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Expanding forces from CCC's first army corp moved across the straits of gibraltar from their base into morocco and the surrounding desert, capturing from rabat to opran (in algeria), halting outside beecher. They set up a headquarters in Rabat, with heavy naval guns relocated from storage to prepositioned emplacements overlooking the gibraltar straits, (OOC the straits are now covered from both sides by heavy naval guns in an interlocking defense, controlled by command stations on each side, these have been range tested and sightlined in for optimal efficency. We will only allow allies and neutrals through (ie prearrange it)/OOC) in a manner reminisant to the atlantic sea wall built by the germans or the maginot line by the french.

Lets see how long you last against my Naval Fleet when we return form Al Anbar. Stop us or make any hostile move and consider your nation annexed.

OOC:
Mannerheim's Line, by the Finnish, on land.

On the other hand, you said naval guns and not AA guns. Fatal mistake if a nation concentrating on air superiority...

OOC
1) to tersanctus:
are you in this war? i cant see your name on the list, so if not i dont care what you try.
2) where is al anbar? i cant see it on my map as likely to affect me soon
to Zvarinograd
yes... i should remedy that - will hope noone attacks with planes before i reinforce :-)

OOC
1) to tersanctus:
are you in this war? i cant see your name on the list, so if not i dont care what you try.
2) where is al anbar? i cant see it on my map as likely to affect me soon
to Zvarinograd
yes... i should remedy that - will hope noone attacks with planes before i reinforce :-)

Well Al Anbar, is a Section of Iraq and Syria, that The United Emirates is currently fighting. As we are in the Syrian Coast, we will need to leave through the straights.


http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=85060&highlight=

OOC
ah there... so not for at least a day (good i can get my anti air in)

still are you in WWIX?
if so why arnt you worried about armacor (which just took out the whole of the middle east up to the saudi/iraqi border) or tathar joblis (sp) which is on cyprus and hasnt moved yet and both of which are 1.8B+ ppl :-)

ooc

CCC want some help? if he is a gatecrasher, otherwise its pretty much irrelivent as i doubt he can leave this area... i like my armies :-)

The nation of Kisnesia (WWIX Thread: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=91377) demands that CHS CitiBank Corp allow all nations, neutral or not, to pass through the straits of Gibraltar. We also consider the seizure of African territory an expansionist and aggressive move. Withdraw your forces, or we will respond.

Kisnesia
WWIX: Based out of Azores

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OOC: Before you reply, check your telegrams.

we feel that we cannot withdraw from africa as we need space into which to retreat if hard pressed... however we will allow any nation with which we are not currently at war with to traverse the straits, however all warships must have guns capped and FireControl shut down, unless they are an ally.

***Internal Memo***
Due to the stupidity of a senior commander in the CCC forces, who has since been executed, our forces in Northern Morocco did not ship with any anti air weaponry. This has since been fixed. Integrate your antiair guns into the defensive matrix.

We also wish to know if the excavation for the foundations for the submarine nets has been completed yet on moroccan side of the strait.

***END***
***REPLY***
Foundations complete, hydraulic instalation progressing as planned.
Air Defenses integrated fully
***END***

The Gibraltar Straits remain a rather critical point, and control of them is rather easy to effect [url=due to the particular nature of the strait. [/url] I want contingency plans on my desk by Tuesday on how to a.) eliminate the fixed defenses in a hurry and b.) sneak submarines through safely and undetected by specific incident. In the mean time, I don't want to hear any more complaints about Order 9183-529-32. It stands until further notice.

Citibank Corps check this out please... http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2072022#2072022

Kisnesia will help its ally CHS CitiBank Corp defend its homeland.

Had Macabees not attacked, they would have been allowed to pass through the straits unaffected. However, due to Macabees' agression, Kisnesian lives will be lost defending the straits.

Due to the extreme proximity of the Straits to the Azores, 10 of Kisnesia's 15 double-Carrier battle groups have been relocated to the straits. Troops have been called off the Franco-spanish border, and are reinforcing CCC positions in Gibraltar and North Africa.

FLTCOM
Sir, reports from maccabees indicate we will soon be under attack from their forces. Gibraltar could possibly be lost.

NAVHQ
Very well, what is the state of the submarine nets accross the strait?

FLTCOM
70% complete sir.

NAVHQ
very well, deploy all nets, to the best of your ability (ooc/ this causes a 70% occlusion to the strait ooc\), continue construction of the nets at all possible speed. Activate all AAA, AAradar and change azimuth on the naval guns to fire at maccabee forces. Activate command controlled mines in the harbour and strait (coded broadcast to our allies the frequency to avoid being destroyed) Activate the 1 hour counters for facility destruction (these are reset every 1/2 hour, with a 2 minute window to reset them then, if they arnt reset at this time they cannot be stopped from exploding)

FLTCOM (5 min later)
all instructions complied with, what about merchant vessels attempting to transverse the straits.

NAVHQ
its a warzone, they will only be transporting material for our enemies.


ooc/ i think this means the straits are effectively closed to all shipping for at least a few days (especially if i lose my command post :-) )

MedFltCom
sir, message received from CCC, they appear to be under heavy attack by maccabee. They have blocked the straits off and ar requesting assistance.

CentCom.
Divert NavFlt1 from tripoli to the strait. Dont let anything stop you, consider it SNAPCOUNT status, all conventional weapons are released to the fleet commander.
Surge NAVFLT3 from Alexandria to support, mobilise ASSGRP3 with them. We will retake gibraltar if we need to.

OOC: Armacor, you should know that I am an ally of The Macabees, he hasn't asked for me to DoW any nations yet, but if he does, your forces will be passing by all of my Naval Bases except my Atlantic ones, I control Barcelona, Malta, Tunis, Algiers, The French Med. Coast (Except Toulon), the Balearics, Algiers, and Mers-el-Kebir (Outside of Oran)

ooc// an ally is an ally...
and i am sending a large fleet (3 actually)
(9aircraft carriers of one type or another, 8 battle cruisers, 13 AEGIS cruisers, 8 destroyers, 8 frigates, 10 subs, 20 transports)

***Comunication to allies***
We thank our allies for the assistance. We hope to still be resisting when you arrive. However enemy forces have pushed us back from the penninsula and we are in need of immidiate assistance.
***END***
***GIBHQ***
We are taking a pounding out here... most of the perimeter guns are destroyed, the wall is almost breached in 4 places.
***END***
***NAVHQ***
replace ChloroFlouroCarbon Canisters in the Airconditioning with FAE canisters. Activate timers on FAE roof dispensors (they look like Smoke Alarms) Fall back from perimeter defenses to secondary wall. Hold there at all costs. Seal Mountain entry. Set timers on the thermite on the gate hydralics.
***END***

ooc// btw only CCC, armacor and Kisnesia forces, and the fearful (but they are a fair way off) are able to transverse the straits without hitting mines, or the nets...

this may change with more help...

ooc// btw only CCC, armacor and Kisnesia forces, and the fearful (but they are a fair way off) are able to transverse the straits without hitting mines, or the nets...

this may change with more help...

