NationStates Jolt Archive

I am tired of getting deleted my most recent country Anarchist Capital did nothing to no one and once again i was deleted i have had 5 nations that have done nothing at all i admitted what i did and i understand that is is wrong and give you my word that i will not break a single rule i just want to play and have fun i mean come on you mods should be happy you destroyed our empire and we have nothing left. Please i have seen the error of my ways and this might not count for a lot but i have backed u mods up today againest a lot of people i just want to create regions for peace and just have fun and not have all the deletions i just want to play why can't you guys the mods just let me play if i break the smallest rule then u can kick my out but i have not done anything all weekend i am asking you to just let me play and have fun

OK, mate, as Snow might say (lord only knows why, but I've been listening to "12 Inches of Snow" a lot recently) "listen fo' me ya betta listen fo me now".

You have not only broken rules of the game under your past incarnations, you have also (as I understand it) broken the law under past incarnations. Quite frankly, I don't care if you're a reformed criminal or not, you have no place here. What you did was worse than griefing, multi-ing, spamming or flaming. Because of that, you are not to re-appear here ever again. Do I make myself absolutely 100% clear and with no hint of confusion?

:shock: Whoa...

I'm guessing he was the not so 1337 h4><0r

I'm guessing he was the not so 1337 h4><0r

He made an attempt to hack into the NS server? :?

I'm guessing he was the not so 1337 h4><0r

He made an attempt to hack into the NS server? :?

Mr NS2 Beta site (I think)

May I inquire as to what he did that was so despicably evil?
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Mabye he did. Hacking is dumb anyway.

**speculation, don't take this as gospel truth**



I think he was this guy.
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=105831

I don't need to click on the link to know what he did now. Why can't we just IP ban the bugger?

I don't need to click on the link to know what he did now. Why can't we just IP ban the bugger?

[violet] is away... although that doesn't explain why [rep prod] the forum god hasn't banned him. Dynamic IP perhaps. Who knows?

**speculation, don't take this as gospel truth**



I think he was this guy.
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=105831
Methinkest that thou dost be correct.

After all, JARROS did admit to everything.

I don't need to click on the link to know what he did now. Why can't we just IP ban the bugger?

[violet] is away... although that doesn't explain why [rep prod] the forum god hasn't banned him. Dynamic IP perhaps. Who knows?

Prehaps a proxy, or a dial up modem like Beeks had. We need to find a way to ban anyone from this site.

I don't need to click on the link to know what he did now. Why can't we just IP ban the bugger?

[violet] is away... although that doesn't explain why [rep prod] the forum god hasn't banned him. Dynamic IP perhaps. Who knows?

Prehaps a proxy, or a dial up modem like Beeks had. We need to find a way to ban anyone from this site.

The only way to ban someone with a dynamic IP from the site is to ban their ISP's IP range... but then that means that lots of other people could end up banned too.

AOL is the worst ISP. It's impossible to get rid of a user because of their damned spider proxies.

How about if they have an Ip spoofer? (or masker as they say )

Too bad the email address thing Roan proposed didn't work out. It would have at least discouraged the n00bs from harassing NS as much as they do now.

DHCP (Dynamic IPs) are not the only impediments to IP bans. I can think of at least three other methods to defeat an IP ban (though I won't share them, for what should be obvious reasons).

Lol revileing nay secret of that matter will make a disator .

Salusa is already aware of the methods I know about. Actually, he made me aware of a couple of them. :D

I can think of at least three other methods to defeat an IP ban (though I won't share them, for what should be obvious reasons).

Your not the only one then. :wink:

Of course he would. You're both server gremlins.

What did this guy do?

Too bad the email address thing Roan proposed didn't work out. It would have at least discouraged the n00bs from harassing NS as much as they do now.

I still say that people who want to actually play the game won't care if it becomes just a tad bit difficult.

But noooo.

Of course he would. You're both server gremlins.

What did this guy do?

We *belive* he made the whole NS2 beta site, where he stole the password to your nation though some way.

Ah.

One of 'em fellows. :roll: They sore do lake Chrissiemas, don't they.

