NationStates Jolt Archive


Metus (Invite only)

imported_Kalessin
18-01-2004, 02:21
Count Gorhilsje led General Rand and The Great Ineffable Bob through a small door at the back of the chamber, which had previously been hidden from sight behind a curtain. From there, the trio strode for quite some way through the maze that was Melkor's palace, until they came to a small door that had been made from some strange, black metal, and which was covered in complex runes that glowed with a faint red light. On either side of the door stood a tall, red-cloaked Kalessini warrior, clad in full ceremonial armour, with a breastplate, greaves and bracers of solid silver, and a high helm of the same metal, upon which was planted a plume of bright red silk, and each held in his hand a great halberd, the shaft covered in intricate designs.

They stopped at the door, and the Count made a complex gesture with his hand. Then, the door slid noiselessly open, and they stepped through into a room filled with soft white light. There were no windows in sight, but nevertheless, the atmosphere was almost like that of the open-air, and the waters of a fountain played in the centre of the room, filling the ears of the three with its musical tinkling.

Gorhilsje then guided his two companions toward a simple door of wood which was set into the western wall of the entrance-chamber, and through into a small room, the only furnishings of which were a table of solid oak, and three matching chairs. Upon the desk was a document, to which the Count motioned casually.

"While we were in Council, I had my assistants draw this up."

1. Should any member of the alliance known as Metus suffer an unprovoked attack, all members of Metus must provide military aid both in order to protect the victim, and to retaliate against the aggressor.

a. The decision of whether an attack is deemed ‘unprovoked’ or not in any given situation rests in the hands of the Speaker.

b. The precise level of military aid that each nation must provide in any given situation shall be determined by the Speaker, in collaboration with the Councillor representing the sub-alliance to which the nation in question belongs.

2. The Speaker may, at any point, declare a nation, region, alliance or individual to be an enemy of Metus. All members of Metus must immediately cease all trade, whether in goods or currency, with that nation, region, alliance or individual, and contribute military forces to any military operations which the Speaker wishes to engage upon as the Speaker sees fit.

a. The precise level of military aid that each nation must provide in any given situation shall be determined by the Speaker, in collaboration with the Councillor representing the sub-alliance to which the nation in question belongs.

b. Any Councillor may veto a nation or individual from being named as an enemy of Metus, unless overruled by the other two councillors.

c. The Speaker must consult with at least one Councillor before declaring a nation, region, alliance or individual to be an enemy of Metus.

3. No member of Metus may engage in any form of trade, whether in goods or currency, or in any form of military alliance, with the nation known as Menelmacar.

4. The Speaker is to be Lord Melkor of Melkor Unchained.

a. Should the Speaker become temporarily incommunicado, his duties shall be discharged by his chosen heir.

b. Should both the Speaker and his chosen heir by temporarily incommunicado, their duties shall be discharged by the Council.

5. The three Councillors are to be President Matthew Iesus of Iesus Christi and the Reich, the Emperor of Kalessin, representing Arda, and The Great Ineffable Bob of The Silver Turtle and GDODAD.

a. Should the Speaker or any Councillor become deceased or permanently incommunicado, he shall be replaced by his chosen heir.

b. The Speaker may be removed from office, and his duties discharged by the Council, should all three Councillors concur upon a vote of no confidence.

6. All nations currently within the alliances known as Arda, GDODAD and The Reich are henceforth members of Metus, and any nations who join said alliances will also automatically become members of Metus. A nation or region may join Metus without already being a member of one of these alliances only with the express permission of the Speaker.

a. The Speaker may, at any point, remove a nation from Metus. Nations led by members of the Council may not be removed.

7. All Metus-related propaganda must be sanctioned by the Speaker.

8. Should the Speaker or any Councillor nominate a representative to speak for him, said representative shall be deemed to speak with his full authority.

