NationStates Jolt Archive

OOC: Intergalactic Hell hasn't been active at all so I'm waiting a day and then Im just RP'ing a take over...

Also, appendix comming soon...

IC:

Imperial Directive No. 5

High Staff and Imperial Staff have released Heeresgruppe C and Luftflotte III to aid Heresgruppe B on the upcoming attack on Madrid.

Heeresgruppe C - General- feldmarchall von Leeb

1st Heresarmee
>>>5 Heerkorps with 20 Infantry Divisions
>>>2 Artilleriekorps with 10 Artillery Divisions
2nd Heresarmee
>>>5 Heerkorps with 20 Infantry Divisions
>>>2 Artilleriekorps with 10 Artillery Divisions
3rd Heresarmee
>>>5 Heerkorps with 20 Infantry Divisions
>>>2 Artilleriekorps with 10 Artillery Divisions
4th Heresarmee
>>>5 Heerkorps with 20 Infantry Divisions
>>>2 Artilleriekorps with 10 Artillery Divisions
5th Panzergruppe
>>>2 Panzerkorp with 6 Panzer Divisions
>>>5 Panzerheerkorp with 20 PzH Divisions
>>>2 Assaultkorps with 6 Assault Divisions
6th Panzergruppe
>>>2 Panzerkorp with 6 Panzer Divisions
>>>5 Panzerheerkorp with 20 PzH Divisions
>>>2 Assaultkorps with 6 Assault Divisions



Luftflotte III
70 Fighter Squadrons; 2,100 SS-102's
50 DB Squadrons; 2,500 SS-101's
10 Bomber Squadrons; 500 B-52's

[signed]Emperor Finegold III


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Imperial Directive No. 6

Operation Venus

Operation Venus is the attack on Madrid. In two days the 40,000 artillery guns will open fire on the front while the two panzergruppe and supporting armies tear into the rear and envelope Madrid in a double pincer, thereby ending all resistance.

The empire wishes you luck!

Heeresgruppes and Luftflottes to participate:

1.Heeresgruppe B
2.Heeresgruppe C

1.Luftflotee III

Luftflotte I and Luftflotte II will join the battle if the battle of the Gibraltar end and with a good conclusion... if not, once the empire gains in wealth we will send over a Luftflotte IV.

The two Heeresgruppe are not to stop until Madrid has been captured and they reach the Pyrenees taking up position from the Bay of Biscay to the edge of the territory owned by Sword and Shield.

[signed]Emperor Finegold III


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Appendixes....

Appendix A- If you want to know Macabean technology go here www24.brinkster.com/macabeanarms

Appendix B-

Heer Division; 20,000 men
Artillery Division; 1,000 guns, 3,125 men
>>>1st Brigade : 250 300mm Howitzers
>>>2nd Brigade : 250 350mm Howitzers
>>>3rd Brigade : 250 350mm Howitzers
>>>4th Brigade : 250 400mm Field Artillery
Panzer Division; 625 tanks, 3,125 men
>>>1st Brigade : 125 Stug III Ausf. B SAM's
>>>2nd Brigade : 125 Pz. VIII Nebuchadnezzar's
>>>3rd Brigade : 125 Pz. VII "Cougars"
>>>4th Brigade : 125 Pz. IV "King Lions"
>>>5th Brigade: 125 Jagdtigers
Assault Division; 500 Guns; 2,250 men
>>>1st Brigade : 125 155mm Crusaders
>>>2nd Brigade : 125 Elefants 300mm
>>>3rd Brigade : 125 Ferdinands
>>>4th Brigade : 125 Panzerwerfers
Panzerheerl; 20,000 men

Fighter Squadron; 30 Fighters
DB Squadron; 50 DB's
Bomber Squadron; 50 bombers

Appendix C-

Addendum to Imperial Directive No.1

High Command and Imperial Staff has come to the conclusion that current forces are not sufficient for a prolonged war in Europe. Thus we have released Heeresgruppe B.

Heeregruppe B- General-feldmarchall Fedor von Bock
-4th Heeresarmee
>>>5 Hereeskorps with 20 Infantry divisions
>>>3 Artilleriekorps with 15 artillery divisions
-5th Heeresarmee
>>>7 Hereeskorps with 28 Infantry divisions
>>>6 Artilleriekorps with 30 artillery divisions
-3rd Panzergruppe
>>>3 Panzerkorps with 9 Panzer Divisions
>>>5 Assaultkorps with 15 assault divisions
>>>4 Panzerheerkorps with 20 PZH divisions

Luftflotte II-General der Luftwaffe Adolf Galland
>>>70 Fighter Squadrons, 2,100 fighters
>>>10 DB Squadrons, 500 DB's

An additional 50 million tons of food and 11 million gallons of petrol will be sent monthly.

That morning the guns opened up with a frightful boom. 40,000 guns pounded on a 300km front, churning up earth and men alike. It was frightful and from afar missiles were pouring into rear defenses.

Then an hour after it stopped as suddently as it began and the two heeresgruppes, over 5 million in men, and 12,000 in armor, began to wash over the border in a massive pincer attack to trap Madrid in a kessel.

It was the largest invasion yet of the Wermacht in WWIX and it was not expected to fail.

The Allied States wish to re-affirm to it's ally, The Macabees, that we do intend to support them militarily in most cases. The arrival of the II Corps from our African Supply route, has freed up a force for active offensive duty on the Continent.

The Allied States, having more access to the flanks of IGH, intend to launch an attack that will coincide with The Macabees attack. The forces and their directives are as follows

II Corps (2 Infantry Divisions, 1 Armored Division, 2 Mechanized Inf. Division, 1 Motorized Recon Battalion)
Objectives - Force the flanks of IGH in Northern Spain to prevent reinforcement of Southern Spain. Advance from Lleida onto Huesca to link up with the XIII Mountain Combat Div. advancing from Tarbes in the city of Huesca. The combined forces then move on to Navarra and make contact with flank elements of the XXVII Corps that should have secured Zaragoza by now and is moving towards La Rioja. The Two Corps and supporting Division will then make a pincer attack on Bilboa with the intent of capturing the city and all forces there. After Bilboa is secure, whatever forces are available (At least three Division from the combined force is preferable) are to move West to secure Burgos then await further orders.

XXVII Corps (1 Motorized Division (not participating in attack), 2 Mechanized Infantry Divisions, 2 Infantry Divisions (only one will participate in attack), 1 Armored Brigade)
Objectives - Move from Tarragona Northwards, at least 2 brigades should make a feint attack towards Teruel to make it appear a supporting move with the Macabees push towards Madrid. The main force of the XXVII then will move forward after the Air attacks are finished, on to Zaragoza. The encirclement of Zaragoza is unneeded, instead only pushing the IGH forces out of the city is needed. From there push the IGH forces onto La Rioja and make contact with the flank forces of the II Corps. Place at least one division on your western flank while the rest of the Division moves to encircle Bilboa from the west while the II Corps surrounds the east. Naval Forces from Atlantic Command will be dispatched to bombard the city and prevent escape. Prime objectives if this stage is the capture of the city and all defenders (preferable)

4th Air Force
1 Wing of F-22 Raptors (Air Superiority)
2 Wings of TB-26 Typhoon II's (Tactical Bombers)
1 Wing of TBD-25 Helldiver II's (Dive Bombers)
1 Wing of F-15E's (Air superiority)
1 Squadron of B-52 Stratofortresses (Strategic Bombers)
Objective - With the commencement of the Macabean Artillery barrage, and a slightly smaller one from our own lines, begin striking at targets along the lines of advancement of the 2nd Army (The two Corps, there are two other Corps in this Army, but they will not be participating in this attack), the Typhoon II's are instructed to bombard forward IGH defensive positions, while the TBD's with the F-22's in escort and strike roles, deny the use of airfields in and around Navarra and Zaragoza to IGH planes. After the ground forces begin moving forward, the Typhoon II's are instructed to attack any areas where IGH forces may be massing for a counterattack, in coordination with the Raptors and TBD's. The Strategic Bombers are to stay bombard the rear areas of IGH in Bilboa to soften it up.

Task Force 285
1 Des Moines class Heavy Cruiser
1 King I class Battleship
1 Ticonderoga class Cruiser (w/AEGIS)
2 Arleigh Burke class Destroyers
1 Spruance class Destroyer
2 Gearing class (Modernized) Destroyers
1 Wasp class LHD
Objective - Once Navarra is secure, the force is to move from it's naval base in England with one brigade of Marines attached, and blockade Bilboa harbor, should an attack on the city be needed, provide naval artillery support, and possibly utilize the Marine Brigade

The two panzergruppe made awsome headway with 3,000 tanks, 3,000 assault self propelled assault guns and 400,000 armoured infantry. In their wake advanced the slower heer infantry sweeping up enemies left behind to die by the panzers.

