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The crazy critter stepped out of the Menelmacari genetic labs...

It's a n00kular-powered turbocharged pyrokinetic stealth Teheted cloaked Resi-nanoed flying sexy winged Kryptonian First Slayer psychic ninja Hydra tank Vala magician hacker Thiede dragon Old One spider Jedi Sith demon angel uberlizard changeling Vorlon vampire god with horns and a tail, genetic and quantum cybernetic enhancements, an immunity to kryptonite, more arms than Kali, an Eye of God in each shoulder, and a really cool deep voice! Armed with a superlaser, Stormbringer, Mournblade, Excalibur, a flaming sword, Grond, Darth Maul's lightstaff, a n00kular sunlamp and a pair of electro-whips, wearing chain mail, rollerskates, a black leather catsuit, all the rings of power, and the One Ring - on every finger!! On a fiery steed that's in Shinzon's warbird that's on a Vorlon planetkiller that's in the Death Star that's in a freakin' invisible tank!

Fear, Shentavo! The bell tolls for theeeeeee!!! :twisted:

OOC: This is, of course, just me and a bunch of other folks on IRC making a point.

~Siri

According to recent surveillance operations, the Vortex Corporation has also concluded that this being is also a celestial dragon in another dimension that can still attack this dimension without being attacked.

I assume that the tank will look not unlike this one?

http://www.geocities.com/kranzyoktyabr/cannon.txt

OMG POWAR!

It's actually invisible so it looks like this:












Terrifying eh?

The Holy Empire of Iraqstan shivers in acknowledgement of this devestatingly sexy and destructive weapon and hope that Rave and her shentavos plea to the signs of Sirithil in accordance to immortal laws.

Also we have further discovered that it has a black hole emitting vortex that is geneticaly modified to attack shentavo vampires only.

~Carlos the Jackal.

Yes, we're opening a storefront, and we're prepared to sell clones of this amazing killing machine for the princely sum of one single credit! Place yer orders! ;)

~Siri

OMG NOEZ! I'll take eleventy millyan billyan bajillian! OMG LOLZ!!11!11!1oneoneshiftoneI

Yes, we're opening a storefront, and we're prepared to sell clones of this amazing killing machine for the princely sum of one single credit! Place yer orders! ;)

~Siri

OMG h4X! I want 800018! Creditz wired!

We'll take 5, especially since we have noticed that it posesses auto-regeneration and phase shifting skills, as well as the ability to teleport itself into your bathroom.

~Council

"We are of course amazed by this development... This perfectly feasible and balanced tech will help us crushing the vampire plague once and for all!"

~ Mad scientists conference, DA

Yes, we're opening a storefront, and we're prepared to sell clones of this amazing killing machine for the princely sum of one single credit! Place yer orders! ;)

~Siri

Mephisto, prince of darkness, lord of lies, servant of the nameless no-no, and general all-around bad guy looked at this. "I'll take 5 million, in green. Since it appears to also be able to float, and clean my teeth! Perfect for all the family." He smiled, and winked.

The commercial ended. "Dark one... I feel so dirty."

About time we had some reasonable tech round here! Too much
godmodding if you ask me. I'll take a billion trillion, and I'll pay you
with the billion trillion my nation earns every day. Cheers, Big Ears :D

"Yes indeed. The formula to create it was so simple, yet so complicated at the same time. This is truly a highlight of realism and a result of continuous quests for improvement of current technology. I cannot believe we did not discover the possibility to build, grow and breed these beings fourty years ago"

~TVC Delegate at the Mad Scientists conference, DA

We'll take 5, especially since we have noticed that it posesses auto-regeneration and phase shifting skills, as well as the ability to teleport itself into your bathroom.

~Council

:lol:

You pervert...

After due consideration, research and thinking the scientists here at RAVE (Rightously Awesome Very Energetic) Sciences have discovered that not only does this behemoth run from a formula of very well detailed chaos theories but! We've also managed to make him speak like yoda and have japanese fans from his ears! It's really cool!

This is of course the japanese export version and will be transfered to menelmacari people for sales.