9. No nation within Metus may declare war on any nation, region or alliance without first gaining permission from the Speaker or a Councillor.
Barbarosea
18-01-2004, 02:32
*tag*

OOC: Number 9 seems kinda, odd. I mean, I think we should be able to wage war on whoever we want, but if we want to wage war in the name of Metus, then we must ask first.
Sketch
18-01-2004, 02:40
*tags with a vengeance*
The Brotherhood of Nod
18-01-2004, 11:49
*tag*

OOC: Number 9 seems kinda, odd. I mean, I think we should be able to wage war on whoever we want, but if we want to wage war in the name of Metus, then we must ask first.

t3h b|_|/\/\p4g3

OOC: I think the point is that Metus member don't attack nations another (high-ranking?) Metus member might have interests in.
Iesus Christi
18-01-2004, 13:08
General Rand nods and reads
OOC:short term tag and all /ASAP reply coming.
Danneland
19-01-2004, 10:03
tag

OOC: I'l agree that number 9 seems a little odd.
Wretchengard
20-01-2004, 21:56
*TAGGAGE*

OOC: And I'll have to agree with Barbarosea on point #9.
Wretchengard
20-01-2004, 21:56
*TAGGAGE*

OOC: And I'll have to agree with Barbarosea on point #9.
imported_Kalessin
21-01-2004, 01:24
OOC: *Bumps into the rather perceptive Brotherhood of Nod*
The Silver Turtle
21-01-2004, 15:01
*bumps into the thread, :wink: *
IC:
"After a breif read-through, it seems aceptable. However, I believe number 9 could do with a slight change?
9. No nation within Metus may declare war on any nation, region or alliance without first gaining permission from the Speaker or a Councillor, or having been already attacked by said proposed enemy.

OOC: Not been able to post for some reason, damn forums...
Tasty Foods
22-01-2004, 01:13
OOC:

Ummm...I'm a member of GDODAD...so do I get to post?

Sorry I'm a little confused. :wink:
imported_Kalessin
22-01-2004, 01:57
OOC:

re: Tasty Foods: No!

IC:

The Count smiled genially at Bob,

"I think that clause 9 works rather nicely as it is. Your proposed change would only reduce your personal influence in this alliance......"
The Brotherhood of Nod
22-01-2004, 12:18
OOC: but that would also imply we can't counterattack other nations until a high-ranking member comes online.
Barbarosea
22-01-2004, 14:26
OOC: Yes, and it would mean that if we needed to help an ally, we couldn't until a high-ranking offical approved it.
The Brotherhood of Nod
22-01-2004, 17:15
OOC: In other words, this is also a bad idea for OOC reasons, any IC reasons aside.
The Silver Turtle
22-01-2004, 21:04
"Admittedly it would. However, the reduction would be minimal, while it would still allow our members to defend themselves if attacked. Look at it this way. If a Metus member was nuked, they would have to sit there and be glassed until one of us looked over and said it was okay for them to fight back. My amendmant would allow them to fight back and defend themselves, allowing them a certain degree of freedom while still keeping them under our chains. This way the aim of the original is preserved, while it will also not annoy our members who feel we are restricting their defence options."

OOC: I'm sorry but I really must agree with my friends.
imported_Kalessin
23-01-2004, 03:01
The Count nodded faintly;

"As you wish.. but I feel that this would be a better amendment."

9. No nation within Metus may declare war on any nation, region or alliance without first gaining permission from the Speaker or a Councillor

a. Should a nation be subject to an unprovoked attack, an unauthorised declaration of war upon the perpetrator shall be permitted, as long as it takes place within twenty-four hours of the original incident.

b. The decision of whether an attack is deemed ‘unprovoked’ or not in any given situation rests in the hands of the Speaker, who shall judge each case retrospectively.

10. No nation other than the Speaker may claim to suggest that they speak for Metus, or use Metus to threaten or bribe any individual, nation, alliance or region.
The Brotherhood of Nod
23-01-2004, 12:07
OOC: Sounds good.
The Silver Turtle
23-01-2004, 12:16
"Agreed. Mine was merely a suggestion, and I too feel yours is better worded.
Kanuckistan
23-01-2004, 16:16
OOC: but that would also imply we can't counterattack other nations until a high-ranking member comes online.

OOC:
Who says you need to officially declar war to attack someone? Never stoped the U.S. :wink:

*flees befor a stray alliance steps on him*
The Silver Turtle
27-01-2004, 19:19
The Silver Turtle
27-01-2004, 19:20
The Great Ineffable Bob gives a little cough and puts his drink down on the table, causing a little bump.
"Shall we be signing this then? The day grows old."
imported_Kalessin
28-01-2004, 00:22
The Count grinned;

"We'll just add one more clause, and then we can sign. I apologise for omitting this earlier."