They were only 20km from Madrid and soon enough the city would be linked into a kessel, a cauldron, a massive pocket of enemy troops...


OOC: I'm going to wait for a reply with resistance until tomorrow or the day after.... if I dont receive one im taking him for inactive and just claiming to annex it with small casualties.

/ooc how much artillery do you have????

Message to Sword and Shield high command:

The exact route of our panzergruppe will be outlined here and is based around your military plans.

Panzergruppe III of Heeresgruppe B will rip open a breach using the Torrenjoncillo-Alba de Tormes highway, allowing a similar breach to the east by Panzergruppe V of Heresgruppe C which is using the Navahermosa-Segovia highway and then to Siguenza to the east, about 150km. Panzergruppe VI of Heeresgruppe C will use the Cuenca-Brihuega highway to link up with Panzergruppe V at Siguenza, thus creating the kessel.

The heerearmee will work to create the "floor" thereby sealing the pocket and ensuring our final success.

In turn, Panzergruppe III of Heeresgruppe B, will attack from Abrantes (Portugal) to Miranda do Duoro (Portugal), where upon it will have a 24 hour halt awaiting for its two supporting heerarmees to catch up. Then all three formations will head out northeast towards Leon where upon most of Spain northwest of Madrid will be secured, leaving only the Bilbao-Pamplona region to Intergallactic Hell, which of course is prime area for their dimise.

We hope these plans to interfere with yours.

[signed]Emperor Finegold III, General-feldmarchall von Leeb, General-feldmarchall von Bock

/ooc how much artillery do you have????

40,000 guns... which is nowhere near what the Soviets used against Berlin in 1945, which added up to 60,000 guns ranging from the Seelow Heights to the River Spree, a much smaller area than my border with Intergallactic Hell.

ooc//
but arnt you using 30k of that on CCC?

OOC: My original plan was actually an attack on Pamplona/Navarra intended on securing Bilboa and the Pyrenees, if this would work better for you we can still repositions our Corps for a Northern attack, we could also utilize a division we have in Tarbes, France to attack Huesca if we used this plan.

ooc// i have 202k total, everywhere, most of which wont move... (its kinda unfair in my mind to outnumber someone in every aspect of their army)

OOC: I feel so puny, I have only around 28K deployed in this world, however I make up for it with my Navy, but still, I should ship more. But it takes so long to lug them across Algeria from Western Sahara, oy vey

OOC: My original plan was actually an attack on Pamplona/Navarra intended on securing Bilboa and the Pyrenees, if this would work better for you we can still repositions our Corps for a Northern attack, we could also utilize a division we have in Tarbes, France to attack Huesca if we used this plan.

This would probably be best, since an attack north would also effectively cut off IH's retreat space which he can use to regroup.

to be fair, i am 50 weeks old... with a frightening economy (been like that since march/feburary)

OOC: My original plan was actually an attack on Pamplona/Navarra intended on securing Bilboa and the Pyrenees, if this would work better for you we can still repositions our Corps for a Northern attack, we could also utilize a division we have in Tarbes, France to attack Huesca if we used this plan.

This would probably be best, since an attack north would also effectively cut off IH's retreat space which he can use to regroup.

Changes being ammended

ooc// i have 202k total, everywhere, most of which wont move... (its kinda unfair in my mind to outnumber someone in every aspect of their army)

OOC: 202k is way more than my 75k deploying at two fronts, which is effectively all I have, since my reserves come from additional heeresgruppe being sent to Valencia and other ports.

I view artillery as one of the most importan aspects of any campaign, rivaled only by the panzergruppes and assaultkorps...I am a very blitzkrieg oriented person.

EDIT: Also the Soviets were able to levie about 150,000 guns altogether in the ostfront by 1945 while the western allies brought up, I estimate, some 100,000 ranging from Italy to the Ardennes.

I also lack a very dominating naval strength giving me the right to fortify other areas, such as artillery and panzers.

ok... i wasnt sure if you were turning some of the guns off CCC...

ok... i wasnt sure if you were turning some of the guns off CCC...

OOC: Ohh, sorry for that boring lecture then... the answer would be no.

OOC: Changes made, including the addition of a Naval group from my base on Exetonias territory

OOC: Changes made, including the addition of a Naval group from my base on Exetonias territory


OOC: Confirmed.... lead commanders have been told of the moves in order to keep friendly fire down, in case of a mixup.

OOC: He did come by once but never looked at the thread so Im taking him as inactive....

IC:

Panzergruppe V, with Panzergruppe III, made their way north with Panzergruppe V cutting east from Segovia, and Panzergruppe III punching through to Ceullar, 100km north of Segovia, in order to protect the rear of Panzergruppe V.

Panzergruppe VI in the east broke through enemy resistance, with only 3 knocked out tanks and 800 dead, and reached Siguenza, the rondevouz point.

At 1800 hours tha day Panzergruppe V and Panzergruppe VI linked up finally, creating the kessel around Madrid. Panzergruppe III helped secure the rear areas.

In Portugal, Panzergruppe IV had reached Miranda do Duoro and had waited for the rest of the infantry. Then it hit towards Leon cutting up enemy positions in the process. This was one of the most successful operations of the war.

With the African Corps now under perilous attack, the II Corps, after taking and securing the region of Navarra and linking with the XXVII Corps, is ordered to withdraw back to Barcelona for a deployment to Algeria.

The Mountain Division will remain in place to continue the advance, with reinforcement of one division from the XXVII Corps. The rest of the XXVII Corps, reinforced by the divisions it left in Barcelona, is fanning out to continue the encirclement of Bilboa, the last objective for the Allied Army.

OOC: Alright I've given IH 2 days to respond and he hasn't...

IC:

The Panzergruppes moved to seal the fate of Madrid by breaking through two loose positions north of the capital. All resistance immediately shattered as the 1,500 tanks and in their wake 1,200,000 armored infantry flooded the kessel destroying everything and everyone in their path.

By 2300 hours Madrid had been reached and the final battle was more of a massacre as Macabean units merely slaughtered troops still fighting. By 0300 the next morning Madrid had be secured and the kessel destroyed.

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Table of Casualties:
Macabean
Dead: 4,000
Wounded: 28,000
MIA: 198

Intergallactic Hell
Dead: ca. 27,000
Wounded: unknown
MIA: unknown
Prisoners: ca. 200,000

OOC: The reason I RP his losses is because he's inactive so don't yell at me...

IC:

With the big break the Macabean war machine raced northwards crushing everything west and east of Leon and finally taking Leon by 1800 hours. It was a chain reaction...a deadly chain reaction but the next day the Pyrenees(sp?) had been reached.

OOC: I shall follow suit

IC:

With the fall of Madrid, the Bilboa garrison, reinforced with the retreating armies from Navarra and La Rioja, was the last substantial force that could counter the Macabean-Allied Advance. The arrival of the Naval Squadron from England sealed the fate of the cities defenders, under constand bombardment and an impending amphibious assault, they made one last sortie. The Naval forces in the city sortied out and matched arms with the Allied Navy, suffering some losses and damage but destroying the IGH fleet.

The defenders of the city simaltenously launched a land counterattack, and even succeeded in breaking the line between the XIII Mountain Divisions and 23rd Mechanized until the salient was forced back in by arriving Allied Air Forces and Naval Bombardment.

With the battle lost, the commander of Bilboa decided he would hold out until help from Madrid arrived. But intercepted communications and rumor told that Madrid had fallen, and any forces that remained were being pushed beyond the Pyrenees or towards Coruna. The Commander, realizing all he could hoppe for was starvation, surrendered the city and it's garrison to Major General Fyrein two days following the battle, marking the tentative end of the Iberian War.

Allied Losses
Dead - 1,650
Wounded - 3,142
Captured - 1,200 (Returned)
MIA - 546

Naval Losses
1 Arleigh Burke class Destroyer (Sunk)
1 Spruance class Destroyer (sunk)
1 Des Moines class Heavy Cruiser (Damaged)
1 King I class Battleship (Heavily Damaged, towed back to port for scrapping)
1 Gearing class Destroyer (Sunk)

IGH Losses
Dead - Unknown, estimated 2,000-3,000
Wounded - Unknown
Captured - 100,000 (I'm guessing, since I don't know his forced in the area)
MIA - Unknown

For protection against future attacks Valencia has decided to spend billions upon billions of dollars on a full line of concrete artillery foritifications on the coast stretching from the Pyrenees to the Gibraltar.