I can neither confirm nor deny that this player was the creator of the NS2 Beta Site.

Ah.

One of 'em fellows. :roll: They sore do lake Chrissiemas, don't they.

This one wasn't a complete moron. He made a site that was made to look like NS2, and found a way to steal passwords from there NSI nations. On NSI he flamed, had UN multis, tried to prove the mods were conspiring against us, had puppets support his arguments.

I can neither confirm nor deny that this player was the creator of the NS2 Beta Site.

Eh, it seems the only logical thing to assume. What else can be that bad?

I can neither confirm nor deny that this player was the creator of the NS2 Beta Site.

Eh, it seems the only logical thing to assume. What else can be that bad?

He could be one of those pedophiles(sp?) that occasionally come on and say things like 'rape your children'.

But then again, that seems like an insult to pedophiles.

We've had those before, and they were never treated with this much...firmness.

How about if they have an Ip spoofer? (or masker as they say )

They have other ways of tracking people...

Login times, for example.

Just a little note, your browser sends a lot more information to sites than you think.

Click here to see it (http://www.vinari.co.uk/junk/index.php)

EDIT: There's an alternate, less nice to read but more accurate, version here (http://www.vinari.co.uk/junk/index2.php) if anyone's interested. The first version literally lists everything individually, the second is simply a variable dump of the $_SERVER array.

Yes, I know this isn't user specific, but a lot of the information in there is affected by the user.

there have been a lot of anti mod forums going around. Im wondering if we wont see more of his in the future as NS becomes more popular, among differen crowds.

Oh we'll see more "anti-moddists", of that you can be certain. What I pray we won't see any more of is this type of indisidious little weed.

look everyone wants to now so i will tell everyone if the mods dont delete this post like they did the last time i sent a post like this one but heres what happen i created a website that was meant to steal passwords and it only stole 3 passwords out of The world which contains 106,651 nations in 11,669 regions. The site took me only 5 minutes to make and i didnt even think it would work but it did i took there passwords but i didnt do anything like suicide by mods or flaming or any of that stuff i just took it. I admit that i JARROS did do it but 3 out of 106,651 nations should give me the ultimate punishment of banning me for life i dont think so why can u explain why 3 passwords which i did not do anything and it also gave you the chance to stop this before some other guys that would have done worse with this since suprisely to me that i was the first to do this is wont break i wont do anything againest the rules or the law i just want to have fun and you mods can keep tabs on me if you want but i wont do anything i swear to u on everything that is holy i wont break the rules i mean i could be planning an elobriate plan to get back in but i am begging u nicely to let me back Also can u let this nation last long enough to be able to but some responses to u then you can delete me

P.S. I give them 10 minutes before this nation is deleted :cry:

Oh we'll see more "anti-moddists", of that you can be certain. What I pray we won't see any more of is this type of indisidious little weed.

Wow...I think those are some of the harshest words I've ever seen a mod use. :shock: I admire you more and more every day! :lol:

Why does it make any difference whether it was one password or twenty?? It doesn't.

well they should thank me that i did it before some eviler guy did and taken out half the nations

P.S. I give them 10 minutes before this nation is deleted :cry:

I give it less. Listen, what you did was a criminal offense. Do you realize you can go to jail for what you did? You're being let off easy, I suggest you take it before your IP is reported to the police and you are arrested for hacking a site. Just incase this isn't clear to you, let me hammer the point home-

What you did was hacking. Hacking is against the law. You have broken the law.

first of all i didnt hack anything the players gave me there passwords

first of all i didnt hack anything the players gave me there passwords

well they should thank me that i did it before some eviler guy did and taken out half the nations

Actually, you should be thanking them for not seeking to have criminal charges lodged against you...