11. This treaty may be altered only by the unanimous agreement of the Speaker and all three Councillors.

"Just in case circumstances change..."
imported_Kalessin
28-01-2004, 00:34
1. Should any member of the alliance known as Metus suffer an unprovoked attack, all members of Metus must provide military aid both in order to protect the victim, and to retaliate against the aggressor.

a. The decision of whether an attack is deemed ‘unprovoked’ or not in any given situation rests in the hands of the Speaker.

b. The precise level of military aid that each nation must provide in any given situation shall be determined by the Speaker, in collaboration with the Councillor representing the sub-alliance to which the nation in question belongs.

2. The Speaker may, at any point, declare a nation, region, alliance or individual to be an enemy of Metus. All members of Metus must immediately cease all trade, whether in goods or currency, with that nation, region, alliance or individual, and contribute military forces to any military operations which the Speaker wishes to engage upon as the Speaker sees fit.

a. The precise level of military aid that each nation must provide in any given situation shall be determined by the Speaker, in collaboration with the Councillor representing the sub-alliance to which the nation in question belongs.

b. Any Councillor may veto a nation or individual from being named as an enemy of Metus, unless overruled by the other two councillors.

c. The Speaker must consult with at least one Councillor before declaring a nation, region, alliance or individual to be an enemy of Metus.

3. No member of Metus may engage in any form of trade, whether in goods or currency, or in any form of military alliance, with the nation known as Menelmacar.

4. The Speaker is to be Lord Melkor of Melkor Unchained.

a. Should the Speaker become temporarily incommunicado, his duties shall be discharged by his chosen heir.

b. Should both the Speaker and his chosen heir by temporarily incommunicado, their duties shall be discharged by the Council.

5. The three Councillors are to be President Matthew Iesus of Iesus Christi and the Reich, the Emperor of Kalessin, representing Arda, and The Great Ineffable Bob of The Silver Turtle and GDODAD.

a. Should the Speaker or any Councillor become deceased or permanently incommunicado, he shall be replaced by his chosen heir.

b. The Speaker may be removed from office, and his duties discharged by the Council, should all three Councillors concur upon a vote of no confidence.

6. All nations currently within the alliances known as Arda, GDODAD and The Reich are henceforth members of Metus, and any nations who join said alliances will also automatically become members of Metus. A nation or region may join Metus without already being a member of one of these alliances only with the express permission of the Speaker.

a. The Speaker may, at any point, remove a nation from Metus. Nations led by members of the Council may not be removed.

7. All Metus-related propaganda must be sanctioned by the Speaker.

8. Should the Speaker or any Councillor nominate a representative to speak for him, said representative shall be deemed to speak with his full authority.

9. No nation within Metus may declare war on any nation, region or alliance without first gaining permission from the Speaker or a Councillor

a. Should a nation be subject to an unprovoked attack, an unauthorised declaration of war upon the perpetrator shall be permitted, as long as it takes place within twenty-four hours of the original incident.

b. The decision of whether an attack is deemed ‘unprovoked’ or not in any given situation rests in the hands of the Speaker, who shall judge each case retrospectively.

10. No nation other than the Speaker may claim to or suggest that they speak for Metus, or use Metus to threaten or bribe any individual, nation, alliance or region.

11. This treaty may be altered only by the unanimous agreement of the Speaker and all three Councillors.
Danneland
28-01-2004, 08:48
ooc: a bump and get this signed!
Presgreif
28-01-2004, 09:00
I'm sorry, but I don't agree with 9. Actually, I openly protest. No council will dictate my nations foreign policy to me. I'm supposed to ask your permission to go to war with another nation? You've got to be kidding me...
Melkor Unchained
28-01-2004, 09:56
I'm sorry, but I don't agree with 9. Actually, I openly protest. No council will dictate my nations foreign policy to me. I'm supposed to ask your permission to go to war with another nation? You've got to be kidding me...