Each bunker will hold 1 massive 400mm gun and a series of co-axial machine guns to spray the beaches/coast of any land units. Also an 122mm AT gun will be installed on each bunker.

Yes, the fortifications are massive but imperative for the safekeeping of the motherland. Total cost figures are not known but we will spend anything on it. A total of 500,000 men will be mobilized to man the span of fortifications and a reserve Panzergruppe, named Panzergruppe Espana as well as two reserve Heeresarmees, all under the control of General-feldmarchall Model, will be able to counter attack at any given point in the northern half in a time frame of up to 12 hours while the in the south the Panzergruppe in the Gibraltar will be able to respond.

posting this here in case you don't see it in SAVX's thread.

OOC: ok, here's the thing. I've been preparing a huge force to take to Australia, going by the time scale of 1 RL day = 1 NS week (which I thought was pretty much the norm here). I haven't paid close attention to everyone else's threads, so when I saw Macabees on the map have all of Australia and NZ in less than one RL day, it just doesn't make sense to me. My force was currently enroute (posted to go somewhere else, but that might change, as they are currently by Sri Lanka/Indian Ocean area) with a significantly shorter route, yet Macabees gets there first and conquers 2 nations in less than 1 RL day?? Sorry, but that just doesn't make sense to me as how that could happen. That's way to big of an area to conquer so fast. If you want to talk about it on AIM or something, contact me @ bjgmantz on AOL. Or I guess we can talk here, too. But I still think that Macabees is wrong on RPing that so fast.

Double Post from Kisnesian Thread:
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Kisnesian strategists struggled with the decision of whether to take out Macabeean radar, or to leave it intact. If they destroyed the national radar system, they could attack suddenly at will. But the the Macabees would know an attack was coming.

For this reason, the chain of command decided on a risky strategy - to launch Kisnesia's fleet bearing 1 million men, or almost 25% of its fighting force, along with 10,000 tanks and 2,500 MLRSs and 8 carrier groups before destroying the radar. Spies in the nation, while not able to penetrate the millitary's top ranks so far, have been able to determine the distance their radar could see, and after upping that estimate by 20%, have devised a plan.

OOC: Please note that the map has an incorrect location for the Azores. They are off of the coast of Portugal, not Africa. Therefore, sneaking around to the North side of Spain is fairly easy.
http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/europe/azoresne.gif

Just before the ships were to enter Spanish radar distance, 300 Bomber craft and 1500 escort fighers, along with 500 cruise missiles (no, no special warheads, just aimed at radar stations and coastal batteries) were launched. The ships were headed for the city of Gijón ( http://www.spainexchange.com/map_of_spain.php ) , and now there was no turning back.

The fighers, bombers, and missiles were launched in two equal groups: one towards the Western coast, and one towards the Northern coast. The hope was that Macabeean forces would remain divided between these two locations and not concentrate in the North.

The invasion by sea would start soon...
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OOC: We don't ICly know about the walls yet, but should be able to get through them with some heavy-duty cruise missiles. Good thing I just recently stocked up on those...

OOC: *snip&paste from other thread* Walls? What walls? Boom-boom!

Oh let thine ears consider well the source of my complaint... out of the deeps have I come.

Leviathan.

From the cold depths of the Atlantic, north of the Iberian peninsula, the menace rose again. Following shortly on the heels of the Kisnesian cruise missiles (minutes after the volley arrived), 300 high penetration supersonic cruise missiles struck, with 700 pound high explosive warheads. (OOC: about 60 of these are defaulted to home in on active ground radar pings.)

With their penetrative capabilities (19' of concrete pre-detonation), the missiles are expected to adequately supplement the Kisnesian strikes, demolishing fortifications and radar installations in the Kisnesian strike zone.

Neatly painted on the finless tails of some of the missiles arriving from the third and northernmost submarine, a small Exetonian flag...

OOC: I was aware of that although I never brought it up.. you're put as the Madeira Islands (also owned by Portugal)..and as the Canary Islands (owned by Spain).

IC:

Back at Radar Command Vasca the pings of the radar began to go off. Private Garcia ran to his superior and shouted, "Large concentration of enemy forces heading straight at radar colonies off the coast of northern and western Spain, SIR!".

His superior immediately informed the high command which ordered Luftflotte IV, based on Toledo to suit up and begin to fly counter attacks. The 2,100 SS-102's (very well constructed air superiority) of Luftflotte IV immediately headed towards the western threat looking for a fight. The north would be defended by the numerous SAM and Patriot missiles sights.


OOC: I'm waiting for your fly over so dont post you bombing yet..just reaching over the coastal line... I want to get this in depth.. I believe we can pull off a very well done RP!

A sergeant looked out his machine gun slot in one of the rear bunkers creating the second line of the wall. As he stared out a missile appeared in the horizon and he dialed to his commander... but it was too late...the cruise missiles slammed into the concrete bunker going through almost 18 feet of its concrete/steel frame (the bunkers are 30' deep; its built after my macabean line which I have some thread around the forums somewhere). But the thick walls werent enough for the sergeant as ambers pierces his eyes and he began to yell and scream. A young private saw him and .... shot him...

After the deadly attack Macabean military inspector went around the bomb sites. 32 of the minor radar sites dotting the landscape were complete destroyed, while only 3 of the main bunkers were annihalated. About 130 others received major damage, repairable in about four days while another 28 received very minor damage. Thank God for Macabean engineering...

As the crews looked at the missiles they found the Exetonian flag on one of the fins of the missiles. High Command saw it 2 hours after and began planning for a landing they thought would be committed by joint Exetonian and Keynesian troops. It had to be done with Keynesia since spies had reported small proof of them wanting to invade. Thus Panzergruppe Southern Spain (based in southern Portugal) was to be moved up to the center and to hit the enemy in the flank if he got through the coastal walls.

OOC: I'm waiting for your fly over so dont post you bombing yet..just reaching over the coastal line... I want to get this in depth.. I believe we can pull off a very well done RP!

Agreed.

OOC: btw, it's not a fin, but it would be a curved section of the tail. Snake is a finless missile :D Glad to see the idle sub crew disciplinary duty issued to some misbehaving pranksters had some impact.

Atlantic Fleet Command:

"See if we can't get a line on the operations as they go down from Kisnesia from their command center. Leviathan... may be a bit more effective if we can tell what they are up to straight from the horse's mouth."

The following 10 minutes were met with an imperial speech to the troops, passing orders...:

Today we will be met by the hardest acts of courage man has ever endevoured. You, those men manning the fortifications, will have to endure a massive seaborne assault of both man and material. Brace yourselves and do no let yourselves be taken alive. As Macabees I EXPECT YOU TO ACT LIKE MACABEES... you fight to the death and when fresh troops destroy the enemy we expect to see each and everyone of you with bodies of the enemy sorrounding yours!

*The V Corps arrived in Barcelona with much fanfare, the lines of soldiers and vehicles marching down the streets to the National Anthem (It's "La Marsailles" with different words). They were the newest Corps to arrive, shipped straight from the Allied homeland now with the Straits of Gibraltar open again. Along with the XI Corps they marked the newest Corps to arrive in theatre, of course, not many expected the 2nd Army to see much action for awhile*

*But much was stirring, according to their allies, The Macabees, the Iberian was under assault, a massive amphibious and Naval force heading for the peninsula. Also more disturbing, that an ally may have betrayed them. The Macabees was preparing for the assault, their Army on the Peninsula strong, and their Air Force numerous. Their Navy was outnumbered, however that could be an advantage being the defender.*

*Much was debated in Philadelphia over what to do, Africa could still be reinforced, and many felt an armistice with Kisnesia would be better, let The Macabees fight by himself, such was the feeling in the Allied Homeland these days. But the President would have none of it, he stood his ground. "Ladies and Gentlemen, it takes a few hours to build a good rifle, a few days for a good tank, 3 years to build a ship, but it takes 300 years to build a reputation, we must not let our Allies down." That was a quote from his speech to the Senate, which decided ultimately to accept the Military's plans, large Naval forces would be sent from the interdiction of Fearful supplies and attacking Armacor, and sent into the Atlantic.*

*This would of course take time, but they were confident the Macabees would hold his own on the sea while the Allied Navy mustered it's strength. There was no doubt that the Macabean Army would hold it's own, but that didn't mean the Allied Army would just sit back. The V Corps, the XXVII Corps, and the XI Corps would be sent to the landing areas as soon as they were identified, and of course the III Air Force, the most advanced in the Allied Air Force, would aid the Macabean Air Forces in maintaining control over the skies.*

Note: The Allied States have now become the Federal Republic, and all names needed to be changed have been. It is now the Federal Army, the Federal Navy, and the Federal Air Force, along with the Federal Senate, ANS (Used in ship designations, like the ANS Ark Royal is now FNS, etc.)