what i did is not againest the law smart guy people think i hacked into the site tell u the truth i cant hack to save my life

look everyone wants to now so i will tell everyone if the mods dont delete this post like they did the last time i sent a post like this one but heres what happen i created a website that was meant to steal passwords and it only stole 3 passwords out of The world which contains 106,651 nations in 11,669 regions. The site took me only 5 minutes to make and i didnt even think it would work but it did i took there passwords but i didnt do anything like suicide by mods or flaming or any of that stuff i just took it. I admit that i JARROS did do it but 3 out of 106,651 nations should give me the ultimate punishment of banning me for life i dont think so why can u explain why 3 passwords which i did not do anything and it also gave you the chance to stop this before some other guys that would have done worse with this since suprisely to me that i was the first to do this is wont break i wont do anything againest the rules or the law i just want to have fun and you mods can keep tabs on me if you want but i wont do anything i swear to u on everything that is holy i wont break the rules i mean i could be planning an elobriate plan to get back in but i am begging u nicely to let me back Also can u let this nation last long enough to be able to but some responses to u then you can delete me

P.S. I give them 10 minutes before this nation is deleted :cry:

Whoa, deciphering that gave me a headache. :shock: :evil:

sorry i cant write to save my life either

Because of that, you are not to re-appear here ever again. Do I make myself absolutely 100% clear and with no hint of confusion?

To translate-

Get lost.

See how easy that is to follow? :D

i dont think so i want to talk to an admin about this

Let me get you an email address... :roll:

admin@nationstates.net

what i did is not againest the law smart guy people think i hacked into the site tell u the truth i cant hack to save my life

< I apologize in advance to the Mods if by responding I am being counterproductive to your wishes>

I agree. You did not hack. You committed wire fraud by obtaining passwords through deceptive means, you committed copyright offenses by fraudulently reproducing copyrighted material, you violated the TOS of your ISP, and you pissed off an entire community.

I make a living teaching computer courses at the collegiate level. Had you done this in one of our labs, you would have been arrested, charged, and expelled from the college for life. You're complaining because you can't come back here????????? Get a grip.....

last time i checked it has to exist for it to be copyrighted as i understand that nationstates 2 is only in the planning stage so it could not be copyrighted

P.S. I cant believe that lasted this long :twisted:

Well said Hatchibombitar.

well u kno if i had not played this game for the last 6 months u probably would have done mcuh worse illegal stuff

last time i checked it has to exist for it to be copyrighted as i understand that nationstates 2 is only in the planning stage so it could not be copyrighted

P.S. I cant believe that lasted this long :twisted:

Because this is my last day on NS for the foreseeable future, I'm going to go all out.

You, sir, are a prime example of why everyone thinks the internet is full of idiots. You are a liar, a cad, a scoundrel, and probably an exact clone of Hitler, without Hitler's intelligence or charisma. You have broken the rules of this site, you have broken several laws, and you persist on returning.

Allow me to be quite, quite clear. Get lost. Go away. Shoo. Shalom. Shalam. Sampai Nanti, bodoh. Sayonara. Beunos Noches. Good day to you. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Please, please, please. Just soak your hand in water and punch it into the monitor. It can only help you.

yea whoo!!


i may be an idiot but no one kicks me out i will leave in due time but by deleteing my nations it is going to keep me here longer and trust me i wont give up

Correction on what Roania said : pour some salt into some water, stick your hand in it, then punch the monitor.


water doesn't conduct on its own, but ionic compounds (such as salt) in an aqueous solution conduct quite well.

whoo!!

going on 45 minutes

Correction on what Roania said : pour some salt into some water, stick your hand in it, then punch the monitor.


water doesn't conduct on its own, but ionic compounds (such as salt) in an aqueous solution conduct quite well.

Learn something new every day. However, that didn't detract from the beauty of my insult, thank you very much.

So Email admin@nationstates.net. That's the direct line to the top if you think that we as mods are being unfair. If you don't want to do that, then listen to me again.


what i did is not againest the law smart guy people think i hacked into the site tell u the truth i cant hack to save my life
OK, if you want pedantry you'll get pedantry. You didn't "hack the site" (where "the site" means www.nationstates.net). What you did was that you created another site to get people's passwords for this site. It's slightly sloppy on the part of those who might say "you hacked the site" to say as much, but that's the long and the short of what you did.

