here. America likes the moralistic crusading image, but that's all it is. As someone here said before, we love each other's money.

You still know nothing about America.

So? You know jack diddly about Europe, clearly.

I know that you are cowards that hate anybody who does things differently then you.

Wow, thanks for proving my point for me.
Kernlandia
15-03-2004, 07:28
TG is as responsible for his gov't, as are the Americans here... for there's. I sure as hell did not vote for GWB... why is his stupidity my fault?

TG also stated that Americans were half the members at NS. For mods to show such bias... does not bode well for a pay NS.

his stupidity isn't your fault, but unfortunately, you get the ill-effects too. which is why he needs to be ousted in november.

and grace doesn't do his modding duties with regards to country. he doesn't favor or discriminate from one country to the next.
15-03-2004, 07:28
Yeah, what Steph is basically asking (and if I may extend this to Europe as a whole) in backing America in its War on Terror, what's in it for us?


A world free of terrorism. :roll: I only care when America is at risk.

Ok, so then share with us how Iraq was a threat to America? Were you afraid your car might run out of gas? LOL.. :lol:


Saddam killed his own people and oppressed them... I forgot, youre a Liberal, you don't care.

Ok, I know you usually don't take part in the political discussions on the forum.. usually you stick to the spam threads.. so, I'm going to make this easy on you..

Finish my sentence...

Saddam killed his own people and oppressed them... I forgot, youre a Liberal, you don't care

....And this made Saddam a threat to America because................?

He makes it impossible to create peace between Israel and the West Bank.
Tactical Grace
15-03-2004, 07:28
I know that you are cowards that hate anybody who does things differently then you.
Europe lost tens of millions in its wars in the 20th century. America lost a few hundred thousand and wets itself at the thought of losing a few men to an African mob. :roll:
15-03-2004, 07:29
The fact is, Europe has been living with terrorism for as long as anyone can remember, and we can deal with it on our territory on our terms in our own way. We don't need to help you. If Europe stands to gain nothing materially, I don't see why we should help you. It's not like we are under any sort of moral or treaty obligation. Like I said, we look after our own interests, like it or not. Simple as that.
Still in the darkages then? There is more to life than money and material gain.
Hehe. I'm just being honest here. America likes the moralistic crusading image, but that's all it is. As someone here said before, we love each other's money.

You still know nothing about America.

So? You know jack diddly about Europe, clearly.

I know that you are cowards that hate anybody who does things differently then you.

Wow, thanks for proving my point for me.

Care to prove me wrong?
15-03-2004, 07:30
I know that you are cowards that hate anybody who does things differently then you.
Europe lost tens of millions in its wars in the 20th century. America lost a few hundred thousand and wets itself at the thought of losing a few men to an African mob. :roll:


I don't care about Europeans and don't see why I should.
Kernlandia
15-03-2004, 07:30
i think you're displaying more intolerance than anyone, celestial.
Saskatoon Saskatchewan
15-03-2004, 07:30
Yeah, what Steph is basically asking (and if I may extend this to Europe as a whole) in backing America in its War on Terror, what's in it for us?


A world free of terrorism. :roll: I only care when America is at risk.

Ok, so then share with us how Iraq was a threat to America? Were you afraid your car might run out of gas? LOL.. :lol:


Saddam killed his own people and oppressed them... I forgot, youre a Liberal, you don't care.

Ok, I know you usually don't take part in the political discussions on the forum.. usually you stick to the spam threads.. so, I'm going to make this easy on you..

Finish my sentence...

Saddam killed his own people and oppressed them... I forgot, youre a Liberal, you don't care

....And this made Saddam a threat to America because................?

He makes it impossible to create peace between Israel and the West Bank.
and the US has nothing to do w/ this? I think NOT.
Sydia
15-03-2004, 07:31
The fact is, Europe has been living with terrorism for as long as anyone can remember, and we can deal with it on our territory on our terms in our own way. We don't need to help you. If Europe stands to gain nothing materially, I don't see why we should help you. It's not like we are under any sort of moral or treaty obligation. Like I said, we look after our own interests, like it or not. Simple as that.
Still in the darkages then? There is more to life than money and material gain.
Hehe. I'm just being honest here. America likes the moralistic crusading image, but that's all it is. As someone here said before, we love each other's money.

You still know nothing about America.

So? You know jack diddly about Europe, clearly.

I know that you are cowards that hate anybody who does things differently then you.

Wow, thanks for proving my point for me.

Care to prove me wrong?

The fact that you brand an entire continent as "cowards" because they don't go along with what Bush says is proof enough for me, thanks.
Zeppistan
15-03-2004, 07:31
Yeah, what Steph is basically asking (and if I may extend this to Europe as a whole) in backing America in its War on Terror, what's in it for us?


A world free of terrorism. :roll: I only care when America is at risk.

Ok, so then share with us how Iraq was a threat to America? Were you afraid your car might run out of gas? LOL.. :lol:


Saddam killed his own people and oppressed them... I forgot, youre a Liberal, you don't care.

Ok, I know you usually don't take part in the political discussions on the forum.. usually you stick to the spam threads.. so, I'm going to make this easy on you..

Finish my sentence...

Saddam killed his own people and oppressed them... I forgot, youre a Liberal, you don't care

....And this made Saddam a threat to America because................?

He makes it impossible to create peace between Israel and the West Bank.

Ahh yes.... the Palestine problem is all Saddam's fault!

:roll:
15-03-2004, 07:31
The fact is, Europe has been living with terrorism for as long as anyone can remember, and we can deal with it on our territory on our terms in our own way. We don't need to help you. If Europe stands to gain nothing materially, I don't see why we should help you. It's not like we are under any sort of moral or treaty obligation. Like I said, we look after our own interests, like it or not. Simple as that.
Still in the darkages then? There is more to life than money and material gain.
Hehe. I'm just being honest here. America likes the moralistic crusading image, but that's all it is. As someone here said before, we love each other's money.

You still know nothing about America.

So? You know jack diddly about Europe, clearly.

I know that you are cowards that hate anybody who does things differently then you.

Wow, thanks for proving my point for me.

Care to prove me wrong?

The fact that you brand an entire continent as "cowards" because they don't go along with what Bush says is proof enough for me, thanks.

You got nothing, Thanks. :P
Stephistan
15-03-2004, 07:32
TG is as responsible for his gov't, as are the Americans here... for there's. I sure as hell did not vote for GWB... why is his stupidity my fault?

TG also stated that Americans were half the members at NS. For mods to show such bias... does not bode well for a pay NS.

his stupidity isn't your fault, but unfortunately, you get the ill-effects too. which is why he needs to be ousted in november.

and grace doesn't do his modding duties with regards to country. he doesn't favor or discriminate from one country to the next.

I don't mod by country either. In fact I know the majority of Americans didn't even vote for Bush, they voted for another guy. Gore I believe. But before any one starts.. I know how the archaic electoral college works!

The reality is the Americans have a president that the majority of the people didn't even vote for. Hows that for beautiful American democracy!