They waited underwater...

They were the Kisnesian Marine Combat Corps. 500 strong, they specialized in underwater attacks. And they had amazingly made it underwater in small groups to the location of the planned landfall.

They waited still...

Each man reflected on his life. Many had come from rough backgrounds. From poverty, misery, and discord. Many had thought they had no chance in the world.

And it looked like they still didn't.

500 Kisnesian warriors waited underwater, 20 feet off of the Northern Spanish shore. Their job was to use some of the world's most powerful rocket-propelled grenade launchers to blow away any and all command posts on the walls along this two-mile stretch of beach, and then to swim away as fast as possible.

They had all been given the plan: attack the northern wall, to act as a diversion from the attack from the west and hopefully draw thousands of troops away from their western positions.

But they had all been misinformed. Kisnesian Command wanted them to be captured, and for one of them to break down and tell the story about their diversionary tactic. So they had lied to one of their best combat units, and put them in harm's way, with almost no means of escape.

Good thing Kisnesia had 2 Marine Combat Corps... hopefully they would never find out about each other...

It was the most important space launch in Kisnesian history. Kisnesia had travelled into space before, but always with the intention of research and science, never for war.

The shuttle, with it's five-member crew and precious cargo lifted off early in the morning, and managed to fly over SnS territory in Africa without incident on its way to orbit (no suprise, considering the speed one must travel to achieve orbit). After that, a peaceful flight over Armacor and then the Indian Ocean before resting in orbit. Now onto Phase II.

The shuttle had in its cargo bay 25 mechanized robots. Each was on a search and destroy mission. Target: Macabeean communication satellites. The shuttle would pull up near what was thought to be a key satelite, set the robot in motion, and pull away quickly. When the robot, which was little more than a cheap computer, and engine, and a warhead, got within a certain proximity of the target, it would orient itself towards the target, and self-destruct.

The shuttle crew did their best to avoid Kisnesian and Armacor satellites, and managed to be successful in that endevor. But the havoc created on the ground by the destruction of Macabbean satelites would only be decided in time...

The shuttle safely touched down in Iceland... and Kisnesian strategists were already trying to come up with a way to fight back against the exact same strategy.

OOC: I think this is 100% modern tech. If not, tell me and I'll kill this part of the story.

ooc// in my mind close enough...

Sattelite Escoboza was approached by a weird looking robot. The intelligent computer zoomed into the bot but did not compute it as a threat. 20 seconds later the thing blew and so did the sattelite.

Back at Macabean Space Command (MSC) havoc ensued but it was found out that the main sattelite was still missed (OOC: I dont want to say the main sats name...unless you RP its destruction...see im not stupid)...

It was agreed that the three attack sattelites in orbit around the Azores, Spain and North Africa would target the Azores with a barrage of 3,000 Atmospheric Attack Missiles (OOC: like ICBM's only not nuclear).

Then an hour later 50 sattelites opened up their attack doors, commanded by the three attack satellites. 3,000 AAM's were launched.

NOTE: AAM's are Macabean tech..I RP'd it somewhere a long time ago.

ooc// who are they attacking and what do they do?

ooc// who are they attacking and what do they do?

OOC:

Me, and I assume they are powerful but conventional missiles.

I will RP the death of thousands here, but only after I get back from my concert. :)

i hoped it was you (ie i hoped it wasnt me :-) )

i hoped it was you (ie i hoped it wasnt me :-) )

OOC: I'm planning to use it against TJ. I wasn't planning to use it but now that people are using weird missiles launching equipment at me I just wanted to return the favor. :lol: :wink:

ooc// ok...

ic//
Sir, the combat cube just gained fourth dimension - they are fighting in space.

Very Well... Launch ASAT's to defend Armacor facilities, when needed.

(ooc// can i have my major space facility here? its on another thread, currently its a giant asteroid called Oberon in Geosync orbit :-) )

OOC: I wanted to leave space oriented missile launcers and robots out as much as possible...so I would say no but I really can't enforce that since I brought out my missile launcer... but as I said I brought it out to have something effective which can retaliate against anybody who launches missiles agaisnt me, instead of being a victim who cant retaliate.

ooc//
i will restrict my self to plane and land based ASATS... mainly as my giant asteroid has a purpose, and it has taken a month RW to get it here.... (im building a space elevator :-) )

EDIT: This has been cleared up.

IC:

It was a nice, peaceful night in Kisnesia, when all Hell broke loose.

Missiles started coming from the sky like drops of rain. Hundreds upon hundreds poured down, and hit many critical centers.

Hit was Kisneisan High Millitary Command of the Azores, causing a 2-hour breakdown in communications with all forces. 15 Airbases were also damaged. However, luck was on the side of Kisnesia, as many of the missiles fell into the sea, this being a land of many islands. The waves were a sight to see...

The millitary also suffered losses, as one of Kisnesia's 15 carrier groups was hit by several missiles, wiping out both carriers and 1 cruiser, and 15,000 army troops being escorted by them.

Total Dead: 130,792
Total Injured: 227, 623
-------------------------------------

OOC: I wont post an attack until we clear it up... I was attacking the Azores..not your actualy nation...actual NS nations are not on the map.

OOC: I wont post an attack until we clear it up... I was attacking the Azores..not your actualy nation...actual NS nations are not on the map.

OOC: Was simply trying to make it dramatic by blowing up my capitol building...

OOC: Although I explained this in the wrong thread go to the Map OOC thread and you'll see it there.

OOC: Although I explained this in the wrong thread go to the Map OOC thread and you'll see it there.

OOC:
Ok, read it.

That makes more sense.... Question: since each colony satellite is controlled by a central computer, would knocking out your most important satellites affect their abillity?

OOC: Although I explained this in the wrong thread go to the Map OOC thread and you'll see it there.

OOC:
Ok, read it.

That makes more sense.... Question: since each colony satellite is controlled by a central computer, would knocking out your most important satellites affect their abillity?

OOC: Yes..of course all three..but getting to the central computers is next to impossible and be highly expensive for you to even try. They use top notch defense technology including using the missiles in self defense (automated)... I didnt add that to the description since I didnt think of an attack on them. And then you have to get to all three.

OOC: Although I explained this in the wrong thread go to the Map OOC thread and you'll see it there.

OOC:
Ok, read it.

That makes more sense.... Question: since each colony satellite is controlled by a central computer, would knocking out your most important satellites affect their abillity?

OOC: Yes..of course all three..but getting to the central computers is next to impossible and be highly expensive for you to even try. They use top notch defense technology including using the missiles in self defense (automated)... I didnt add that to the description since I didnt think of an attack on them. And then you have to get to all three.

OOC: Yes, we went after communication satellites, not millitary satellites, and did not hit the central computers... Would that affect their abillity to communicate?

OOC: Hate to butt in, but I should like to interject a post I've been intending to put on this thread as soon as things moved along a little further on the major invasion part. It's kinda not there yet, but consider this to take place after a few more steps have been taken.

Probably a matter of several hours after the previous action by Leviathan.

IC:

The submarines rose again, slightly north; they loosed another pair of volleys, much like the first, following up on their targets.

Six hours after this pair of volleys and just over two hundred miles further north-northeast of their previous positions, the winged darts flew again, subsonic boost phase of the Snake ER missiles allowing them to strike deeper into TM territory than the previous Snake SM strikes*, following up ahead of any probable Kisnesian advance. After firing this volley, they remained visible for a short five minutes steaming north-northeast to confirm guidance handling and targeting before diving out of sight, still heading on a clear track north-northeast.

*At the cost, naturally, of significantly more advance warning of their approach.

OOC: No, the attack sats and their colony sats are self sufficient... also I was told by TJ to clear this... the orbits of these sats are extremely hard to find...

Destroying the comm. sat. merely interupted ground communication between civilians... the military has its own group of sattelites, as well protected as the attack satellites.

I've been making these sats since I had 150 million pop (the comm and military..not the missile launcher).

Recent warnings about these attacks had already prompted Macabean defense systems to let loose. Everything was tried that was stockpiled, patriots, etc...