As for this outrageous claim that what you did is not against the law, I've got news for you that just might make you sit up and take notice. There are at least two mods who have a working knowledge of the legal systems of the world, I am one and long-standing denizens of this site can probably take an educated guess as to who the other one is. Let me tell you right now and without any equivocation that you have broken the law.
At the very least, there is a case against you for the criminal offence of "false pretences". This is where you pretend to be something you are not (e.g. a police officer, a Vietnam veteran, the administrator of NationStates) in order to obtain benefits to which you are not entitled (e.g. being allowed to break road rules, veterans' compensation, passwords to private accounts on NationStates). It's been a while since I've heard of any prosecutions for this, but under Australian law you'd be looking at 5 years jail or upwards. Any other jurisdictions, probably about the same.
I am also reliably informed by experts on electronic law that a case could be mounted against you for what's known as "wire fraud". As you might guess from the word "fraud" in the title, this is a very serious offence indeed. You'd be looking at double-digit jail terms and/or very big fines for that one.

i didnt do anything like suicide by mods or flaming or any of that stuff i just took it.
That's exactly my point. Suicide by mod or flaming is absolutely nothing compared with what you did. What you did is exceedingly serious, more than likely illegal and has caused a considerable inconvenience to admin, mods, modlings and players. At worst, the victim of a flame will feel bad for a while. It's the same sort of difference in scal between me breaking into your house and stealing $10 and me breaking into your house, stealing all your valuables, setting fire to the house and then preventing the fire brigade from putting it out. Which one is more serious?

i wont do anything againest the rules or the law i just want to have fun and you mods can keep tabs on me if you want but i wont do anything i swear to u on everything that is holy i wont break the rules
You've had your chance long ago. From memory, you were originally deleted for multi-ing and griefing. The honourable thing to do then would have been to accept that punishment like a man, reassess your priorities in life and decide if there's more to it than irritating players in a free web-game.
Instead, you re-grouped, created the website in question and now you've got the hide to cry foul when we won't let you play again. The honourable thing to do now would be to leave of your own free will and bother people somewhere else.
If you decide to keep coming back, don't hold the admin and mods responsible for their actions. We will keep hunting you down. We will keep deleting you. We will refer this to your ISP. We will refer this to law enforcement authorities. Do I make myself clear?

first of all i didnt hack anything the players gave me there passwords
Let me tell you a story. Once upon a time there was an Email which got forwarded. It claimed to be from a major multi-national bank's e-banking division and told all the recipients to go to a particular site and enter their account details to "reactivate their accounts".
When the people in the town did this, they were amazed that instead of reactivating their accounts, their information was used by a skilful criminal to access their accounts and steal money from them.
Now, can you seriously say that this criminal can say "Oh, but they gave me their passwords, so you can't do anything about it"? Of course not. He tricked them out of the passwords, so he suffers the punishment. It doesn't matter if he did it that way or by shoving a gun in their faces and shouting "Gimme your passwords".
The same goes for you.

Actually, you should be thanking them for not seeking to have criminal charges lodged against you...
Exactly. Let me make this clear one more time. YOU ARE NOT THE VICTIM HERE. We have so far been significantly more magnanimous than I would be as an individual (in fact I'd rather not say what I would do as an individual since this is a family site). If you can't get your head around that, then I suggest you learn very quickly.

well u kno if i had not played this game for the last 6 months u probably would have done mcuh worse illegal stuff

You have already confessed in this thread to two Federal crimes and one State felony. Were I you, I would turn off my computer, remove the hard drive, and start destroying it with a blowtorch and a maul. The good news is that most juvenile halls and most adult prisons offer Remedial English classes; you'll at least get some help there....

last time i checked it has to exist for it to be copyrighted as i understand that nationstates 2 is only in the planning stage so it could not be copyrighted

P.S. I cant believe that lasted this long :twisted:
We're not talking about copyright law. If you want me to start on copyright law, just say the word. Suffice it to say that "NationStates" is already a protected name - or should already be one - and that you'd be accused of attempting to draw a link between your site and one to which it is not linked. Much the same as if I created a cola drink called "Cake-a-Cola" or a hamburger chain called "McDougalls".

