NationStates Jolt Archive


War in LUE

Tactical Grace
30-12-2003, 16:12
Please note that I am participating here in my capacity as an official of MTNG, and not a Moderator.

Last night, in an action which I had no time to understand or get into, Blue Moon, Mercia The Next Generation, Kramerica and others successfully defended the region LUE from attackers from an unknown region.

Anyone have any information on the attackers and their beef with LUE?

Tactical Grace
Minister of War / Defence Consultancy, MTNG
Bardai
30-12-2003, 17:01
It's a VERY long story. As far as our records tell us, it starts sometime in october... I'd have to ask the others for confirmation.
Spoffin
30-12-2003, 17:42
There has been a lot of confusion

We are currently unsure as to whether this "defending" mission was all that it seemed. It would certainly be unlike Blue Moon's SOP if it was.

An investigation is underway, and we would appreciate anyone with information to post it here.
Ballotonia
30-12-2003, 18:04
The real question is now... has LUE been saved for the natives, or is it now under Blue Moon control? Will CnC R0x0rs my S0x0rs (Blue Moon) hand over the region back to the Natives (which is what is expected of defenders, it's what separates defenders from the other invaders), or will the natives now live under foreign control?

The WFE includes: "This region will remain a protectorate of Kramerica until it has stabilized".

Time will tell how this situation will evolve, and whether LUE has been saved or has fallen from the frying pan into the fire.

The invaders, BTW, were at least Creplaboy, JediMaster, and Speed Limit. They got the delegacy in FIRE N ICE (with Holy Molee's help, they took over a region with a whopping two non-UN natives) the day before, and wrote in that WFE: "This region has now been conquered by The Alliance Of Imperials. In honor of our friendship with Xenu, this region will be given to The Godhood Of The Real Xenu as a gift of loyalty."

Whether this means they are really loyal to The Real Xenu, and hence came in to support him in LUE instead of invading (which means that the current 'defenders' have actually invaded the region to help Kramerica take over LUE), or that it was just a ruse to try and not get noticed... who knows?

Ballotonia
Spoffin
30-12-2003, 18:10
Actually, there is an issue of wheter or not The Real Xenu actually owned/ operated/ was a native of the region in the past.

Also the fact that I trust Clarkus about as far as I can throw him, and even less when it appears that hes doing the right thing.
Spoffin
30-12-2003, 18:42
In MTNG regional happenings

You are liars!
The Real Xenu had nothing to do with that invasion. This was all a plot from Cosmo Kramerica to take the region from Xenu. They had a truce and Cosmo Kramerica broke it.
Well, well Mercians thank you for allowing Cosmo and Clarkus to invade Lue.
Real smart people.
Goobergunchia
30-12-2003, 19:57
Hmmm...passworded.
Bardai
30-12-2003, 21:28
Actually, there is an issue of wheter or not The Real Xenu actually owned/ operated/ was a native of the region in the past.

Also the fact that I trust Clarkus about as far as I can throw him, and even less when it appears that hes doing the right thing.

When I first ran into Xenu, his home region was LUE, or at least that's what the circumstances pointed at. And when I say "pointed", I mean "with fluorescent, flashing neon signs".
Spoffin
30-12-2003, 23:01
In a telegram
Heres the deal,
Ok this goes with a real long history of Lue which I'm not going to add unless it is necessary.
But first off Xenu and Cosmo Kramerica have been fighting since god knows when, this is really where all of this stems from.
Lue is an old region that down the line was pretty much abandoned. Cosmo Kramerica and everyone else out of there left after it got inactive.
Xenu and his group including me moved in there because we liked Lue and obviously nobody wanted it. The few nations that were left were not active and were eventually deleted because of inactivity.
So no one wanted it and no one complained that we were there for months. But eventually because Xenu and the group were there we started drawing attention and people started inhabiting the place again.
Well, Cosmo got jealous basically and since he had problems with Xenu anyway he tried to take Lue. A region he stated when he left he wanted nothing to do with.
This became a long drawn out battle for Lue that has been going on forever.
Right before I joined back with the Mercians Xenu decided to end the conflicts and create a truce with Kramerica. He made Lue holy ground and aloud Kramericans and Xenu people to converse together. All fights would be done outside of Lue. Which according to Xenu worked. I can only take his word for it since I was not there and no I am not Xenu.
Well, Cosmo decides to make war with The Alliance Of Imperials (an offshoot of ICW the invader region) and they invade Lue.
Xenu knows the alliance of imperials, and gets it called off. Cosmo decided to take this oppurtunity to get Xenu and co. thrown out of Lue. He gets Blue moon to help them and accuses Xenu of setting this whole thing up.
Xenu of course calls everyone and his mother to come help him defend the place from the kramerican and Blue Moon asurpers so out of respect for Xenu AOI goes back in there this time to defend the place from Kramerica so it looked like Xenu was protecting the region. Cosmo knew what was going on and started spreading all over the place that Xenu was invading Lue.
Basically Cosmo broke the truce to take control of Lue and backstabb Xenu.
Thats the deal. I asked on his behalf if others here could help him, since he's my friend and has helped Mercians in the past. I know Playa Chk new him from a long time ago on the game. So thats that.
Basically it looks like it is over now and Kramerica now has Lue.
Bardai
30-12-2003, 23:18
This is the same story I have -- I actually took part in the defence of LUE when they first invaded it a couple of months ago, when we thought that the most humiliating blow the GLA could deliver to crashers was defend them against each other (which it was, you should've seen them afterwards). But after the first time we went "nah, forget it" and since then it has been going on continuously. Will it ever end, we wonder? Or is this going to be like Florence, one party driving the other out every month or so?
Spoffin
30-12-2003, 23:35
This is the same story I have -- I actually took part in the defence of LUE when they first invaded it a couple of months ago, when we thought that the most humiliating blow the GLA could deliver to crashers was defend them against each other (which it was, you should've seen them afterwards). But after the first time we went "nah, forget it" and since then it has been going on continuously. Will it ever end, we wonder? Or is this going to be like Florence, one party driving the other out every month or so?Damn, that'd be cool.
Arkanarsk
30-12-2003, 23:50
Extracts from MTNG Regional HQ Board:

i just want 2 thank all nations who went 2 LUE to help me defend it from Creplaoy, which was working for The Real Xenu and Morvran Mab Tegid. so, thnx.

You are liars!
The Real Xenu had nothing to do with that invasion. This was all a plot from Cosmo Kramerica to take the region from Xenu. They had a truce and Cosmo Kramerica broke it.
Well, well Mercians thank you for allowing Cosmo and Clarkus to invade Lue.
Real smart people.

Ron is either a close ally of Xenu or Xenu himself

Go on google and look up Scientology. Look up who is the founder of scientology. Then look up Xenu and see what you find.

Yesterday, several invaders came into LUE. The same ones that took a region yesterday called Fire n Ice where I used to reside. Xenu had them take Fire N Ice to piss me off. He said it himself. Then of course they moved to LUE. Why? because Xenu wanted to break our treaty and piss me off.

Sorry...But Xenu just wants lue back cause it use to be hers.

says who..Xenu? LUE has no owner, it is one of the oldest regions in nationstates.

A close ally of Xenu I am Kramerica!!
That is no secret here. Everyone who knows me here knows that Xenu is my mate. Why should that be a problem.
Are you assuming that Mercians only help strangers.
Xenu I am not.
You will all have to excuse Cosmo Kramerica. That is one of his favorite lines. He likes to accuse people of being Xenu. Be careful.... one day you may be mistakenly called Xenu too.

Ron Hubbard was the nasty genius that created The Church Of Scientology. Yes!! It is true, my nations name is not an original name. But I thought it was a great name for an evil nation.
Back when I started this thing I decided to model a nation like the church of scientology. I started this in a region called California. It worked pretty well.
Then I ran into Xenu and knew why he called himself Xenu and we became pals.
So, thats that. The secret is out!!!
I have been found out!!!!
Of course I didn't know it was a secret, but hey I just own the nation.

It is also true that Lue has no owner but let me make this clear.
There is one little detail that Cosmo is forgetting.
Lue was abandoned by him and all the other Lue people. I remember Cosmo saying he wanted to have nothing to with Lue and start his own region.
All the original Lue people were going to let Lue die.
Xenu is the one who inhabited the place and made it active again.
Cosmo got jealous that Xenu had it and then wanted it again.
Cosmo is a liar and has always been a liar.
He picks on nations that can't even defend themselves. Those nations in there are not even in the UN.
He's nothing but a low life bully.

Cosmo Kramerica autoscripts out very annoying telegrams so, I'm a tad biased against him, but I missed the first half of ths conversation.

What is going on?

I can't help you since my UN nation is tied down, but I am curious now.

Kramerica and Blue Moon just got done invading Lue and there trying to pin it on the guy that actually lives there.
Qaaolchoura
31-12-2003, 00:43
Hmm. . . rather interesting.

Can you see about getting the password off Spof, TG, Ark, and/or Playa?

I'm sure that Goober and I are not the only ones who are interested in observing this.
31-12-2003, 01:32
31-12-2003, 01:32
This entire conflict in the end will bring Lues downfall.
I will tell you what this is all about.
This is all about Cosmo Kramerica's obsession with defeating Xenu. Anyone that knows anything about Xenu and Kramericas wars could tell you that Cosmo is not the least bit interested in Lue's salvation.
He took this as a chance to once again ruin Xenu.

Lue has no owner but the twisted fate that exists here is quite remarkable.
The only one that probably deserves Lue is Xenu. He is Lue's best promoter. If you ever deal with Xenu or any of his companions trust me you will know the name of Lue.
I really doubt its real creator even is still around. Cosmo Kramerica was its military cammander from long ago. But in the end he abandoned it when it became inactive, when that occured Xenu took the place over and did keep the place alive and get nations to join the place.
Then suddenly Cosmo Kramerica returns demanding Lue from Xenu.
As demented as that nut ball Xenu is I believe he actually cares about the place.
And I guarantee that Cosmo Kramerica will do what he has always done with Lue.
Hold it for a coupla weeks then get bored and let it go.
As I said before, This is Lue's downfall.
Lue was always the most boring region that was on this game until Xenu arrived. And with him gone it will get boring again, and get inactive, anyone who has spent time in Lue knows whats going to happen. Anyone that has resided in Lue was there for one reason. To watch the idiotic antics of Xenu.
Oh I'm sure Kramerica might leave a clone in there but other then that give it a coupla weeks and you can say Kramerica and Blue Moon killed Lue, one of the oldest regions on NS.
Now, I don't know who is right here, I know for a fact this is all about a personal war just from expierance.
But I will say this, Xenu deserves Lue as terrible as that sounds.

Grand Moff Tarkin
Arch-nemesis of Xenu and Cosmo Kramerica
Tactical Grace
31-12-2003, 02:02
Interesting. I had no idea there was so much history and so many personalities involved here. This first proper conflict thread is turning out to be quite intriguing.

Tactical Grace
Minister of War / Defence Consultancy, MTNG
Qaaolchoura
31-12-2003, 02:11
Indeed.

If all of the above is accurate, this is like an epic fantasy novel, and I'm going to be able to watch it's conclusion up close. :twisted:
Tactical Grace
31-12-2003, 02:28
We have seen some reaction from MTNG and the primary rivals for the region LUE - Kramerica and the opposing forces, apparently represented by Ron Hubbard. For an extra perspective, here are some extracts from the Blue Moon Regional HQ Board:

EVRY1! MOVE 2 LUE and endorse CnC r0x0rs my s0x0rs. we are defending it from Xenu.

WHAT, defending?

it'll be almost the same as invading, except we will preserve one of the most ancient regions in NS, and we will stop all further invasion attempts. but, it's all over now. the invaders have been expelled. some of you ppl should actually try defending regions some of the time. you get 2 eject people just the same. the only difference is you don't make the region a colony of your region. i just want to thank every1 who went over 2 help me out.

We have been successful in LUE. Congratulations everyone, especially RACAC.

--Emmett

way to go guys

If this conflict is anything to go by, it appears that the line between invaders and defenders might be blurred here in the extreme.

However, if Kramerica is the driving force behind the invasion, why is a Blue Moon nation (the self-exiled ex-Minister of War for MTNG) the Delegate of LUE? Considering that this time last night the region contained only 4 nations, and the war does indeed appear to be being waged purely for control of an ancient, historical but dead region, at what point will Blue Moon hand over power to Kramerica? I am most interested to hear opinions.

And yes, it appears that at the time of the invasion there were only 4 nations present in LUE. I saw this for myself. There may not be any natives to whom to hand back the region, and that was most likely never the intention. This does now appear to be a war fought for a historical name and not any coup or liberation agenda.

Tactical Grace
Minister of War / Defence Consultancy, MTNG
Angry Gerbils
31-12-2003, 02:31
Ah, good day my good fellows! I have just a few comments to make before I head back down to the pub..

First Ill start with the present.

Yesterday, Xenu had the attackers of LUE (speed limit..etc) invade the region that I lived in after I left LUE. This region was called Fire n Ice. Xenu then sends me a telegram saying "AHAAHAHAHAH FIRE N ICE IS MINE ALL MINE AHAHAHAHAHAHAH" Basically pissing me off. But I played it like I didnt care. Then, upon reading the regional happenings of Fire n Ice, I noticed that those invader nations had moved to LUE.
This distressed me.
Then I realized that these invaders were infact endorsing this crepldsayd or what ever his name is.. This greatly distressed me. At the time, I had LUE password protected. I shared this password (2dmaxxx) only with Xenu, which means Xenu gave them the password to take LUE.
There is no other way they could have got the password other then through Xenu. I shared the password with no one.
When I realized what happened, I cried foul and called in UN nations for emergency help. By the end of the day LUE had over 35 nations involved. (There were 4 nations in LUE before this conflict). This was a massive armageddon like battle that I have not seen outside of the pacific. Truely a remarkable battle.