Nothing wrong with the American people.. I think their system sucks though!
15-03-2004, 07:32
Yeah, what Steph is basically asking (and if I may extend this to Europe as a whole) in backing America in its War on Terror, what's in it for us?


A world free of terrorism. :roll: I only care when America is at risk.

Ok, so then share with us how Iraq was a threat to America? Were you afraid your car might run out of gas? LOL.. :lol:


Saddam killed his own people and oppressed them... I forgot, youre a Liberal, you don't care.

Ok, I know you usually don't take part in the political discussions on the forum.. usually you stick to the spam threads.. so, I'm going to make this easy on you..

Finish my sentence...

Saddam killed his own people and oppressed them... I forgot, youre a Liberal, you don't care

....And this made Saddam a threat to America because................?

He makes it impossible to create peace between Israel and the West Bank.

Ahh yes.... the Palestine problem is all Saddam's fault!

:roll:

I didn't say that. :roll:
15-03-2004, 07:33
CU... just kick back and relax. Wait for Islamic terrorists to do it for you. It would not surprise me if the Queen was their next target.

Since this whole thread is about who can fling the most male bovine fecal matter... I have a good one.

It was OBL and A-Q that killed Diana. They were disgusted by her shacking up with a Moslem.
15-03-2004, 07:34
CU... just kick back and relax. Wait for Islamic terrorists to do it for you. It would not surprise me if the Queen was their next target.

Since this whole thread is about who can fling the most male bovine fecal matter... I have a good one.

It was OBL and A-Q that killed Diana. They were disgusted by her shacking up with a Moslem.


I really couldn't care less if a European dies.
Kernlandia
15-03-2004, 07:35
CU... just kick back and relax. Wait for Islamic terrorists to do it for you. It would not surprise me if the Queen was their next target.

Since this whole thread is about who can fling the most male bovine fecal matter... I have a good one.

It was OBL and A-Q that killed Diana. They were disgusted by her shacking up with a Moslem.


I really couldn't care less if a European dies.

and they shouldn't care if an american dies.
Sydia
15-03-2004, 07:35
-quote train snipped-

You got nothing, Thanks. :P

What's that? Another baseless arguement showing your blatent nationalism and arrogance? Well, I never.

Here's some fun with facts; without Europeans YOU wouldn't even exist.

Check and Mate, sucka.
15-03-2004, 07:35
CU... just kick back and relax. Wait for Islamic terrorists to do it for you. It would not surprise me if the Queen was their next target.

Since this whole thread is about who can fling the most male bovine fecal matter... I have a good one.

It was OBL and A-Q that killed Diana. They were disgusted by her shacking up with a Moslem.


I really couldn't care less if a European dies.

and they shouldn't care if an american dies.


Which is why I hate them.
Saskatoon Saskatchewan
15-03-2004, 07:36
Yeah, what Steph is basically asking (and if I may extend this to Europe as a whole) in backing America in its War on Terror, what's in it for us?


A world free of terrorism. :roll: I only care when America is at risk.

Ok, so then share with us how Iraq was a threat to America? Were you afraid your car might run out of gas? LOL.. :lol:


Saddam killed his own people and oppressed them... I forgot, youre a Liberal, you don't care.

Ok, I know you usually don't take part in the political discussions on the forum.. usually you stick to the spam threads.. so, I'm going to make this easy on you..

Finish my sentence...

Saddam killed his own people and oppressed them... I forgot, youre a Liberal, you don't care

....And this made Saddam a threat to America because................?

He makes it impossible to create peace between Israel and the West Bank.

Ahh yes.... the Palestine problem is all Saddam's fault!

:roll:

I didn't say that. :roll:

OK then :roll: ( I notice you like to use these alot, perhaps, you believe you are smarter than you opponents, is this true? )
Zeppistan
15-03-2004, 07:36
.......... snips out the pyramid ...........

I didn't say that. :roll:

No.

So far you've been pissed because Spain is a democracy. Because the new leader is not pro-the-iraq-war. Because he should realize that this relates to Osama's worldwide Islamic State plan, and that this related to Iraq because Saddam was a nasty guy to his own people, and because he also made peace in the West bank dificult!

It's hard to follow your train of vitriol.

-Z-
Kernlandia
15-03-2004, 07:36
CU... just kick back and relax. Wait for Islamic terrorists to do it for you. It would not surprise me if the Queen was their next target.

Since this whole thread is about who can fling the most male bovine fecal matter... I have a good one.

It was OBL and A-Q that killed Diana. They were disgusted by her shacking up with a Moslem.


I really couldn't care less if a European dies.

and they shouldn't care if an american dies.


Which is why I hate them.

hey, you govern yourself by the same principle. they don't care if you die, but you don't care if they die.

so if you hate them that's absurd.
Tactical Grace
15-03-2004, 07:37
I know that you are cowards that hate anybody who does things differently then you.
Europe lost tens of millions in its wars in the 20th century. America lost a few hundred thousand and wets itself at the thought of losing a few men to an African mob. :roll:
I don't care about Europeans and don't see why I should.
Um. You just called Europeans cowards who hate, etc. And now you do a turn around and say you don't care. Yeah. Right.
The Great Leveller
15-03-2004, 07:37
CU... just kick back and relax. Wait for Islamic terrorists to do it for you. It would not surprise me if the Queen was their next target.

Since this whole thread is about who can fling the most male bovine fecal matter... I have a good one.

It was OBL and A-Q that killed Diana. They were disgusted by her shacking up with a Moslem.


I really couldn't care less if a European dies.

and they shouldn't care if an american dies.

Or 3000 by that logic :roll:
15-03-2004, 07:37
CU... just kick back and relax. Wait for Islamic terrorists to do it for you. It would not surprise me if the Queen was their next target.

Since this whole thread is about who can fling the most male bovine fecal matter... I have a good one.

It was OBL and A-Q that killed Diana. They were disgusted by her shacking up with a Moslem.


I really couldn't care less if a European dies.

and they shouldn't care if an american dies.


Which is why I hate them.

hey, you govern yourself by the same principle. they don't care if you die, but you don't care if they die.

so if you hate them that's absurd.

I cared if they died, until I found out they didn't feel the same about Americans.
Kernlandia
15-03-2004, 07:38
.......... snips out the pyramid ...........

I didn't say that. :roll:

No.

So far you've been pissed because Spain is a democracy. Because the new leader is not pro-the-iraq-war. Because he should realize that this relates to Osama's worldwide Islamic State plan, and that this related to Iraq because Saddam was a nasty guy to his own people, and because he also made peace in the West bank dificult!

It's hard to follow your train of vitriol.

-Z-

i love you too.
15-03-2004, 07:38
Hows that for beautiful American democracy!

A popular fallacy... the US is NOT a democracy. It is a representive republic... a different critter. The Founding Fathers were strongly influenced by the Roman Republic and the Iroquois Confederation.
Zeppistan
15-03-2004, 07:38
CU... just kick back and relax. Wait for Islamic terrorists to do it for you. It would not surprise me if the Queen was their next target.