[ooc: Kal- I told you we'd have to back down on number Nine, man. We'll examine/hack/discard/retool it in mIRC and repost.]
imported_Kalessin
28-01-2004, 12:09
[OOC: I have reworked it...(and all you have to ask is TST..your own alliance leader...is that so hard Presgrief?)...the above variant is actually TST's modification of my original no.9 - reworded a bit, and all the ones who complained about my original wording seem happy enough now.]
The Silver Turtle
28-01-2004, 20:20
OOC: Pres, if you were attacking someone you'd have to tell us anyway. If it's a n00b then the Metus clause probably wouldn't apply (if it was a Metus puppet they could say anyway, and it's unlikely that a Metus nation would have interests in a nation that has one or two posts to it's name (not including resurrected nations, the clause would of course apply). BTW, should we put something about that in? Teaching a n00b a lesson probably wouldn't compromise the object of the clause.
However, if it was a large nation you should tell us anyway so we'd be able to help, even if it's only in defence of you against retaliatory attacks.

Started kinda rambling there...
The Silver Turtle
29-01-2004, 14:16
TGI Bob smiled at the other delegates, and got out his pen.
"Very well. Shall we sign this? My people have already installed the necessary channels for safe communication."

OOC: By safe channels, I mean the new Metus forum (http://s3.invisionfree.com/Metus)
Presgreif
30-01-2004, 05:57
[OOC: I have reworked it...Presgrief is an selfish imbecile (and all you have to ask is TST..your own alliance leader...is that so hard Presgrief?)...the above variant is actually TST's modification of my original no.9 - reworded a bit, and all the ones who complained about my original wording seem happy enough now.]

I've noticed that whenever someone doesn't agree with you about something, you immediatly revert to insulting them. What a fine, virtuos, noble human being you are. Or is it that you don't have the imagination to provide a civilized arguement? I don't know about the others, but I must admit that I find it extremely difficult to respect you. Which is a pity, because we are allies.
In any case, I would ask that you refrain from verbaly abusing me in the future. I find it highly insulting and inapropriate, and will not tolerate being mistreated. Thank you and good day.
imported_Kalessin
30-01-2004, 15:10
OOC:

Presgrief: My most sincere apologies. I've put a lot of thought into this treaty, and so, when you continued to criticise a point even after it had been addressed, and the relevant injunction changes, I lost my temper. What I said was completely out of order.

IC:

Gorhilsje took up his quill, and signed the treaty with his own personal rune, before passing it to The Great Ineffable Bob.
Melkor Unchained
31-01-2004, 03:51
As if on cue, Alkanphel stalked into the room with a nod to the Kalessini guards. He stood behind Count Gorhilsje and clasped his hands behind his back. His eyes followed the quill as it was passed, and waited for the document to come around.
Presgreif
31-01-2004, 06:33
OOC:

Presgrief: My most sincere apologies. I've put a lot of thought into this treaty, and so, when you continued to criticise a point even after it had been addressed, and the relevant injunction changes, I lost my temper. What I said was completely out of order.

IC:

Gorhilsje took up his quill, and signed the treaty with his own personal rune, before passing it to The Great Ineffable Bob.

Apology accepted, no hard feelings. :wink:
The Silver Turtle
31-01-2004, 13:17
The Great Ineffable Bob signed the treaty with a flourish and passed it on.
Iesus Christi
01-02-2004, 00:48
General Rand signed with a grin

"A new age is upon us! a golden age free from metahuman and satanic powers!
Heil Metus! Heil Victory!"
Melkor Unchained
01-02-2004, 04:50
Alkanphel's eyes flashed and a wicked grin crept across his face as he slid out from behind the Count, and took up the quill. He hunched over for a moment, adding his name to the list. He sets the quill down with a sigh. "Today, my friends, the world will come to know a new fear. For too long we have been divided against the Elven menace. Now we are one," he concluded with a nod.

"I've been greatly anticipating this day, I'll admit. Safe to say we can all now adjourn?"

Lord Alkanphel
High Warlord of Lord Melkor's Imperium, First Counselor to Melkor Himself
http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/alkanphel1.jpg
Sketch
01-02-2004, 21:44
And it is done..........or is it?
The Silver Turtle
01-02-2004, 22:00
And it is done..........or is it?
OOC: Yes, it is.