Because Xenu broke our treaty to jointly govern LUE, I was forced to fight for LUE and eject Xenu. There was no way around it.

I must extend my deepest thanks and appreciation to BM and AA for their help.


Now on to the past.

Ron, Please tell me where you get the Idea that I am jelous of Xenu? You dont speak for me.


I guess Ill tell everyone my whole self glorified history since the birth of my nation so we can have the whole story.

In the beginning, I joined LUE from the south pacific. Shortly after that some crazy nation called Xenu arrived. Most of the people there wanted him gone because of his ALL CAPS CLAPPER MONKEY TAKEOVER crap.
I ended up becoming Head General of LUE after the delegate at the time promoted me, and thus began my rise to power. I was able to wage 2 wars against Alcatraz during its infancy and New LUE -- a seperatist state.
During this whole time, LUE was slowly declining and getting smaller. By the time I left, LUE had only 7 nations in it. I was very wary of leaving and never said that I didnt want anything to do with LUE.

I left LUE to join the region of Fire n Ice, a dominion of Alcatraz I believe it was. I joined Fire n Ice after I was invited by the delegate and his friend Shroom Eaters to become the regions Head General. This region also began to dwindle, but one day after a coup I became the new Delegate. Within two weeks I was able to bring the population from 13 nations to 51 before I was replaced by another delegate. During my reign in Fire n Ice, Xenu returned to LUE and self proclaimed himself "The Leader of LUE" I told Xenu that I would not recognize him as the leader of LUE, this angered him and he basically spammed Fire n Ice. When I lost my delegate status in Fire n Ice, I was discouraged and left the region.

A day later in late August 2003 I formed Kramerica.
The region was smalll. One day I got a message from someone in The Roman Empire about a guy named Ron Hubbard. I told him he is the same guy as Xenu, since they were always on at the same times and constantly helping each others plots. I fought to prove in a TRE Trial that Ron was the sameguy as Xenu. I still wonder if Ron is Xenu. Xenu somehow got this TRE guy to contact me, and from what I hear Xenu tried to play me like a pawn in this trial. This angered me, and since that day I have been working on his destruction.
On november 1, Kramerica (population 12) invaded LUE (33) because Xenu was there. A few days later LUE was taken back by the GLA.
After I lead a couple more close but unsuccessful attempts at taking LUE.
During this 1month time, Kramerica grew to 100 nations.

To this day I do not recognize Xenu as the owner of LUE, although I will admit at one point I almost decided he should be.

When Xenu was allied with Imperial Commonwealth (during November). I bacame ICWs enemy as well, also because ICW helped defend LUE. In December, Xenu became enemies with ICW and allies with The Alliance of Imperials. I in turn became allies with ICW against Xenu and AoI.

On one more note, When Xenu was allies with ICW, he had them GRIEF ALL 33 NATIONS FROM LUE UNTIL XENU WAS THE ONLY ONE LEFT. Why would he do this? So that he could become the founder of the region. I told him I would not let that happen to Ancient LUE. Then came our agreement to jointly govern LUE, and now the present where Xenu has betrayed our treaty.


feuuf
bye
SeattleNews
31-12-2003, 02:32
If anyone would like to share the details of this story (Blue Moon and Kramerica especially), please telegram my nation.
Cosmo Kramerica
31-12-2003, 02:35
aw crap Angry Gerbils is one of my secret puppet states that no one is supposed to know about
FDSLFJDSLKFJDSALJFSLKAJF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I meant to post that long message as Cosmo not gerbils
:evil:

ah well it doesnt matter
Qaaolchoura
31-12-2003, 02:39
And the plot thickens. . .

This is definately great.

I wonder if I can get anybody in my region willing to form a ZF contingent. . .
Myrth
31-12-2003, 02:43
aw crap Angry Gerbils is one of my secret puppet states that no one is supposed to know about
FDSLFJDSLKFJDSALJFSLKAJF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I meant to post that long message as Cosmo not gerbils
:evil:

ah well it doesnt matter

pwned.
Spoffin
31-12-2003, 03:18
Hmm. . . rather interesting.

Can you see about getting the password off Spof, TG, Ark, and/or Playa?

I'm sure that Goober and I are not the only ones who are interested in observing this.I don't have it, and Clarkus won't give it to me, Playa or TG (its a tossup on any given day which one of us he hates most)
Spoffin
31-12-2003, 03:19
And the plot thickens. . .

This is definately great.

I wonder if I can get anybody in my region willing to form a ZF contingent. . .ZF contingent?
31-12-2003, 03:37
All this is very convoluted, isn't it? :? I suppose you could consider me directly involved. After all, I'm in Kramerica, and I was one of the people who moved to LUE. However, being a newbie to the game, I was entirely unaware that there was all this... well, POLITICS behind it. All I know is that I got some very polite telegrams requesting that I move to LUE and endorse someone who was also from Kramerica. I had no idea that LUE was ancient - is there any way to tell, if you weren't around when it started? Ah well, if this makes me evil, then so be it. I still rather like it where I am. It's more interesting and less crowded than the Pacific.
Qaaolchoura
31-12-2003, 03:43
ZF contingent?
'K so it would be impossible, as there are eight UN members in my region, and almostall of them barely active.

I really need to begin a regional recruitment campaign.
Spoffin
31-12-2003, 03:48
ZF contingent?
'K so it would be impossible, as there are eight UN members in my region, and almostall of them barely active.

I really need to begin a regional recruitment campaign.
No, I meant what does ZF mean?

Also, before you start recruiting you probably ought to read this. (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2471023)
Qaaolchoura
31-12-2003, 03:49
I don't have it, and Clarkus won't give it to me, Playa or TG (its a tossup on any given day which one of us he hates most)
So you pressuring them=bad idea.

What about Goober, Naleth, and I, famous puppeters so far neutral in interregional affairs pressuring them.

Assuming that I can get Goober and Naleth to do so, do you think that that would work?
Tactical Grace
31-12-2003, 03:51
All this is very convoluted, isn't it? :? However, being a newbie to the game, I was entirely unaware that there was all this... well, POLITICS behind it.
And yet, the Forum RPers sneer at NS World. Indeed you are correct, the politics behind this stuff is intricate indeed, and this is what so many of us find so satisfying.

Tactical Grace
Minister of War / Defence Consultancy, MTNG
Qaaolchoura
31-12-2003, 03:51
No, I meant what does ZF mean?

Also, before you start recruiting you probably ought to read this. (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2471023)
Zhaucauozian Friendship, my region, in existance since 4 July 2003.

Ahh, irony. :lol: Seriously though, I intend to use the forums.
Qaaolchoura
31-12-2003, 03:53
And yet, the Forum RPers sneer at NS World. Indeed you are correct, the politics behind this stuff is intricate indeed, and this is what so many of us find so satisfying.
It can be frusturating but unlike Traditional RP, there is no making up behind-the scenes scheming, there actually is behind the scenes scheming.
Tactical Grace
31-12-2003, 04:11
It can be frusturating but unlike Traditional RP, there is no making up behind-the scenes scheming, there actually is behind the scenes scheming.
Which is why I love it so much. I mean, there is stuff at play here which goes almost all the way back to the Beginning, and yet all this Realpolitik revolves around seemingly trivial technical maneuvres.

Anyway, the combined forces of Kramerica, Blue Moon and MTNG seem to have put a Blue Moon administration into power in LUE. Now this is not your typical invader or liberator coalition. And it appears that unlike in the other regions, no-one within MTNG actually ordered any involvement, so it seems that we may have volunteered some services. My inital instinct last night, on seeing the call to arms, was why would anyone want to invade a dead region? So I ignored it. But now we know. The question is "What next?" Who withdraws, who is left in power?

Oh, and I had better create a semi-IC sig for use in here . . .

Tactical Grace
Minister of War / Defence Consultancy, MTNG
Spoffin
31-12-2003, 04:12
All this is very convoluted, isn't it? :? I suppose you could consider me directly involved. After all, I'm in Kramerica, and I was one of the people who moved to LUE. However, being a newbie to the game, I was entirely unaware that there was all this... well, POLITICS behind it. All I know is that I got some very polite telegrams requesting that I move to LUE and endorse someone who was also from Kramerica. I had no idea that LUE was ancient - is there any way to tell, if you weren't around when it started? Ah well, if this makes me evil, then so be it. I still rather like it where I am. It's more interesting and less crowded than the Pacific.If it has no founder, (not even an ex-nation), then its almost certainly ancient. But theres no real way to tell.
Spoffin
31-12-2003, 04:14
Tactical Grace
Minister of War, MTNGOoh, yeah!

The Silver States Of Spoffin
Minister of Defence, MTNG
New People
31-12-2003, 04:21
The Atlantic Alliance also sent soldiers to the aid of Kramerica. Please don't forget our part in all this.

New People
Field Commander, AA
Spoffin
31-12-2003, 04:23
The Atlantic Alliance also sent soldiers to the aid of Kramerica. Please don't forget our part in all this.

New People
Field Commander, AACan you explain a little about your involvement in this?(how/why etc)
-Chaos
31-12-2003, 04:26
sorry im not involved in all this i as just wondering what ever happened to the ACC and if they are still active which region is there headquarters (i was gone for three months)
Spoffin
31-12-2003, 04:29
sorry im not involved in all this i as just wondering what ever happened to the ACC and if they are still active which region is there headquarters (i was gone for three months)ACC?
Tactical Grace
31-12-2003, 04:29
I settled on this as a player signature for the Gameplay Forum. This essentially says that I primarily sit in the Ministry of War and occasionally act as a Defence Consultant in MTNG.

I suggest that regional officials get into the habit of using something similar (two or three lines of standard text, no images or bright colours) in order to inform other players of their home region(s) and position(s) within their administrative bodies, when posting in such threads. If you do not sit on any committee, just say what region you normally inhabit, if you are a UN nation in a standing army, you are entitled to a Soldier title.

Tactical Grace
Minister of War / Defence Consultancy, MTNG
New People
31-12-2003, 04:33
The Atlantic Alliance also sent soldiers to the aid of Kramerica. Please don't forget our part in all this.

New People
Field Commander, AACan you explain a little about your involvement in this?(how/why etc)

Why certainly. After I had heard of the situation I mobilized what soldiers I could on a five minutes notice. Myself and one or two other soldiers used the password to get inside of Lue and endorsed Cosmo Kramerica, and endorsed the other person whom I will not attempt to try to type their name here. Considering I had given every soldier involved two minutes warning to get into the region I consider that exercise a success in our readiness capabilities.

Our motives were to protect the interests of Alliance members, and two-bit invader forces led by a spammer that would probably have destroyed the region had they succeeded is one of those interests. Some of our soldiers have ties to Blue Moon and I felt it would be nice to assist in the spirit of camaraderie. We also did this because a puppet of mine (whom I've now forgotten) was once somewhat friendly with Cosmo Kramerica and out of friendship with him and respect for the hilarious genius of the Assman I felt obliged to contribute.

New People
Field Commander, AA (To steal a popular signature in this thread)
Spoffin
31-12-2003, 04:36
...endorsed the other person whom I will not attempt to try to type their name here.CnC r0x0rs my s0x0rs?

The Silver States Of Spoffin
Minister of Defence, MTNG
-Chaos
31-12-2003, 04:37
sorry im not involved in all this i as just wondering what ever happened to the ACC and if they are still active which region is there headquarters (i was gone for three months)ACC?

OH COME ON YOU GUYS!!! THE ACC atlantic central command

i wasnt gone for that long was i?
Qaaolchoura
31-12-2003, 04:38
I settled on this as a player signature for the Gameplay Forum. This essentially says that I primarily sit in the Ministry of War and occasionally act as a Defence Consultant in MTNG.

I suggest that regional officials get into the habit of using something similar (two or three lines of standard text, no images or bright colours) in order to inform other players of their home region(s) and position(s) within their administrative bodies, when posting in such threads. If you do not sit on any committee, just say what region you normally inhabit, if you are a UN nation in a standing army, you are entitled to a Soldier title.

Tactical Grace
Minister of War / Defence Consultancy, MTNG
'K

I will attempt to remember.

Qaaolchoura
Founder/Delegate, Zhaucauozian Friendship
Spoffin
31-12-2003, 04:41
I settled on this as a player signature for the Gameplay Forum. This essentially says that I primarily sit in the Ministry of War and occasionally act as a Defence Consultant in MTNG.

I suggest that regional officials get into the habit of using something similar (two or three lines of standard text, no images or bright colours) in order to inform other players of their home region(s) and position(s) within their administrative bodies, when posting in such threads. If you do not sit on any committee, just say what region you normally inhabit, if you are a UN nation in a standing army, you are entitled to a Soldier title.

Tactical Grace
Minister of War / Defence Consultancy, MTNG
'K

I will attempt to remember.

Qaaolchoura
Founder/Delegate, Zhaucauozian FriendshipI'd have gone with
Qaaolchoura
Supreme Puppetmaster

The Silver States Of Spoffin
Minister of Defence, MTNG
Tactical Grace
31-12-2003, 04:44
ACC? I just checked my notes, and I have a solid reference for their existence on 29 July. I never really had much to do with them, I'm afraid.

Wow, so Atlantic Alliance was in this too. Talk about target practice. Four massive regions attacking an inactive one consisting of 4 nations. So who wants to control it in the end? And to what end?

Tactical Grace
Minister of War / Defence Consultancy, MTNG
Qaaolchoura
31-12-2003, 04:44
I'd have gone with
Qaaolchoura
Supreme Puppetmaster

The Silver States Of Spoffin
Minister of Defence, MTNG
I was planning on using something like that for treads on regions controlled by my puppets.

Thanks Spof.