The missiles which hit (not known) did much damage to behind the lines fuel and food stocks as well as small concentrations of tank parks and men. Total casualties were about 80 mixed tanks destroyed and 7,000 men dead, considerably higher than the last attack.

Ok, editied original "Missile Rain" post above.

Working on actual invasion post now...

The attack began at daybreak. Supported by Kisnesian Battleships, Bombers, and 1,000 more cruise missiles (would have been 1500 had the launch sites in the Azores of some missiles had not been destroyed by satellite attack). But this time, it was all directed against the Northern Wall.

Troop transport boats were sent in. The first 20 boats (400 troops) were lost to mines and gunners on the walls, but the missiles and valiant efforts of these troops cleared a temporary opening for 50 boats (1,000 soldiers) to get right up to the walls, which were damaged in places. An attack was immediately launched through the largest hole, and explosives were rigged in other areas. These troops were mostly mowed down by enemy guns and tanks on the other side of the wall, but they had gained a tiny foothold, and with more boats arriving every minute, their size was increasing.

Kisnesian fighers, 1500 strong, fought for control of the air, while bombers dropped munitions on thickly concentrated areas of troops and tanks.

Kisnesian commanders sent in 300 Attack helicopters, to try to gain control of the top of the walls. 73 were shot down by enemy fighers, but Kisnesian coverage increased enough to allow the helicopters to fire at anyone on top of the walls.

Then, the explosive-rigged areas were cleared (mostly, not completely...), and new damage was done to the wall (OOC: how much is your job... roughly as much TNT in 2 locations as the explosive power of 2 cruise missiles hitting their target head on, head on since these were rigged explosives).

Bunkers hit by the cruise missiles were somewhat destroyed... some totally but most with only major damage including concrete emplacements totally destroyed. About some 800 were dead and a further 2,100 wounded by the time the attacks begun.

As the enemy hit the beach the machingunners openned up from the emplacements, as well as the small 150mm artillery/anti-tank guns. From 20km behind the larger 350mm guns began to rain hell upon the enemy.

On the beach itself digged in tanks fired on the agressors and machine gun nests worked to destroy the enemy. Snipers hit individual soldiers and mortars were also brought up. Behind the primary line a trench covered a secondary line and it was quickly filled with soldiers.

Panzergruppe North was brought in for reinforcements to contain a breakthrough if it happened. (12,000 tanks, 400,000 men and 12,000 assault guns).

In the air the 2,100 fighters of Luftflotte IV were all brought to bear. The 2,000 bombers were all sent south in exchange for another 2,000 fighters which would arrive soon. It was all up to them to stop the beachhead.

Kisnesian aircraft began to lose control of the skies. Being overwhelmed by the number of fighters, many of the bombers pulled back and were sent back to the Azores. Bombing runs would continue, but only based from the Azores, not from nearby aircraft carriers (this eliminates about a third of my bombings).

These planes were replaced with new fighters. Kisnesia launched an additional fleet of 2 Carriers and 10 AEGIS Cruisers to deal with the lack of air power (RL arrival time - 10:00 PM U.S. Eastern Time). Additionally, diplomats were instructed to find a base of operations from where more planes could provide coverage. Kisnesian fighters were increased to 1700 in the area, but few more could be supported at one time this distance from their home base.

500 Cruise missiles were launched at enemy reinforcements, well behind the current battle lines so as to not damage the 3 tiny beacheads set up by Kisnesian troops. A few tanks were landed and began entering into battle, but nearly half of the tanks were destroyed within the hour, as well as most of the troops.

Total losses so far:
78,000 Troops (out of 150,000 landed - 650,000 left in water)
2,1000 Artillery (out of 4,000 landed - 12,000 left in water)
650 Fighters (out of around 2000, but are replaced, reinforcing numbers up to 1700 now in area)
147 Bombers (out of 500, forces decreased to about 300, based out of Azores)

OOC: The following casualties are on the cruise missile attack..since you don't know the exact positions of my panzergruppe my casualties are relatively light.

IC:

Report to Valencia Headquarters

North >>

Dead:
>>> Infantry : ca. 2,000
>>> Armor : ca. 40 tanks completely destroyed (1 tank part hit... 10 other tanks individually struck).
>>> Assault Guns : ca. 50

Time to reinforce: 2 days

OOC: Report on landing casualties

IC:

Report to Valencia

North>>

Dead:

Infantry : ca. 22,000
Armor : 200 knocked out
Artillery : 2,000 destroyed by counter fire from ships and bombers
Anti-tank Guns : 20
Bunkers : 39 half knocket out

Time to reinforce : 1 day

_____________________________

Back on the beaches....

The enemy kept up the attack on the bunker but an additional 20,000 artillery guns had been brought up to 20km from the beach. Now a total of 40,000 guns returned fire.

The fighters promised (2,100) had arrived and the bombers sent away had also left by railroad. Now a total of 4,200 fighters were in the theater (actually about 4,034 due to shot down aircraft).

SAM and Patriot missiles sights were also apparent.... but the Macabees would pull yet another missiles attack from the dark black sky....

The three central attack sattelites commanded from Valencia were told to command the 50 colony sattelites to open fire. 400 missiles were launched at the beaches and at what was thought to be the naval concentration off the beaches ( I wouldn't expect to hit dead center... maybe a little damage for your ships...but not much... maybe like 10 ships sunk...).

It was also said that the armies in Afrika were about to retreat back to Spain..for reasons unknown.

Imperial Directive No. 10:

[i]Our forces from North Afrika, Heresgruppes A, B and C have returned to Spain after a short retreat from the Afrikan continent. Luftflottes I, II and III have also returned along with Panzergruppe Afrika, to be renamed Panzergruppe Bilbao.

Thus in recognition of the attacks by Keynesia PG Bilbao is to go north and reinforce PG North. The three heeresgruppe are to occupy around Madrid and to reinforce or counter attack when necessary.

Luftflottes I and II are to put full fighter coverega in the north, making the numbers up to 8, 400 fighters now. Luftflotte III is to guard over western Spain with its 2,100 fighters.

Now with our entire army in Spain we can effectively push the enemy to the sea, and once that's done we will rise again!

[signed]Finegold III

****Message from Kisnesian High Command****
To: The Macabees

We would like to ask for a 1 week (24-hour RL) cease fire, during which time we will land no more troops. Both you and I may bring in reinforcements, but may not attack each other in this period.

We also reserve the right to request an NAP treaty be signed at the end of this period. This may or may not happen.

Agreed?

****End Message****

***Transmission to Valencia, from Barcelona***

Just as you stood by us in Africa despite overwhelming odds, and keeping true to our Alliance, we are preparing to shift significant Naval Forces to defeat the Kisnesian Navy with you. Since a State of War still exists between the Federal Navy cannot send all of the ships it would have liked since the Mediterranean Fleets still require the majority of our Naval ships, and we also are rnforcing our Pacific battlefleet, but still, we feel the force is sufficient for operations. The force is as follows

Atlantic Battlefleet
Commander - Grand Admiral Hart
Base of Supplies - Barcelona
5 Ark Royal class Fleet Carriers (138 aircraft, 33 Rotary, 105 Fixed Wing each)
9 Athena class Light Carriers (45 Aircraft, 12 Rotary, 33 Fixed Wing each)
1 Excelsior class Battleships
5 King II class Battleships
6 King I class Battleships
9 Des Moines class Heavy Cruisers
8 Alaska class Heavy Cruisers
17 Ticonderoga class Cruisers (w/AEGIS)
6 Kirov class Missile Cruisers
20 Arleigh Burke class Destroyers (w/AEGIS)
19 Spruance class Destroyers
28 Gearing class Destroyers (Modernized)
28 Fletcher class Destroyers (Modernized)
22 OHP class Frigates
68 Fast Attack Combat Ships
11 FCS Ammo Ships
12 FCS Supply Ships
8 Fleet Oilers
8 Los Angeles class Attack Submarines
4 Virginia class Submarines
4 Sea Wolf class Submarines


EDIT: The Fleet will respect any cease fire engaged by both you and Kisnesia together, however it will still consider Kisnesia in a state of Belligerence and the deployment will continue

We must refute. If we allow you to bring in reinforments you can cosolidate your position and build from there. If anything a sieze fire will only be agreed upon if you agree not to reinforce the beaches as I will not bring in further reinforcements (after PG Bilbao) within a 100km radius of the war zone.

We will also stop the missile launching from space (we've bombed you a second time btw) until the armstice is broken.

We will rondevouz with you at a given point with the following fleet already positioned in the Atlantic (off Lisbon).