Since this whole thread is about who can fling the most male bovine fecal matter... I have a good one.

It was OBL and A-Q that killed Diana. They were disgusted by her shacking up with a Moslem.


I really couldn't care less if a European dies.

and they shouldn't care if an american dies.


Which is why I hate them.

So ....You say they should care becuase Iraqi's died. Or because American's died. But you don't care about them.

Look up Hipocrite in the dictionary....

-Z-
15-03-2004, 07:38
I know that you are cowards that hate anybody who does things differently then you.
Europe lost tens of millions in its wars in the 20th century. America lost a few hundred thousand and wets itself at the thought of losing a few men to an African mob. :roll:
I don't care about Europeans and don't see why I should.
Um. You just called Europeans cowards who hate, etc. And now you do a turn around and say you don't care. Yeah. Right.


Give me one good reason why I should care about them in any way? JUST ONE!
Kernlandia
15-03-2004, 07:39
I cared if they died, until I found out they didn't feel the same about Americans.

ok, so then they should be able to hate you, by that logic.

jeez, just give it up. what the world needs now is love, sweet love.
Tactical Grace
15-03-2004, 07:39
I really couldn't care less if a European dies.
and they shouldn't care if an american dies.
Which is why I hate them.
Um. And this would give them a reason to hate you, right?

Ah, the beauty of Karma. Or is it mere irony?
15-03-2004, 07:39
CU... just kick back and relax. Wait for Islamic terrorists to do it for you. It would not surprise me if the Queen was their next target.

Since this whole thread is about who can fling the most male bovine fecal matter... I have a good one.

It was OBL and A-Q that killed Diana. They were disgusted by her shacking up with a Moslem.


I really couldn't care less if a European dies.

and they shouldn't care if an american dies.


Which is why I hate them.

So ....You say they should care becuase Iraqi's died. Or because American's died. But you don't care about them.

Look up Hipocrite in the dictionary....

-Z-

You are not reading a damn thing I post!!!
Sydia
15-03-2004, 07:39
Why do you persist on lumping Europeans together? Believe it or not, we do have differing opinions.

By your logic, all Europeans would think America is a desert inhabited primarily by cowboys, which is of course absurd.

You got nothin'
15-03-2004, 07:39
what the world needs now is love, sweet love. It's the only thing that there's just too little of.
15-03-2004, 07:40
I cared if they died, until I found out they didn't feel the same about Americans.

ok, so then they should be able to hate you, by that logic.

jeez, just give it up. what the world needs now is love, sweet love.


Did you even read what I said? I guess not.
15-03-2004, 07:40
Look up Hipocrite in the dictionary....


No, look up hypocrite... you will have better luck :roll:
15-03-2004, 07:41
Why do you persist on lumping Europeans together? Believe it or not, we do have differing opinions.

By your logic, all Europeans would think America is a desert inhabited primarily by cowboys, which is of course absurd.

You got nothin'



You don't listen to your own people do you?
Sydia
15-03-2004, 07:41
what the world needs now is love, sweet love. It's the only thing that there's just too little of.

Thats the first thing that's made sense in the whole damn thread!
Tactical Grace
15-03-2004, 07:41
Give me one good reason why I should care about them in any way? JUST ONE!
There isn't one, really. Same as there is no reason for me to care about dead Americans. But it is the human thing to care, is it not? Unless one is completely amoral.
15-03-2004, 07:41
what the world needs now is love, sweet love. It's the only thing that there's just too little of.

Thats the first thing that's made sense in the whole damn thread!


Love is for the weak.
Kernlandia
15-03-2004, 07:42
Look up Hipocrite in the dictionary....


No, look up hypocrite... you will have better luck :roll:\

this isn't english class, it's a debate.
Sydia
15-03-2004, 07:42
Why do you persist on lumping Europeans together? Believe it or not, we do have differing opinions.

By your logic, all Europeans would think America is a desert inhabited primarily by cowboys, which is of course absurd.

You got nothin'



You don't listen to your own people do you?

:x
It's like talking to a brick wall.

WE ARE NOT ALL THE SAME. EVERYBODIES OPINION DIFFERS NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE.

How hard is that to understand? G-d.
15-03-2004, 07:42
Give me one good reason why I should care about them in any way? JUST ONE!
There isn't one, really. Same as there is no reason for me to care about dead Americans. But it is the human thing to care, is it not? Unless one is completely amoral.


I have no soul and a Cold heart, so I don't care about the lives of Non-Americans on any level.
Tactical Grace
15-03-2004, 07:42
Love is for the weak.
America speaks.

Now we're getting somewhere . . . :lol:
Zeppistan
15-03-2004, 07:43
You are not reading a damn thing I post!!!

I'm reading everything you post. I'm just finding it meanspirited and generally wrong.

-Z-
Tactical Grace
15-03-2004, 07:43
I have no soul and a Cold heart, so I don't care about the lives of Non-Americans on any level.
Well, at least you're honest about it, even if it does sound a bit racist.
15-03-2004, 07:43
Why do you persist on lumping Europeans together? Believe it or not, we do have differing opinions.

By your logic, all Europeans would think America is a desert inhabited primarily by cowboys, which is of course absurd.

You got nothin'



You don't listen to your own people do you?

:x
It's like talking to a brick wall.

WE ARE NOT ALL THE SAME. EVERYBODIES OPINION DIFFERS NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE.

How hard is that to understand? G-d.


You are all the same! I have never met ONE European that wasn't like all the others.
Kernlandia
15-03-2004, 07:43
Love is for the weak.
America speaks.

Now we're getting somewhere . . . :lol:

then don't count me as an american!
Sydia
15-03-2004, 07:44
Give me one good reason why I should care about them in any way? JUST ONE!
There isn't one, really. Same as there is no reason for me to care about dead Americans. But it is the human thing to care, is it not? Unless one is completely amoral.


I have no soul and a Cold heart, so I don't care about the lives of Non-Americans on any level.

So why should they give a damn about you? This is quite possibly the stupidest arguement ever to have graced general.
15-03-2004, 07:44
I have no soul and a Cold heart, so I don't care about the lives of Non-Americans on any level.
Well, at least you're honest about it, even if it does sound a bit racist.


How is it racist?
Kernlandia
15-03-2004, 07:44
You are all the same! I have never met ONE European that wasn't like all the others.

see, that's really funny, because i've actually been to europe, and believe it or not, they're not just carbon copies!

shocking, i know.
15-03-2004, 07:44
Give me one good reason why I should care about them in any way? JUST ONE!
There isn't one, really. Same as there is no reason for me to care about dead Americans. But it is the human thing to care, is it not? Unless one is completely amoral.


I have no soul and a Cold heart, so I don't care about the lives of Non-Americans on any level.

So why should they give a damn about you? This is quite possibly the stupidest arguement ever to have graced general.


Its the most honest.
Zeppistan
15-03-2004, 07:45
what the world needs now is love, sweet love. It's the only thing that there's just too little of.

Thats the first thing that's made sense in the whole damn thread!


Love is for the weak.