We're talking fraud here. Much more serious. Much easier to prosecute. Much longer jail sentences. Much heavier fines.

fine i might be done today but i will be back trust me of that

JARROS will never die

fine i might be done today but i will be back trust me of that
As will I.

Get this into your head NOW. YOU WILL NOT WIN HERE. You haven't got a leg to stand on legally or morally. The only reason you haven't been deleted yet is because I need a mental punching bag.

last time i checked it has to exist for it to be copyrighted as i understand that nationstates 2 is only in the planning stage so it could not be copyrighted

P.S. I cant believe that lasted this long :twisted:
"NationStates" is already protected by worldwide copyright and NS2 is equally protected since it's an update and variation on the original.

With your fake NS2 site you violated both copyright and trademark laws violated the FEDERAL wire fraud act and using a computer in the commision of a felony is additional offence.
Consider yourself VERY lucky getting kicked off her for good is the only thing that happened to you as wire fraud is a minimum 3 year offense

fine i might be done today but i will be back trust me of that
I would not advise that.
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JARROS will never die
With my LAN down for a bit I began reflecting.

(I hope that this is OK Enodia)

There are four main types of evil people whom I can think of (off of the top of my head, when I should be asleep, and am feeling it):

The repentant- when they realize the consequences of their actions, and reflect on it, they truly repent and accept the consequences.

The unrepentent- commit absolutely despicable deeds, but at least have the courage to stick by their despicible actions.

The cowards- repent when they realize that they are beat, and try to wriggle out of punishment as much as possible, but learn not to commit those acts again if they feel that they risk getting caught.

The manipulative- attempt to wriggle out of any punishment, through feigned innocence, fabricated benevolant intentions, and false repentance. They repeat their actions again if they get another chance, concinced that they can get away with it, and if not they will attemot to make what they have done even worse.

Although you may only be the coward, it seems to me that you are indeed the manipulative.

last time i checked it has to exist for it to be copyrighted as i understand that nationstates 2 is only in the planning stage so it could not be copyrighted

P.S. I cant believe that lasted this long :twisted:
"NationStates" is already protected by worldwide copyright and NS2 is equally protected since it's an update and variation on the original.

With your fake NS2 site you violated both copyright and trademark laws violated the FEDERAL wire fraud act and using a computer in the commision of a felony is additional offence.
Consider yourself VERY lucky getting kicked off her for good is the only thing that happened to you as wire fraud is a minimum 3 year offense
Moreover, in some jurisdictions, using a computer in the commission of an offence (although it depends on the offence) also results in the confiscation of your computer and various strongly-worded court orders preventing you from coming within X distance of a computer.

Enodia, why don't you just report him the the authorities? Let them deal with him, the pathetic scumbag.

If anyone deserves to be prosecuted, it's this guy. Let me see... abuse of other players, breaking fraud legislation... the list goes on!

http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0SQAfAwcXBmnfdgB9qUe*QL8alKIO7Zab!2tdvNbXKUxunlX3UnKSAJbaHgIUAc5GVpN3lyaEG7jnuzczigzhONxIqxuoEYLzXQY t6zn4cvg8U0QJole76g/Darkness.jpg?dc=4675452035223746482

Were any nations from or through virginia? rhetorical only. no answer needed.

We will report him. Everyone's recommended as much on the mod forum. The catch is that Max (who's obviously got the final call on the matter from both a leadership and legal standpoint) seems to be non-communicado right about now. Probably something about that Bar-Joseph bloke's birthday...you know the one? Got into some movies and had a nice line in wooden crosses. :wink:

I have the strong suspicion that this is a kid with not a clue as to the pile of crap he's stepped in. Though it doesn't excuse him or justify his actions, it does give an interesting (IMHO) insight into his behavior. He's incapable of taking responsibility. We've seen that in innumerable attempts to wheedle and wriggle his way out of responsibility, and thus punishment.