5 Rommel Class Battleships
10 Seydlitz Class Cruisers
10 Halder Class Pocket Battleships
20 Manstein Class Destroyers
10 Sea Wolf Attack Subs
10 Tankers
20 Supply Ships
3 Nimitz Aircraft Carriers (180 fighters).

We must refute. If we allow you to bring in reinforments you can cosolidate your position and build from there. If anything a sieze fire will only be agreed upon if you agree not to reinforce the beaches as I will not bring in further reinforcements (after PG Bilbao) within a 100km radius of the war zone.

We will also stop the missile launching from space (we've bombed you a second time btw) until the armstice is broken.

****Message from Kisnesian High Command****
Very well. No reinforcements will be sent at all, except the ones that just recently arrived (were deployed before we sent you the Cease fire message). We will keep all new forces 100 km in radius outside of the combat zone.

Also, we request that SnS abide by our cease fire, as they appear willing to do.
****End of Message****

To: Keynesia

Agreed upon. Your forces have been given freedom of movement on the beach itself and our bunkers will not fire on your men. All artillery and missile bombardments have also siezed.

***Transmission to Valencia, from Barcelona***

Just as you stood by us in Africa despite overwhelming odds, and keeping true to our Alliance, we are preparing to shift significant Naval Forces to defeat the Kisnesian Navy with you. Since a State of War still exists between the Federal Navy cannot send all of the ships it would have liked since the Mediterranean Fleets still require the majority of our Naval ships, and we also are rnforcing our Pacific battlefleet, but still, we feel the force is sufficient for operations. The force is as follows

Atlantic Battlefleet
Commander - Grand Admiral Hart
Base of Supplies - Barcelona
5 Ark Royal class Fleet Carriers (138 aircraft, 33 Rotary, 105 Fixed Wing)
9 Athena class Light Carriers (45 Aircraft, 12 Rotary, 33 Fixed Wing)
1 Excelsior class Battleships
5 King II class Battleships
6 King I class Battleships
9 Des Moines class Heavy Cruisers
8 Alaska class Heavy Cruisers
17 Ticonderoga class Cruisers (w/AEGIS)
6 Kirov class Missile Cruisers
20 Arleigh Burke class Destroyers (w/AEGIS)
19 Spruance class Destroyers
28 Gearing class Destroyers (Modernized)
28 Fletcher class Destroyers (Modernized)
22 OHP class Frigates
68 Fast Attack Combat Ships
11 FCS Ammo Ships
12 FCS Supply Ships
8 Fleet Oilers
8 Los Angeles class Attack Submarines
4 Virginia class Submarines
4 Sea Wolf class Submarines

From the desk of Admiral Stromsveldt:
Track and lurk all non-Kisnesian carrier assets in the Atlantic, as per the Lurk Operations Manual. Preparations are to be made for Operation Earthbind; details have been enclosed for stealth operations and submersible elements of the Atlantic Fleet.

Memo from the desk of General Ripper:
Hunter satellites are to be begin targeting Macabean satellite assets on an LOS opportunity and rechargable asset munition situation. Orbital tracking is to identify and locate the missile satellites, which should not be too difficult to spot, given their necessary size; until a positive identification, all Macabean objects in orbit, whether presumed civilian, military, functional, or non, are to be fired upon at least once.

Laser satellites, irregularly shaped and often officially part of the vast spew of debris from the highly independent, often experimental, highly erratic, and historically prolific Tahar Joblissan space programs, including colonists, religious icons, momuments, cemetaries, will now begin firing laser bursts - deadly, inescapable, and completely invisible in the vacuum of space - as per LOS opportunity with satellites identified as Macabean.

Tahar Joblissan related and allied space assets, as well as observatories ground and space based, are very likely to be able to identify the missile satellites by profile fairly quickly - at which point laser assets in their various orbits will strictly eliminate those as they are sighted.

OOC: Could you perhaps tell me exactly what kind of vessels are tracking my ships, and how you plan on avoiding detection, I am expanding my ASW capabilities on most of my vessels, but the ones deployed are for the most part not expanded, but still competent ASW.

Kisnesian forces have respected the cease-fire agreement.

Unfortunately, the laws of physics haven't, and Kisnesia lost 1 carrier, 6 cruisers, 3 subs, 2 tank divisions, and a flotilla of transports holding 50,000 troops due to missiles fired before the cease-fire agreement went into effect.

The Federal Military has agreed to respect the cease fire agreement, however the 4 task forces (That make up my Atlantic Battlefleet, one from the Gulf of Guinea, one from across the pond, one from England, and one from the Med.) will continue to move towards their new bases of operations in Portugal. No ordinance has been reported expended, so the Federal Navy cannot take claim for the losses incurred during the initiation of the cease fire (The only fleet in rage is the one coming from England anyway).

The missile launchers again opened. This time the missiles to be fired where to be with no inscriptions, atleast until more missiles had been sent to space by supply crafts.

5,000 AAM's quickly made their way to North Africa where upon 1,000 were directed to the TJ capital while all the others were sent to known military sites.

But to avoid the blame on the Macabees the missiles would first arch from southern Africa and then keep a low profile across the continent and hit TJ from there.

It would make either Amacor or the Fearful look responsible.

OOC: 5,000 doesn't mean all at once... 200 every 10 seconds are sent, therefore it would take 250 seconds to launch all of them (or some 4 minutes).

OOC: Could you perhaps tell me exactly what kind of vessels are tracking my ships, and how you plan on avoiding detection, I am expanding my ASW capabilities on most of my vessels, but the ones deployed are for the most part not expanded, but still competent ASW.

OOC:

Well, we have three kinds of assets here, and they are tracking not just you, but most ships operating in the mideastern Atlantic.

One are submarines, of course; largely, for tracking, we'd be using the extremely numerous and extremely small "solar subs". Hunter sub assets, also very numerous, but not nearly as numerous, would be generally lurking in ready positions, getting position updates, and so forth. Generally speaking, I have advanced submarine technology and techniques (cutting edge, so to speak), elite experienced sub crews, and numerous submersible assets. It's our main naval concentration, as a mainly naval country.

Second are very small surface vessels, which generally don't present apparent threat.

Third are stealth surface assets - low signature corvettes, patrol vessels, etc, that present a significantly smaller profile on radar than they appear as.

***IMMEDIATE HIGH PRIORITY BURST TRANSMISSION, CODE ALPHA 1***
***FROM: ARMACOR NCA, CINCNORAD (effectively)***
***TO: TAHAR JOBLIS NCA, CINCNORAD (also effectively, as i dont know what yours is called either :-) ) ***
ARMACOR SPACE ASSETS HAVE DETECED INBOUND SPACE LAUNCHED BALLISTIC TRACKS ON TARGET TO YOU. WE HAVE COMMENCED FIRING ON THE TARGETS, HOWEVER RECOMMEND YOU ALERT ALL DEFENSES.
***END***

***IMMEDIATE HIGH PRIORITY BURST TRANSMISSION, CODE ALPHA 1***
***FROM: ARMACOR NCA, CINCNORAD (effectively)***
***TO: TAHAR JOBLIS NCA, CINCNORAD (also effectively, as i dont know what yours is called either :-) ) ***
ARMACOR SPACE ASSETS HAVE DETECED INBOUND SPACE LAUNCHED BALLISTIC TRACKS ON TARGET TO YOU. WE HAVE COMMENCED FIRING ON THE TARGETS, HOWEVER RECOMMEND YOU ALERT ALL DEFENSES.
***END***

OOC: Tahar Joblissan space based laser satellites actually began firing on the Macabean missile satellites before the order to fire them on Tahar Joblis was given - see other thread, I believe it is the Kazakh/Russia one.

Communique to Armacor NCA from the Crisis Commitee:
We are aware; we have already begun tracking and destroying the space based missile assets, which we believe to be a joint DT/Macabean project. Targets are being selected for reprisal.

****Message from Kisnesian High Command****

Kisnesia would like to negotiate a NAP with SnS and Macabees.

Terms would be as follows:
1. A cease of hostillities between Kisnesia and these two nations.
2. Withdrawl of all Kisnesian forces from Spain and nearby islands.
3. Kisnesian recognition of SnS and Macabeean ownership of territory in Spain, France, and Portugal
4. Sns and Macabeean recognition of Kisnesian ownership of Iceland.

If these terms are not acceptable, we request another 1-week (24 RL hours) of cease-fire on the Iberian, under the same terms.