How would only they be able to, a small force could probably get through, and your mining them is probably going to bring in other nations against you.

a small force, moving slowly, with minesweepers. yes. but then you come under fire from the shore batteries. (dont forget the nets either, designed to catch subs, can foul props on surface ships)
Also it looks like there are two med factions (who would want to get thru here)... those with you and those with me... so i dont think i will get any more hurt... :-), anyway at this rate gibraltar will disappear...

True, just saying, if your allies can get through, another nation, with a small group could as well

allies can get through as they have the command frequency to disable certain mines, along a certain path

So can minesweepers ahead of a massed battle group :twisted:

i thought minesweepers had to move slowly to not hit them (after all they use sonar, which doesnt work at high speeds). Then they will be under fire from shore batteries.

i thought minesweepers had to move slowly to not hit them (after all they use sonar, which doesnt work at high speeds). Then they will be under fire from shore batteries.

I believe all are Scenarios using Minesweepers would of course take into account that either our Air Forces, Army, or a large Naval Force (Both of us have mentioned a large battlelfleet) would have pounded the Coastal Batteries into dust

pretty much at that point CCC is out of the war and will cede all its forces to an ally, loss of primary facilities at gibraltar, loss of all control over the straits, pushed into a desert, next to an opponent...

ooc// come on maccabees log on... i want to see your casulty rates... (do you continue the advance... i assume yes, but i aint gonna blow up this fortress without being sure...

OOC: He can't get on a lot, when he is you'll know. Once we work out the details though I may be in command of his forces when he isn't on. But you'll have to wait a while (probably until tommorow afternoon, in Boston anyway) for him

ooc/ fair enough... i still want to see tho :-)

ooc/ ok i thought i posted here that ships were on the way, oh well i know i posted somewhere.

ic/
***TO CCC Command forces***
This is Armacor task forces 1 and 3, able to conduct flight ops immedately, what do you want us to do?, Assault Group 3 is ready to deploy as well.
***END***

ooc/
fleets are as follows:
5 Nimitz carrier
4 Kitty Hawk carrier
8 Razorback battle cruiser
13 Ticonderoga cruiser
4 Spruance destroyers
18 Arleigh Burke destroyers
8 Vista frigates
8 Los angeles 688 Mk II subs
2 SeaWolf Subs
10 Tobler Troop Transports (1024 men each)
10 GateCrasher Assault Ships (102.4 (on average) armored vehicles each)

ooc/ to SnS, does new land belonging now to Maccabees equate to his homeland? ie if i get armacor to deploy on the penninsula is that an invasion?

ic/
Armacor Fleets, please conduct unrestrained conventional warfare ops against maccabee forces on the Iberian penninsula.
Deployment for land forces will be forthcoming...

ooc/ to SnS, does new land belonging now to Maccabees equate to his homeland? ie if i get armacor to deploy on the penninsula is that an invasion?

ic/
Armacor Fleets, please conduct unrestrained conventional warfare ops against maccabee forces on the Iberian penninsula.
Deployment for land forces will be forthcoming...

An immediate DoW would result from me if there was a Land attack against the Iberian, as long as the fleets or bases are not too close to my areas, and the bombers don't go near me, I won't DoW, it's expected in any war.

errr... i think he meant the bit that connects spain to gibraltar, not all of spain...

which is what i will do.

errr... i think he meant the bit that connects spain to gibraltar, not all of spain...

which is what i will do.

If it was owned or controlled by CCC at first, then no, I wouldn't DoW you for that, as long as there are no massive offensives aimed at the heart of the Iberian

well its against all forces that have moved into previously CCC territory as well as artillery and other forces (airbases and such) that are being used to fire into CCC territory... ie if his artillery hasnt moved from inside his original border i will still bomb the crap out of it.

well its against all forces that have moved into previously CCC territory as well as artillery and other forces (airbases and such) that are being used to fire into CCC territory... ie if his artillery hasnt moved from inside his original border i will still bomb the crap out of it.

As long as a major push is not made into his territory not taken from CCC, I won't DoW (A land push). Of course, if I have a full Alliance with him, then by tommorow we will probably be at war, or if the Straits of Gibraltar situation is not resolved I may independentaly DoW at a later date

np... i just like to know the extent of the war before i get in it.. :-)

***Priority Broadcast, open, on all channels***
Armacor satcom reports multiple nuclear detonations against civilian targets in france. Suspected originator is Exetonia. Radiation levels are low. We propose halting this war, at this point, and redeploying to meet this new, greater threat. We also propose unrestricted access to the strait for all forces agreeing to this proposal, with CCC authorisation of course.
***END***

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2083026#2083026

OOC: Why did you post here..and not in my thread? Oh well...I never saw any attacks so what casualties? I also see you didn't read my invasion thread or the troops im sending so here...

IC:

Addendum to Imperial Directive No.1

High Command and Imperial Staff has come to the conclusion that current forces are not sufficient for a prolonged war in Europe. Thus we have released Heeresgruppe B.

Heeregruppe B- General-feldmarchall Fedor von Bock
-4th Heeresarmee
>>>5 Hereeskorps with 20 Infantry divisions
>>>3 Artilleriekorps with 15 artillery divisions
-5th Heeresarmee
>>>7 Hereeskorps with 28 Infantry divisions
>>>6 Artilleriekorps with 30 artillery divisions
-3rd Panzergruppe
>>>3 Panzerkorps with 9 Panzer Divisions
>>>5 Assaultkorps with 15 assault divisions
>>>4 Panzerheerkorps with 20 PZH divisions

Luftflotte II-General der Luftwaffe Adolf Galland
>>>70 Fighter Squadrons, 2,100 fighters
>>>10 DB Squadrons, 500 DB's

An additional 50 million tons of food and 11 million gallons of petrol will be sent monthly.



Imperial Directive No. 3

Forces of the Macabean Wermacht prepare for war! Your training will not prove invincecible for the upcoming operation!

Operation Mercury

Heeresgruppe A is to ultimately sieze and hold the Gibraltar as well as Andalucia, Heulva, Algarve (Portugal) and Alentejo (Portugal).

The 1st Heeresarmee and the 2nd Heeresarmees, along with the 1st Panzergruppe are to advance through the Albacete-Antequera high way. The 3rd Heeresarmee and the 2nd Panzergruppe are to advance along the Tomelloso-Lebrija highway. Upon arrival they are to link up in a line running from Sanlucar to Malaga, thereby cutting off the Gibraltar without actually touching CHS territory.