Furthermore, he displays some kind of either masochistic or wool-headedly thick determination to "overcome" whatever punishments are thrown at him.

I think you should call his mommy and get him grounded. :roll:

(Though he deserves more than this, I think that this, psychologically, may have more of an impact as a deterrent.)

:shock: whoa. For sure, if I would ne this guy, I would hide in my basement and wait the armageddon...

There is a way of nailing this dude's hide to the wall, it involves finding the block of IP numbers he's currently in then finding out who owns that block then calling them and have them sort through the numbers to find the exact one that he's using. If he's on AOL they can can his account and put his home address on a block list that means forget about anymore AOL owned access from that address.

Actually, it's not even that hard. They have his IP address, and the time he was using that particular address. Report the address and time used to the ISP, and they can run a check on their servers to confirm, and user databases to locate. Pretty simple, actually.

Let me explain something very clearly to Jarros.

You have been told not to return to this site by the authorities on this site. This could be compared to the security in a building asking you not to return. Do you know what happens the next time that you enter that building? You get arrested for trespass. Now, I'm not one of the moderators with legal background, but I am quite sure that if you return to this site after being asked not to, that you will be commiting computer tresspass.

To be blunt, it really does not sound like you have any idea the sh*t that have gotten yourself into, and as Enodia said, you should be very happy that you are meeting me in an official capacity, as opposed to personal.

And finally, you think that we should be thanking you?! That has to be one of the stupidest things that I have heard in my life, and is, to cut to the quick, bullshit. Hackers and criminals almost never get hired, and almost always get jail time, and never get thank you.

I do not want to see hair nor hide of you around here again, and I will be watching.


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I appologize to all readers for my language, but I feel that this deserves it.

O_O I've never seen either Enodia or Salusa threaten a player with bodily harm before...

:shock:

::backs away slowly::

This is amusing...

Watch the mods blow up! S'funny!

I'd like to note that the only reason I havent thrown in my little spiel on this previously is because I was working 12hr shifts all of last week.


JARROS: You have already been warned by Enodia and SalusaSecondus. To further push your luck by returning to this site is not advisable. Believe me when I say that every Mod is watching. You have been ordered by the site owner's representatives to not return. Should you do so, we will hunt you down, delete your nation, and inform your ISP along with the proper authorities. We are watching, and you will not get away with anything.

Heh. You're both nutcases, Enodia, SS.

Now, if I had him... I would let my sadistic temper go wild. Then I would find some nice way to put him through all the agony of death, while still being alive.

I'd make him watch... the Teletubbies!

I'd make him watch... the Teletubbies!
*gasp*
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Heh. You're both nutcases, Enodia, SS.

Now, if I had him... I would let my sadistic temper go wild. Then I would find some nice way to put him through all the agony of death, while still being alive.

I'd make him watch... the Teletubbies!

followed by a couple hours of 'Barney' the purple annoyasaur :evil:

Heh. You're both nutcases, Enodia, SS.

Now, if I had him... I would let my sadistic temper go wild. Then I would find some nice way to put him through all the agony of death, while still being alive.

I'd make him watch... the Teletubbies!

followed by a couple hours of 'Barney' the purple annoyasaur :evil:
*double gasp*
I would not wish that fate upon my worst enemy.
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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((A cookie for the man who can explain my sig))

On the subject of jokers that have severly worn out their welcome, I haven't seen any notices of the 'Count' reappearing lately, someone finally manage to nail his coffin lid down?

You know, there's something about you guys that really makes me see the funny side of all of this. I can be as furious as I want and (and I'm not making this up) have severely rage-induced fantasies of flying over Stateside and pounding this guy back into the Stone Age, but then I read these crazy ideas of punishing him by making him watch Teletubbies. Thanks everyone for being slightly more detached than I might've been.

Award for the most unintentionally funny post, though:
With my LAN down for a bit I began reflecting.

(I hope that this is OK Enodia)

The instant I read that I thought, "hmmm...permission to reflect. I've never been asked for that before".