****End Message****

***Diplomatic Transmission from Philadelphia-Kisnesian Capitol***

We regret to inform you we cannot accept this peace offer unless it is ammended to also recognize our soveriegnty over Algiers and Oran, and the Atlas Mountains in Algeria.

***Diplomatic Transmission from Philadelphia-Kisnesian Capitol***

We regret to inform you we cannot accept this peace offer unless it is ammended to also recognize our soveriegnty over Algiers and Oran, and the Atlas Mountains in Algeria.

****Message from Kisnesian High Command****

Such terms are acceptable to us provided that you agree to respect the human rights of the inhabitants

********

***Federal Senate, official Response to Kisnesian Peace***

We would of course respect their rights, we have no history of subjugation and certainly would not start in these places, if we have treated our vanquished enemies with respect, we would treat those caught in the middle of a massive war the same. With those ammendments made, the Federal Senate will accept the Peace Treaty and NAP with Kisnesia, provided it is also signed by our ally (The Macabees).

OOC: See Tahar Joblis thread for what really happened.
---------------------
The newly appointed ambassador to the Macabees stormed into the capitol and demanded to speak to the president, or at least someone high-ranking.

"What the **** do you think you're doing? We just signed a peace treaty (OOC: I'm assuming we did, since SnS agreed and Macabees, um, yeah....) and now you're blasting us out of the ***** water!"

After being given a sedative, the ambassador explained that 2 cruisers and a battleship had been sunk by unknown missiles from the sky, which must have been launched after the peace treaty was signed.

The Kisnesian ambassador demanded that either Macabees pay to replace the lost ships and pay the families of the men lost (an amount to be determined later), or else Kisnesia would resume hostilities.

To al fighting here in Iberia:
It is beautiful to see once again that our neighbours are unable to unite and can find the only possibility of their problems into war and terrorising eachother. May we warn you that although we are a small nation without a large army we will defend every inch of land. No nation will rule over the people of Euskadi. Victory to the Basques!

Also if any of your nations is responsible for this terrorist attack we would like to know:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97050

this is a WWIX thread, it is closed (we should probably say that, right guys?)
therefore for the purposes of it, you dont actually exist

also you are only two days old - if i was you and you did exist i whould hide, there are nations in that region with (multiple) standing armies that are larger than your whole nation.

Hmmm...... WWIX has fizzed out, Armacor, did you ever sign a Peace treaty with me or are we still at war?

um.... not sure... could have been a cease fire i think (we both needed to lick wounds) :-) ...

To Keynesia: Terms are acceptable and we will not fire on troops retreating from the beaches.

OOC: I'm not aware if the peace is still in process...

To SnS: We hereby give you full control of our armies. Of course, this will be wholly Macabean, but I regret to say that I lack the time for the time being to continue to oversee operations.

OOC: I'm still in this, I'll be e-mailing SnS (If I still have his e-mail somewhere around her).. just in case e-mail some message to Dfzppln@yahoo.com ... all e-mails will be on a update on the situation and further deployments of troops....

Appendex 1 :: (Only SnS should realistically know this)

Northern Spain - Total Forces

Heeresgruppe A - General-feldmarchall Erich von Manstein
-1st Heeresarmees
>>>5 Heereskorps with 20 Infantry Divisions
>>>2 Artilleries Korps with 10 Artillery Divisions
-2nd Heeresarmees
>>>5 Heereskorps with 20 Infantry Divisions
>>>2 Artilleries Korps with 10 Artillery Divisions
-3rd Heeresarmees
>>>5 Heereskorps with 20 Infantry Divisions
>>>2 Artilleries Korps with 10 Artillery Divisions
-1st Panzergruppe
>>>2 Panzerkorps with 6 panzer divisions
>>>2 Assault Korps with 6 assault divisions
>>>2 Panzerheerkorps with 10 PZH divisions
-2nd Panzergruppe
>>>2 Panzerkorps with 6 panzer divisions
>>>2 Assault Korps with 6 assault divisions
>>>2 Panzerheerkorps with 10 PZH divisions

Panzergruppe Bilbao - Generaloberst Heinz Guderian
>>>2 Panzerkorps with 6 panzer divisions
>>>2 Assault Korps with 6 assault divisions
>>>2 Panzerheerkorps with 10 PZH divisions

Luftflotte I - General der Luftwaffe Kesselring
>>>70 Fighter Squadrons; 2,100 fighters ((SS-102's))
>>>40 Dive Bomber Squadrons, 2,000 DB (SS-101's)
>>>90 Bomber Squadrons; 5,000 Bombers (B-52's)

Western Spain (based around the Tagus River)

Heeresgruppe B - General-feldmarchall Fedor von Bock
-4th Heeresarmee
>>>5 Heereskorps with 20 Infantry Divisions
>>>2 Artilleries Korps with 10 Artillery Divisions
-5th Heeresarmees
>>>5 Heereskorps with 20 Infantry Divisions
>>>2 Artilleries Korps with 10 Artillery Divisions
-6th Heeresarmees
>>>5 Heereskorps with 20 Infantry Divisions
>>>2 Artilleries Korps with 10 Artillery Divisions
-4th Panzergruppe
>>>2 Panzerkorps with 6 panzer divisions
>>>2 Assault Korps with 6 assault divisions
>>>2 Panzerheerkorps with 10 PZH divisions
-5th Panzergruppe
>>>2 Panzerkorps with 6 panzer divisions
>>>2 Assault Korps with 6 assault divisions
>>>2 Panzerheerkorps with 10 PZH divisions

Panzergruppe Tagus - Generaloberst Erwin Rommel
>>>2 Panzerkorps with 6 panzer divisions
>>>2 Assault Korps with 6 assault divisions
>>>2 Panzerheerkorps with 10 PZH divisions

Luftflotte II - General der Luftwaffe Adolf Galland
>>>70 Fighter Squadrons; 2,100 fighters ((SS-102's))
>>>40 Dive Bomber Squadrons, 2,000 DB (SS-101's)
>>>90 Bomber Squadrons; 5,000 Bombers (B-52's)

Southern Spain (based around southern Portugal to Sevilla)

Heeresgruppe C - General-feldmarchall Freirer von Leeb
-7th Heeresarmee
>>>5 Heereskorps with 20 Infantry Divisions
>>>2 Artilleries Korps with 10 Artillery Divisions
-8th Heeresarmees
>>>5 Heereskorps with 20 Infantry Divisions
>>>2 Artilleries Korps with 10 Artillery Divisions
-9th Heeresarmees
>>>5 Heereskorps with 20 Infantry Divisions
>>>2 Artilleries Korps with 10 Artillery Divisions
-6th Panzergruppe
>>>2 Panzerkorps with 6 panzer divisions
>>>2 Assault Korps with 6 assault divisions
>>>2 Panzerheerkorps with 10 PZH divisions
-7th Panzergruppe
>>>2 Panzerkorps with 6 panzer divisions
>>>2 Assault Korps with 6 assault divisions
>>>2 Panzerheerkorps with 10 PZH divisions

Panzergruppe Sevilla - Generaloberst von Kleist
>>>2 Panzerkorps with 6 panzer divisions
>>>2 Assault Korps with 6 assault divisions
>>>2 Panzerheerkorps with 10 PZH divisions

Luftflotte III - General der Luftwaffe von Richtofen
>>>100 Fighter Squadrons; 3,000 fighters ((SS-102's))
>>>40 Dive Bomber Squadrons, 2,000 DB (SS-101's)

Gibraltar Front

Gibraltar Panzergruppe - Generaloberst von Kluge
>>>2 Panzerkorps with 6 panzer divisions
>>>2 Assault Korps with 6 assault divisions
>>>2 Panzerheerkorps with 10 PZH divisions

Luftflotte IV - General der Luftwaffe Goerring
>>>100 Fighter Squadrons; 3,000 fighters ((SS-102's))
>>>40 Dive Bomber Squadrons, 2,000 DB (SS-101's)

Reserve (Valencia - Madrid)

Panzergruppe Madrid - Generaloberst Walter Model
>>>2 Panzerkorps with 6 panzer divisions
>>>2 Assault Korps with 6 assault divisions
>>>2 Panzerheerkorps with 10 PZH divisions

Kriegsmarine (based off Valencia, Cartagena, Gibraltar and Malaga Ports)

High Seas Fleet - Admiral Tirpitz
5 HMS Marx Dreadnoughts
5 Rommel Class BB's
2 Halder Class Pocket Battleships
10 Manstein Class Destroyers
20 Clauswitz Class Frigates
20 Seydlitz class Cruisers
30 Patrol Boats
20 Minesweepers
25 Mine and Net Layers
15 Tankers
3 Nimitz Class Carriers
50 Sea Wolf Class Submarines