Which then means that this lack of love that you feel Europe is showing you is actually a sign of strength - not cowardice!

:twisted:

-Z-
15-03-2004, 07:45
You are all the same! I have never met ONE European that wasn't like all the others.

see, that's really funny, because i've actually been to europe, and believe it or not, they're not just carbon copies!

shocking, i know.

I have been to Europe to, they ARE carbon copies.
Kernlandia
15-03-2004, 07:45
Its the most honest.

if by honest you mean handicapped and futile, then yes.
Stephistan
15-03-2004, 07:45
.......... snips out the pyramid ...........

I didn't say that. :roll:

No.

So far you've been pissed because Spain is a democracy. Because the new leader is not pro-the-iraq-war. Because he should realize that this relates to Osama's worldwide Islamic State plan, and that this related to Iraq because Saddam was a nasty guy to his own people, and because he also made peace in the West bank dificult!

It's hard to follow your train of vitriol.

-Z-

By George (no pun intended) I think Zeppistan is onto some thing here.. I think every one is totally misunderstanding Celestial Underground . Celestial Underground is not a conservative..Celestial Underground is way out in left field.. LOL :P
Rosarita
15-03-2004, 07:45
see, that's really funny, because i've actually been to europe, and believe it or not, they're not just carbon copies!

shocking, i know. Actually, they were Americans posing as Europeans, because, you know, only Americans are different.
Saskatoon Saskatchewan
15-03-2004, 07:45
Why do you persist on lumping Europeans together? Believe it or not, we do have differing opinions.

By your logic, all Europeans would think America is a desert inhabited primarily by cowboys, which is of course absurd.

You got nothin'



You don't listen to your own people do you?

:x
It's like talking to a brick wall.

WE ARE NOT ALL THE SAME. EVERYBODIES OPINION DIFFERS NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE.

How hard is that to understand? G-d.


You are all the same! I have never met ONE European that wasn't like all the others.

that's a pretty generalized comment. I wonder what you think of Canadians?
Sydia
15-03-2004, 07:46
Why do you persist on lumping Europeans together? Believe it or not, we do have differing opinions.

By your logic, all Europeans would think America is a desert inhabited primarily by cowboys, which is of course absurd.

You got nothin'



You don't listen to your own people do you?

:x
It's like talking to a brick wall.

WE ARE NOT ALL THE SAME. EVERYBODIES OPINION DIFFERS NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE.

How hard is that to understand? G-d.


You are all the same! I have never met ONE European that wasn't like all the others.

Your stunningly arrogant generalisations are irritating in the extreme. I take it you've met every single European then?

Hey wall, did you know that not everyones opinion is the same based purely on where they live? Hey, Mr. brick wall, can you hear me? Hello? Anyone in there?
15-03-2004, 07:46
what the world needs now is love, sweet love. It's the only thing that there's just too little of.

Thats the first thing that's made sense in the whole damn thread!


Love is for the weak.

Which then means that this lack of love that you feel Europe is showing you is actually a sign of strength - not cowardice!

:twisted:

-Z-


A Tactical gas attack would be funny in Paris. :wink:
Tactical Grace
15-03-2004, 07:46
I have no soul and a Cold heart, so I don't care about the lives of Non-Americans on any level.
Well, at least you're honest about it, even if it does sound a bit racist.
How is it racist?
It sounds exactly like what all the General Forum Nazis say. You know, the Stormfront people. You will bump into them sooner or later. They used to be regulars, but these days they tend to post a flurry of topics on some Saturdays and disappear again.
Nianacio
15-03-2004, 07:46
Ahh yes.... the Palestine problem is all Saddam's fault!No, but he did send $30 million to the families of suicide bombers.
*Jumps back out of thread*
EDIT: Ah, the thread is too fast! :shock:
Kernlandia
15-03-2004, 07:46
I have been to Europe to, they ARE carbon copies.

really? i thought the people there were all three dimensional, and didn't have pencial marks all over them...

silly me, how could i overlook that?

jesus christ, that was a retarded statement. they are NOT the same.
15-03-2004, 07:47
Americans come in all types... just like Euros. We each have our own reasons for supporting or opposing the WoT. The terrorists made it a personal issue with me.

I had already done my war... many years ago. I had thought for 30+ years that that was all behind me. Then, 9-11 put me back in a free-fire zone... I will never forgive the murdering scum for doing so.
Sydia
15-03-2004, 07:47
what the world needs now is love, sweet love. It's the only thing that there's just too little of.

Thats the first thing that's made sense in the whole damn thread!


Love is for the weak.

Which then means that this lack of love that you feel Europe is showing you is actually a sign of strength - not cowardice!

:twisted:

-Z-


A Tactical gas attack would be funny in Paris. :wink:

That's about as funny as a burning orphanage.
15-03-2004, 07:47
Why do you persist on lumping Europeans together? Believe it or not, we do have differing opinions.

By your logic, all Europeans would think America is a desert inhabited primarily by cowboys, which is of course absurd.

You got nothin'



You don't listen to your own people do you?

:x
It's like talking to a brick wall.

WE ARE NOT ALL THE SAME. EVERYBODIES OPINION DIFFERS NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE.

How hard is that to understand? G-d.


You are all the same! I have never met ONE European that wasn't like all the others.

Your stunningly arrogant generalisations are irritating in the extreme. I take it you've met every single European then?

Hey wall, did you know that not everyones opinion is the same based purely on where they live? Hey, Mr. brick wall, can you hear me? Hello? Anyone in there?

I have met enough of those things to last a lifetime.
15-03-2004, 07:48
what the world needs now is love, sweet love. It's the only thing that there's just too little of.

Thats the first thing that's made sense in the whole damn thread!


Love is for the weak.

Which then means that this lack of love that you feel Europe is showing you is actually a sign of strength - not cowardice!

:twisted:

-Z-


A Tactical gas attack would be funny in Paris. :wink:

That's about as funny as a burning orphanage.

You missed the joke.Tactical Fart Attack
Tactical Grace
15-03-2004, 07:48
A Tactical gas attack would be funny in Paris. :wink:
That's about as funny as a burning orphanage.
Or all those people jumping out of the Towers, their clothes being ripped off by the slipstream.
Rosarita
15-03-2004, 07:48
I have met enough of those things to last a lifetime. "those things"? Because if you're European, you're not a person.
15-03-2004, 07:49
what the world needs now is love, sweet love. It's the only thing that there's just too little of.

Thats the first thing that's made sense in the whole damn thread!


Love is for the weak.

Which then means that this lack of love that you feel Europe is showing you is actually a sign of strength - not cowardice!

:twisted:

-Z-


A Tactical gas attack would be funny in Paris. :wink:

That's about as funny as a burning orphanage.

*snicker* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
Sydia
15-03-2004, 07:49
Why do you persist on lumping Europeans together? Believe it or not, we do have differing opinions.

By your logic, all Europeans would think America is a desert inhabited primarily by cowboys, which is of course absurd.

You got nothin'



You don't listen to your own people do you?