By then air fields at Lebrija, Montellano, Moron de la Frontera and Peunte Genil, already technically in Macabean hands, after the fruitless advance of 15 days ago, would be full of Luftflotte I.

One day after D-Day is to begin, H-Hour being 0500 hours. The 30,000 artillery guns are to pound the peninsula for an hour while Luftflotte I is to give them hell for 4 hours straight. Gibraltar City is to be completely carpet bombed and destroyed by a contigent of 1,000 B-52's protected by 500 SS-102 fighters.

Under this cover the entire Heeresgruppe is to advance into the peninsula destroying all opposition before CHS is to transport units across the straits.

I give you 7 days to complete the entire occupation, before I begin to sign a treaty with CHS, which I hope will work. If not Luftflotte I is to pound the northern tip of Morroco and slowly work thereway southward.

Your rear flank will be protected by units of Heeresgruppe B occupying Andalucia and southern Portugal.

Intelligence
Aerial recon. has seen massive fortifications off the coast of Gibraltar. Therefore I have put priority for 1,000 dive bombers and 500 B-52's protected by 700 fighters to pound those until they are captured or destroyed.

[signed]Finegold III

____________________________

To: CHS
From: The Empire

Your colony of the Gibraltar poses as an immediate threat to our survival, thus we will officially declare war on your nation. You can consider it being immediate.

To not further prolong the war between us I urge you to drop claim to Gibraltar and conclude a peace treaty.

[singed]General-feldmarchall Erich von Manstein


OOC: The troops are in positions (I wrote this only about 30 minutes after Directive 3 but this is really supposed to be for about 6 o'clock Pacific Time)

IC:

At 0450 hours 30,000 guns were loaded by their crews, with their shells. Sergeants ran back and forth yelling their men into position, as the armor were lined up in columns and rows.

Above them, the entire Luftflotte I were flying towards their targets.

Then it struck 5.... 30,000 guns belched flames into the skies, as in the distance the sound of destruction could be heard. With most of the enemy armies in Afrika, the Wermacht expected little resistance.

The 3 Heeresarmees and 2 Panzergruppes struck south towards their targets knocking out border outposts. The sheer firepower of over 2 million army men and 3,000 tanks was more than enough to overwhelm the enemy, not to mention the thousands of assault artillery and the 30,000 fixed artillery guns.


OOC: Those were all posted yesterday... also I intercepted those 500 Kisnesian fighters with my own 2,100 in Luftflotte I... I also have 5,000 B-52's bombing the hell of you and 2,100 divebombers helping..so why dont you post casualties?

he did... something about a fighting retreat...

The High Seas Fleet has also been dispatched to the waters just to the east of Gibraltar, under the protection of Luftflotte II and coastal guns... they will be bombarding the peninsula almost perpetually...

High Seas Fleet - Admiral Tirpitz
5 HMS Marx Dreadnoughts
5 Rommel Class BB's
2 Halder Class Pocket Battleships
10 Manstein Class Destroyers
20 Clauswitz Class Frigates
20 Seydlitz class Cruisers
30 Patrol Boats
20 Minesweepers
25 Mine and Net Layers
15 Tankers
3 Nimitz Class Carriers
50 Sea Wolf Class Submarines


Luftflotte II-General der Luftwaffe Adolf Galland
>>>70 Fighter Squadrons, 2,100 fighters
>>>10 DB Squadrons, 500 DB's

From: Allied Diplomatic Office
To: CCC


Greetings from the Sword and Sheild, we are informing you we consider your mining the Straits of Gibraltar an illegal action, by cutting off our routes of trade. The Straits of Gibraltar are our only water-link to our main supply sources, and we have been forced to construct a supply line across Africa, however the majority of our Navy Battlefleets remain in the Mediterranean and we need to reinforce our Atlantic positions. If we are not allowed passage, we deman the cession of Gibraltar to ourselves or The Macabees to ensure free and open routes for all nations. If you do not comply with either de-mining the Straits, or alternatively ceded Gibraltar, we will consider in violation of international law and issue a Decleration of War.

ok
page 1, about 2/3 way down...

CCC has retreated off the penn. into the mountain and set explosives...

OOC: Oh, sorry..my mistake...I didn't see that

IC:

Manstein broke through the door and immediate began to pound his generals with questions...

"800 dead!! In just this small space of time... the 500 fighters should be routed easily but high command has sent Luftflotte II to aid our fighters over the peninsula..."

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On the peninsula the 30,000 artillery guns, 5,000 B-52's and 2,100 Dive Bombers were creating hell over enemy positions, hammering known fortifications and carpet bombing concentrations of enemy people.

Even with the mounting casualties Heeresgruppe A continued down the peninsula.. There was no way they could stand up to over 2 million infantry and 3,000 tanks, aided by over 3,000 assault guns... there was just no way...

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The High Seas Fleet, under the protection of coastal guns, begun to pound installations from afar... but they were weary of a naval battle... High Command has still not dispatched reinforcements for the Kriegsmarine.

ok my understanding of the situation is:
CCC is basically trapped in a fully wired mountain, making a fighting retreat and blowing up everything he loses.
Kisnesia has sent ~30 aircraft carriers to support the defense
I have sent 4 battle groups to assist, details up thread.
theFearful has sent a fleet dont know where it is...

oh and a *nuclear* war is occuring in france... refer to exetonias posts for more info...

ok my understanding of the situation is:
CCC is basically trapped in a fully wired mountain, making a fighting retreat and blowing up everything he loses.
Kisnesia has sent ~30 aircraft carriers to support the defense
I have sent 4 battle groups to assist, details up thread.
theFearful has sent a fleet dont know where it is...

The mountain that makes up the Rock of Gibraltar could be wired that way I suppose, and a tough nut to crack, but a rapid assault across the bay into the harbor would be what I recommend becuase if he has drilled into the mountain only a very long and sustained assault with large casualties will dislodge him.

as i understand it from talks on icq it is supposed to be a cross between the traditional gibraltar (that no-one has ever taken off the british) and cheyenne mountain in america.

as i understand it from talks on icq it is supposed to be a cross between the traditional gibraltar (that no-one has ever taken off the british) and cheyenne mountain in america.

Well, no one has actually made a serious attempt on Gibraltar since it was fortified either... But I still say taking the harbor and city should come first, then starve out the defenders in the mountain.

Kisnesia has sent ~30 aircraft carriers to support the defense
.........
theFearful has sent a fleet dont know where it is...

Sent 20, and 3 have been sunk.


theFearful is out of South Africa... He'll be a while.

OOC: I can't believe you have 30 aircraft carriers... unless that's all you have.... I was yelled at for trying to have even 12 aircraft carriers.

IC: 12 fighters were reported downed... 3 without repair....

by the way CCC is in exams today... so might be on later (briefly) - if you were wondering where he was...

ok... i have 10-15% aircraft losses, 1 cruiser sunk and have expended 30-40% of anti air ordinance.