~Someone I lost.

"Rumors that Armscor/Territorial has incorporated TechnoCore temporal manipulation technologies (as seen in the Shrike class combat unit), Planckscale archailect-controlled adaptive, defensive and offensive capabilities and a Green Lantern Ring into the design are false.
"We instead incorporated analogous technologies far superior to those inferior products."

-Joanna Ntsondo

"We will take three.

Is it possible to get them in Naru Narusegawa design?"

~ Some pervert

OMG!!!!!1!!!!1! Do you have a picture of that!

Oh and you can’t afford eleventy millyan billyan bajillian, Iraqstan… that would be dogmoding. :P

Lies, I have TEH FRIGTHENING ECONOMY! I can afford anything!

The Vortex Corporation denies arming the Rave Killers with Shogata Energy Cannons, a long range Ion Cannon, EMP armament and shielding, as well as sacred Katana blades. In the same statement, TVC also denies adding bulletproof vests, garlic patches, crucifix tattoos and holy water essence in the blood of Rave Killers.

~Council

Iesus Christi, for the first time in its history, applauds Menelmacar for its achievment.
We also seek to purchase 10 of these marvels of the modern age, whitch of course Christi-Corp will not pirate/copy and sell on at a cut down cost after being blessed by Priests and/or Bishops .

OOC: gives a big giggle and YAY at this.

Lies, I have TEH FRIGTHENING ECONOMY! I can afford anything!

Oh no… TEH FRIGHTENING ECON-EM-A-THINGY! You spooked half of my 1.4 Billion über wankfest troops because my nation is all forced into the military!!1!!! I n00ks joo for dogmoding with 224234564234234653345343466 nookz. And I ignore you. :roll:

I really shouldn’t get so bored at work… but I could entertain myself like this for hours on end.

Funny.
Rave's not here right now, she's being tortured on trial. Sorry to disappoint you. have a nice day. (And I AM serious about her being tortured on trial)

Funny.
Rave's not here right now, she's being tortured on trial. Sorry to disappoint you. have a nice day. (And I AM serious about her being tortured on trial)

OOCly: Jesus, Rave, take it easy...it's only a game...a game in which I am just waiting to grab the opportunity to crush you into dust. Ahhh. but I see that Siri has dibs on exterminating you with her fabulous new "crazy critter". The nation of HARU applauds Lady Siri in this achievement. And we would like to buy twenty gazillon "crazy critters". Money has already been wired. WE have TEH FRIGHTENING ECONoMY; we're good for it.

OOC: lmao, Siri.

Funny.
Rave's not here right now, she's being tortured on trial. Sorry to disappoint you. have a nice day. (And I AM serious about her being tortured on trial)

Just interpret it as "constructive criticism"

Urm I used to be a Shentavo, I was exiled. Does that count? Point made by the way, I do not rp like that.

I hope.

*awaits blasts from cannons*

This is nothing but an attempt to cut in on my market!

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=88559

As a result I'm slashing all prices by 50%. And, we offer far more variety, and some things that Siri could *never* offer you! Get your TEST/ICLs today!

Meh… I don’t mind so long as everyone in the thread is ok with it. People may not like incredibly powerful characters but I don’t see what the problem is so long as the people in the RP itself don’t mind… if you don’t want to RP with someone’s powerful character then keep out of the thread, it’s that simple.

This thread however, is in jest. It’s not really meant to be taken seriously and it’s just an on going joke… it’s a shame that it is focused on Rave, who isn’t a bad role-player… she’s just… ambitious. Overall her ideas are kind of original (I’ve not seen enough to say otherwise) and people enjoy them, I’ve been in around four of her threads and I’ve been pretty happy with the way they’ve turned out.

And HARU, please, don’t make this thread personal… that’s how flaming starts and it won’t do anyone any good.

Basically, to reiterate: if you don’t want to role-play with powerful characters… don’t.

Hmm... an immense, logical weapon of unstoppable power... But does it sing?

Hmm... an immense, logical weapon of unstoppable power... But does it sing?

Just opera.

"We will take three.