:x
It's like talking to a brick wall.

WE ARE NOT ALL THE SAME. EVERYBODIES OPINION DIFFERS NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE.

How hard is that to understand? G-d.


You are all the same! I have never met ONE European that wasn't like all the others.

Your stunningly arrogant generalisations are irritating in the extreme. I take it you've met every single European then?

Hey wall, did you know that not everyones opinion is the same based purely on where they live? Hey, Mr. brick wall, can you hear me? Hello? Anyone in there?

I have met enough of those things to last a lifetime.

Yes, Mr. brick wall.

Heil Bush.

:roll:
Zeppistan
15-03-2004, 07:49
what the world needs now is love, sweet love. It's the only thing that there's just too little of.

Thats the first thing that's made sense in the whole damn thread!


Love is for the weak.

Which then means that this lack of love that you feel Europe is showing you is actually a sign of strength - not cowardice!

:twisted:

-Z-


A Tactical gas attack would be funny in Paris. :wink:

What... you gonna go there and open your mouth in person?
15-03-2004, 07:49
I have met enough of those things to last a lifetime. "those things"? Because if you're European, you're not a person.


Finally, somebody gets it.
The Great Leveller
15-03-2004, 07:50
You are all the same! I have never met ONE European that wasn't like all the others.

You cannot have met many Europeans then. Your claim means that Hitler was the same as Attlee.

CU, through out this debate, you have contradicted yourself more than once. The most glaring one being you initial view on Spain, and your subsequent claim on not caring about non-Americans.

btw, you should care about non-Americans. Because it is not as if no non-Americans help keep the US economy afloat in various different ways. ie buy American products, invest in American businesses etc.
15-03-2004, 07:50
what the world needs now is love, sweet love. It's the only thing that there's just too little of.

Thats the first thing that's made sense in the whole damn thread!


Love is for the weak.

Which then means that this lack of love that you feel Europe is showing you is actually a sign of strength - not cowardice!

:twisted:

-Z-


A Tactical gas attack would be funny in Paris. :wink:

What... you gonna go there and open your mouth in person?


Moron. :roll:
Rosarita
15-03-2004, 07:50
I have met enough of those things to last a lifetime. "those things"? Because if you're European, you're not a person.


Finally, somebody gets it. Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds? Honestly, tolerance is not a crime.
Kernlandia
15-03-2004, 07:50
I have met enough of those things to last a lifetime.

those things? i take umbrage to that. severe umbrage.

especially since i doubt you can trace yourself to 100% pure american stock-which is mixed european anyways.

so it totally makes sense for you to call them things, since i'm sure you have some european ancestry.
15-03-2004, 07:51
I have met enough of those things to last a lifetime. "those things"? Because if you're European, you're not a person.


Finally, somebody gets it. Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds? Honestly, tolerance is not a crime.

It should be. :P
15-03-2004, 07:52
I have met enough of those things to last a lifetime.

those things? i take umbrage to that. severe umbrage.

especially since i doubt you can trace yourself to 100% pure american stock-which is mixed european anyways.

so it totally makes sense for you to call them things, since i'm sure you have some european ancestry.


There are other people on this planet besides whites you know. :P
Sydia
15-03-2004, 07:52
I have met enough of those things to last a lifetime. "those things"? Because if you're European, you're not a person.


Finally, somebody gets it.

http://quicksitebuilder.cnet.com/sartrejp/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/bush-pope.jpg

I'm almost 100% sure you'll have European blood in you.
Kernlandia
15-03-2004, 07:52
you've got to be some attention whore puppet. that's all i've gleaned from this debate.
Tactical Grace
15-03-2004, 07:52
I have met enough of those things to last a lifetime. "those things"? Because if you're European, you're not a person.
Finally, somebody gets it.
Yep, that's nearly Stormfront material. I suggest you take a look at Nazi Deutschland Axis and some of the other far-right regions in NS, you will find many like-minded people there. You know, the "if you're not _____, you're not human" sort. :wink:
15-03-2004, 07:53
I have met enough of those things to last a lifetime. "those things"? Because if you're European, you're not a person.


Finally, somebody gets it.

http://quicksitebuilder.cnet.com/sartrejp/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/bush-pope.jpg

I'm almost 100% sure you'll have European blood in you.


None, zero , Zilch! Nice FAKE pic!
Stephistan
15-03-2004, 07:53
what the world needs now is love, sweet love. It's the only thing that there's just too little of.

Thats the first thing that's made sense in the whole damn thread!


Love is for the weak.

Which then means that this lack of love that you feel Europe is showing you is actually a sign of strength - not cowardice!

:twisted:

-Z-


A Tactical gas attack would be funny in Paris. :wink:

That's about as funny as a burning orphanage.

You missed the joke.Tactical Fart Attack

I didn't miss it.. you're about the funniest thing I've seen to hit General in a long, long time. Hehe.. I doubt your fellow Americans would even want to touch this one given your extreme intellectual skills and debating abilities..lol ;)
Kernlandia
15-03-2004, 07:53
I have met enough of those things to last a lifetime.

those things? i take umbrage to that. severe umbrage.

especially since i doubt you can trace yourself to 100% pure american stock-which is mixed european anyways.

so it totally makes sense for you to call them things, since i'm sure you have some european ancestry.


There are other people on this planet besides whites you know. :P

yeah, i do know-and i also know that there are relatively few people who have no european in them. the europeans were fairly prolific.
Rosarita
15-03-2004, 07:53
I would venture to say I'm fairly sure of that, unless they're really that illogical. In which case I fear for our children.
Tactical Grace
15-03-2004, 07:54
you've got to be some attention whore puppet. that's all i've gleaned from this debate.
No, CU is a primary nation, not a puppet. He really does believe what he is saying.
Kernlandia
15-03-2004, 07:54
I would venture to say I'm fairly sure of that, unless they're really that illogical. In which case I fear for our children.

you have children! for shame, for shame!
15-03-2004, 07:55
I have met enough of those things to last a lifetime.

those things? i take umbrage to that. severe umbrage.

especially since i doubt you can trace yourself to 100% pure american stock-which is mixed european anyways.

so it totally makes sense for you to call them things, since i'm sure you have some european ancestry.


There are other people on this planet besides whites you know. :P

yeah, i do know-and i also know that there are relatively few people who have no european in them. the europeans were fairly prolific.


You're dumber than I thought. I guess people from Fiji are European to?
Sydia
15-03-2004, 07:55
I have met enough of those things to last a lifetime. "those things"? Because if you're European, you're not a person.


Finally, somebody gets it.

http://quicksitebuilder.cnet.com/sartrejp/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/bush-pope.jpg

I'm almost 100% sure you'll have European blood in you.


None, zero , Zilch! Nice FAKE pic!

How long'd it take you that to figure out, Einstein? Oh wait, Einstein was European, and therefore not a person......idiot.
Kernlandia
15-03-2004, 07:55
you've got to be some attention whore puppet. that's all i've gleaned from this debate.
No, CU is a primary nation, not a puppet. He really does believe what he is saying.

dear sweet lord. then subtract the puppet, and leave the attention whore.
15-03-2004, 07:55
you've got to be some attention whore puppet. that's all i've gleaned from this debate.
No, CU is a primary nation, not a puppet. He really does believe what he is saying.