OOC: Im still guessing that CCC is now tied up in the rocky Gibraltar itself correct?

IC: With CCC's forces tied up Luftflotte I, protected by Luftflotte II, began to direct all fire against the rocky outcut of Gibraltar. The 30,000 artillery guns were quickly set to perpetually pound the small amount of land left to conquer. It would be carpet bombed, shot to hell, destroyed, whatever it took to neutralize it...

______________________________

TO: CCC
FROM: Manstein

I urge you to pull out.. you have the freedom to leave, I will not attempt to stop you. I will not continue the war against Africa, in fact I wish to conclude an armstice to prevent further fued in this part of the world, although France will be our next target...

OOC: I can't believe you have 30 aircraft carriers... unless that's all you have.... I was yelled at for trying to have even 12 aircraft carriers.

IC: 12 fighters were reported downed... 3 without repair....

OOC: Willing to take down numbers of carriers to make a better RP. However, we do have the funds and have actually purchased these carriers. What do you think? We will reduce our 17 (after 3 lost) to 12 if you want.

OOC: Oh no... i mean if your qualified...its probably since I don't really have a base on "naval economy" so to speak... go ahead keep your 30.. I dont want to ruin anything... and it doesn't matter to me since I have land bases which I can replenish or reinforce with aircraft and 3 aircraft carriers of my own

OOC: Im still guessing that CCC is now tied up in the rocky Gibraltar itself correct?

IC: With CCC's forces tied up Luftflotte I, protected by Luftflotte II, began to direct all fire against the rocky outcut of Gibraltar. The 30,000 artillery guns were quickly set to perpetually pound the small amount of land left to conquer. It would be carpet bombed, shot to hell, destroyed, whatever it took to neutralize it...

______________________________

TO: CCC
FROM: Manstein

I urge you to pull out.. you have the freedom to leave, I will not attempt to stop you. I will not continue the war against Africa, in fact I wish to conclude an armstice to prevent further fued in this part of the world, although France will be our next target...

Out of the deeps have I come unto thee... hear my voice.

Not too far from the mid-Atlantic ridge and 1100 miles from Gibraltar, a great welling of the ocean parted to reveal a domed surface beneath, a surface in which many holes opened. Great gouts of flame erupted, and a cloud of smoke covered the vessel. Tiny winged darts emerged from the cloud, which began to drift upon the breeze, revealing nothing but a disturbance left upon the waves.

After 400 miles, the darts left their wings behind, arrowing towards the strait like flying worms; detonating overhead the positions of the massed Maccabean artillery, the missiles dropped 70,000 pounds of cluster submunitions in short order, each package perfectly capable of eliminating an artillery piece, or perhaps merely severely damaging and disabling several. The precision strike came with no prior warning, and was one of three of similar size launched at once.

30 minutes after the first - just before the first volleys had dropped their wings behind and accelerated enormously - a second trio of volleys were launched, from somewhat different positions of similar distance, carefully guided into Maccabean ground forces.

Then Leviathan went back to sleep. For now.

((OOC: 30 is actually a good number for a large Naval Country (I spend 80% of my manpower and 70% of my budget on it, I maintain a fleet of 16 Fleet Carriers, 32 Light Carriers, and about 98 Escort Carriers, granted that is my Wartime one). The only problem is it's very unrealistic to deploy 30 Fleet Carriers in one place at one time, they become huge targets and if they are found, they are easily and quickly destroyed, cuasing a catastrophy for your Navy. ))

OOC: LOL HOW THE HELL AM I SUPPOSED TO COMBAT THAT!! hehe

IC: The missiles were terryfying, 5,000 pieces were reported destroyed, 3,000 severely damaged but fixable in the next four hours. Startled high command ordered the immediate launching of 4,000 long range missiles into Gibraltar and another 20,000 artillery pieces to start pounding the "rock".

Also, for the first times in Macabean warfare, the building of large concrete bunkers were enforced on offensives.... manufacturers came up with the perfect solution...

portable concrete bunkers, which could be dismantled in 30 minutes and rebuilt in an hour. 35,000 were immediately dispatched to the area and assembled....

It wouldn't stop many of the missiles but it would prevent the whole destrution of the artillery piece...

Also, some 15,000 crew members were killed immediately.

___________________________________

OOC: This is unknown to most people unless you somehow spot them...

IC:
20 submarines slipped under the water, searching for the missile launcher... it was unknown what it was exactly but they would find it...

All of a sudden the large shape of a gigantic underwater "object" could be seen in the distance... All subs, frightened, quickly fired 60 Mk.70 (Macabean type) torpedoes, carrying highly penetrating and explosive warheads.

The subs scared of a gigantic counter attack turned around without seeing the damage done and when they were over 50km away they finally broke radio silence and asked for reinforcements...

OOC: I'm assuming you would have informed me of your operation

IC: Atlantic Command had recieved several transmissions from Iberian command of the attack on The Macabees forces bombarding Gibraltar. The attack had been devestating, and Iberian Command had offered to transfer 550 105mm Howitzers and 150 200mm Howitzers to replace some of their losses, but they also looked beyond that. If The Macabees could be threatened by this weapon, so could Allied bases and operations, therefore it was decided to attempt to locate this weapon. But orders did not entail it's destruction.

However Atlantic Command had only limited resources with which to do this, a huge number of it's ships were either stuck in the Mediterranean with the Straits of Gibraltar blocked off, or supporting the campaigns in West Africa, leaving only the North Atlantic squadrons available, coincidentally the same ones that were supporting SnS allies and keeping an eye on a potential foe. So Atlantic Command could only send a small mixed force, with orders to find, but not destroy this ship/weapon. It is speculated a large Carrier group launched the strike, but information from the Macabeans suggests it may be some kind of submerged platform.

Ships sent
1 Los Angeles class SSN
1 Sea Wolf class SSN
2 Arleigh Burke class Destroyers
1 Spruance class Destroyers
1 Ticonderoga class Cruiser (w/AEGIS)

Also two Athena class Light Carriers are available to support the search should it prove fruitless or the strange vessel is found.

***From: Seawolf SSBN Kuala***
***To: MedFltCom***
Multiple torpedos in the water, sonar counts in excess of 40 locked on us, attempting to eva#(*&#^D*SV*O%&$VZ()(8f7g4x6ca
***MESSAGE ENDS***

***FROM: MedFltCom***
***TO: Seawolf SSBN Kuala***
Please repeat last, message garbled by underwater explosions.
***END***
(ooc/ obviously no response was received.)

Depths of the Atlantic:

The Barracuda submarine*, king of the deeps, the class known as the "Thousand Fathom Father," one of two currently deployed to the Atlantic Ocean, began to notice substantial intereference patterns from above in the background noise. Analysis and depth of the disturbances indicated possible submarine contacts to the expert systems and crew, operating in near-complete silence from a half mile beneath the waves. Quietly it paced behind and below the disturbance.

Multiple torpedo pings, sir, signalled a sonar officer, reporting bearing. Contacts breaking off and turning about, probable Seawolf, reading multiple echos, large group. They're running scared, sir.

The captain grinned. If those are allies of ours, they shouldn't be frightened and packing together in these waters without our being informed, he signed back.

Floater a wired bobbing mine from aft tubes towards their depth and float fore torpedo tubes reverse fired and delayed fuse, then head starboard and down ten degreesat tactical speed; belly out 500' further down.

Prepping tubes, sir, mine launched.

Sir, reading explosions, suspect their target has been destroyed.

Sir, confirming torpedo launches on reverse fire delayed fuse float 8.

Vectoring down and away at tactical speed, sir.

They shouldn't notice us down here, but it's good to keep an eye out. Detonate and launch on the same command; let's spook them good. The torpedos should be coming in from behind them, as if fired by their target. Prep... wait for it... mark! Pull the wires. A bright red light reading "MARK" flashed in each fire center.

Just as the submarines above began to pass by, the mine detonated - probably not in their midst as hoped, but certainly nearby them, and they would suddenly hear - should they not be fleeing in a loud deaf panic - a half dozen torpedo contacts coming in square on their tails from behind them amidst a burst of air bubbles.

Well done, crew. With any luck, they'll need clean underwear after that.

*Which has a estimated total of 6 vertical missile tubes, incidentally. This is a hunter, not an artillery post... and dang, these subs cost me a pretty penny to design and build. Check here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4650&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=200) for the sort of intel estimates you might get on its cost and capabilities... which should tell you why I only have a few of these...

OOC: Sorry I'm not to good with naval war... so Im guessing those torpedoes would sink subs?

IC:

3 Class Seawolfs were destroyed upon contact...the others heard a loud boom and immediately requested aid from the High Seas Fleet. It was denies and the subs continued to flee north after there attack on the mystic figure beyond the waters.

OOC: Sorry I'm not to good with naval war... so Im guessing those torpedoes would sink subs?

IC:

3 Class Seawolfs were destroyed upon contact...the others heard a loud boom and immediately requested aid from the High Seas Fleet. It was denies and the subs continued to flee north after there attack on the mystic figure beyond the waters.

OOC: Quite possibly, yes. It would be something of a tricky hit-or-miss maneuver - think of remotely triggering rocket launchers you left propped behind a rock and setting off a small bundle of TNT in the middle of the road as the enemy runs by in the middle of the night. If you're good and your timing is on, it can take out some of them without risking your hide in the slightest.

The Barracuda captain smiled to himself as he keyed in his interim report for the encrypted message bouy dropoff.

I have taken initiative in attacking what appeared to be enemy submarine activity. On my authority, at least two submarines out of up to two dozen, tentatively identified as probable Seawolf or Virginia class vessels, were sunk in an ambush carried out after the group destroyed a third party submarine. Detailed logs of the incident are enclosed. I expect either a medal or a court-martial when I return; recommend unmanned deep-ocean probe investigation of the debris to confirm details of the incident when possible.

The subs came limping back to friendly waters, off Malaga. They had no idea wether their attack was succesful...all they knew was that they had lost three subs and many comrades...

Imperial Directive No. 4

Concerning the High Seas Fleet we have dispatched the following as reinforcements:

>>20 Class Wolf Submarines
>>5 Rommel Class Battleships
>>15 Petrol Tankers
>>10 Seydlitz Class Cruisers
>>10 Halder Class Pocket Battleships
>>3 Nimitz Class Carriers

Also, Heeresarmee Gibraltar, the same exact replica of the 1st Heeresarmee will arrive at Malaga tomorrow and will be the army occupying the Gibraltar after the "war".

Futher instructions will follow soon...
[signed]Finegold III

*Captain Dubson rubbed his eyes as he stared at the map readout of the Atlantic Ocean. The task force had split into four columns, his ship, the ANS Russels an Arleigh Burke class Destroyer, had been assigned the western-central route, with the Los Angeles class sub ANS Dreadnaught to find whatever it was had attacked The Macabees outside Gibraltar.*

*They had been going along at 12 knots with Active sonar enabled for over 4 days, but still had found nothing. Word came down from the Diocletian that Macabean Submarines had encountered this "craft" and been severaly damaged. Coincidentally his ship was the closest to where they had reported contact, and would be passing over it within several hours. The Dreadnaught was stalking out there somewhere as well, most likely ahead of the Russels, but they hadn't made contact with her since the last checkup, the next one was still two hours away, meanwhile he couldn't try to directly contact it, otherwise the Dreadnaught might as well have been using it's Active Sonar.*

*Again the captain just looked up at the map, the vast expanse and the small dots indicating Allied ships, and more indicating possible positions for the "craft". He doubted very much he would find the damn thing before it moved away*

Admiral Caballero received a radio transmition reporting the advance of "several" allied submarines and ships heading towards the reported kill area. In minutes he shouted into the radio, "180 degree turn, full ahead! I want this entire damn sub fleet to do it!" He waved to his radio man and the sailor quickly belched at the maching, "Rondevouz point, 12... 16...52 E... we will link up with reinforcements here... 12....16...54E... reported enemy sighting 14....13...24N...

The 17 sub combat team and the 20 reinforcement subs formed two seperate wolf packs, scanning the seas for enemies, ready to launch torpedoes on sight, before their enemies could react...

ooc//ok... it looks like a lot has happened... well finished exams now :-)

ic//
Sir, outer defense does not report anymore. We consider it likely that all personel have perished outside the walls..

Very well... detonate the explosives in all external facilites, once the CCTV indicates enemy forces will suffer the most casualties, include those buried under the perimeter fences (ooc/ yes some were already set off, these are buried quite deeply, designed to either destroy tanks or prevent them moving accross the broken landscape), we must hold out until our allies can help us. How are our forces in Morocco doing?

They are being squeezed by SnS, but seem to be holding for now.

Very well, report in when enemy forces again reach the gates.

ooc/ has anyone read the magician series by raymond Feist?, im thinking that city which fought to the last, and then was fired by its inhabitants... :-)

OOC:

BTW I have no intention of invading Africa, in fact I wanted to conclude a treaty after the capture of Gibraltar to open the straight and to end hostilities.

Also, just to let you know, my land forces are well far off from the actual perimeter, right now im bombarding you with 35,000 artillery guns, 5,000 B-52's and about 4,200 SS-101's (dive bombers), protected by 4,200 SS-102's (air superiority)... I also have quite a naval fleet hitting you too...

I never wanted to wage a bloody all out assault on Gibraltar, it would be mad, I would lose well over 10,000 soldiers in the attack, wounded and dead. I meant to bombard the heck out of you and conclude some sort of armstice to prevent further bloodshed, for I have other targets to the north.

ok... i might have signed an alliance with you in the beginning... but instead will have to deal with combat...

OOC: Just reminding you, while you have a safe haven in North Africa at the moment since we aren't at war, if you don't respond to my ultimatum I'll be forced to DoW you and move towards Casablanca.

ooc/ SnS, you will have a response by tomorrow morning (i hope, i am negociating for missles from armacor)

ok... i might have signed an alliance with you in the beginning... but instead will have to deal with combat...


OOC: Actually a concluding armstice would offer a good respite for us both since we both, obviously, have other aims than to invade or counter-invade eachother.

IC:

Order to Luftflotte I and Luftflotte II

Keep up with the bombings of the Gibraltar, our enemies will soon fall!!!

Also, keep up the strafing and bombing of enemy ships in the channel, it will hamper their ability to wage war and will help our ultimate aim of success and the partial unification of Spain!!

[signed]Kesselring, Galland

i am assuming that my surface harbour facilites are totally destroyed, most of the external fortifications are destroyed and some internals need rapairs. But ooc we aint gonna surrender to air/artillery :-)

i am assuming that my surface harbour facilites are totally destroyed, most of the external fortifications are destroyed and some internals need rapairs. But ooc we aint gonna surrender to air/artillery :-)

OOC: very well...

IC:

Finally Manstein gave the word for an advance!

Panzergruppe I (3,000 tanks, 400,000 armored infantry and 3,000 assault guns) began its advance into the rock, the finaly layer of the enemy on the peninsula.

Most of the external protections were disabled due to the heavy bombardment resulting from the artillery and aircraft, thus the initial going was quite easy. All 35,000 pieces still boomed at the core of the fortress but now the dive bombers were centering on a support role and the bombers were totally called off.

ooc// i have aquired a lot of JAXMI2 missiles, 10 are being delivered via submarine (as that is the only viable entrance now) for your purposes.

ooc//
ok when the missiles arrive (unknown), we are deploying them in the roof of the facility, as a final solution, if we fall here. i have been told that these 10 missiles will melt the island to the bedrock.

Admiral Caballero received a radio transmition reporting the advance of "several" allied submarines and ships heading towards the reported kill area. In minutes he shouted into the radio, "180 degree turn, full ahead! I want this entire damn sub fleet to do it!" He waved to his radio man and the sailor quickly belched at the maching, "Rondevouz point, 12... 16...52 E... we will link up with reinforcements here... 12....16...54E... reported enemy sighting 14....13...24N...

The 17 sub combat team and the 20 reinforcement subs formed two seperate wolf packs, scanning the seas for enemies, ready to launch torpedoes on sight, before their enemies could react...

First, a lone whale seemed to appear in the distance to the reinforcements en route, well before their planned meeting point... perhaps a whale, perhaps not. It clicked like a whale, moved like a whale, and moaned like a whale, surfaced, and then dove again, making strange sounds, as if suffering from whale indigestion.

Then, scant minutes later, distant thrumming contacts... from ahead in a wide arc. Engine noise, what could well be active sonar pings from an unfamiliar system, and loud shipboard chatter in Ukrainian*, from a hundred different bearings along about 100 degrees of their foreward arc. At times audible, perhaps, are the words "Shkval," "Seawolf," and "Zovash zostrovia." Distinctly audible as the sources of the noise begin to approach the 20,000 yard mark is the click-chang of older torpedo tubes loading, with barked orders standing out from an overall low level of chatter that appear to be... well, if any slavic language experts are on board the Seawolf class submarines, they may well make out that the barked orders have to do with readying fore torpedo tubes one through ten and preparing to fire them on the mark.

Behind those and possibly lost by the Seawolf crews in the noise, are several quieter sets of slow moving, very quiet thrums.

And the six Mantas quietly maneuvered at 500 fathoms (2000') depth, waiting for some coordinating signal that would alert their systems as they ran silent, moving into estimated positions and preparing...


And then, west-northwest of Portugal, 500-800 miles away from their last strikes, Leviathan rose again. This time the darts had no wings, and flew the six hundred to six hundred fifty miles to their targets - massed Maccabean artillery positions again - in under fifteen minutes. This time it was not just cluster munitions, but included as well were high explosive incendiary rounds not split into submunitions - the 700 pound warhead of the supersonic missiles* acting directly. 90 of the 300 missiles fired were such, with the remainder being the dispersed cluster rounds that had so devastated Maccabean artillery positions.

*Not the official language of Tahar Joblis, in case you are going to jump to conclusions.
**Rated to penetrate 19' of concrete before detonation, incidentally - unlike, say, cluster submunitions scattered before and above the target. Not that that has much specific relevance, given the time of warning involved and the choice of target.

Missiles struck once again, but this time the Macabee artillery was ready. A secret command had gone out before the operations around Madrid to dig in all the artillery and building small shelters for them until movement, which would not be for many more weeks, until Madrid fell.

For 300 artillery pieces the shelters failed as the missiles just poured through, killing crews and destroying guns. But the other shelters either held or took most of the damage.

By the end of the attack the artillery would be replaced and the shelters damaged or destroyed rebuilt.

Even if it cost millions it was worth it for the Leviathan would never again be able to pull of such horrible casualties.


OOC: 15,000 men were lost after the last attack but only 900 died this time.

OOC: I guess you don't want to respond to my final moves on Gibraltar...

IC: The panzergruppe made quick pace but then Manstein ordered a partial withdrawal... unlike previously planned only 30,000 of the panzerheer infantry would move in with support from 50 Pz.VII Nebuchanezzars and 10 Pz. VII Cougar's.

The rest headed back out and awaited their time if needed for combat.

The 30,000 men, all formed into the new 1st Panzerheer Division (which is only temporary, the 10,000 extra will besent back to the 2nd), kept up their steady advance, passing up destroyed targets. In the distance they could see the rubble that the docks were now... destroyed by Macabean firepower... a beautiful site after the destruction wreaked by TJ and his missiles... it was time for the end in Southern Spain!

First, a lone whale seemed to appear in the distance to the reinforcements en route, well before their planned meeting point... perhaps a whale, perhaps not. It clicked like a whale, moved like a whale, and moaned like a whale, surfaced, and then dove again, making strange sounds, as if suffering from whale indigestion... (etc etc *&snip* from previous page)

OOC: So... erhm... how did your sub captains respond to this? And when will CHS ... well, act?

Atlantic Fleet Command Center:

"Large enemy sub group has been sighted, (coordinates, heading), local hunter pack is intending to spring an ambush. Jessica, those placers and headers do not sound like the same group to me, they'd have to be following a crazy route at high speed to be the same one... I want the first group tracked down and a full anti-submarine battle group prepared to intercept this second group should the ambush fail. I also want intel on who they are, and I want a statement ready to issue condemning the vicious indiscriminate submarine warfare by them on civilian and neutral shipping as well as scientific missions. Double all intel on the situation to Kisnesian contacts ASAP, and I want both Barracudas lurking ready in Central-East Atlantic region; if they are using standard Seawolf style equipment and weapons loadouts, Barracudas will drive them up the wall without much risk on our part. I want a Trench-Crawler science probe over here-" He tapped the map. "ASAP to examine the downed submarines from the first incident."

"Care to take a deep breath and repeat that, sir?"

OOC: I dont understand the trap or the post on the last page... all I understand is that you can sense my first wolf pack using sonar and that your loading a series of torpedoes... and then in the second post your going to spring some sort of trap... I dont see how my force is directly affected by this and how I couldn't hunt for other ships while I slowly advance towards your trap...

OOC: I dont understand the trap or the post on the last page... all I understand is that you can sense my first wolf pack using sonar and that your loading a series of torpedoes... and then in the second post your going to spring some sort of trap... I dont see how my force is directly affected by this and how I couldn't hunt for other ships while I slowly advance towards your trap...
OOC:
OK ... hold on, I can see I need to explicitly dissect and explain, OOCly speaking, exactly how the trap operates and what's really going on in the post on page 4. I'm going to pull the last couple posts out to make the thread more readable and explain the post right here. You see, it's not a "I see you and I'm setting a trap for you down the road a hundred miles." It's a very immediate trap, sprung over a course of minutes rather than hours; you're highly unlikely to sight any other ships with that sub group during that time, and if your captains' response to the preliminary stages of the trap is to sail on straight through the apparent enemies... well, say so. It's one way of managing it. The post about it on page 5 is more or less me finding an IC excuse to remind you that you needed to reply.

First, a lone whale seemed to appear in the distance to the reinforcements en route, well before their planned meeting point... perhaps a whale, perhaps not. It clicked like a whale, moved like a whale, and moaned like a whale, surfaced, and then dove again, making strange sounds, as if suffering from whale indigestion.

OK. This is, naturally, the key to the trap:
We have a very sneaky Commodore Maran in a one man scout solar sub - the "whale".
He's sending biologic-sounding active sonar pings out, and he sees about 20 subs moving together.
He's heard about this big group operating nearby, and there happen to be six Manta submarines and three Otter submersible vessels within reasonable gathering and striking distance - no more than 20 miles or so from the Seawolf group - so he gets the bright idea to try and set an ambush (he's very confident in NDOTJ submarine superiority - perhaps justifiably so).
He surfaces to radio back to HQ and then dives back down and puts out an encypted call (hence the funny noise).

Then, scant minutes later, distant thrumming contacts... from ahead in a wide arc. Engine noise, what could well be active sonar pings from an unfamiliar system, and loud shipboard chatter in Ukrainian*, from a hundred different bearings along about 100 degrees of their foreward arc. At times audible, perhaps, are the words "Shkval," "Seawolf," and "Zovash zostrovia." Distinctly audible as the sources of the noise begin to approach the 20,000 yard mark is the click-chang of older torpedo tubes loading, with barked orders standing out from an overall low level of chatter that appear to be... well, if any slavic language experts are on board the Seawolf class submarines, they may well make out that the barked orders have to do with readying fore torpedo tubes one through ten and preparing to fire them on the mark.

Behind those and possibly lost by the Seawolf crews in the noise, are several quieter sets of slow moving, very quiet thrums.

Here we have the three Otter submersible vessels coming in as a group and deploying large numbers of decoys - their full supply of decoys, in fact.

The decoys have all been set to a certain "set" of programs, making them sound like submarines that aren't running silent; specifically, the settings here sound like Ukrainian crews chattering joyfully about getting ready to fire off Shkval rocket torpedos from their ten aft tubes at the poor Seawolf subs, so to speak.

The Seawolf crews will be able to hear this very easily with passive sonar (which is what submarines would be using under normal operating circumstances); it will be as if a large group of enemy - perhaps they may think it Russian, perhaps they may have a language expert on sonar who can identify the faintly audible chatter as Ukrainian - subs 10 nautical miles out have spotted them and have gone completely active, confident in their greater numbers and an upcoming volley of a thousand torpedos to completely annihilate the opposition.

The three Otters are running silent behind the noisy decoys, which are ahead of them and in a broad ring starting to circle around most of their front arc; they're only moving about 10 knots, though, and falling behind the decoys.

And the six Mantas quietly maneuvered at 500 fathoms (2000') depth, waiting for some coordinating signal that would alert their systems as they ran silent, moving into estimated positions and preparing...

The Manta submarines have come up on the flanks low, quiet, and fast, generally behind the Seawolf group, and waiting for a signal. They aren't making much noise at all - noticably less than the group of Seawolf subs probably are, which also isn't all that much - and they are sitting around crush depth for a Seawolf.

OOC: One last thing before I reply... and this won't effect the reality of the RP, I will be realistic... am I "screwed" any way I look at it?

OOC: One last thing before I reply... and this won't effect the reality of the RP, I will be realistic... am I "screwed" any way I look at it?

Realistically speaking, you are quite likely to get screwed, but you don't really have to be. Depending on how bright your sub captains are and how level-headed they are keeping (and how much the rumors and the trap panic them) it might not turn out too badly. 20 Seawolf subs is a lot of capable submarine, after all - it could well turn out to be an exchange that will seem close to even, on the tactical level at least.

OOC: Is it safe to presume I can spot the ships comprising your trap?

IC:

The 17 Seawolf's continued to advance southwards... they had received a telegraph telling them the second wolf pack would stay with the High Seas Fleet.

Admiral Keckler looked from his main sub through the periscope spotting a few ships in the distance.. he thought to himself, must be allied... His wolf pack continued and then all hell broke loose...

ooc/ i really have enough time for this it seems, sorry all, and i am in a very bad position. Therefore i am handing all forces over to Armacor, however there isnt very much of this.

and there is a large force around gibraltar,right? in the middle of my mine field?

ic/
***Coded Broadcast to all Allies***
***FROM:CCC NCA***
***TO:ALL ALLIES <FLEETS, ARMIES, AIRCORPS>***
WARNING, YOU HAVE 20 MINUTES TO EVAC GIBRATARIAN TERRITORY, ALL VESSELS SHOULD BE FACING GIBRALTAR. WE CANNOT HOLD THIS FORTRESS, HOWEVER WE WILL PREVENT OUR COMBINED OPPONENTS FROM TAKING IT. <YOURS, KURT BOSCH> CCC HIGH COMMAND
AUTH:<HFAQW PRIORITY 1>
***END***

ooc/ 20 minutes later gibraltar disappears when 10 JAXMi2 Missiles are detonated inside it, simultaniously.

Outside of the fortress Panzergruppe Gibraltar commander hears an explosion rock the peninsula. Then all of a sudden a gigantic ball of flames rises to the air and he can even see some ofthe tank being destroyed. He grabbed his radion and ordered a general withdrawal of the 30,000 men sent inside to finally take the area. Nothing...

Frantically he attempted again and finally got a response. A panic ensued and most of the 30,000 were caught inside the explosion area. Some 8,000 escaped without deadly wounds while another 1,000 were wounded heavily and were forced to go back home. The remaining 21,000 were killed... a sad day indeed.

In the ensuing six days the Panzergruppe was refitted with equipment and men and was sent north for a prospected invasion encrypted from Keynesian messages. There was only one message for proof of that but it was enough. The peninsula would be occupied by 50,000 men which would man the coastal guns and provide as a defense until more forces could arrive.

Another panzergruppe had been placed in the south while two panzergruppes, including Gibraltar, occupied the north. The concrete ring on the western coast was manned by hundreds of thousands of men.

ooc// errr what rock/coastal guns? it is an effectively nuclear blast.... i would be worried about your boats as well...

ooc// errr what rock/coastal guns? it is an effectively nuclear blast.... i would be worried about your boats as well...

OOC: Ok ok you should explain the potential of these weapons then...

IC: [i]Panzergruppe Gibraltar was totally destroyed by the blast. A great ball of fire rolled into all parts of the peninsula and even tidal waves blasted up through the bottom of the Med Sea destroying 2 Rommel class Battleships and three Seydlitz class Cruisers...it was complete devastation. The 30,000 men who had remained in the Gibraltar were dead..it was a miracle that Valencia had called off the rest of the panzergruppe.

In the next six days Panzergruppe Gibraltar was refitted and sent north to defend against a prospected invasion (look at the post two up..it has the rest..ignore the first part of it though)...

OOC: I thought it was agreed none of us would be using these weapons (The Jax Missiles)

he wanted to go out spectacularly... otherwise he just holds and fights hand to hand in the mountain - will probably cause same sort of casulties... (bonus is it clears 99% of the crud (mines/nets and stuff) out of the channel...)

Atlantic Fleet Command:

"Commodore Maran should be put in line for a promotion soon. That's the sort of good thinking we should reward. What an ambush! What results for us! On a side note, the analysts seem reasonably sure that the Seawolf group was Macabean in origin. We're not entirely sure; it might have been SnS, but I don't think we'll have to worry as much about many more of those running around. The second Barracuda has come down south to open hunting season on any enemy subs getting uncomfortably close, and I've briefed the captain on these roving groups. Say, what was Commodore Maran doing in a dinky little one man jobbie?"

"Ma'am, he's refused transfer to larger vessels six times since being issued command of that vessel. He says that it's only real way to run the seas."

"Odd fellow."

OOC: I thought it was agreed none of us would be using these weapons (The Jax Missiles)

OOC: Well, it's actually possible that he had, say, a hundred thousand tons or a significant fraction thereof of high explosives buried in and around the mountain... which could, properly used, create the same end effect. I'm still frowning at the jxb-thingie missiles, but leveling "his" mountain is more politically in-line than cratering a neutral city...

It had been an unmigitated disaster... 19 subs lost...the admiral lost... the only sub that had escaped had been saved by some blast that went off far ahead..it had pushed his sub which was only 25 meters below the sea (going to periscope level...50 meters)... but still a disaster for the Macabean Kriegsmarine...

ooc: My now combined Pacific/Atlantic fleet is/ has been moving towards the straits slowly, a large task force from that fleet will attempt to enter the Mediterranean Sea and meet the rest of my forces on the other side, once they get through safely the rest of the fleet will enter, significantly increasing our naval forces in the Met.

The group being sent first:
Submarines
[2] Seawolf Class Attack Submarines w/ 2 Manta unmanned subs each
[2] Utah Class Subs
[20] SeaSquid Class Submarines
->[6] AH-1A1 Super Cobra
->[11] AH-220 Sea Lion
->[3] SH-65A Dolphin( 1 heli per sub)
[4] Virgina Class Attack Submarines
[3] Seawolf class Attack Submarines
[6] Devil Ray Class Concrete Submarines
Battleships
[1] Iowa Class Battleships w/ ADV missle sys
-> [1] SH-60 Seahawk
-> [1] SH-65A Dolphin
Cruisers
[4] Long Beach Class Nuclear Cruisers
->[4] SH-60 Seahawk 1 each
->[4] SH-65A Dolphin 1 each
[1] XB-MPC Multi-Platform Cruisers
->[3] SH-60 Seahawk
->[1] Spartan Class Blimp
[1] Ticonderoga class Cruisers
->[2] AH-1A1 Super Cobra
->[1] SH-65A Dolphin 1 on each
[1] XB-AAMB Missile Cruiser
->[1] Spartan Class Blimp
Destroyers
[1] Sprunace class destroyer
->[2] SH-60 Seahawk
[3] Boxcar Class Guided Missile Destroyers
->[3] SH-60 Seahawk 1 on each
->[3] SH-65A Dolphin 1 on each
[6] XB-JMB Class "Jet Missile" Destroyers
>[6] SH-60 Seahawk 1 on each
[2] Arleigh Burke Class Destroyers
->[4] SH-65A Dolphin 2 on each
[12] Perry Class Stealth Destroyers
->[12] SH-65A Dolphins
Frigates
[3] Oliver Hazard Perry Class Frigates
->[3] SH-65A Dolphin 1 on each
Patrol/Light
[2] Dormer Class Cutters
[1] XB-SSB Special Speed Boats
Support
[3] Faraday Class Minesweepers

Air cover will be provided by the Met fleet and ground based a/c.

I am not making any offical statements just moving them through, if fired upon, retalitory measures will be taken.

You have Luftflotte IV which was based north of the Gibraltar to give the city hell.... they will be also covering you.

I also say we should clear out the sub menace... its unknown from what nation that attack came from but clearing it would be the best choice of action.

Not to popular my JAXMi2s are here, eh?

Not to popular my JAXMi2s are here, eh?

Not to popular my JAXMi2s are here, eh?

Personally I always had a big problem with them, using a *discovered* liquid to power a devestating weapon without the side-effects that come along with the normal one, sorry doesn't sound right. Like me saying I found some new rock, it's really light and all my troopers are now immune to most small arms fire.

it would be interesting if he released a press report in a few weeks saying there are side effects that they have only just discovered.... after a few have been used :-)

LoLz, Armacor.

Sorry you feel that way, SaS. Although, if you ever wish to acquire some of these most useful missiles, Ill give you 5 free with your purchase. Check out my thread.