Qaaolchoura
Founder/Delegate, Zhaucauozian Friendship

Qaaolchoura
Supreme Puppetmaster

Qaaolchoura
The Omnipotent, Omnescient, Omnipresent
-Chaos
31-12-2003, 04:45
so where is the ACC's main headquarters now?
(my puppet used to be in it)
and can i get into this whole thing somehow?
Spoffin
31-12-2003, 04:47
ACC? I just checked my notes, and I have a solid reference for their existence on 29 July. I never really had much to do with them, I'm afraid.

Wow, so Atlantic Alliance was in this too. Talk about target practice. Four massive regions attacking an inactive one consisting of 4 nations. So who wants to control it in the end? And to what end?

Tactical Grace
Minister of War / Defence Consultancy, MTNGThis must beat the 3 day invasion of 000UDN for drama and involvement.

The Silver States Of Spoffin
Minister of Defence, MTNG
Qaaolchoura
31-12-2003, 04:48
ACC? I just checked my notes, and I have a solid reference for their existence on 29 July. I never really had much to do with them, I'm afraid.

Wow, so Atlantic Alliance was in this too. Talk about target practice. Four massive regions attacking an inactive one consisting of 4 nations. So who wants to control it in the end? And to what end?

Tactical Grace
Minister of War / Defence Consultancy, MTNG
I think that it is basically one of those battles over something inor, which everybody fights over, simply because it would hurt their proide to let their enemy have it.

My guess is that Xanu, or whatever his name is gets it ultimately, after a couple of months after its major-power conquerer gets bored with it.

Qaaolchoura
Founder/Delegate, Zhaucauozian Friendship
Spoffin
31-12-2003, 04:48
so where is the ACC's main headquarters now?
(my puppet used to be in it)
and can i get into this whole thing somehow?You have any handle/ link to RACAC? If not, it'll be tough to get the password.
Tactical Grace
31-12-2003, 04:52
-Chaos, it sounds like you need a region to serve. There is an extensive Unofficial Region Directory stickied at the top of this forum. If you are stuck for a home, there is plenty to chose from.

As for this war, I think RACAC / M3h changed the password after coming to power in LUE.

Tactical Grace
Minister of War / Defence Consultancy, MTNG
-Chaos
31-12-2003, 04:53
RACAC???? i know of the ACC and the latest alliance ive heard of was THE ALLIANCE but then i had to go for three months but im a pretty good spy/soldier so im sure ill be able to get into the ACC again

whos the RACAC?
Spoffin
31-12-2003, 04:54
Hey, Qaaolchoura, I dunno about getting the password to get you in, but I've got a puppet in LUE (Spoffin The Activist).

I could lend you it for a bit (you'll leave the same password on, we can both access) so you can watch this "up close" so to speak for the next couple of days.

I trust you enough, and I'm sure you've got enough puppets that you don't need to steal this one or anything, and TG is right here, possibly he could verify whats going on for security...?

How does that sound?

The Silver States Of Spoffin
Minister of Defence, MTNG
Spoffin
31-12-2003, 04:55
RACAC???? i know of the ACC and the latest alliance ive heard of was THE ALLIANCE but then i had to go for three months but im a pretty good spy/soldier so im sure ill be able to get into the ACC again

whos the RACAC?Sorry, I was thinking you were talking about the situation in LUE. NM what I said.

The Silver States Of Spoffin
Minister of Defence, MTNG
New People
31-12-2003, 04:55
sorry im not involved in all this i as just wondering what ever happened to the ACC and if they are still active which region is there headquarters (i was gone for three months)

Ah, the Atlantic Central Command. Often people confuse the two to mean one and the same. The short story is the organization I belong to has always been known as the Atlantic Alliance, and that the Atlantic Central Command was the military arm of the Alliance and its website.

However, after Operations Commander Nusseburg and Field Commander Dosopan left there was no clear successor and that is where Louldamin came into power. He became Supreme Commander of Atlantic forces and has the distinction of single-handedly reversing nearly every decision made by Nusseburg and Dosopan. During this time we were known simply as the ACC, the Atlantic Alliance having crumbled when Louldamin was Supreme Commander.

After Nusseburg and Dosopan returned just long enough to remove Louldamin from power -months later I would find out I had something to do with it, but I'll tell you later- we had a new commander named Accelsior. He tried to turn the ACC into the militant wing of ALL -the Allied Liberation League- but after he left us unexpectedly our situation with ALL and the Meritocracy began to become more strained as well. A vote was had to determine the next Supreme Commander and Pilmour won. During this time we were able to severe our ties with ALL and the Meritocracy's colonization of the Atlantic.

It was during this time the Atlantic was relaunched as no longer just the ACC, but the Atlantic Alliance. The first two members of the new Alliance were the region Atlantic and Byzantium. This was in August. August 15, I believe. The Atlantic re-affirmed its committment to a multi-region Alliance with a civilian side, though the military has always looked after the interests of its civilian counterpart, as I often say.

But Pilmour's regime did not go as well as everyone had hoped. Certain members of the organization were uncooperative with Pilmour and that led to the departure of Captain LadyRebels (delegate of the South Pacific) and Military Affairs Minister of B4kst4br (who now has a career in the Meritocracy's standing army, and is its former Lictor), an incident that is seldom talked about except in the Mess Hall when followed by a "let's not bring this out of the mud again, and LadyRebels quit she was kicked out".

In the Alliance's committment to Democracy, Pilmour was ousted by the Security Council (forum for the soldiers) and nearly put on trial. Although I stayed neutral in what was going on, I agreed to defend him when put on trial. A few weeks had passed and amends were generally made all around and the trial forgotten.

MrNonchalant became Supreme Commander of the Atlantic (his first time after Louldamin and before Accelsior). He created the website that now goes with our forum at http://www.chriszs.f2o.org/atlantic and was Supreme Commander until December 12.

At that date he resigned from Supreme Commander to become Operations Commander and offered me the rank of Field Commander. I gladly accepted and the following week I led Atlantic soldiers on a half dozen missions assignments. Including a Christmas raid on Alliance of Soviet Democracies, a USSR held region ;)

I myself started out as a soldier back in April, then under Accelior's time I became part of the Ministry of Intelligence, a career that has served me well to this very day. I was promoted twice to Director (second in command of MoI) and then when MrNonchalant became Supreme Commander I became Minister of Intelligence.

The Atlantic Alliance is still headquarted in Atlantic, about as much as the Sardauker Confederacy Defense Trust is headquarted in the region Sardauker Confederacy. It still directly controls the region Marsburg, the very first region to join the Atlantic Alliance, as a "fortress".

Current member regions include Atlantic, Poland, Liechtenstein, Italy, and Covenant.

In Marsburg you can find myself and MrNonchalant, wearing the civilian flags of the Atlantic Alliance.

So to answer your question, -Chaos, that's a short history of what the Atlantic has been up to ever since Nusseburg and Dosopan left. The history of the Atlantic is actually much more detailed and interesting than this, which we are leaving for the "Brief History of Everything" thread and our anthology.

-Field Commander New People
Atlantic Alliance
Tactical Grace
31-12-2003, 04:56
Yes, the three day battle for control of 0000 United Democratic Nations. I have fond memories of that. I could not take part myself, being a Delegate at the time, so as was so often the case, I was limited to sending a small army to fight alongside the defenders. You guys did well in that.

Tactical Grace
Minister of War / Defence Consultancy, MTNG
New People
31-12-2003, 04:56
...endorsed the other person whom I will not attempt to try to type their name here.CnC r0x0rs my s0x0rs?

The Silver States Of Spoffin
Minister of Defence, MTNG

Yes. No way I'm going to try to say that unless I have it c&ped already.

-Field Commander New People
Atlantic Alliance
New People
31-12-2003, 04:58
sorry im not involved in all this i as just wondering what ever happened to the ACC and if they are still active which region is there headquarters (i was gone for three months)ACC?

OH COME ON YOU GUYS!!! THE ACC atlantic central command

i wasnt gone for that long was i?

Would you like to come back? We have shiny website and forum. Much more professional than the ADN's....

::attempts to lure::
Spoffin
31-12-2003, 04:58
...endorsed the other person whom I will not attempt to try to type their name here.CnC r0x0rs my s0x0rs?

The Silver States Of Spoffin
Minister of Defence, MTNG

Yes. No way I'm going to try to say that unless I have it c&ped already.

-Field Commander New People
Atlantic AllianceStops people from following his movements to easily...
New People
31-12-2003, 05:03
ACC? I just checked my notes, and I have a solid reference for their existence on 29 July. I never really had much to do with them, I'm afraid.

Wow, so Atlantic Alliance was in this too. Talk about target practice. Four massive regions attacking an inactive one consisting of 4 nations. So who wants to control it in the end? And to what end?

Tactical Grace
Minister of War / Defence Consultancy, MTNG

Tactical Grace, the way you're posting in this thread you should write for SeattleNews (http://seattlenews.proboards20.com/index.cgi). They have several posts going on this story so far and they're trying to hard to be like you here without just copying you verbatim. :wink:

Oh? What happened on the 29th of July? Do tell. Or will I have to look it up myself? That must have been in the Pilmourian Era, I reckon.

-Politely Promoted Field Commander New People
Atlantic Alliance
Spoffin
31-12-2003, 05:14
ACC? I just checked my notes, and I have a solid reference for their existence on 29 July. I never really had much to do with them, I'm afraid.

Wow, so Atlantic Alliance was in this too. Talk about target practice. Four massive regions attacking an inactive one consisting of 4 nations. So who wants to control it in the end? And to what end?

Tactical Grace
Minister of War / Defence Consultancy, MTNG

Tactical Grace, the way you're posting in this thread you should write for SeattleNews (http://seattlenews.proboards20.com/index.cgi). They have several posts going on this story so far and they're trying to hard to be like you here without just copying you verbatim. :wink:

Oh? What happened on the 29th of July? Do tell. Or will I have to look it up myself? That must have been in the Pilmourian Era, I reckon.

-Politely Promoted Field Commander New People
Atlantic AllianceI checked out their story, but noted a factual error. Clarkus= CnC, not Xenu as they wrote.

How do we talk to them about that?
Qaaolchoura
31-12-2003, 05:16
Hey, Qaaolchoura, I dunno about getting the password to get you in, but I've got a puppet in LUE (Spoffin The Activist).

I could lend you it for a bit (you'll leave the same password on, we can both access) so you can watch this "up close" so to speak for the next couple of days.

I trust you enough, and I'm sure you've got enough puppets that you don't need to steal this one or anything, and TG is right here, possibly he could verify whats going on for security...?

How does that sound?

The Silver States Of Spoffin
Minister of Defence, MTNG
'K, thanks Spof.

If you ever need to use one of my puppets in a passworded region, where there is activity going on (I don't have many puppets in regions where that might happen yet, but I'm working on it), I'll return the favor in kind.

Qaaolchoura
The Omnipotent, Omnescient, not quite Omnipresent enough
Spoffin
31-12-2003, 05:19
Hey, Qaaolchoura, I dunno about getting the password to get you in, but I've got a puppet in LUE (Spoffin The Activist).

I could lend you it for a bit (you'll leave the same password on, we can both access) so you can watch this "up close" so to speak for the next couple of days.

I trust you enough, and I'm sure you've got enough puppets that you don't need to steal this one or anything, and TG is right here, possibly he could verify whats going on for security...?

How does that sound?

The Silver States Of Spoffin
Minister of Defence, MTNG
'K, thanks Spof.

If you ever need to use one of my puppets in a passworded region, where there is activity going on (I don't have many puppets in regions where that might happen yet, but I'm working on it), I'll return the favor in kind.

Qaaolchoura
The Omnipotent, Omnescient, not quite Omnipresent enoughIn your TM box.
New People
31-12-2003, 05:28
I trust when the region was repassworded it was sent out to all the natives.

-New People, the politely-promoted Field Commander of the Atlantic Alliance (inside joke from my home region)
Tactical Grace
31-12-2003, 05:30
Tactical Grace, the way you're posting in this thread you should write for SeattleNews (http://seattlenews.proboards20.com/index.cgi). They have several posts going on this story so far and they're trying to hard to be like you here without just copying you verbatim. :wink:

Oh? What happened on the 29th of July? Do tell. Or will I have to look it up myself? That must have been in the Pilmourian Era, I reckon.

-Politely Promoted Field Commander New People
Atlantic Alliance
Hehe, I have actually had some reporting experience in NS already, on the NetworkRadio Forums, unfortunately I will be not be on much through all of January because of exams. :cry:

On the 29th of July, not much happened, I just have some vague notes about the ACC acting as a war fighting outfit for the Atlantic. No idea who they were fighting at the time.

Oh, and guys, since we are quoting each others' posts all the time, I realise that bold signatures are a bad idea.

Tactical Grace
Minister of War / Defence Consultancy, MTNG
-Chaos
31-12-2003, 05:32
hey new people how do i get in? is it okay if i use a puppet?
Tactical Grace
31-12-2003, 05:32
I trust when the region was repassworded it was sent out to all the natives.

-New People, the politely-promoted Field Commander of the Atlantic Alliance (inside joke from my home region)
Perhaps so. All four of them, hehe. They might have been inactive anyway, I never thought to check. And what's the inside joke? Was there a coup? :wink:

Tactical Grace
Minister of War / Defence Consultancy, MTNG
Spoffin
31-12-2003, 05:32
I trust when the region was repassworded it was sent out to all the natives.

-New People, the politely-promoted Field Commander of the Atlantic Alliance (inside joke from my home region)
I dunno, but even if they were, I don't think thats going to be a good avenue for getting the password. There were only 4 natives, I don't know who they are, half of them were probably inactive and the others wouldn't have had a clue who to trust, and frankly I don't blame them
Qaaolchoura
31-12-2003, 05:37
In your TM box.
Thank you Spof, noted, I'm content to watch afar for tonight but tommorow, I'll be paying much closer attention to the situation.

OOC: I'm beggining to wrap up for the night, I'll probably be off within an hour or so.