You're wrong on both accounts. :lol:
Rosarita
15-03-2004, 07:56
you've got to be some attention whore puppet. that's all i've gleaned from this debate.
No, CU is a primary nation, not a puppet. He really does believe what he is saying.

dear sweet lord. then subtract the puppet, and leave the attention whore. and add "most excellent debater"
Tactical Grace
15-03-2004, 07:56
Actually, having CU around could be fun, if he manages to accidentally do damage to the conservative position.
Kernlandia
15-03-2004, 07:57
double post
15-03-2004, 07:57
Actually, having CU around could be fun, if he manages to accidentally do damage to the conservative position.


Good Lord. :roll:
Kernlandia
15-03-2004, 07:57
You're dumber than I thought. I guess people from Fiji are European to?

you accuse us of not paying attention to what you say! so mark my words, champ.

no, the natives of fiji would not be european. however, i'm sure there are fiji natives out there who have children of mixed fiji and european descent. news flash: people from different countries do marry and have children with people from other countries. it's not a wholly internal event, you know. that would eventually cause inbreeding, anyway. of which you seem to be a product of. tell me, is your mother your aunt and your father your brother?
Rosarita
15-03-2004, 07:58
You're dumber than I thought. I guess people from Fiji are European to?

you accuse us of not paying attention to what you say! so mark my words, champ.

no, the natives of fiji would not be european. however, i'm sure there are fiji natives out there who have children of mixed fiji and european descent. news flash: people from different countries do marry and have children with people from other countries. it's not a wholly internal event, you know. that would eventually cause inbreeding, anyway. Yay for inbreeding! Who doesn't want children with 3 arms and a hunchback?
Stephistan
15-03-2004, 07:58
you've got to be some attention whore puppet. that's all i've gleaned from this debate.
No, CU is a primary nation, not a puppet. He really does believe what he is saying.

dear sweet lord. then subtract the puppet, and leave the attention whore. and add "most excellent debater"

Don't forget intellectual giant! LMAO! :mrgreen:
Sydia
15-03-2004, 07:58
Actually, having CU around could be fun, if he manages to accidentally do damage to the conservative position.

Hmm, I never thought of it that way. Carry on, CU, by all means!
Zeppistan
15-03-2004, 07:58
You're dumber than I thought. I guess people from Fiji are European to?

Hmmm ... given that Fiji isn' on the list of the coalition of the willing (http://cpa-iraq.org/pressreleases/20031211_Coalition_Country_List.pdf) either that I can see.... and given that this seems to be your big complaint about Europe (i.e. not backing the US) then I guess you are descended from a non-european group of non-people....


:twisted:

-Z-
15-03-2004, 07:59
You're dumber than I thought. I guess people from Fiji are European to?

you accuse us of not paying attention to what you say! so mark my words, champ.

no, the natives of fiji would not be european. however, i'm sure there are fiji natives out there who have children of mixed fiji and european descent. news flash: people from different countries do marry and have children with people from other countries. it's not a wholly internal event, you know. that would eventually cause inbreeding, anyway. of which you seem to be a product of. tell me, is your mother your aunt and your father your brother?


I guess the mods will let that flame go?
Kernlandia
15-03-2004, 07:59
Yay for inbreeding! Who doesn't want children with 3 arms and a hunchback?

oh! oh! pick me! i want handicapped kids!
Sydia
15-03-2004, 07:59
You're dumber than I thought. I guess people from Fiji are European to?

you accuse us of not paying attention to what you say! so mark my words, champ.

no, the natives of fiji would not be european. however, i'm sure there are fiji natives out there who have children of mixed fiji and european descent. news flash: people from different countries do marry and have children with people from other countries. it's not a wholly internal event, you know. that would eventually cause inbreeding, anyway. of which you seem to be a product of. tell me, is your mother your aunt and your father your brother?


I guess the mods will let that flame go?

Compared to your torrent of offensive horseshit, it's lightweight.
15-03-2004, 08:00
you've got to be some attention whore puppet. that's all i've gleaned from this debate.
No, CU is a primary nation, not a puppet. He really does believe what he is saying.

dear sweet lord. then subtract the puppet, and leave the attention whore. and add "most excellent debater"

Don't forget intellectual giant! LMAO! :mrgreen:


I guess mods can break any rule they want?
Kernlandia
15-03-2004, 08:00
You're dumber than I thought. I guess people from Fiji are European to?

you accuse us of not paying attention to what you say! so mark my words, champ.

no, the natives of fiji would not be european. however, i'm sure there are fiji natives out there who have children of mixed fiji and european descent. news flash: people from different countries do marry and have children with people from other countries. it's not a wholly internal event, you know. that would eventually cause inbreeding, anyway. of which you seem to be a product of. tell me, is your mother your aunt and your father your brother?


I guess the mods will let that flame go?

they've let you go so far....you should be grateful. if they feel the need to delete me for that, then so be it.
Saskatoon Saskatchewan
15-03-2004, 08:00
You're dumber than I thought. I guess people from Fiji are European to?

you accuse us of not paying attention to what you say! so mark my words, champ.

no, the natives of fiji would not be european. however, i'm sure there are fiji natives out there who have children of mixed fiji and european descent. news flash: people from different countries do marry and have children with people from other countries. it's not a wholly internal event, you know. that would eventually cause inbreeding, anyway. of which you seem to be a product of. tell me, is your mother your aunt and your father your brother?


I guess the mods will let that flame go?
how do you figure, its a legit question.
15-03-2004, 08:00
You're dumber than I thought. I guess people from Fiji are European to?

you accuse us of not paying attention to what you say! so mark my words, champ.

no, the natives of fiji would not be european. however, i'm sure there are fiji natives out there who have children of mixed fiji and european descent. news flash: people from different countries do marry and have children with people from other countries. it's not a wholly internal event, you know. that would eventually cause inbreeding, anyway. of which you seem to be a product of. tell me, is your mother your aunt and your father your brother?


I guess the mods will let that flame go?
how do you figure, its a legit question.