Title 18, United States Code - Crimes and Criminal Procedure (http://www.access.gpo.gov/uscode/title18/title18.html)

I am looking.

first of all i did not create this nation to spite anyone i created it so i can say this then i will leave. First i am sorry for any thing i did or any trouble i caused i dont kno what i was thinking as of right now i will following in the mods wishes and leave the game forever you wont see me back believe me that i am sorry and i will leave

P.S. i am most sorry to enodia sorry

Here is where it ends

You again?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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((A cookie for the man who can explain my sig))

A cookie for anyone who can read that sig.

Here is where it ends

Good. Then you won't be needing this nation.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
NationStates Game Moderator

first of all i did not create this nation to spite anyone i created it so i can say this then i will leave. First i am sorry for any thing i did or any trouble i caused i dont kno what i was thinking as of right now i will following in the mods wishes and leave the game forever you wont see me back believe me that i am sorry and i will leave

P.S. i am most sorry to enodia sorry
So you still came back... :roll:

JARROS will never die

I think he might. He's into 5 pages without punctuation now. If he talks that way he's going to run out of breath soon and keel over :D

You again?

Confused by this one now...

A JARROS puppet?

You again?

Confused by this one now...

A JARROS puppet?
I don't believe so, since punctuation was used where it hasn't normally been. My guess is that this post was by a player who was deleted for some other reason.

# 4 hours ago: The Democratic States of Fisz II ceased to exist.
# 5 hours ago: The Wielka Rzeczpospospolita of Free Poland ceased to exist.
# 5 hours ago: The SouthPOLE in the oven lovers of Towarzysz Gomulka ceased to exist.
# 5 hours ago: The Republic of White-Eagle ceased to exist.


From the region of Poland. UN multies, perhaps?

# 4 hours ago: The Democratic States of Fisz II ceased to exist.
# 5 hours ago: The Wielka Rzeczpospospolita of Free Poland ceased to exist.
# 5 hours ago: The SouthPOLE in the oven lovers of Towarzysz Gomulka ceased to exist.
# 5 hours ago: The Republic of White-Eagle ceased to exist.


From the region of Poland. UN multies, perhaps?
Mebbe. There've been some complaints coming out of that region about the player formerly known as Fisz, so it might just be a "get out and stay out" thing rather than multis.

Definitely "get out and stay out." Now he's spamming with crazy stuff.

--Scolo

Well, at least the "get out" worked. Clearly "stay out" takes a bit longer to sink in.

One word - wow :shock:

This has to be the first time that I've seen so many mods come together to curb stomp a guy. Not to say s/he didn't deserve it, just suprising that everyone joined in. Have to say it was well earned though - I concur with the decision, like it matters what I think ^_~

That's all I have to say about that.

Not to take this monkey's side, and not like anyone actually cares about what I say, but I would advice everyone, especially mods, not to threaten this jamoke with physical harm. All it will do is give him recourse if this thing ever does hit a court. It's not good, as representatives of the game, to say those things.

Good point. Good point.

Usually when someone commits fraud to steal NationStates accounts, they know they're doing bad. This guy actually didn't seem to recognize that, at least at first.

This isn't the first time someone has tried a stunt like this. But it is up there with the most serious offenses committed against the site. It attacks the integrity of the NationStates site and is, of course, illegal in at least two different ways.

We have a process for dealing with this kind of thing, which gets progressively more painful for the person on the wrong end the longer he tries to fight it. Hopefully this incident is over now, and no further steps will be necessary.

]We have a process for dealing with this kind of thing, which gets progressively more painful for the person on the wrong end the longer he tries to fight it. Hopefully this incident is over now, and no further steps will be necessary.

Just curious - but does that include informing the police?

]We have a process for dealing with this kind of thing, which gets progressively more painful for the person on the wrong end the longer he tries to fight it. Hopefully this incident is over now, and no further steps will be necessary.

Just curious - but does that include informing the police?

More likely to be his ISP. They're the ones supposed to deal with it.

More likely to be his ISP. They're the ones supposed to deal with it.

Oh, okay. But it could go to the police, right?