Qaaolchoura
Founder/Delegate, Zhaucauozian Friendship
New People
31-12-2003, 05:40
hey new people how do i get in? is it okay if i use a puppet?

To join just post here (http://chriszs.f2o.org/atlantic/forum/viewforum.php?f=5) with your nation name, you'll be contacted with further instructions.

You were in the Atlantic before once, correct? If so, include who you were then and you'll be given a little more favorable treatment. We love to hear from old members deciding to come back.

-Field Commander New People
Atlantic Alliance
New People
31-12-2003, 05:48
I trust when the region was repassworded it was sent out to all the natives.

-New People, the politely-promoted Field Commander of the Atlantic Alliance (inside joke from my home region)
Perhaps so. All four of them, hehe. They might have been inactive anyway, I never thought to check.

But it's part of the rules! :o

And what's the inside joke? Was there a coup? :wink:


It's someone I used to post as more often but my gig here seriously eats up on my time at that. If they ever check the gameplay forum they'll get it (they probably won't because I come from an RP region).

-Field Commander New People
Atlantic Alliance
Qaaolchoura
31-12-2003, 05:52
hey new people how do i get in? is it okay if i use a puppet?

To join just post here (http://chriszs.f2o.org/atlantic/forum/viewforum.php?f=5) with your nation name, you'll be contacted with further instructions.

You were in the Atlantic before once, correct? If so, include who you were then and you'll be given a little more favorable treatment. We love to hear from old members deciding to come back.

-Field Commander New People
Atlantic Alliance
HeHeh. I have a puppet in both of the New Atlantic Alliance offshouts, and soon I've put on in the ACC too. No application to simply sit in the region right.

Qaaolchoura
Supreme Puppetmaster
Spoffin
31-12-2003, 05:57
Getting back to LUE, whos side vaguely are we all falling on at the moment, Xenu or Kramecia?

The Silver States Of Spoffin
Minister of Defence, MTNG
New People
31-12-2003, 06:02
hey new people how do i get in? is it okay if i use a puppet?

To join just post here (http://chriszs.f2o.org/atlantic/forum/viewforum.php?f=5) with your nation name, you'll be contacted with further instructions.

You were in the Atlantic before once, correct? If so, include who you were then and you'll be given a little more favorable treatment. We love to hear from old members deciding to come back.

-Field Commander New People
Atlantic Alliance
HeHeh. I have a puppet in both of the New Atlantic Alliance offshouts, and soon I've put on in the ACC too. No application to simply sit in the region right.

Qaaolchoura
Supreme Puppetmaster

The regions Atlantic Alliance and The Atlantic Alliance are not owned or operated by the AA. They're mock regions created by some people who wish to annoy us.

In fact, Atlantic Alliance was created by a member of Fortress Harkinnen. That region was destroyed by Pepito Mvssolini, a parody nation of one one of our soldiers used and we believe has links to Corinthe, and it was refounded by a puppet of Crazy girl. Cogititation destroyed Pepito and made Poofity Land the founder again.

The same thing for The Atlantic Alliance.

When I was Intelligence Minister I made a statement about "Atlantic Alliance" when only that region was around, which you can read here (http://chriszs.f2o.org/atlantic/forum/viewtopic.php?t=767). If any Fortress Harkinnen people are reading this, we retaliated by destroying six of their multies.

-Field Commander New People
Atlantic Alliance
(I have a coat-of-arms I use on the forum but in its place I'll leave my organization name)
Tactical Grace
31-12-2003, 06:07
Um, best leave bold out of sigs, guys. I have realised it doesn't quote too well.

Basically, this is not the first time that Kramerica, Blue Moon, the AA and MTNG have invaded stuff, is it? Only different thing is, we are on the same side in the same war. So we might as well stick to that. Whoever fought back in LUE was not native, that's for sure, and it sounds like they were only doing it to pursue an ancient anti-Kramerica agenda. So while a closing of ranks may not be necessary, we could simply let the situation tick over for the time being. Wait and see which of the victors claims lasting ownership.

Tactical Grace
Minister of War / Defence Consultancy, MTNG
New People
31-12-2003, 06:08
Getting back to LUE, whos side vaguely are we all falling on at the moment, Xenu or Kramecia?

The Silver States Of Spoffin
Minister of Defence, MTNG

The Atlantic Alliance sides with our new friends (this thread has been quite enjoyable) from Kramerica, Blue Moon, and Mercia the Next Generation.

But you were asking about MTNG.

I think the side to support is Kramerica, because even the GLA would not help Xenu.


-Field Commander New People
Atlantic Alliance
Barbarosea
31-12-2003, 06:39
I haven't read everything, but here's what I got:

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaay back when the GDODAD was in it's first age, and thriving, LUE had about 13 nations, including Xenu which liked to spam us and the Coalition of Evil. They would move in, Spam it up, and leave, and so there was fueds all over.

Now, jump to like 2 months ago, LUE still had about 13 nations, and Xenu was still spamming us to no end.

There was some things happeinig that I counldn't really reflect on, as I wasn't too involved, but somehow, us and Xenu ended up on the same side against KGB Informant and this other guy.

That's what has led up to this.

<-----Is amased that is propaganda posted in LUE wasn't quoted.
Spoffin
31-12-2003, 08:22
Barbarossa, where do you stand on this?

Also, who were the residents od LUE before the invasion?
Spoffin
31-12-2003, 16:05
bump
31-12-2003, 17:37
Angry Gerbils or Cosmo Kramerica's little history was sweet and all but it is very one sided with the intention making him look right.
If you want to know about Lue, I can tell you. I've been there for a very long time.
I also have no hidden agenda because I could care less. I assure you no matter who rules Lue it will always be ruled by a psychopathic dictator. It has always been that way. Lue has been the most war torn region in all of nationstates.
I call it the Lue curse and in time the Blue Moon guy with the long name ruling now will become a psychopath. It has happened to everyone there.

Now, lets clarify some things about my region.
First off, accusations against the great and flamboyant Xenu have no evidence. I keep on hearing how Xenu planned this and not to defend him but there has yet to be any proof of Xenu ordering The Alliance Of Imperials to invade. Now, from what I have observed of Morvran-the leader of AOI is not the type to take orders from Xenu.
So Xenu plotting this whole thing doesn't sound right and it sounds like someone througout all this screwed up and they screwed up from all sides and everyone is trying to cover themselves in one way or another. And there is a lot of exagerations going on that are being considered proof.
Its the curse of Lue.

Now I was around in the old days and Xenu didn't just pop out of nowhere.
I remember.....
And this didn't just start in October. Lue has been at war since its conception.
Lue was a luscious and vibrant region at one time filled with all sorts of nations. There became a political turmoil and the nations of Lue were split into two factions. One stayed in Lue and the other group formed there own region called New Lue.
I was with the faction that was part of New Lue. New Lue and Lue were contantly bickering at each other. At one point Lue was going to invade New Lue and take ownership of it. New Lue had gained the protection of Alcatraz and Heaven. Lue continued to speak of war with all three of us and with out a doubt was going to invade New Lue.
Now.. what I just wrote is very important, because this is what this all stems from.
Xenu was part of New Lue, he began his pshycopathic carreer in New Lue and I can say he wasn't part of the original rebels of the old Lue. But was an accepted member. He was fairly liked for a time, I do know his association with a nation called spaminator had gained a few groans but other then that he was fairly liked.
So he didn't just come out of nowhere.
Now the diplomats of New Lue and Lue had worked out a peaceful arrangement and a treaty ensued.
You see the leaders of Lue had come to there senses and knew there was no way they were going to survive a war with New Lue/Alcatraz/ and Heaven.
New Lue had felt they had won, a victory for us!!
This was when trouble started. The madness of Xenu had begun here.
Xenu did not like the idea that we were now at peace and Xenu wanted war.
From what I remember he never liked the idea that The New Lueians left Lue and should take Lue and force there own government there. This idea was very unpopular and Xenu was ordered no war.
Well, he did it anyway he started war with Lue whether we in New Lue liked it or not.
This escalated into many forms and is pretty much the beginning of Xenu's career at conquering. I doubt most of you were around then. But I was. I remember the madness. Anybody who was anybody was involved in this part of the world.'
I believe even Xenu attempted to get the old GDODAD involved in this which failed. Which is where that conflict started from.
Anyway Xenu had begun to plague Lue. Complete Chaos was erupted then. All sorts of characters got involved then.
Xenu's group had grown to several nations as well as every war lord and power hungry tyrant on the game came to Lue to pick at it as well. It became a mess.
Cosmo Kramerica was an official in charge of Lue and fought him constantly. It was quite a battle to watch, RP/UN status, you name it. Oh and yes we can't forget the creative spamming. But you could do that back then.
But let us be truthful...
in the end Xenu made peace with Lue and even helped them fight Alcatraz and New Lue of course. That was when I returned to the original Lue. Even though Xenu was crazy he did make peace with Lue and did help them.
After that Xenu and his group left... I had heard that they were terrorizing some other corner of NS. And you didn't hear from him.
New Lue eventually died from inactivivity.
Lue was on the verge of dying as well. Now, at that time Cosmo who was the major player in guarding Lue and keeping it alive did say he wanted to leave and form his own region and he did say he wanted nothing to do with Lue. But he didn't say that out of anger I think he was just greatfully bored.
I had even thought Lue was going to die myself. There wasn't much life to it and I was about to head out and go to the pacific or some such place.
That is of course when Xenu had returned saw it empty and took it over and made it the nuttiest place I have ever been.
And that is how this truly began.

Moldaria
Citizen of Lue
Cosmo Kramerica
31-12-2003, 17:56
That is a very accurate accounting of what happened way back then. He speaks the truth.
Qaaolchoura
31-12-2003, 17:59
The XML Regional Datafeed (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/regiondata.cgi/) Lists nations in the order of seniority.

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<REGIONINFO>
<NAME>LUE</NAME>
-
<FACTBOOK>
Welcome to the region of LUE. This region will remain a protectorate of Kramerica until it has stabilized. All Hail the Goddess Ixtli! Celebrate with Beer or Blood! The invaders have been expelled. LUE is safe once again!
</FACTBOOK>
<NUMNATIONS>20</NUMNATIONS>
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<NATIONS>
moldaria:son_of_attila_the_hun:lue_i:
andmerica:flamingoland_2:hydor:ecclier:sophron:havanegaleh:spoffin_the_activist:
nefarian:eisley:barbarosea:marauding_horde:totally_awesome_land:ex-texans:
doyle_quarunson:absolete:cnc_r0x0rs_my_s0x0rs:kramerica_embassy
</NATIONS>
<DELEGATE>cnc_r0x0rs_my_s0x0rs</DELEGATE>
<DELEGATEVOTES>6</DELEGATEVOTES>
<FOUNDER>0</FOUNDER>
</REGIONINFO>
Emphasis Mine

Spotlight on:
The Republic of LUE I

"Long live lue"
UN Category: Inoffensive Centrist Democracy
Civil Rights: Good Economy: Strong Political Freedoms: Excellent
Location: LUE

The Republic of LUE I is a small, pleasant nation, notable for its barren, inhospitable landscape. Its hard-nosed, hard-working, intelligent population of 18 million have some civil rights, but not too many, enjoy the freedom to spend their money however they like, to a point, and take part in free and open elections, although not too often.

The medium-sized government juggles the competing demands of Healthcare, Social Welfare, and Law & Order. The average income tax rate is 18%. A small private sector is dominated by the Woodchip Exports industry.

Crime is moderate. LUE I's national animal is the cat and its currency is the dollar.

LUE I is ranked 8th in the region and 41,065th in the world for Most Pro-Market Nations.

Most Recent Government Activity: 4 days ago

Again, emphasis mine

Since the invasion was two days ago, if there were really four pre-invasion nations, three of them have to Moldaria, Son of attila the hun, Lue I. Andmerica, the next nation, appears to be an invader. At any rate these undeniably are natives, who according to Cosmo Kramerica were not given the password. At any rate, now back to the question as to whether Xenu is a native.


If we are to believe the acount of Grand Moff Tarkin, while assuming tht there were 4 nations in LUE, then, Xenu was the fourth native of LUE.

Cosmo Kramerica seems to claim, if I read his post correctly that Xenu was in the region along with several other UN members, who then invaded Fire n Ice, then returned to LUE. If this is true, then it implies that their were more than 4 natives of LUE (recall that pre-invasion nations are natives in user regions), which backs the roughly 13 native assertation of Barabosea, and neither validates, nor contradicts GMT's claims.

If we are to believe Kramerica, then he evicted multiple(barely) natives, only one of which had the password.


Ban List

Creplaboy
Holy Molee
JediMaster
Movran Mab Tegid
Speed Limit
The Real Xenu

So far we have heard accounts that Xenu was a spammer. If we are to believe either the account of GMT or CK, then he was either a native, or barely a native but still a native. Even so, it is legal to keep him booted for two or three days if he was spamming the board, but we have no proof of that.

I will cut this off here, as both halves will be quite long.

Edit: forum-distorting XML line broken into four smaller pieces.
Cosmo Kramerica
31-12-2003, 18:08
All those who were banned are outside invaders. Of those ejected, Xenu was the only one in LUE before the war started.
Qaaolchoura
31-12-2003, 18:12
Ahh, now for part 2.


Creplaboy is an 18 million UN member I infer either a member of the contingent form LUE, or a counter invader that Cosmo was refering to. Which I do not know. He is in the Crashing Region Hell Spawn, but I can only find him arriving in the happenings, not leaving
* 107 minutes ago: The People's Republic of LIBERTY HILL arrived from 000000000.
* 12 hours ago: The Soviet Union of Febuarius ceased to exist.
* 19 hours ago: The Republic of Creplaboy arrived from The Rejected Realms.
* 21 hours ago: The Secret Society of Nautonnier2 departed this region for The West Pacific
* 1 day ago: The Republic of Zontral ceased to exist.
* 1 day ago: The Holy Republic of The tear city arrived from The West Pacific.
* 1 day ago: The Secret Society of Nautonnier2 arrived from The Alliance of Imperials.
* 1 day ago: The Confederacy of Demeteropolis arrived from The Elite Nations.
* 2 days ago: The Most Miss-Understood Malady of Miss updated the World Factbook entry.
* 2 days ago: The Most Miss-Understood Malady of Miss removed regional password protection.

The Alliance of Imperials

World Factbook Entry: This is the new region for those who keep the spirit of imperialism alive and can't have that hunger sated in regions such as Imperial Commonwealth under its present leadership. Within its boundaries are the hard-core element of what used to be Imperial Commonwealth and LUE.

UN Delegate: None.

Founder: The Republic of Revolting Armies

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2. The Armed Republic of Boonville Anarchy "We're on the way to the lost coast . . ."
3. The Impatient Dictatorship of Viscer Capitalist Paradise "I'm up for a good region crashing. Telegram me......"
4. The World Empire of Out World Compulsory Consumerist State "THE GLA SUCKS!"
5. The Liberal Hating Utopia of Military Strength Right-wing Utopia "We're a Utopia, so ha!"
6. The Hubristic Heavenly Hordes of Magical Mountain Dew Capitalist Paradise "I can levitate birds. Nobody cares."
7. The Confused Hordes of Arga Iron Fist Consumerists "In Dog We Lust"
8. The Republic of Revolting Armies Inoffensive Centrist Democracy "ICW NO MORE!!!"
9. The Lonesome Island of Lodestonia Father Knows Best State "Due North, Folks."
10. The Secret Society of Nautonnier2 Inoffensive Centrist Democracy "Payback's a bitch"
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11. The Dictatorship of Morvran Mab Tegid Corrupt Dictatorship "I think you might have me confused with somebody else"
12. The Holy Republic of Holy Molee Authoritarian Democracy "First we kill you, then we eat you"

Regional Happenings

* 21 hours ago: The Holy Republic of Holy Molee arrived from The Rejected Realms.
* 21 hours ago: The World Empire of Out World arrived from Holy_empire_of_god.
* 21 hours ago: The Secret Society of Nautonnier2 arrived from The West Pacific.
* 1 day ago: The Rebel Alliance of JediMaster arrived from The Rejected Realms.
* 1 day ago: The Dictatorship of Morvran Mab Tegid arrived from The Rejected Realms.
* 1 day ago: The Dictatorship of Morvran Mab Tegid lost UN Delegate status.
* 1 day ago: The Secret Society of Nautonnier2 departed this region for Hell Spawn
* 1 day ago: The Dictatorship of Morvran Mab Tegid departed this region for LUE
* 1 day ago: The Protectorate of Xenu Patrol departed this region for The Pacific
* 1 day ago: The Secret Society of Nautonnier2 arrived from Kramerica.

The Alliance of Imperials Civil Headquarters

Messages from regional members are co-ordinated here.
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21 hours ago The World Empire of Out World I appoligise for Fortressess inacticity during the last invsaion. I have no clue what they are doing but it appears to me that the people of the region dont even know there is an alliance. I belive that MMT should have a talk with hannarkin himself to make sure the region is sill in on the alliance.
19 hours ago The Rebel Alliance of JediMaster Is'nt it listed that we are allied with Fortress in their world book?
18 hours ago The Dictatorship of Morvran Mab Tegid This was a complete disaster. Now our allies are saying that there isn't an alliance.
We've helped them in invasions before.
I'll talk to Hannarkin but I don't like where this is going.
I mean, true this was just Lue and Lue is pretty much small time but what if this was a major target.
I can't depend on nations that are going to leave me hanging there.
They know who we are over there so don't act like they don't Out World.
I'll telegram Hannarkin.

Were basically going to have some major changes here.
What I have seen out of this Lue thing is a lot of backstabbs on every corner.
Almost identical to the ICW. The funny thing was everyone out of AOI that were there were together in one unit.
That I am proud of.
17 hours ago The Confused Hordes of Arga Sorry, I was sleeping and lost the boat on that one. What happened, anyway? Got our signals crossed with Harkinnen? We really have to figure out a way to facilitate communication with our allies.
17 hours ago The Dictatorship of Morvran Mab Tegid Ok, were on the NS forum. Under games I think. This has become an internation incident and were in the middle of it.
17 hours ago The Secret Society of Nautonnier2 I read it. Holy Molee and JediMaster are famous now! Great job guys!
16 hours ago The Dictatorship of Morvran Mab Tegid This Lue thing, has escalated. So far Mercians, Blue Moon, Kramerica, citizens of Lue, Xenu's people, The Roman empire is playing something in this as well as Grand Moff Tarkin of all people.
And yes we are now famous. The only problem is were famous as Xenu's cohorts, which I don't think is his doing.
But any press is better then no press.
14 hours ago The Hubristic Heavenly Hordes of Magical Mountain Dew somebody post a link to the thread on the forum so i dont have to go searching for it
13 hours ago The Liberal Hating Utopia of Military Strength Well, bad press is never good in my opinion. If it will do anything, it will make the antis and even the mods focus harder on us.
13 hours ago The Hubristic Heavenly Hordes of Magical Mountain Dew heres the link for anyone that wants to read it

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=109738&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Holy Molee is a non-UN member located in TAOI.
JediMaster is a UN Member located in TAOI
Movran Mab Tegid is a UN Member located in TAOI
Speed Limit is a small, non-UN Member located in a rather bizarre, anti- Semetic region

The Idiosincratic Syntax

World Factbook Entry: Why don't Jews make cars? Because every time they would pass a Volkswagon, they would light on fire!!! HAHAHAHAHA.

UN Delegate: None.

Founder: The Anti-semetic people of White Whippers

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2. The Republic of Spanish Mommies Inoffensive Centrist Democracy "What are you, some kind of flapjack?"
3. The Republic of Speed Limit Inoffensive Centrist Democracy "General douchebaggery abounds"
4. The Rogue Nation of Super Flapjacks Civil Rights Lovefest "Friends are just enemies in reverse"
5. The Republic of Sporklovers New York Times Democracy "Because spork sounds better than foon"
6. The Republic of Doyle brunson Inoffensive Centrist Democracy "Asdfasdfasdfasdfasdf"
7. The Republic of Spelunking Monkeys New York Times Democracy "Wait for it......wait for it......GO"
8. The Kingdom of Tokyo Fun Inoffensive Centrist Democracy "Fun is me"
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Regional Happenings

* 23 hours ago: The Republic of Speed Limit arrived from The Rejected Realms.
* 1 day ago: The Republic of Doyle Quarunson departed this region for LUE
* 1 day ago: The Republic of Speed Limit departed this region for FIRE N ICE
* 13 days ago: The Republic of Sammy Farha arrived from The Pacific.
* 13 days ago: The Republic of Doyle Quarunson arrived from The Pacific.
* 13 days ago: The Republic of Speed Limit arrived from The West Pacific.
* 14 days ago: The Republic of Pocket rocket arrived from The Rejected Realms.
* 23 days ago: The Republic of Crunknigga ceased to exist.
* 24 days ago: The Anti-semetic people of White Whippers departed this region for The Imperial Despot Empire
* 27 days ago: The UnSTOPable Nation of The NationStates Bunny departed this region for The Imperial Army of ExRejects

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32 days ago The Republic of WUF Recruiter Tired of life in NS, minding your own buisiness and keeping your head down?
Been stepped on by ruthless tyrants?
Want to help forge the greatest empire in NationStates History?
Or just looking for a little fun, fame, and adventure?

If any of these are you, join the World Unification Front today! We are based in "Fortress Harkinnen" with a few nations. We intend to carve out an empire spanning 100 regions and 5000 nations. With your help, it can happen. We have the drive and dedication to do it, all we need is the manpower. UN and non-UN nations are all welcome, just move to Fortress Harkinnen and post on our civil HQ.

WUF Recruiting Agency

And I see that we now have a native's account, which I must now analyse.
Cosmo Kramerica
31-12-2003, 18:12
Cosmo Kramerica seems to claim, if I read his post correctly that Xenu was in the region along with several other UN members, who then invaded Fire n Ice, then returned to LUE.

Wrong. LUE had 0 UN nations. The UN nations Xenu used to take Fire N Ice worked for the region of The Alliance of Imperials. They are commanded by Nautonnier2. They gave Fire n Ice to Xenu as a gift because of their alliance.

There were 4 nations.
Moldaria
LUE I (my puppet)
Xenu (gone for breaking the treaty)
And some other guy I cant remember


Moldaria probably knows who the last guy was
Qaaolchoura
31-12-2003, 18:14
All those who were banned are outside invaders. Of those ejected, Xenu was the only one in LUE before the war started.
Thank you.

I do not know the validity of that statement, but every cliam elpsin my attempt to piece this puzzle together.

Qaaolchoura
The Omnipotent, Omnescient, Omnipresent
Qaaolchoura
31-12-2003, 18:17
Cosmo Kramerica seems to claim, if I read his post correctly that Xenu was in the region along with several other UN members, who then invaded Fire n Ice, then returned to LUE.

Wrong. LUE had 0 UN nations. The UN nations Xenu used to take Fire N Ice worked for the region of The Alliance of Imperials. They are commanded by Nautonnier2. They gave Fire n Ice to Xenu as a gift because of their alliance.

There were 4 nations.
Moldaria
LUE I (my puppet)
Xenu (gone for breaking the treaty)
And some other guy I cant remember
OK, so I think I get what you are saying now.

And I can prove, for as long as you do not log into LUE I until a mod verifies my claim that Moldaria, Son of attila the hun, and LUE I, are three of LUE's natives.
Cosmo Kramerica
31-12-2003, 18:23
Ok but If I logged in earlier today will that screw it up?
Qaaolchoura
31-12-2003, 18:30
This account gives us some new information, but nothing that I can use as of yet, except to say that it backs GMT's assertation, and all of Cosmo Kramerica's recent claims, and most of his earlier ones.
It therefore implies and/or verifies some things, and I can infer the following:

Cosmo Kramerica gave the password to only one of the natives
Cosmo Kramerica evicted one of the natives with no existing evidence of wrongdoing
Xenu, is a tad wacko, but harmless
Both Cosmo Kramerica, and Xenu were taken advantage of in a power struggle, the former as a pawn, the latter as a scapegoat

Qaaolchoura
The Omnipotent, Omnescient, Omnipresent

Edit: snippet removed.
Qaaolchoura
31-12-2003, 18:33
Ok but If I logged in earlier today will that screw it up?
D--n! :evil:

Oh, well, now you have one more account to take on faith: My claim that LUE I had been inactive for over 4 days, up until an hour ago.
Pope Hope
31-12-2003, 18:40
The ADN has watched this situation unfold from the beginning with some interest.

From what I have dug up--whether or not Cosmo or Xenu is the true protector of LUE here--the invader groups involved seem to have moved there at least believing that they were defending a just cause (which is interesting enough in the first place), and not taking over the region.

Unless I'm wrong--LUE and Blue Moon are allied through the Council of the Aggressive, correct? BM seems to have heard that LUE was under attack and rushed to their aid under the terms of their alliance with the region.

As for the AA, I believe they are trying to polish their tarnished reputation a bit by establishing better relations with other groups. I think they truly believed they were assisting in a defense as well.

Just my two cents...funny since as a member of the ADN, I am automatically an enemy of the AA...correct, New People? :wink: At least, they have left me some funny messages...

I'll be interested to see what the rest of you dig up. The last three days have been engaging because of all of the activity in LUE. I agree that it's historical, and TG is correct--there's much fun and politicking to be done without RPing. This thread is great proof of this little-known fact (and fun). Everyone involved here is well-invested in this situation, and has spent time and energy to get to the truth. You all have my respect, adversary or no. 8)

High Queen Pope Hope IV
ADN Director of Intelligence
Regional Delegate/Founder of Nasicournia
Barbarosea
31-12-2003, 20:42
To back other claims:

the 4 natives were Xenu, Moldaria, LUE I, and the son of the attlia guy.
Spoffin
31-12-2003, 20:50
To back other claims:

the 4 natives were Xenu, Moldaria, LUE I, and the son of the attlia guy.Barbarosea, check TMs
Barbarosea
31-12-2003, 20:55
replied
31-12-2003, 20:57
Xenu may have been a native THEN, but he also gathered up a force to wrest control of LUE away from COsmo, who posted the factbook entry stating that the region was a protecterate of Kramerica until it was stabilized. that signaled ownership of LUE to technically belong to Cosmo, but since there was no delegate, no one really owned it. so, Xenu gathered up a force of nations to retake the region, aka an invasion and Cosmo gathered up a force of nations, myself included, to defend the region from Xenu taking it over. therefore Kramerica, and all other participating regions fighting under the side of Kramerica, were defenders, and Xenu's forces, endorsing Creplaboy, were the invaders so, for once, Blue Moon were on the side of the defenders. even though i originally had not meant for any blue moon nations to help, i eventually decided to enlist their assistance. so, to close out this post, i leave you with a modfied seinfeld quote to every nation and region backing Xenu, for the moment, there will be "NO LUE FOR YOU!" :wink:

note that i did not read the whole thread, so if this is repeated several times, then srry.

EDIT: and all natives have the password, barring Xenu, since he was an invader.
New People
31-12-2003, 21:15
Just my two cents...funny since as a member of the ADN, I am automatically an enemy of the AA...correct, New People? :wink: At least, they have left me some funny messages...

High Queen Pope Hope IV
ADN Director of Intelligence
Regional Delegate/Founder of Nasicournia

You said the ADN wasn't going to deal with us. :wink:

At least, they have left me some funny messages...

Ah, Alliance of Soviet Democracies! It's still there you know.

-Field Commander New People
Atlantic Alliance
Former Intelligence Minister of the AA, which makes us colleagues
Qaaolchoura
31-12-2003, 21:34
Xenu may have been a native THEN, but he also gathered up a force to wrest control of LUE away from COsmo, who posted the factbook entry stating that the region was a protecterate of Kramerica until it was stabilized. that signaled ownership of LUE to technically belong to Cosmo

***

EDIT: and all natives have the password, barring Xenu, since he was an invader.
So basically Cosmo invaded the region, Xenu counter-invaded, Cosmo-counter-counter invaded, and then evisted a native who was not in the UN, kept him on the ban list, and changed the passoword, is that correct?

And didn't he say that he had only given the password to Xenu, of the four natives originally, and thus he knew that Xenu had revealed it, and ust therefore have planned the counter invasion?
Cosmo Kramerica
31-12-2003, 22:31
^ I have invaded LUE before, but this time there was a treaty in place..which was broken
New People
31-12-2003, 22:38
This is getting pretty good. :pops milkdud:
Pope Hope
31-12-2003, 23:09
You said the ADN wasn't going to deal with us. :wink:

First of all, I didn't say that. Ehukai did. And...you didn't see us in LUE, did you? Or in any of the other places you are attempting to invade at the moment... 8)

If anything, I was speaking in defense of your intentions with this particular situation in LUE. I meant it was ironic since we are supposedly enemies by default.

Ah, Alliance of Soviet Democracies! It's still there you know.

lol..yes, unfortunately. Apparently the region has had an internal mishap which they are currently working to correct.

I'll see you around, New People. I've recently been appointed a new role in the ADN. Feel free to contact me any time. :wink:

High Queen Pope Hope IV
Director of the Alliance Defense Network
Co-Director of ADN Intelligence
Regional Delegate/Founder of Nasicournia
31-12-2003, 23:51
Well, as far as the Blue Moon involvement goes, we were called in to defend an ancient region. we had no designs for taking over LUE and indeed, found out about the whole affair at the last minute (excepting RACAC). I have to say though, it was fun to learn this history and im proud to have been in on the defense.

Giraffeland13
Blue Moon something or other
New People
01-01-2004, 01:53
You said the ADN wasn't going to deal with us. :wink:

First of all, I didn't say that. Ehukai did. And...you didn't see us in LUE, did you?

You, ya'll, vous, vos.

Or in any of the other places you are attempting to invade at the moment... 8)

Spoilsport.

If anything, I was speaking in defense of your intentions with this particular situation in LUE. I meant it was ironic since we are supposedly enemies by default.

Aye. That doesn't mean we can't have a good working relationship though.

Ah, Alliance of Soviet Democracies! It's still there you know.

lol..yes, unfortunately. Apparently the region has had an internal mishap which they are currently working to correct.

I'll see you around, New People. I've recently been appointed a new role in the ADN. Feel free to contact me any time. :wink:

High Queen Pope Hope IV
Director of the Alliance Defense Network
Co-Director of ADN Intelligence
Regional Delegate/Founder of Nasicournia

If I see you around, I'll let you know about it, Pope.
Pope Hope
01-01-2004, 02:58
You, ya'll, vous, vos.

I know, I know, semantics. And it is, after all, the current ADN policy regarding the AA.

Spoilsport.

Oh come now, I'm an Intel gal. Nice save you just made, while we're talking about it. :wink:

Aye. That doesn't mean we can't have a good working relationship though.

My sentiments exactly. I can work with that.

If I see you around, I'll let you know about it, Pope.

lol...I'm sure you will. Let's just hope it's not in another World Factbook Entry. Tea sometime, perhaps? 8)

High Queen Pope Hope IV
Director of the Alliance Defense Network
Co-Director of ADN Intelligence
Regional Delegate/Founder of Nasicournia
Pope Hope
01-01-2004, 03:01
Well, as far as the Blue Moon involvement goes, we were called in to defend an ancient region. we had no designs for taking over LUE and indeed, found out about the whole affair at the last minute (excepting RACAC). I have to say though, it was fun to learn this history and im proud to have been in on the defense.

Giraffeland13
Blue Moon something or other

And this is good to hear coming from a member of Blue Moon.

Since it's my fault the thread got a bit off track, I've got to ask...anything new discovered regarding this situation?
New People
01-01-2004, 08:13
I have something. Err, could someone from Mercia the Next Generation or Kramerica or Blue Moon or something contact me so I can mention this to them? I'm not quite sure what to make of it just yet.
Spoffin
01-01-2004, 17:32
Check TMs
Pope Hope
01-01-2004, 19:25
NP, why don't you TG me as well? I'd love to help out. :wink:
01-01-2004, 21:50
I don't have it, and Clarkus won't give it to me, Playa or TG (its a tossup on any given day which one of us he hates most)

well, the only ppl i truly hate from MTNG, and will hate forevermore are you and Arkanarsk, as both have insulted me and blue moon, and had angered us repeatedly. and when you try 2 oust me, i shall not simply step down. i will do my |)4/\/\|)35+ to preserve Kramerica's current ownership of LUE. sure, i have been informed by Cosmo that i am not obligated 2 defend it, but i see an assignment through to the end. plus, it'll be a great space filler between assignments. :D
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Blue Moon Admin/joint leader
Kramerica War Hero
Recipient of The Cross of St. Cosmo
Devoted defender/invader/merc
New People
01-01-2004, 22:13
NP, why don't you TG me as well? I'd love to help out. :wink:

I would, but.... no.


Cheers.

New People, Field Commander
Atlantic Alliance
Spoffin
01-01-2004, 22:24
I don't have it, and Clarkus won't give it to me, Playa or TG (its a tossup on any given day which one of us he hates most)

well, the only ppl i truly hate from MTNG, and will hate forevermore are you and Arkanarsk, as both have insulted me and blue moon, and had angered us repeatedly. and when you try 2 oust me, i shall not simply step down. i will do my |)4/\/\|)35+ to preserve Kramerica's current ownership of LUE. sure, i have been informed by Cosmo that i am not obligated 2 defend it, but i see an assignment through to the end. plus, it'll be a great space filler between assignments. :D
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Blue Moon Admin/joint leader
Kramerica War Hero
Recipient of The Cross of St. Cosmo
Devoted defender/invader/merc
Whatever
Qaaolchoura
01-01-2004, 22:51
At any rate, could you possibly have CnC RMS check his telegrams, RACAC?

I would like permission (and password, which if you do not trust me you can change immediately afterwards) to move "The Long Arm of Qaa" into LUE, simply to watch things up close, if you do not mind.
Wind_waves_Water
01-01-2004, 23:06
I don't have it, and Clarkus won't give it to me, Playa or TG (its a tossup on any given day which one of us he hates most)

well, the only ppl i truly hate from MTNG, and will hate forevermore are you and Arkanarsk, as both have insulted me and blue moon, and had angered us repeatedly. and when you try 2 oust me, i shall not simply step down. i will do my |)4/\/\|)35+ to preserve Kramerica's current ownership of LUE. sure, i have been informed by Cosmo that i am not obligated 2 defend it, but i see an assignment through to the end. plus, it'll be a great space filler between assignments. :D
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Blue Moon Admin/joint leader
Kramerica War Hero
Recipient of The Cross of St. Cosmo
Devoted defender/invader/merc


I still think something is up. Then if you are going to defend lue..One of my old nations use to be in it anyway i can put a non UN puppet in it to watch it. (outlaw everything before is ceased to exist was in it for awhile)
Wind_waves_Water
01-01-2004, 23:11
I don't have it, and Clarkus won't give it to me, Playa or TG (its a tossup on any given day which one of us he hates most)

well, the only ppl i truly hate from MTNG, and will hate forevermore are you and Arkanarsk, as both have insulted me and blue moon, and had angered us repeatedly. and when you try 2 oust me, i shall not simply step down. i will do my |)4/\/\|)35+ to preserve Kramerica's current ownership of LUE. sure, i have been informed by Cosmo that i am not obligated 2 defend it, but i see an assignment through to the end. plus, it'll be a great space filler between assignments. :D
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Blue Moon Admin/joint leader
Kramerica War Hero
Recipient of The Cross of St. Cosmo
Devoted defender/invader/merc
Kramerica Embassy
02-01-2004, 08:28
It is 2:30 AM and LUE is under a massive surprise attack. Spoffin is taking over the delegacy of LUE!
Qaaolchoura
02-01-2004, 08:53
It is 2:30 AM and LUE is under a massive surprise attack. Spoffin is taking over the delegacy of LUE!
Again, I do not see why this would be a suprise. . . :?
Cosmo Kramerica
02-01-2004, 09:22
Ill say my final statements before LUE, a protectorate of Kramerica is taken by that horde of invading barbarians.

Spoffin. You and the incompetant army helping you will not be forgotten. You never should have meddled in our affairs as you have no relation to this region, and the regions helping you will surely pay with the price of genocide. One death is a tragedy, ten million a stastistic.


After watching, these new invaders have no idea what the story in LUE is or what has been happening! They are invading for two reasons, because they dont like CnC since they have warred against him in the past, and because LUE has been getting a lot of international attention so they want the attention and fame.
What a terrible way to destroy the progression of a good battle.


In case you are wondering, CnC was made delegate because he was the first to respond after I went to the pacific regions to ask for more help. When CnC arrived I had all Kramerican troops and I endorse him, and other nations from AA and BM did the same.
Tactical Grace
02-01-2004, 11:51
Hey man, that's politics. It is impossible to tell any more who is the rightful owner of that place. There's accusation and counter-accusation, and yeah, we have not seen any of it first hand. But we do know that the incumbent Delegate CnC r0x0rs my s0x0rs is an invader and an enemy, who long sought the destruction of the Mercian Regions, who when he grudgingly became a semi-ally of ours, by non-aggression treaty if nothing else, wiped an off-site forum because he could not stand the thought of having generals who have beaten him and his lot before as Moderators of it. So you could say it is personal, but it is also doing the right thing. Whoever that place belonged to, it certainly does not belong to him, and his breed of griefer.

25 minutes ago he was removed, 14-4 by Spoffin The Activist. MTNG pwned him. "Incompetent army"? Yeah, right. You got crushed by professionally-led mercenaries. Read the sig, read the motto.

Tactical Grace
Minister of War / Defence Consultancy, MTNG
Today I fly my flag over Mercia The Next Generation as UN Delegate
http://www.bigwig.net/~bbw10606/tg_unflag2.gif.gif
Imperial Forces
02-01-2004, 13:32
Blah, I bet none of yous could even tell what LUE is in the first place.

LUE was the first *non-pacific* region I was ever in, I'll consider aiding it.

Keyword:Consider.
Spoffin
02-01-2004, 15:05
Ah, news of my victory preceeds me.

Yes, we did.

I'd like to thank Tactical Grace and Qaaolchoura especially, they were what made this possible at this time and this place.

To everyone else who participated, thank you to you as well, you are all of you wonderful, wonderful people.

I'd also like to thank Clarkus for being criminally inept in allowing a puppet with Spoffin in its name to stay in his occupied region. Without that, we surely would have failed.

The flag of freedom flies above LUE tonight.

And the flag of Spoffin flies above the comfortable LUE presidential lodge.
Thanks also goes to The Real Xenu, the rightful leader of LUE. I'll be just... keeping this chair warm for you, until you can get here.
Qaaolchoura
02-01-2004, 16:35
Ill say my final statements before LUE, a protectorate of Kramerica is taken by that horde of invading barbarians.

Spoffin. You and the incompetant army helping you will not be forgotten. You never should have meddled in our affairs as you have no relation to this region, and the regions helping you will surely pay with the price of genocide. One death is a tragedy, ten million a stastistic.


After watching, these new invaders have no idea what the story in LUE is or what has been happening! They are invading for two reasons, because they dont like CnC since they have warred against him in the past, and because LUE has been getting a lot of international attention so they want the attention and fame.
What a terrible way to destroy the progression of a good battle.


In case you are wondering, CnC was made delegate because he was the first to respond after I went to the pacific regions to ask for more help. When CnC arrived I had all Kramerican troops and I endorse him, and other nations from AA and BM did the same.
No need for comment on this line.

Incompetants who took you by suprise when you should have been expecting something of this source. And why the empty threats.

We have all sorts of differenet reasons for doing it. I have nothing personal against any of you, I just didn't like the tones that some of you were taking, could see that my friends in Mercia (or two of them) had rivalries with you, and decided to burst your bubble. Even if we'd lost I would have made a point.

And wasn't us who ruined a good battle. You guys culd have made one last atttempt to salvage the situation for the night instead of fleeing. You ruined my fun a tad bit on that.

Indeed. Smart move. Either he gave the password to an incompetant moron who asked them to get help and instead gave it to us, or he gave it to one of our puppets. Either way, he still was foolish to have done so.

At an rate, you have a happy rest of the year too Cosmo. :wink:
Ackbar
02-01-2004, 16:38
Hard to take it all in in one sitting :arrow: Lots of Words.


As I read it, reminds me of the Faulklands, egos bigger then the land/region itself.

Why, exactly, is there such mass interest in the region? Just because the number of groups involved? Just asking, trying to catch up...
Spoffin
02-01-2004, 17:05
Why, exactly, is there such mass interest in the region? Just because the number of groups involved? Just asking, trying to catch up...
The region is very old, and so theres kindof an honour thing. Theres a rivalry there that goes back to the start of NS history too. Also, a lot of defenders feel that CnC duped them in the first invasion, and so they want back at him

And yes, with me and Clarkus, there is a bit of a rivalry going on.
Katganistan
02-01-2004, 18:19
incompetant army...

This must be some variant definition of the word incompetant that I am not aware of...
Qaaolchoura
02-01-2004, 18:34
incompetant army...

This must be some variant definition of the word incompetant that I am not aware of...
Huh? The two spellings look exactly the same. :?

Isn't it "incompetent"?

Funny, the original poste, the spellchecker, and the spellchecker's spellchecker(see my response to him) all spelled it wrong. ;)

That's gotta be a record. :lol:
Wind_waves_Water
02-01-2004, 18:55
Ill say my final statements before LUE, a protectorate of Kramerica is taken by that horde of invading barbarians.

Spoffin. You and the incompetant army helping you will not be forgotten. You never should have meddled in our affairs as you have no relation to this region, and the regions helping you will surely pay with the price of genocide. One death is a tragedy, ten million a stastistic.


After watching, these new invaders have no idea what the story in LUE is or what has been happening! They are invading for two reasons, because they dont like CnC since they have warred against him in the past, and because LUE has been getting a lot of international attention so they want the attention and fame.
What a terrible way to destroy the progression of a good battle.


In case you are wondering, CnC was made delegate because he was the first to respond after I went to the pacific regions to ask for more help. When CnC arrived I had all Kramerican troops and I endorse him, and other nations from AA and BM did the same.

Actually i have relation to this region...Back when Ns first started one of my nations was in LUE for a long time. And CNC was not allowing all the natives back in, MTNG is allowing every native back in. Soon after the threats go away a native will be in charge and we will leave the region.
See CNC only allowed in certain natives not all...We have allowed in all.
Bardai
02-01-2004, 19:15
Awwww, Spoffin, why'd you have to take LUE over?? We were all sitting here with our popcorn and beverage hats, watching Kramerica & co. go at each other's throats... it was so good!
Qaaolchoura
02-01-2004, 20:07
Awwww, Spoffin, why'd you have to take LUE over?? We were all sitting here with our popcorn and beverage hats, watching Kramerica & co. go at each other's throats... it was so good!
Because CnC was giving me the password every time that he changed it. It seemed like too good of an opportunity to pass up, so I told him and gave him the pasword to Qeranal, and he had TG gather up some allies. Then we struck and seized it.
Goobergunchia
02-01-2004, 20:10
Nice going, Qaa and MTNG!

<---- decides he has to get a puppet into LUE
Cosmo Kramerica
02-01-2004, 20:10
And CNC was not allowing all the natives back in
There were 4 natives in LUE. 1 Was ejected. Xenu for breaking our treaty.

I said it before and Ill say it again, this incompetant army made the invasion not in the interests of LUE, they did it for the attention.
Qaaolchoura
02-01-2004, 20:26
Nice going, Qaa and MTNG!
We had help from all over: Reem, Luna Amore, The Basenji (or rather his UN puppet), nations from Area 51, The Sardukar Confederacy, The Free Pacific Army. . .
Katganistan
02-01-2004, 20:26
And CNC was not allowing all the natives back in
There were 4 natives in LUE. 1 Was ejected. Xenu for breaking our treaty.

I said it before and Ill say it again, this incompetant army made the invasion not in the interests of LUE, they did it for the attention.

inadequate to or unsuitable for a particular purpose
or
lacking the qualities needed for effective action
unable to function properly <incompetent heart valves>

Hmmmmm, doesn't look like the right word, I'm afraid -- for the army, that is.
Goobergunchia
02-01-2004, 20:30
Nice going, Qaa and MTNG!
We had help from all over: Reem, Luna Amore, The Basenji (or rather his UN puppet), nations from Area 51, The Sardukar Confederacy, The Free Pacific Army. . .

Feel free to t-gram me if you guys plan on doing anything like this again, as I'd be happy to help.
Qaaolchoura
02-01-2004, 20:41
And CNC was not allowing all the natives back in
There were 4 natives in LUE. 1 Was ejected. Xenu for breaking our treaty.

I said it before and I'll say it again, this incompetent army made the invasion not in the interests of LUE, they did it for the attention.
And left him banned. That is illegal. You are lucky that we re-captured the region and unbanned him instead of reporting you.

Tactical Grace could have gotten you and/or CnC deleted in no time.

And about half of the incompetent invaders (who took the region on our first try mind, something that competent invaders usually fail to do) are quite famous as it is, and this is not going to make us any more so. The rest are professional defenders and those who simply wanted to help MTGN (come to think of it, we were all one or both of those two things).

And Cosmo. I talked to CnC on the SSRPRA board, and he seems to realize that it is all just a fun little game. Why are you so shocked and appalled about this?
Qaaolchoura
02-01-2004, 20:42
<-double post->
Qaaolchoura
02-01-2004, 20:45
Nice going, Qaa and MTNG!
We had help from all over: Reem, Luna Amore, The Basenji (or rather his UN puppet), nations from Area 51, The Sardukar Confederacy, The Free Pacific Army. . .

Feel free to t-gram me if you guys plan on doing anything like this again, as I'd be happy to help.
I almost did, then recalled that you'd annouced that you did not wish to get DU involved in the invading game.

And I'll see about getting you a puppet in LUE.

If worst comes to worst I can always move it in for you, but I think that he won't mind you getting the pass directly.
Qaaolchoura
02-01-2004, 20:45
<double post>

Why does theserver wait until after somebody replies to work properly? :evil:
Spoffin
02-01-2004, 20:48
And CNC was not allowing all the natives back in
There were 4 natives in LUE. 1 Was ejected. Xenu for breaking our treaty.

I said it before and Ill say it again, this incompetant army made the invasion not in the interests of LUE, they did it for the attention.2 points.

1) The incompetant army (which I'm now adopting as our official title BTW) was the fastest assembled I've ever seen. I took the region with almost three times as many endorsements as I needed, and I did it inside of three and a half hours.

2) I didn't do it for attention. I did it for revenge. Clarkus (CnC) duped MTNG and a bunch of other defenders into invading a region for him. Add to that our personal history and I couldn't pass up the opportunity. An extra bonus to this was that we did the right thing and returned LUE to Xenu.
Goobergunchia
02-01-2004, 20:50
I almost did, then recalled that you'd annouced that you did not wish to get DU involved in the invading game.

Ah, but I'm not DU, and since I'm no longer Delegate, I don't have to worry about maintaining endorsements. :P
Spoffin
02-01-2004, 20:57
Goob, check TMs
Qaaolchoura
02-01-2004, 21:00
I almost did, then recalled that you'd annouced that you did not wish to get DU involved in the invading game.

Ah, but I'm not DU, and since I'm no longer Delegate, I don't have to worry about maintaining endorsements. :P
Naleth said that if he weren't delegate, he'd have joined us as well, c said that she would have if she'd awoken in time, and Corinthe said that it's a hoax to get attention for LUE, but that had she not been tied down, she would have joined as as well anywhen.


Ackbar said that he's in the middle of a long-term project at the moment, but that he'll send us help at the moment.

I'm almost suprised that Loop didn't give up delegacy of the Pacific, the way that everybody seemed interested in taking LUE.

Say Goober, would you be interested in trying to organize a DU contingent?
Qaaolchoura
02-01-2004, 21:04
Goober, check telegrams.
Goobergunchia
02-01-2004, 21:13
Goob, check TMs
Recieved, thanks.


Say Goober, would you be interested in trying to organize a DU contingent?

A DU Army? We used to do region crashing back in May, but that's forgotten now. There's really not many members that are very active, but I could try to organize something.

Although I don't know how thrilled other regional members would be about this....
Cosmo Kramerica
02-01-2004, 21:19
And left him banned. That is illegal. You are lucky that we re-captured the region and unbanned him instead of reporting you.

Tactical Grace could have gotten you and/or CnC deleted in no time.

And about half of the incompetent invaders (who took the region on our first try mind, something that competent invaders usually fail to do) are quite famous as it is, and this is not going to make us any more so. The rest are professional defenders and those who simply wanted to help MTGN (come to think of it, we were all one or both of those two things).

And Cosmo. I talked to CnC on the SSRPRA board, and he seems to realize that it is all just a fun little game. Why are you so shocked and appalled about this?

I am not shocked or appalled, it is called leaving angry, evil statements to psyke your enemies because thats all you can do. And yes all this is fun.

About Xenu getting ejected. That isnt against the rules to eject just one person. The mods recognized this im sure. Francos Spain has people ejected from the Pacific all the time.

About being "famous"...lol what a thing to say about yourself

Another thing, our first defence attempt was the same as yours in terms of its size and speed. The second time I didnt bother doing anything.
Spoffin
02-01-2004, 21:38
Another thing, our first defence attempt was the same as yours in terms of its size and speed. The second time I didnt bother doing anything.Second time you were unable to do anything, as you admitted yourself.
Qaaolchoura
02-01-2004, 22:17
I am not shocked or appalled, it is called leaving angry, evil statements to psyke your enemies because thats all you can do. And yes all this is fun.

About Xenu getting ejected. That isnt against the rules to eject just one person. The mods recognized this im sure. Francos Spain has people ejected from the Pacific all the time.

About being "famous"...lol what a thing to say about yourself

Another thing, our first defence attempt was the same as yours in terms of its size and speed. The second time I didnt bother doing anything.
Ahh, I'd thought that you were taking this a tad too seriously

It is against the rules to keep him banned however.

Famous is relative. I'm not as famous as say, Goobergunchia is, or Spoffin to be sure, but I'm better known than many players. To give an isea of my famous threshold: Talkos, Eridanus, Reem, Luna Amore, Sdaeriji, The Basenji, Wind_waves_Water, and of course Spoffin and myself, are "quite famous [I meant to include "enough"]", by which I meant, that this would not increase our reputations by a significant amount. Make of that what you will.

And yes I do have a rather inflated ego as well.

Spoffin already responded to the last paragraph quite accurately. You said "It is too late to do anything, we've been taken by a suprise attack late at night" or something to that effect, o the Kramerica MB then on this thread you said that LUE was under attack, and called for help which did not come.
Qaaolchoura
02-01-2004, 22:19
A DU Army? We used to do region crashing back in May, but that's forgotten now. There's really not many members that are very active, but I could try to organize something.

Although I don't know how thrilled other regional members would be about this....
I have a similar situation in my region, but I'm trying to recruit more UN members who are interested.
Tactical Grace
02-01-2004, 22:45
It is 2:30 AM and LUE is under a massive surprise attack. Spoffin is taking over the delegacy of LUE!
Ill say my final statements before LUE, a protectorate of Kramerica is taken by that horde of invading barbarians.

Spoffin. You and the incompetant army helping you will not be forgotten.

The contrast between the two statements is remarkable. Even ignoring the excellent reputations of the participants.

Anyway, for a bit of light amusement, here is what the ex-Delegate of LUE had to say on the Blue Moon Regional HQ Board a short while ago:

THERE IS A GDODAD SPY IN BLUE MOON!!! ah well. spy all ya want. go ahead. invade us. i dare you.
AHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! curse my inability 2 think ahead! AHHHH!!! i am srry 4 posting the above message in this location.

Indeed. Perhaps, Kramerica, next time you need allies to do your dirty work, you might reconsider manipulating Blue Moon and MTNG into participating in the same operation.

This wrong has been put right.

Tactical Grace
Minister of War / Defence Consultancy, MTNG
Spoffin
03-01-2004, 02:18
Spoffin. You and the incompetant army helping you will not be forgotten.
Lets hope not, yeah? :D


To The Incompetant Army!
Pope Hope
03-01-2004, 02:19
Dah...I'm gone for a night and I lose track of the plotline of this delicious drama. Sorry, but I'm a bit confused here...aren't Blue Moon and MTNG allies? What's with the GDODAD comment?

BTW, guys, TG, Quaal, Bas my love...if you enjoy participating in missions like this often, you should join the ADN. We'd love to have you. :wink:

High Queen Pope Hope IV
Director of the Alliance Defense Network
Regional Delegate/Founder of Nasicournia
Co-Director of ADN Intelligence
Tactical Grace
03-01-2004, 02:22
We are allies, in that we have a non-aggression pact with them. We were misled into taking part in one of Blue Moon's invasions. And so we have put it right.

Tactical Grace
Minister of War / Defence Consultancy, MTNG
Wind_waves_Water
03-01-2004, 04:43
Im famous but under a differnt name "playa chk" Alot of older memeber know who i am the new ones not so much. But im getting better. Im the founder of mtng (just with a differnt nation) and i perticipate in a lot of things.
Qaaolchoura
03-01-2004, 04:52
Spoffin. You and the incompetant army helping you will not be forgotten.
Lets hope not, yeah? :D


To The Incompetant Army!
To The Incompetant Army! (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=110867&highlight=)
Qaaolchoura
03-01-2004, 04:54
Dah...I'm gone for a night and I lose track of the plotline of this delicious drama. Sorry, but I'm a bit confused here...aren't Blue Moon and MTNG allies? What's with the GDODAD comment?

BTW, guys, TG, Quaal, Bas my love...if you enjoy participating in missions like this often, you should join the ADN. We'd love to have you. :wink:

High Queen Pope Hope IV
Director of the Alliance Defense Network
Regional Delegate/Founder of Nasicournia
Co-Director of ADN Intelligence
I may help you if I can get XF into an invader region, but the ADN includes Alcatraz, no?

Can you see about getting Vanquez to quit spamming my puppets? :evil: :twisted: :P
Qaaolchoura
03-01-2004, 04:55
Im famous but under a differnt name "playa chk" Alot of older memeber know who i am the new ones not so much. But im getting better. Im the founder of mtng (just with a differnt nation) and i perticipate in a lot of things.
Your intel network is also at least as large as mine.
New People
03-01-2004, 05:19
Dah...I'm gone for a night and I lose track of the plotline of this delicious drama. Sorry, but I'm a bit confused here...aren't Blue Moon and MTNG allies? What's with the GDODAD comment?

BTW, guys, TG, Quaal, Bas my love...if you enjoy participating in missions like this often, you should join the ADN. We'd love to have you. :wink:

High Queen Pope Hope IV
Director of the Alliance Defense Network
Regional Delegate/Founder of Nasicournia
Co-Director of ADN Intelligence

Ahem? Last night was the one night I go to bed too.

And I'd much rather have them in my Alliance. Although, I did send Tactical Grace a telegram she never responded to. Humph.


-Field Commander New People
Atlantic Alliance
Pope Hope
03-01-2004, 05:24
Ahem? Last night was the one night I go to bed too.

And I'd much rather have them in my Alliance. Although, I did send Tactical Grace a telegram she never responded to. Humph.

-Field Commander New People
Atlantic Alliance

lol...I must say, NP, I am quickly growing quite fond of you. :wink:

It is ironic that neither of us were around last night...

BTW, Tactical Grace is not female. Perhaps that is why he didn't respond. :D
Pope Hope
03-01-2004, 05:29
I may help you if I can get XF into an invader region, but the ADN includes Alcatraz, no?

Can you see about getting Vanquez to quit spamming my puppets? :evil: :twisted: :P

XF?

Vazquez is one of the two founders of the ADN. You should talk to him about the puppet thing...maybe the two of you could work something out. lol
Anyway, I was under the impression he has recruitment officers to bring new members in.

Regardless, feel free to contact me if you'd like to move one of your puppets into Nasicournia (assuming you do not have one here already) and give the ADN a look-see. I think you'll find I'm an Intel person as well. Let's talk. :wink:

I'll be curious to continue following events in LUE. It seems new contacts have been made and perhaps new tensions caused as well.

High Queen Pope Hope IV
Director of the Alliance Defense Network
Regional Delegate/Founder of Nasicournia
Co-Director of ADN Intelligence
New People
03-01-2004, 05:35
Ahem? Last night was the one night I go to bed too.

And I'd much rather have them in my Alliance. Although, I did send Tactical Grace a telegram she never responded to. Humph.

-Field Commander New People
Atlantic Alliance

lol...I must say, NP, I am quickly growing quite fond of you. :wink:

It is ironic that neither of us were around last night...

BTW, Tactical Grace is not female. Perhaps that is why he didn't respond. :D

Why the heck do I keep getting all these female vibes from people that are clearly men? :oops: :evil:

I'm a soldier, not a diplomat.

-Field Commander New People
Atlantic Alliance
Olá from Brazil!
New People
03-01-2004, 05:41
I may help you if I can get XF into an invader region, but the ADN includes Alcatraz, no?

Can you see about getting Vanquez to quit spamming my puppets? :evil: :twisted: :P

XF?

Vazquez is one of the two founders of the ADN. You should talk to him about the puppet thing...maybe the two of you could work something out. lol
Anyway, I was under the impression he has recruitment officers to bring new members in.

Regardless, feel free to contact me if you'd like to move one of your puppets into Nasicournia (assuming you do not have one here already) and give the ADN a look-see. I think you'll find I'm an Intel person as well. Let's talk. :wink:

I'll be curious to continue following events in LUE. It seems new contacts have been made and perhaps new tensions caused as well.

High Queen Pope Hope IV
Director of the Alliance Defense Network
Regional Delegate/Founder of Nasicournia
Co-Director of ADN Intelligence

:Shoves PopeHope out of the way:

You're welcome to send as many puppets into Atlantic as you'd like, or Marsburg, which is my home but it's rather quiet (I've once cleared out the region and refounded it twice because I like it better when nothing was said in the civil hq), or Poland, one of the liveliest regions in the Alliance. But I don't think you know much Polish.

You're welcome to give the Alliance a look-see. In fact, you're invited to give it more than that, a once-over wouldn't do it, you can give it a good hard lookin' into. our top-knotch forum is very accomodating to others -we've manually installed a second language into the phpbb software to accomodate our non-English speaking residents in Poland.

-Field Commander New People
Atlantic Alliance
Pope Hope
03-01-2004, 05:47
DP
Pope Hope
03-01-2004, 05:47
lol...well, if it's any consolation, NP, I am a girl...no doubt about that.

I guess what it comes down to is...if you're into invasions and fighting the ADN, check out the AA. If you're into liberations, defending, ignoring the AA, and counter-invasions, check out the ADN.

Anyway, I thought Quaal already had a puppet in the Atlantic?

And oh yeah...

*Picks self up and brushes dirt off of coat, while glaring at the shover* No shoving ladies!
New People
03-01-2004, 05:56
lol...well, if it's any consolation, NP, I am a girl...no doubt about that.

Finally I'm close to the mark.

I guess what it comes down to is...if you're into invasions and fighting the ADN, check out the AA. If you're into liberations, defending, ignoring the AA, and counter-invasions, check out the ADN.

The Atlantic Alliance does many of those things as well.

And oh yeah...

*Picks self up and brushes dirt off of coat, while glaring at the shover* No shoving ladies!

:oops:
Qaaolchoura
03-01-2004, 06:02
I wanna do some invading, and some defending.

I suppose that I can be like a wild card. :P

Oh yeah, and PH and NP I'm about to send you both telegrams on a certain matter, so check them.
New People
03-01-2004, 11:33
Checked. I'll be more happy than PopeHope is to help out.
Tactical Grace
03-01-2004, 18:55
I have now replied to New People's telegram.

Pope Hope is female? I think you told me that before but . . . hm. :?

Regarding MTNG's position with respect to alliances, we are willing to work with rivals impartially, if the cause seems right. There is nothing wrong with a little adventure bringing some unlikely regions together for a short while.

Tactical Grace
UN Delegate / Minister of War / Defence Consultancy
Mercia The Next Generation (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_region/region=Mercia_The_Next_Generation)
Qaaolchoura
03-01-2004, 19:35
Anyway, I thought Quaal already had a puppet in the Atlantic?

Nope.

I have a puppet in AtlanticAlliance and The Atlantic Alliance since I think that one of these parodies might grow some.

I keep forgetting. MTGN is the only crashing region in which I have a puppet in so far, simply because I'm going to research them a bit first.
Pope Hope
03-01-2004, 20:33
New People, I responded to Quaal right away last night. That would be Friday night, btw, whereas you seem to have replied today. Who is more eager to help out? :wink:

TG, I do believe I have told you before that I am a girl. Ask Slaggy or Bas...they've seen pictures of me. If the nation name threw you off--don't worry, it does that a lot. It started as a religious parody, before I fell in love with Nation States. Just as obviously no guy could be well-worded enough to create a nation named Tactical Grace, eh? lol

Anyway, this forum has already been extremely beneficial for the crashers and defenders of the NS world. I'm happy to be chatting here with y'all. 8)
03-01-2004, 23:20
I am Xenu,

I never come to the forum, I always send a messenger but I thought it best that I should say something.

Lue is once again safe from the hoards of Kramerica,Blue Moon and Atlantic Alliance.
The true regime of Lue rules again and plans to stay ruling there. I thank all that played a part in its liberation.
The dreams that were first dreamt by the first revolutionaries of Lue are now safe from that wicked monarchy of Kramerica and Clarkus.

The danger is far from over though, Cosmo Kramerica has promised to attack again. Blue Moon has also promised to do the same again. And there are still Kramerica loyalists in Lue, we hope to have them rehabilitated from the region shortly. But until then we are on our guard.


Lue is safe, but the war is not over :D
So Sayeth Xenu
Lord Xenu
Lue
Qaaolchoura
03-01-2004, 23:35
New People, I responded to Quaal right away last night. That would be Friday night, btw, whereas you seem to have replied today. Who is more eager to help out? :wink:

Ahh, but you didn't. I sent it around 12:30 Saturday morning, so you couldn't have responded on Friday unless you responded before I sent it. :P
Spoffin
03-01-2004, 23:36
I am Xenu,

I never come to the forum, I always send a messenger but I thought it best that I should say something.

Lue is once again safe from the hoards of Kramerica,Blue Moon and Atlantic Alliance.
The true regime of Lue rules again and plans to stay ruling there. I thank all that played a part in its liberation.
The dreams that were first dreamt by the first revolutionaries of Lue are now safe from that wicked monarchy of Kramerica and Clarkus.

The danger is far from over though, Cosmo Kramerica has promised to attack again. Blue Moon has also promised to do the same again. And there are still Kramerica loyalists in Lue, we hope to have them rehabilitated from the region shortly. But until then we are on our guard.


Lue is safe, but the war is not over :D
So Sayeth Xenu
Lord Xenu
Lue
You will have my support in whatever form I am able to give for as long as you need it.
Pope Hope
04-01-2004, 02:04
Ahh, but you didn't. I sent it around 12:30 Saturday morning, so you couldn't have responded on Friday unless you responded before I sent it. :P

In what time zone was it 12:30 AM? :wink:
Qaaolchoura
04-01-2004, 02:21
Ahh, but you didn't. I sent it around 12:30 Saturday morning, so you couldn't have responded on Friday unless you responded before I sent it. :P

In what time zone was it 12:30 AM? :wink:
EST.
Pope Hope
04-01-2004, 03:09
Well, that would be the difference. It was 11:30 here in the Midwest. 8) <--- Although no need for the sunglasses, since it's evening now and about ready to snow to boot...
Cosmo Kramerica
08-01-2004, 22:55
Regional Happenings
11 minutes ago: The Republic of LUE I departed this region for The Rejected Realms
11 minutes ago: The Republic of Eisley ejected The Republic of LUE I from the region.
17 minutes ago: The Matriarchal Clans of The Drinking Masses departed this region for The Alliance of Imperials
23 minutes ago: The Loyal Roman Legions of PD Byzantium arrived from The Roman Empire.
31 minutes ago: The Godhood of The Real Xenu departed this region for The Rejected Realms
31 minutes ago: The Republic of Eisley ejected The Godhood of The Real Xenu from the region.
49 minutes ago: The Dominion of Dragon Peaks arrived from Coalition of Evil Iceburg.
52 minutes ago: The Republic of Eisley changed the regional password.
4 hours ago: The Matriarchal Clans of The Drinking Masses arrived from The Rejected Realms.
5 hours ago: The Matriarchal Clans of The Drinking Masses departed this region for France

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LUE Civil Headquarters
Messages from regional members are co-ordinated here.

Lodged From Message

22 hours ago
The Godhood of The Real Xenu
Eisley? I mean I know Eisley, no offense to Eisley of course. But he just showed up.
You really think thats a good idea?



22 hours ago
The Invasion corps of The chronozon
Well, think of it. You got Eisley, scandinavien liberal paradise as a government. Eisley is not an invader, has no problem with us nor with Cosmo or any of our enemies.
Eisley could run this place really well. and no agenda's to the Kramerican war.
I doubt it would be a ruthless leadership. Of course its up to you of course.
22 hours ago The Godhood of The Real Xenu Its actually not a bad idea. I'm kind of upset that I didn't come up with it but it still a good one I have to admit.
Well, I have to ask Eisley first. and if Eisley says yes I will then step down as ruler of Lue.



22 hours ago
The Kingdom of Moldaria
Something fishy is going on.

"King of Moldaria turns head to look the other way and whispers to himself, see no evil hear no evil"


Moldaria
Neutral Nation-I don't want to know



20 hours ago
The Tranquility of Stella Amore
The Kingdom of Moldaria - "Something fishy is going on."

I'm glad I'm not the only one who smells it.



18 hours ago
The Disputed Territories of Turkish Cyprus Fishy
like a fox!



16 hours ago
The Republic of LUE I
Handing over power huh? sounds good
but for some reason I get the fealing this is being done to blind me from something your else your scheaming



107 minutes ago
The Godhood of The Real Xenu
Well, Eisley has been put in the delegacy.
Then it is settled. Peace will reign in Lue.
I hand control of the region to Eisley.

EISLEY IS THE NEW RULER OF LUE

I bow to the new regime of Lue.

So sayeth Xenu
Former ruler of Lue.



31 minutes ago
The Republic of Eisley
Well, as the new regime ruler here of Lue I believe its time we had some changes around here. For the better of course.
I'm expected to create peace, I can tell thats why I'm in that position. I have every intention of complying with that.
To create peace we will have to deal with what makes it un peaceful here.
The two sources of violence and war here are of course Xenu and Cosmo Kramerica.
I have made a decision in this area that I believe is sound and fair.
The Rulership of Lue has made a decision on Xenu:

Xenu has been a very violent force for Lue. He has endangered this region millions of times and for that he is treasonous against his own people and is Lue's most dangerous enemy.

I have decided that Xenu must be removed from the region.
The Godhood Of Xenu is guilty of these charges and will be placed under permanent exile.

Eisley



13 minutes ago
The Republic of Eisley
Now that the matter with Xenu has been dealt with, I think the violence will begin to end.

The Matter Of Cosmo Kramerica:
Cosmo Kramerica and Kramerica have done nothing but bombard this region with invasion after invasion. They have caused just as much destruction to Lue as Xenu has.
Since Cosmo Kramerica nor Kramerica are not members here it is easily dealt with by not allowing them here under friendly terms.
LUE I though is here and is a known agent of Kramerica and has been shown to be a puppet of Cosmo Kramerica and it has been proven that LUE I's position here has been one of warfare and down right terrorism.
That shall not be aloud.

LUE I shall be exiled from this region for actions of warfare tolitarian take over.
LUE I shall be exiled permanently.


Eisley
Cosmo Kramerica
08-01-2004, 23:39
18 minutes ago
The Republic of Eisley
Now peace can reign in Lue.
There shall be no war with Xenu nor Cosmo Kramerica foughten here any longer.

The next order of business for Lue is a change of government.
We will be making changes in how this region is ran. Lue will best exist under an imperial rulership.
I have decided that Lue shall become part of an empire. Lue shall be positioned inside RAID and be under the complete control of The Roman Empire.
When PD Byzantium has been put in position I shall hand over all rulership of Lue to PD Byzantium. By doing so Lue will now be controlled by The Throne Of Rome so peace can reign and always be protected.

Eisley