It was a flame.
Tactical Grace
15-03-2004, 08:02
You're dumber than I thought. I guess people from Fiji are European to?
you accuse us of not paying attention to what you say! so mark my words, champ.

no, the natives of fiji would not be european. however, i'm sure there are fiji natives out there who have children of mixed fiji and european descent. news flash: people from different countries do marry and have children with people from other countries. it's not a wholly internal event, you know. that would eventually cause inbreeding, anyway. of which you seem to be a product of. tell me, is your mother your aunt and your father your brother?
I guess the mods will let that flame go?
Well, yes, unless you want note to be taken of the nested quote above, and the "Moron" comment earlier you made earlier, etc, etc. I would have to be even-handed, you see. ;)
Kernlandia
15-03-2004, 08:03
You're dumber than I thought. I guess people from Fiji are European to?
you accuse us of not paying attention to what you say! so mark my words, champ.

no, the natives of fiji would not be european. however, i'm sure there are fiji natives out there who have children of mixed fiji and european descent. news flash: people from different countries do marry and have children with people from other countries. it's not a wholly internal event, you know. that would eventually cause inbreeding, anyway. of which you seem to be a product of. tell me, is your mother your aunt and your father your brother?
I guess the mods will let that flame go?
Well, yes, unless you want note to be taken of the nested quote above, and the "Moron" comment earlier you made earlier, etc, etc. I would have to be even-handed, you see. ;)

grace, do as you see fit. if that really was bannable, then i won't complain.

if not, then good times!
15-03-2004, 08:03
You're dumber than I thought. I guess people from Fiji are European to?
you accuse us of not paying attention to what you say! so mark my words, champ.

no, the natives of fiji would not be european. however, i'm sure there are fiji natives out there who have children of mixed fiji and european descent. news flash: people from different countries do marry and have children with people from other countries. it's not a wholly internal event, you know. that would eventually cause inbreeding, anyway. of which you seem to be a product of. tell me, is your mother your aunt and your father your brother?
I guess the mods will let that flame go?
Well, yes, unless you want note to be taken of the nested quote above, and the "Moron" comment earlier you made earlier, etc, etc. I would have to be even-handed, you see. ;)

Why not just delete the whole thread?
Stephistan
15-03-2004, 08:04
you've got to be some attention whore puppet. that's all i've gleaned from this debate.
No, CU is a primary nation, not a puppet. He really does believe what he is saying.

dear sweet lord. then subtract the puppet, and leave the attention whore. and add "most excellent debater"

Don't forget intellectual giant! LMAO! :mrgreen:


I guess mods can break any rule they want?

Ok. so one above this you said you were being flamed.. not you accuse me of breaking the rules.. Should I take that as you're asking for mod help here? Sorry hun, you dug yourself deep in this one.. you can dig yourself out. Leaving the thread before it goes any further might not be a bad idea. Trust me, you're not going to win this one. I'd accept defeat if I was you.. but I'm not.. your choice.
Tactical Grace
15-03-2004, 08:04
I guess mods can break any rule they want?
No, of course not. We just know where the boundaries lie. There is a fine line between sarcastic humour and flamebait.
Kernlandia
15-03-2004, 08:04
well, i'm going to bed, so i guess i'll find out the results tomorrow.
Sydia
15-03-2004, 08:05
You're dumber than I thought. I guess people from Fiji are European to?
you accuse us of not paying attention to what you say! so mark my words, champ.

no, the natives of fiji would not be european. however, i'm sure there are fiji natives out there who have children of mixed fiji and european descent. news flash: people from different countries do marry and have children with people from other countries. it's not a wholly internal event, you know. that would eventually cause inbreeding, anyway. of which you seem to be a product of. tell me, is your mother your aunt and your father your brother?
I guess the mods will let that flame go?
Well, yes, unless you want note to be taken of the nested quote above, and the "Moron" comment earlier you made earlier, etc, etc. I would have to be even-handed, you see. ;)

Why not just delete the whole thread?

First logical sentance you've managed to bash into the keyboard all thread!
The Great Leveller
15-03-2004, 08:05
It was a flame.

Look on the bright side. You weren't denied your humanity.

Something that you have done to over half the people in the world
15-03-2004, 08:05
you've got to be some attention whore puppet. that's all i've gleaned from this debate.
No, CU is a primary nation, not a puppet. He really does believe what he is saying.

dear sweet lord. then subtract the puppet, and leave the attention whore. and add "most excellent debater"

Don't forget intellectual giant! LMAO! :mrgreen:


I guess mods can break any rule they want?

Ok. so one above this you said you were being flamed.. not you accuse me of breaking the rules.. Should I take that as you're asking for mod help here? Sorry hun, you dug yourself deep in this one.. you can dig yourself out. Leaving the thread before it goes any further might not be a bad idea. Trust me, you're not going to win this one. I'd accept defeat if I was you.. but I'm not.. your choice.


I never lose. Just delete the whole thread.
Tactical Grace
15-03-2004, 08:05
For the record, I am keeping this thread open, and not taking action against anyone. It has been too much fun. :D
Zeppistan
15-03-2004, 08:06
I guess mods can break any rule they want?
No, of course not. We just know where the boundaries lie. There is a fine line between sarcastic humour and flamebait.

For a person who has called people on this thread, "things", "cowards" and "moron"... to then complain about being called an intellectual giant... is hilarious!

-Z-
Rosarita
15-03-2004, 08:06
"I never lose. Just delete the whole thread" er, I fail to see the reasoning. If you are so proud of your arguments, you should have no problem with leaving it open.
Tactical Grace
15-03-2004, 08:06
It was a flame.
Look on the bright side. You weren't denied your humanity.

Something that you have done to over half the people in the world
:lol: LMAO! :lol:
15-03-2004, 08:07
For the record, I am keeping this thread open, and not taking action against anyone. It has been too much fun. :D


I could kill your good time in a second, get rid of this thread before I do something we both will regret. :P
Kernlandia
15-03-2004, 08:07
For the record, I am keeping this thread open, and not taking action against anyone. It has been too much fun. :D
well, darling, it was lovely to talk to you again. or at least partake of a debate with you.

adios, everyone! i'm off to bed.
Sydia
15-03-2004, 08:07
Hear Hear.
Tis a veritable testament to stupidity.

You never lose, CU? You've had your arse owned seven ways from sunday in this thread, bub. Methinks it's a bit late.
Tactical Grace
15-03-2004, 08:08
I never lose. Just delete the whole thread.
No.

The official stamp of pwnership:

http://www.bigwig.net/~bbw10606/pwned.gif
Tactical Grace
UN Delegate / Minister of War / Defence Consultancy
Mercia The Next Generation (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_region/region=Mercia_The_Next_Generation)
Stephistan
15-03-2004, 08:11
you've got to be some attention whore puppet. that's all i've gleaned from this debate.
No, CU is a primary nation, not a puppet. He really does believe what he is saying.

dear sweet lord. then subtract the puppet, and leave the attention whore. and add "most excellent debater"

Don't forget intellectual giant! LMAO! :mrgreen:


I guess mods can break any rule they want?

Ok. so one above this you said you were being flamed.. not you accuse me of breaking the rules.. Should I take that as you're asking for mod help here? Sorry hun, you dug yourself deep in this one.. you can dig yourself out. Leaving the thread before it goes any further might not be a bad idea. Trust me, you're not going to win this one. I'd accept defeat if I was you.. but I'm not.. your choice.


I never lose. Just delete the whole thread.

If you decide to commit SBM that is your choice. However the best you're going to get is the thread locked and yourself deleted. So, you can let it ride and take it with a sense of humor.. you can keep debating in a mature fashion.. you can leave it and chalk it up to another debate on the General forum.. you can commit SBM.. but this thread will not be deleted. We don't delete threads when there has been so much interest in them. We only delete spam. Or some times at the request of the first poster we will lock a thread.. however, I will not grant that request if you're asking for it to be locked on the grounds that you're losing a debate. *DENIED*
Callisdrun
15-03-2004, 08:11
I think this thread doesn't really have much of a future...

I'd like to say, as an American, that CU is in no way representative of my country. I am not saying Hussein was not a bad guy, it's just he was a bad guy who had no connection to the real culprits of September 11th. We should have been going after OBL, not some egotistical dictator in Iraq. Also, the whole "he does such horrible things to his people" argument is pure BS. If we really cared about that kind of thing we'd invade: Saudi Arabia, China, North Korea, Iran, Belarus and so many countries in Africa.
Tactical Grace
15-03-2004, 08:11
well, darling, it was lovely to talk to you again. or at least partake of a debate with you.

adios, everyone! i'm off to bed.
Goodnight, Kernel.

May your dreams remain untroubled by windows opened on your soul.
Tactical Grace
15-03-2004, 08:13
For a person who has called people on this thread, "things", "cowards" and "moron"... to then complain about being called an intellectual giant... is hilarious!
Quite.
15-03-2004, 08:13
you've got to be some attention whore puppet. that's all i've gleaned from this debate.
No, CU is a primary nation, not a puppet. He really does believe what he is saying.

dear sweet lord. then subtract the puppet, and leave the attention whore. and add "most excellent debater"

Don't forget intellectual giant! LMAO! :mrgreen:


I guess mods can break any rule they want?

Ok. so one above this you said you were being flamed.. not you accuse me of breaking the rules.. Should I take that as you're asking for mod help here? Sorry hun, you dug yourself deep in this one.. you can dig yourself out. Leaving the thread before it goes any further might not be a bad idea. Trust me, you're not going to win this one. I'd accept defeat if I was you.. but I'm not.. your choice.


I never lose. Just delete the whole thread.

If you decide to commit SBM that is your choice. However the best you're going to get is the thread locked and yourself deleted. So, you can let it ride and take it with a sense of humor.. you can keep debating in a mature fashion.. you can leave it and chalk it up to another debate on the General forum.. you can commit SBM.. but this thread will not be deleted. We don't delete threads when there has been so much interest in them. We only delete spam. Or some times at the request of the first poster we will lock a thread.. however, I will not grant that request if you're asking for it to be locked on the grounds that you're losing a debate. *DENIED*


I don't care if you delete me, just lock this thread before I post something that could get me shot.
Freedomstein
15-03-2004, 08:13
maybe spain just wants to attone for old sins. it used to be a colonizer, maybe it sees itself as part of the problem when it comes to terorism. the us hasnt been to worried about spreading democracy so much as its own interests. the us thinks it belongs in lots of place it doesnt. it thinks that it should decide how every country should govern itself and sees its meddling backfire every time. there was a time when iran held elections, they elected a man named mussadeq. the us couldnt handle that he was a socialist, so they financed a coup. the iranian people didnt want a dictatorship, and the us showed them they couldnt democratically elect a leader, so they chose to support a hardline government that would stop us interference. the story repeats itself throughout the islamic world (including iraq). the us wont let arabic countries decide their own fate. they see fundamentalism as the only alternative to us intervention. and the fundamentalists cant fight the us with guns or tanks, so they have to resort to other tactics. one of these tactics is terrorism. its the only way they can compete. terrorism is awful and it attacks people that are relativly innocent, but then couldnt the same be said about american bombs and collateral damage? dont get me wrong, i hate the terrorists as much as the next guy. i hate death and destruction in all its forms. im just trying to show that these arent nameless faceless monsters who woke up one day and decided to hate a random group of people.

oh, and one other thing, americans are innocent just like collateral damage is innocent. nothing justifies killing non-combatants, period. spain learned that yesterday. or two days ago, now. sorry for not posting a flame.
Zeppistan
15-03-2004, 08:13
I never lose.....

The fact that you keep talking does not make you a "winner"

You can keep saying the earth is flat until people stop listening.... doesn't make it true.

But if it makes you feel better about yourself... go ahead. Keep talking. I'm bored of it.

-Z-
Tactical Grace
15-03-2004, 08:16
I don't care if you delete me, just lock this thread before I post something that could get me shot.
Sorry, that is against our policy. And why would you say anything bad? There is no need.
15-03-2004, 08:17
I am about to SBM, Be right back, I need to find a pic, but If this thread is locked when I get back, I won't post this pic.
15-03-2004, 08:17
I don't care if you delete me, just lock this thread before I post something that could get me shot.
Sorry, that is against our policy. And why would you say anything bad? There is no need.


Dirty Pick of something TG, Lock the thread, I beg you! The world begs you!
Tactical Grace
15-03-2004, 08:18
sorry for not posting a flame.
That's OK, this is an equal opportunities thread. Non-flamers are most welcome. :D
Tactical Grace
15-03-2004, 08:19
I am about to SBM, Be right back, I need to find a pic, but If this thread is locked when I get back, I won't post this pic.
Why would you want to do that? What would you gain? There is no need.
Stephistan
15-03-2004, 08:19
I am about to SBM, Be right back, I need to find a pic, but If this thread is locked when I get back, I won't post this pic.

I am warning you.. think before you act. I will delete the pic and you.. but not the thread if you choose this course of action. I advise against it.

Stephanie
Game Moderator
15-03-2004, 08:21
I am about to SBM, Be right back, I need to find a pic, but If this thread is locked when I get back, I won't post this pic.

I am warning you.. think before you act. I will delete the pic and you.. but not the thread if you choose this course of action. I advise againt it.

Stephanie
Game Moderator


Lock the thread Steph, trust me! Save yourself the trouble!
Sydia
15-03-2004, 08:22
Pardon my ignorance, but what is SBM?
Tactical Grace
15-03-2004, 08:22
Lock the thread Steph, trust me! Save yourself the trouble!
But why? There is no reason!
Tactical Grace
15-03-2004, 08:22
Pardon my ignorance, but what is SBM?
Suicide-by-Mod.
15-03-2004, 08:22
Lock the thread Steph, trust me! Save yourself the trouble!
But why? There is no reason!


Trust me, Just lock the thread, I beg you!



Countdown 10
Callisdrun
15-03-2004, 08:23
the suspense...
15-03-2004, 08:24
9,8,7,6,5
Stephistan
15-03-2004, 08:25
9,8,7,6,5

It's your funeral.. why not just walk away..
15-03-2004, 08:25
9,8,7,6,5

It's your funeral.. why not just walk away..


Just lock the thread?


4
Tactical Grace
15-03-2004, 08:26
Sigh. God, I have lost a couple of arguments in my time, but I walked away with more dignity than porn spamming. Why bother? Just chalk it up to experience.
Stephistan
15-03-2004, 08:27
9,8,7,6,5

It's your funeral.. why not just walk away..


Just lock the thread?


4

No can do.. I won't buckle to threats. That would be like giving into terrorism wouldn't it?
15-03-2004, 08:27
Lock it!




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