More likely to be his ISP. They're the ones supposed to deal with it.

Oh, okay. But it could go to the police, right?

I'm pretty sure it would come under the Computer Misuse Act.

Any thing is possible.

Perhaps we should just let this go now in hopes that the situation doesn't keep going.

Thank You!

Stephanie
Game Moderator

all u mods out there SUCK!!! you keep deleting my nations for no reasons. you should stop abusing ur power, and let us have fun playing the game. only delete ppl when they actually do sumtin wrong. you shouldnt abuse ur power and just delete ppl whenever sum1 tells u to. :!:

all u mods out there SUCK!!! you keep deleting my nations for no reasons. you should stop abusing ur power, and let us have fun playing the game. only delete ppl when they actually do sumtin wrong. you shouldnt abuse ur power and just delete ppl whenever sum1 tells u to. :!: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Puh-LEASE.

all u mods out there SUCK!!! you keep deleting my nations for no reasons. you should stop abusing ur power, and let us have fun playing the game. only delete ppl when they actually do sumtin wrong. you shouldnt abuse ur power and just delete ppl whenever sum1 tells u to. :!:

"no reasons"

Heh. Good one.

Heh...finger musta slipped...

]All you mods out there suck! You keep deleting my nations for no reason. You should stop abusing your power, and let us have fun playing the game. Only delete people when they actually do something wrong. You shouldn't abuse your power and just delete people whenever someone tells you to.

Perhaps stealing people's NS passwords and impersonating NS constitutes something wrong? IMHO, and in the opinion of the law, it does.

Guy Noir
Premier of the Gunchenjuris

Heh...finger musta slipped...

We forgive this terrible accident :twisted:

What you did was hacking. Hacking is against the law. You have broken the law.
I explore and modify the software on my computer. I hack. JARROS used social engineering to break into people's accounts. He hacked. Unfortunately the word has two very different meanings. I am not surprised to learn that his actions are illegal, they are also immoral and almost certainly against his ISP's terms of service.

Well, if we are arguing technicalities. He isn't hacking, he's cracking.

I hack, he cracks.

Well, if we are arguing technicalities. He isn't hacking, he's cracking.

I hack, he cracks.

1337 h4><0r eh Sal?

Noted. But still, it's a little detail. Come on now...

Well, if we are arguing technicalities. He isn't hacking, he's cracking.

I hack, he cracks.

1337 h4><0r eh Sal?

No, 'hacking' as such is a misinterpretation by the media.

A person who hacks modifies software to make it either better or add/remove functionality. For example, [violet] has hacked this forum to make it work faster.

A person who cracks breaks through security barriers in order to access information on other machines. Something Salusa said earlier tweaked with me because although it could in some circumstance be true, it might not always be. He said that crackers can never gat a job in the IT industry. If they have been convicted, then yes, but most firms prefer their security people to have some experience in how it works - it's basically a "Well, I know how it's done, so I know how to stop it" kind of arrangement.

Merry Christmas to all Mods and people who've posted in this topic. I have just come accross it and i must say it makes quite amusing reading. Glad to see that furball wont be on here again, he sounds bad. Flamming, godmodding etc, they are one thing. But to HACK/ (crack) into a system....well that is something else.

Award for the most unintentionally funny post, though:
With my LAN down for a bit I began reflecting.

(I hope that this is OK Enodia)

The instant I read that I thought, "hmmm...permission to reflect. I've never been asked for that before".
Good point. I tend to make almost as many gaffes as a politician. :oops:

Peng-Pau, that is true, however, it is a myth that you can get a job with a company by cracking their network.

Peng-Pau, that is true, however, it is a myth that you can get a job with a company by cracking their network.

Hehehe, comment from experience? :P

Peng-Pau, that is true, however, it is a myth that you can get a job with a company by cracking their network.

Hehehe, comment from experience? :P
Funny, that was exactly what I had been thinking. . . :twisted:

No, not a comment from experience. Comment from following the news.

No, not a comment from experience. Comment from following the news.

Yeah right... :wink:

This thread is still alive? Whoa :shock: