NationStates Jolt Archive

Previously known as the Mod Academy Awards, this time I decided it was more fun to imagine our Game Mods engaging in sweaty physical contents. Of course, that could be just me.

Here are the results from September through to the present. Note that some of our newer mods haven't had the same length of time to chalk up the results as the older mods, and nevertheless have posted strong showings. These are clearly the ones to watch for next time.

Without further ado, here it is:

1st Event: Help Requests Handled

857 Reploid Productions
625 Neutered Sputniks
569 Scolopendra
169 The Most Glorious Hack
92 The SLAGLands
68 Karmabaijan
21 Melkor Unchained
21 Ineptia
18 Yavin
18 Enodia
3 [violet]
2 GMC Military Arms
Total Help Requests Handled: 2,463

It's the blue-ribbon event, but there are no real surprises, with the favorites taking out the gold, silver, and bronze medals. Scolopendra and Hack in particular put in very strong finishes -- the smart money will already be looking for Hack to take out a medal next time.

2nd Event: Daily Issues Edited

16 Reploid Productions
9 The SLAGLands
8 SalusaSecondus
1 Enodia

Total Issues Edited: 34

A brand new event, and controversial in some quarters. Very few entrants so far, but still, it's gold to Reppy, silver to SLAGLands, and bronze to our Tech Modling, SalusaSecondus, in the only event he is eligible for.

3rd Event: Nations Deleted

557 Neutered Sputniks
286 Reploid Productions
189 Scolopendra
155 The Most Glorious Hack
90 The SLAGLands
41 GMC Military Arms
41 Karmabaijan
21 Ineptia
20 Enodia
20 Menelmacar
14 Melkor Unchained
12 [violet]
Total Nations Deleted: 1,446.

NationStates's own "big bad" Neutered Sputniks claims the gold in this most brutal of sports. There's daylight and then Reppy and Scolo for the silver and bronze.

Let's check the medal tally!

Reploid Productions: 2 gold, 1 silver
Neutered Sputniks: 1 gold, 1 silver
The SLAGLands: 1 silver
Scolopendra: 2 bronze
SalusaSecondus: 1 bronze

4th Event: Nations Ejected from UN

347 Reploid Productions
130 Scolopendra
111 Neutered Sputniks
84 Enodia
64 The Most Glorious Hack
44 Karmabaijan
29 The SLAGLands
3 Ineptia
1 [violet]
Total Nations Ejected: 813.


Once again it's the three heavyweights in amongst the medals, this time with Scolopendra just pipping Neut for the silver. With only one event to go, Reppy looks hard to beat.

5th Event: UN Proposals Removed

418 Enodia
41 GMC Military Arms
10 Neutered Sputniks
8 Reploid Productions
7 Scolopendra
2 The Most Glorious Hack
2 [violet]
Total Proposals Removed: 488

A complete whitewash! Enodia dominates, racking up 10 times the score of the silver medallist, GMC. Neut snaffles a bronze medal, which may come in handy for the final standings. Once again, [violet] stumbles in gasping for breath at the rear.

And that's it! The final standings are:

Reploid Productions: 3 gold, 1 silver
Neutered Sputniks: 1 gold, 1 silver, 2 bronze
Enodia: 1 gold
Scolopendra: 1 silver, 2 bronze
The SLAGLands: 1 silver
GMC: 1 silver
SalusaSecondus: 1 bronze

But of course, there's more to the Mod Olympics than just medals. For the record, here's the complete list of all Game Mod actions. No doubt our viewing audience today will be as impressed by these numbers as I am -- a harder working bunch you will not find!

It's the mods who keep this game ticking over, day in, day out -- every one of them is a champion.

All Game Moderator Actions

6,662 Reploid Productions
5,523 Neutered Sputniks
3,391 Scolopendra
2,071 The Most Glorious Hack
1,385 Enodia
1,046 The SLAGLands
1,028 Karmabaijan
343 [violet]
291 Yavin
181 GMC Military Arms
149 Melkor Unchained
126 Ineptia
49 Menelmacar
Total Game Moderator Actions: 22,245.

418 proposal deletions? Wow. :shock:

Good job to the UN proposal-makers of the world, by the way, you do seem to be cleaning up your acts a bit right now.

it was Rigged, teh Russians Coerced France into voting for Rep,

Whoo!

Hey, boss, with how popular it's become, maybe there should be a Jesus award for resurrecting dead nations :wink:

Grumble . . . there is no fair way to measure that which I have done.

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/nationstates/salusasecondus/salusasecondus2.jpg
SalusaSecondus
Tech Modling
PGP: 0x0604DF3E

*waves small flag proclaiming "VOTE 4 TEH SIRROCO"*

We FMs demand a representation! :P

*Stands waving a sign, screaming*
Salusa,Salusa,Salusa

(The guy deservs some recognition)

Yeah so i'm sucking up :lol:

Whoo!

Hey, boss, with how popular it's become, maybe there should be a Jesus award for resurrecting dead nations :wink:

Actually, that's a good idea. I might do better than 4th, which seems to be my current niche.

Hm.

I mean, tin medals are nice, but...

*waves small flag proclaiming "VOTE 4 TEH SIRROCO"*

We FMs demand a representation! :P
Youi could have threads locked, but then you might not win that either :?
(go TG!)

And good job to the mods, for this and the 5000 Help requests handled. The issue category is still a little lacking though ;)

This was great. :D

Oh, and Salusa still kicks major butt.

The issue category is still a little lacking though ;)

Something I intend rectifying in a little over a week when I officially finish uni for the year. Be warned, denizens of NationStates, for Enodian-edited issues will soon appear on your screens!

Seriously, if you guys are ever over in the UK the British contingent of NS players will buy you many, many rounds of drinks! We owe you lots, cheers for all the hard work to keep this game as fun as it is. :D

Seriously, if you guys are ever over in the UK the British contingent of NS players will buy you many, many rounds of drinks! We owe you lots, cheers for all the hard work to keep this game as fun as it is. :D
*intends to make Anarchtopia put his money where his mouth is when he (me) comes backpacking over thataway*

What happened to Menelmacar? :(

Anyway, great job, mods, and especially Rep (our Olympic winner, it seems).

Congratulations to Rep and the whole Mod team!

Looking at the results, [violet] really doesn't seem to carry her weight.

Looking at the results, [violet] really doesn't seem to carry her weight.

Now, now.. would you prefer [violet] to be DEATing people.. or coding the site? Who do you think does 99% of all the coding for the site? It's [violet], that is why [violet] is the big head honcho.! heh 8)

Looking at the results, [violet] really doesn't seem to carry her weight.

Ah, no, actually, that's what I expect.

[violet], in addition to coding the site, is a great administrator. [violet] does not need to get involved often. S/he knows how to delegate, and the results are as seen above.

oh dear lord...

Looking at the results, [violet] really doesn't seem to carry her weight.

Ah, no, actually, that's what I expect.

[violet], in addition to coding the site, is a great administrator. [violet] does not need to get involved often. S/he knows how to delegate, and the results are as seen above.

Seems the humor behind my post was dropped when you picked up the words I wrote. No problem, I am sure [violet] knows I was only kidding.

6,662 Reploid Productions

:shock: :shock: :shock: ]

Thats about 100 shizzles per day. Someone has no life...

I like TG's and Steph's approach; I think they use reason and persuasion. Cog too.

Looking at the results, [violet] really doesn't seem to carry her weight.

Ah, no, actually, that's what I expect.

[violet], in addition to coding the site, is a great administrator. [violet] does not need to get involved often. S/he knows how to delegate, and the results are as seen above.

Seems the humor behind my post was dropped when you picked up the words I wrote. No problem, I am sure [violet] knows I was only kidding.

I knew you were only kidding too, for what it's worth ;)

Congrats to the mods and their medals. It shows the amount of hard work that they put in, contrary to popular belief.

I like TG's and Steph's approach; I think they use reason and persuasion. Cog too.

It should be noted that Tactical Grace, Stephistan, and myself are only Forum Mods. [violet] has not bothered to post logs of Forum Mod actions, here.

Looking at the results, [violet] really doesn't seem to carry her weight.

Ah, no, actually, that's what I expect. <snip>

Seems the humor behind my post was dropped when you picked up the words I wrote. No problem, I am sure [violet] knows I was only kidding.

Tone-of-voice doesn't carry well in text form. You need to remember to include explicit indications of your mood and of whether or not you're joking.

"Think about it for a moment." :wink:

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
Founder of The Realm of Ambrosia

I like TG's and Steph's approach; I think they use reason and persuasion. Cog too.
It should be noted that Tactical Grace, Stephistan, and myself are only Forum Mods. [violet] has not bothered to post logs of Forum Mod actions, here.
Though had [violet] done so . . . 8)

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator
The Great Destroyer of Threads

Wooo go mods :D

Uhh, goodjob, heres a cookie *nervously looks over shoulder for Neut* The reaper mod is scary...............

Hey Cog, looky! (http://www.jadebuddha.com/images/mac.wmv)

Looking at the results, [violet] really doesn't seem to carry her weight.

Ah, no, actually, that's what I expect.

[violet], in addition to coding the site, is a great administrator. [violet] does not need to get involved often. S/he knows how to delegate, and the results are as seen above.

Seems the humor behind my post was dropped when you picked up the words I wrote. No problem, I am sure [violet] knows I was only kidding.

Sorry, Ackbar -- it's hard to read joking or sarcasm. ;)

Hey Cog, looky! (http://www.jadebuddha.com/images/mac.wmv)

Hmm that musy have been made on a WIntel, as the Video doesnt work,
and Oh yeah when you are making fun of a Mac as Compared to a WIntel, particulatly one running WIn ME or later, at least compare the CURRENT version of Mac OS, (that would Be OSX 10.3) Not OS 7.5 I recognize what he is talking about and the stuff the g0rt in the well I cannot call it a video is talking about is failings of OS 7.5 a Mac os from 95/96 that was only available for like 3 months.

Thanky
Loop

Congratulations to the Mod Squad, for spending hours of personal time to keep this game enjoyable. And thanks to [violet] for compiling this list...very interesting/amusing. :)

What happened to Menelmacar? :(
She is a bum.

Let's make the next one mod survivor!(I hate that show but still...for humor purposes)

And I would like to say thank you to the mods, on most other forums I hardly ever see the mods, and when I do they are basically indistinguishable from the other players except from the title under the avatar, here you know who the mods are because they are consistenlty modding things :)

(if i'm stuck on the issues...accept mine and I'll stop)
One other stat that'd be interesting..Issues rejected. Even if you don't keep who did it.

Being a GM must be fun.

Being bombarded with help requests, sorting out inapprpriate proposals, editing badly written issues. . .

Then again, as somebody with no life, I have a very bizzarre definition of "fun."

:twisted:

Then again, as somebody with no life, I have a very bizzarre definition of "fun."

:twisted:

Hah...same here.

<--- is still jealous over the Ellsworth thing, but is listening to a great filibuster by Reid over on C-SPAN 2

Then again, as somebody with no life, I have a very bizzarre definition of "fun."

:twisted:

Hah...same here.

<--- is still jealous over the Ellsworth thing, but is listening to a great filibuster by Reid over on C-SPAN 2


*High-fives Qaaol and Goob*

Yeah!

Loser power!

Then again, as somebody with no life, I have a very bizzarre definition of "fun."

:twisted:

Hah...same here.

<--- is still jealous over the Ellsworth thing, but is listening to a great filibuster by Reid over on C-SPAN 2

<--- Has no clue who Reid is, but still thinks that Gooberguchia would like it better in Western Mass.

Hey, I was on C-SPAN 2 once as I was listening to Granny D speak(and asked her a couple of questions) at The Oddessey Bookshop.

I had several other chances, but C-SPAN is always at The Oddesey, so I didn't bother. :twisted:

<--- Expects there to be news of a killing spree by a deranged sixteen-year old in a certain town in PA. :P

]
All Game Moderator Actions

6,662 Reploid Productions
5,523 Neutered Sputniks
3,391 Scolopendra
2,071 The Most Glorious Hack
1,385 Enodia
1,046 The SLAGLands
1,028 Karmabaijan
343 [violet]
291 Yavin
181 GMC Military Arms
149 Melkor Unchained
126 Ineptia
49 Menelmacar
Total Game Moderator Actions: 22,245.

This is exactly why if I ever manage to catch one of the mods in my fabratraculious light-inverted monotonous hyphenated mod-catching machine, my fourth wish granted by he/she/it will most certainly be to free them of thier tormenting moddom. That is, if they wont grant my wish for 1,000 more wishes.

*High-fives Qaaol and Goob*

Yeah!

Loser power!
Sadly, Sirocco is no longer with us to share the simple joys of having no life. After being modified, he apparently got a life.

*High-fives Qaaol and Goob*

Yeah!

Loser power!
Sadly, Sirocco is no longer with us to share the simple joys of having no life. After being modified, he apparently got a life.

He did? :shock:

This is exactly why if I ever manage to catch one of the mods in my fabratraculious light-inverted monotonous hyphenated mod-catching machine, my fourth wish granted by he/she/it will most certainly be to free them of thier tormenting moddom. That is, if they wont grant my wish for 1,000 more wishes.
Come now, they like being slaves to Max, God of the Internet. :P
After all us techies like being his servants, and we don't have any DEATing powers. :twisted:

He did? :shock:
The United Kingdom of Sirocco Inoffensive Centrist Democracy Active 18 hours ago
Lancre
UN Delegate

Eighteen hours without NS! :shock:

ANd this isn't the first time that my dossier has revealed similar relevations.

yeah he does seem to be on less :? :(

I kept hoping it was just the time zones :cry:

yeah he does seem to be on less :? :(

I kept hoping it was just the time zones :cry:

You're lamenting over his being away for 18 hours. That's less than a full day.

"Think about it for a moment." :P

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
Founder of The Realm of Ambrosia

yeah he does seem to be on less :? :(

I kept hoping it was just the time zones :cry:

You're lamenting over his being away for 18 hours. That's less than a full day.

"Think about it for a moment." :P

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
Founder of The Realm of Ambrosia

Yeah.....

but still!!!

18 hours... that's like *counts on fingers* ... 18 hours :shock:

18 hours... that's like *counts on fingers* ... 18 hours :shock:
Over half a day. :shock:
That is like going wthout breathing for half a day.

That's practically going for the whole waking day without NS. How can it be managed? I'm worrying for Sirocco's health. Something must have happened. :shock: What are we going to do?

*runs around in circles screaming*

Maybe....it's just.....


AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

That's practically going for the whole waking day without NS. How can it be managed? I'm worrying for Sirocco's health. Something must have happened. :shock: What are we going to do?

*runs around in circles screaming*
Call the Fife authorities and tell them to look for an NS Forum Moderator passed out somewhere.

Hurry hurry. :o

Neut got #1 for deleted nations, big suprise :roll: . I'll leave now........

Hahahaha you have 'anus' in your nation name. *points and laughs*

Hahahaha you have 'anus' in your nation name. *points and laughs*

That's just childish.

You're lamenting over his being away for 18 hours. That's less than a full day.

"Think about it for a moment." :P

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
Founder of The Realm of Ambrosia

Find one person in my dossier except Sirocco (and Lamentus who is currently in Spain with no internet access) who has been off for more than four hours.


The Allied States of Canada-GermanyCorrupt DictatorshipActive 2 hours ago
Zhaucauozian Friendship
UN Member

[Flag] The Electorate of EnodiaScandinavian Liberal ParadiseActive 3 hours ago
Area 51
UN Member

[Flag] The Liberal Unitary Republic of GoobergunchiaScandinavian Liberal ParadiseActive 43 minutes ago
Democratic Underground
UN Delegate

[Flag] The Community of GurtharkCivil Rights LovefestActive 24 minutes ago
Zhaucauozian Friendship
UN Member

[Flag] The Holy Empire of HeksefattaniaCompulsory Consumerist StateActive 4 hours ago
The Union of UN Hating Tyrants

[Flag] The Free Land of LamentusDemocratic SocialistsActive 53 days ago
Zhaucauozian Friendship
UN Member

[Flag] The Free Land of LaruneScandinavian Liberal ParadiseActive 3 hours ago
Larune
UN Member

[Flag] The Headbanging Republic of NuMetalNew York Times DemocracyActive 8 minutes ago
Metal Bass

[Flag] The United Kingdom of SiroccoInoffensive Centrist DemocracyActive 18 hours ago
Lancre
UN Delegate

[Flag] The Republic of SpoffinLeft-Leaning College StateActive 84 minutes ago
Mercia
UN Delegate

[Flag] The Libertarian Paradise of SunsetCapitaliztActive 46 minutes ago
The Planet Mars

[Flag] The Imperial Soviet Union of TROUSRSCompulsory Consumerist StateActive 3 hours ago
Liechtenstein

I reall need to update my dossier, currenlty it's got some deleted nations and some who I just like their flag or region,and I need to add the people I actually communicate with(most of whom aren't on here)

The Rogue Nation of Capsual Corp Inoffensive Centrist Democracy Active 7 hours ago
The Sayian Arena
UN Delegate
Cshanktu
The Empire of Debaermania Father Knows Best State Active 1 day ago
Cartel Corporate
UN Delegate
The Rogue Nation of Evisian Corporate Police State Active 6 hours ago
000
UN Delegate
Greenerland
The Dazed and Confused State of Ilmunc Corrupt Dictatorship Active 2 days ago
Metal Bass
The Republic of Kandarin New York Times Democracy Active 30 minutes ago
The Rejected Realms
UN Delegate
Nerikland
The Holy Empire of Pope Hope New York Times Democracy Active 2 hours ago
Nasicournia
UN Delegate
Shaggy1
The United Kingdom of Sirocco Inoffensive Centrist Democracy Active 18 hours ago
Lancre
UN Delegate
Soda can
Swim bob

I reall need to update my dossier, currenlty it's got some deleted nations and some who I just like their flag or region,and I need to add the people I actually communicate with(most of whom aren't on here)

I just updated my dossier today, ading you and Guthark, removing some other members of my region, and removing people whom I added because they ticked me off at some point. I do have an ex-nation, the original delegate of my region, Bananapple at the top of my dossier, and to accord her due respect, I never add any A-Bannappld nations.

Damn ... *Makes mental note not to bug Neut or Rep or SLAGGY*

I should be a mod

cough

did I say that? :roll:

I should be a mod

cough

did I say that? :roll:
Yes you did, but . . .
]How Do I Become a Moderator?
If you regularly make helpful posts in the forums, especially the Technical Forum, the mods and I will notice you. Once you've established a reputation, you can let one or two moderators know that you are interested in modding. The next time we want to add more moderators, we will discuss various candidates and make a decision. If you are chosen, I will e-mail you an invitation
I'd say that you have a long way to go except . . .

Just a note: Don't ask to be a Mod. That usually only hurts your chances.
:twisted:

I should be a mod

cough

did I say that? :roll:

The site's staffing needs are currently filled, and as such no new mods are being sought at present.

I should be a mod

cough

did I say that? :roll:
Yes you did, but . . .
]How Do I Become a Moderator?
If you regularly make helpful posts in the forums, especially the Technical Forum, the mods and I will notice you. Once you've established a reputation, you can let one or two moderators know that you are interested in modding. The next time we want to add more moderators, we will discuss various candidates and make a decision. If you are chosen, I will e-mail you an invitation
I'd say that you have a long way to go except . . .

Just a note: Don't ask to be a Mod. That usually only hurts your chances.
:twisted:

Lol...I know...that's why I said it :roll:

I should be a mod

cough

did I say that? :roll:

The site's staffing needs are currently filled, and as such no new mods are being sought at present.

I know...that's what I was told when I originally contacted...uh...someone...ages ago

Yes I know, I was just pointing out that your chance of becoming a moderator stand somewhere around the chances that Dark-Terror has.

Contacting them will not make a difference if you do not help out.

Personally my philosophy is: help out for the fun of it, and if you become a mod you do, and great, you get to help improve the game, if you don't (which is far more likely), you don't, and you continue to help in other ways.

If you *really want* to become a moderator, then you would not be an exceptional candidate for one.

That you can not take gentle teasing is yet anther reason thatyou will not become a mod in the near future. Mods need to be able to withstand great pressure without snapping.

Mods need to be able to withstand great pressure without snapping.

Well that would tend to rule me out. :wink:

Mods need to be able to withstand great pressure without snapping.

Well that would tend to rule me out. :wink:
But [violet] said so. :?

*decides that quirky undergraduate humour has a time and a place and this is neither*

Looking at the results, [violet] really doesn't seem to carry her weight.

Ah, no, actually, that's what I expect.

[violet], in addition to coding the site, is a great administrator. [violet] does not need to get involved often. S/he knows how to delegate, and the results are as seen above.

Seems the humor behind my post was dropped when you picked up the words I wrote. No problem, I am sure [violet] knows I was only kidding.

Sorry, Ackbar -- it's hard to read joking or sarcasm. ;)

Ahh, no problem. Keep in mind that even when I am serious, I am always joking. :wink:

I was away for three whole days over the weekend, and no-one noticed. Hmm, must go hunting again . . . :twisted:

I like TG's and Steph's approach; I think they use reason and persuasion. Cog too.
It should be noted that Tactical Grace, Stephistan, and myself are only Forum Mods. [violet] has not bothered to post logs of Forum Mod actions, here.
Though had [violet] done so . . . 8)

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator
The Great Destroyer of Threads

Haha TG, I'm not sure the players of NS would consider that a good thing. LOL :lol:

I was away for three whole days over the weekend, and no-one noticed. Hmm, must go hunting again . . . :twisted:

You were gone? :twisted:

That you can not take gentle teasing is yet anther reason thatyou will not become a mod in the near future. Mods need to be able to withstand great pressure without snapping.

because I snap all the time of course :roll:

<announcer>And its Reploid Productions by a nose.</announcer>

*decides that quirky undergraduate humour has a time and a place and this is neither*

:wink:

That you can not take gentle teasing is yet anther reason thatyou will not become a mod in the near future. Mods need to be able to withstand great pressure without snapping.

because I snap all the time of course :roll:
And you just did it again.
That makes twice in two days. . .
In the same thread.
If you were real material for a mod you would just have let it drop.

That you can not take gentle teasing is yet anther reason thatyou will not become a mod in the near future. Mods need to be able to withstand great pressure without snapping.

because I snap all the time of course :roll:
And you just did it again.
That makes twice in two days. . .
In the same thread.
If you were real material for a mod you would just have let it drop.

Hmmm.... :?

Define snapping and what criteria you think apply. That last quote doesn't sound too bad to me.

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
Founder of The Realm of Ambrosia

Define snapping and what criteria you think apply. That last quote doesn't sound too bad to me.

The rolling eyes and the tone.

Sarcastic moderators get a lot of flak from what I have seen, and personally, I'm nut sure that I'd feel comfortable having a mod on NS who uses sarcasm that frequently. (And I tend to to support the mods) Though that is just me. . .

<announcer>And its Reploid Productions by a nose.</announcer>

Actually, if that were the criteria, SalusaSecondus would be well in the lead. :wink:

I was away for three whole days over the weekend, and no-one noticed. Hmm, must go hunting again . . . :twisted:

You were gone? :twisted:

Holy crap! Tactical Grace is a mod?!

When did that happen?!

And who the Hell is she?

:wink:

Holy crap! Tactical Grace is a mod?!

When did that happen?!

And who the Hell is she?

:wink:
And when did he become a she. :P

Holy crap! Tactical Grace is a mod?!

When did that happen?!

And who the Hell is she?

:wink:
And when did he become a she. :P

I think that was part of the joke

That you can not take gentle teasing is yet anther reason thatyou will not become a mod in the near future. Mods need to be able to withstand great pressure without snapping.

because I snap all the time of course :roll:
And you just did it again.
That makes twice in two days. . .
In the same thread.
If you were real material for a mod you would just have let it drop.

*ignoring the possible flamebait*

In my opinion..."snapping" is screaming via word or font choice, spamming, flaming, using harsh language, etc.

Sarcasm is everyday life and a part of some people's personalities. I can easily take gentle teasing...and much harser "teasing"...and "snap out" rarely...

*ignoring the possible flamebait*

In my opinion..."snapping" is screaming via word or font choice, spamming, flaming, using harsh language, etc.

Sarcasm is everyday life and a part of some people's personalities. I can easily take gentle teasing...and much harser "teasing"...and "snap out" rarely...
I have a response, but perhaps it would be better to just drop this.

*ignoring the possible flamebait*

In my opinion..."snapping" is screaming via word or font choice, spamming, flaming, using harsh language, etc.

Sarcasm is everyday life and a part of some people's personalities. I can easily take gentle teasing...and much harser "teasing"...and "snap out" rarely...
I have a response, but perhaps it would be better to just drop this.

Agreed