Support

200,000 Pegaso Heavy Trucks
250,000 Pegaso Medium Trucks
120,000 Pegaso Light Trucks
7000 C-130's
800 Million tons of food monthly
120 million gallons of petrol in unset intervals
700km of bridging material in unset intervals
8.9 million cooks, mechanics, engineers, drivers, etc...
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Appendix B :: Divisional Strengths

Infantry - 20,000 men
Artillery (Fixed) - 1,000
1st Brigade : 250 300mm Howitzers
2nd Brigade : 250 350mm Howitzers
3rd Brigade : 250 Heavy Artillery 375mm
4th Brigade : 250 300mm Howitzers
Panzer - 625 tanks
1st Brigade : 125 Stug III Ausf. B SAM's
2nd Brigade : 125 Jagdtiger anti-tank (Heavy)
3rd Brigade : 125 Panzer VIII Nebuchadnezzars (Heavy)
4th Brigade : 125 Panzer VII Cougars (Medium)
5th Brigade : 125 Panzer IV King Lions (Light)
Assault (SP Artillery) - 500 vehicles
1st Brigade : 125 300mm Elephants
2nd Brigade : 125 350mm Ferdinands
3rd Brigade : 125 10 barrelled 300mm Panzerwerfers
4th Brigade : 125 155mm Crusaders
Panzerheer - 20,000 men

for a discription on the armaments and armor of vehicles go here .... www24.brinkster.com/macabeanarms

Appendix C :: (Also fowarded to SnS)

Imperial Directive No. 10

Future operations in Spain and Europe. The new limits imposed on us by my idea to not control the war any longer and give command to our allies in Barcelona, until I have for time, will not impeed us from making a top rate war effort.

Currently we control most of Spain, central France and Eastern Australia. I now ask for our allies to participate in mere defensive measures in Africa and Spain and to not neglect the need for the protection of the Iberian peninsula.

Thank you, you have all the forces we currently have mobilized in Spain at your disposal. Also, we give you one last reinforcement package until we close off our man supplies until given enough time.

Heeresgruppe D - General-feldmarchall von Runstedt
-10th Heeresarmee
>>>5 Heereskorps with 20 Infantry Divisions
>>>2 Artilleries Korps with 10 Artillery Divisions
-11th Heeresarmees
>>>5 Heereskorps with 20 Infantry Divisions
>>>2 Artilleries Korps with 10 Artillery Divisions
-12th Heeresarmees
>>>5 Heereskorps with 20 Infantry Divisions
>>>2 Artilleries Korps with 10 Artillery Divisions
-7th Panzergruppe
>>>2 Panzerkorps with 6 panzer divisions
>>>2 Assault Korps with 6 assault divisions
>>>2 Panzerheerkorps with 10 PZH divisions
-8th Panzergruppe
>>>2 Panzerkorps with 6 panzer divisions
>>>2 Assault Korps with 6 assault divisions
>>>2 Panzerheerkorps with 10 PZH divisions

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To: Tunis and the Tajar Joblis commanders
From: Valencia

We want to establish a informal NAP with your armies. We will not participate in any future aggressions against you, clandestine or not, at the exchange of the same from your. We hope you reply with a positive answer. Thank you.

[deleted]..someone else has hegimony over Japan.

Imperial Directive No. 11 (also sent to SnS)

Heeresarmees Russka and Siberia as well as Panzergruppe Vladivostok, all under the joint command of General-feldmarchall Hermann von Balck is destined to invade the Vladivostok region, over the TJ land influences.

Everything from the Urals to the Pacific is to be occupied by these troops. As the campaign ends a series of forts and lines will be comstructed to ensure a good defense.

Also as our barrels of men expand we will be mobilizing and sending three other Heeresarmees and two other Panzergruppes.

This entire invasion force will be known as Heeregruppe D and will originate from Austrulia. Actually the landings should already be progressing!

Good luck my men!

[signed]Finegold III

To Keynesia: Terms are acceptable and we will not fire on troops retreating from the beaches.

Troops are retreating now. They are still covered by our forces, but will not fire unless fired upon.

***Transmission from Barcelona-Manila, Federal Pacific Command, also sent to Valencia***

Macabean forces preparing for invasion of Eastern Russia. Pacific Battlefleet is to support this invasion along with Macabean Naval forces, and home base at Vladivostok until the Invasion has moved beyond effective range and air bases on the mainland are secure.

The Mechanized division on Luzon should also be prepared to move out immediately for to secure Formosa along with two cruisers from the Pacific Battlefleet, and one of our new Warrior class Battlecruisers.

***End***

- The Federal Republic

OOC:

I'm basically trying to help my situation by threating the Fearful if he decided to launch a Gibraltar invasion. In other words, if he attacks from the south I can launch an invasion of his land in India, or of Madagascar. From Madagascar I can pinch him in southern Africa which may force him to sign a NAP.

As I see it any landings in the Iberian peninsula, not supported by atleast 3 million men, will fail on the beaches itself or close to them. The Iberian peninsula is defended by top rate troops and over 8 million of them at that. So, lets say that an invader takes a beachhead the size of that of Normandy '44. In a matter of days or weeks I would be able to destroy that with overwhelming fire power already positioned in Spain.

OOC: The Fearful isn't in a position to launch in invasion of the Iberian anyway. The Naval forces in the Med and Atlantic would mean death for any number of troops he launches from Northern Morocco, at the moment the only person in a position to laucn an invasion of the Iberian without facing massive naval forces is Kisnesia, becuase the Atlantic fleets are either in England of in Portugal, but those forces wouldn't have long before being isolated.

OOC: Well, naval assets damaged by attacks already... and any attack on Iberia would probably only come with allied support. Would you mind ... erm, clarifying the position here of exactly how you're moving to take the Urals to the Pacific? I'm having trouble seeing it on the map...

To: Tunis

We are aware of your holdings in South Eastern Russia and we are willing to sign a non-agression pact, as our forces are invading from the east. Thank you.

OOC:

Well I land in eastern Russia and then sweep to the Urals in the north, quite easily. I hold positions in the Pacific and have allied powers in much of the waters, so my advance in the sea is uncontested.

Message from the TSR office of Foreign Relations:

We are quite willing to not attack you, so long as you do not attack us or our allies, although we have no "Asian holdings" of any sort. However, we are somewhat mistrustful. Is there perhaps some fashion in which you could reassure our nervousness?

Message from Cyprus:

Our intelligence indicates you have already engaged in attacks upon us. We demand an explanation before talks proceed any further. Your intents to take a position in the north of Asia seem clearly intended to provide threat to us and our close allies.

Message from the Free Siberian Republics' Presidential Commission:
"Holdings" of the TSR? You insult us terribly, Spaniard. Let it be known that any attempt to land Macabean troops in any of the Free Siberian Republics will be considered an act of war. We do not believe in letting armies of an imperialist power march in on us to see them turn upon us.

Excerpt of a speech made in Ulan Baatar today:
"The Macabeans now approach. What is it they want? I say they want our land here, for they think us weak! Easily cowed! They insult our leaders, our confederation, and wish us to simply let them walk in our front door! I say no! We lived under the thumb of Russian imperialism for too long to let more imperialists simply come marching in here!"

OOC: btw, wait a minute here... I'm not seeing how you could threaten TheFearful from northern russia. As I recall, TheFearful holds a small pocket of India, and in order to get there from the northeast by land, you would need to cross the Himalayas and through Isolationist Peoples' holdings or Largent's holdings in addition to SAVX holdings. For that matter, an easy route to northern Russia to threaten DT or Malatose would be through Largent's scandinavian holdings, or just sent in through the Baltic to DT holdings. Your best platform to threaten TheFearful - aside from through Iberia - is west across the Indian Ocean from your Aussie holdings. OOCly speaking, of course.

Imperial Directive No. 12
MGS, MHC, HHC, KHC, LHC, PHC

Troops set for the invasion of Siberian immediately withdrawl, ships are waiting for you in the Artic. All troops still outside also withdrawl. We are in no position to wage war against Tahar Joblis.

[signed]Finegold III

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To: Tahar Joblis
From: Valencia

We are sorry for any attacks upon your men. If you wish we will pratice decimation upon our two armies sent to attack the Russian siberia. Well, actually much less that decimation, but nonetheless we will carry out a sort of execution, to show what happens if neutrals are attacked during a war.

[signed]Finegold III