Is it possible to get them in Naru Narusegawa design?"

~ Some pervert

Yes, the naru punch alone could obliterate anything.

It's a n00kular-powered turbocharged pyrokinetic stealth Teheted cloaked Resi-nanoed flying sexy winged Kryptonian First Slayer psychic ninja Hydra tank Vala magician hacker Thiede dragon Old One spider Jedi Sith demon angel uberlizard changeling Vorlon vampire god with horns and a tail....


She breaks down often and needs a full overhall every fifty feet?

No no. She has tank parts and Hydra genes spliced into her. As in, there's armor and cannons, and multiple heads that grow back more so when cut off.

~Siri

The crazy critter stepped out of the Menelmacari genetic labs...

It's a n00kular-powered turbocharged pyrokinetic stealth Teheted cloaked Resi-nanoed flying sexy winged Kryptonian First Slayer psychic ninja Hydra tank Vala magician hacker Thiede dragon Old One spider Jedi Sith demon angel uberlizard changeling Vorlon vampire god with horns and a tail, genetic and quantum cybernetic enhancements, an immunity to kryptonite, more arms than Kali, an Eye of God in each shoulder, and a really cool deep voice! Armed with a superlaser, Stormbringer, Mournblade, Excalibur, a flaming sword, Grond, Darth Maul's lightstaff, a n00kular sunlamp and a pair of electro-whips, wearing chain mail, rollerskates, a black leather catsuit, all the rings of power, and the One Ring - on every finger!! On a fiery steed that's in Shinzon's warbird that's on a Vorlon planetkiller that's in the Death Star that's in a freakin' invisible tank!

Fear, Shentavo! The bell tolls for theeeeeee!!! :twisted:

OOC: This is, of course, just me and a bunch of other folks on IRC making a point.

~Siri

http://www.digikitten.com/playhousev2/files/Mishgan/Siri_Ownz.gif

The crazy critter stepped out of the Menelmacari genetic labs...

It's a n00kular-powered turbocharged pyrokinetic stealth Teheted cloaked Resi-nanoed flying sexy winged Kryptonian First Slayer psychic ninja Hydra tank Vala magician hacker Thiede dragon Old One spider Jedi Sith demon angel uberlizard changeling Vorlon vampire god with horns and a tail, genetic and quantum cybernetic enhancements, an immunity to kryptonite, more arms than Kali, an Eye of God in each shoulder, and a really cool deep voice! Armed with a superlaser, Stormbringer, Mournblade, Excalibur, a flaming sword, Grond, Darth Maul's lightstaff, a n00kular sunlamp and a pair of electro-whips, wearing chain mail, rollerskates, a black leather catsuit, all the rings of power, and the One Ring - on every finger!! On a fiery steed that's in Shinzon's warbird that's on a Vorlon planetkiller that's in the Death Star that's in a freakin' invisible tank!

Fear, Shentavo! The bell tolls for theeeeeee!!! :twisted:

OOC: This is, of course, just me and a bunch of other folks on IRC making a point.

~Siri

Fish are how many credits to the ton?

We're tired of too much nutritious bounty of the sea, we'd like to trade this trawler-full in for some of those invisible tank thingies... do they float?

Jeez. Of all the people who could have pointed this out, Menelmacar (I am currently offering a reward to anyone who can shorten the word "Menelmacar" without resorting to "Siri") was the last on my list. Well, not the last. Haraki was the last but Menel (See what I mean? Menel stinks as a shortened form) was pretty far down.

SbW

This is weird. All these nations that are enemies who agree on something. Iesus congradulating Menelmacar. That's something I didn't expect. And I sit here, friends with Rave......gotta run *runs away*

Jeez. Of all the people who could have pointed this out, Menelmacar (I am currently offering a reward to anyone who can shorten the word "Menelmacar" without resorting to "Siri") was the last on my list. Well, not the last. Haraki was the last but Menel (See what I mean? Menel stinks as a shortened form) was pretty far down.

SbW

Mel. ^_^ It works! ^_^

Menelmacar,

We can trade you one of those "things" for 10 Chickaroaches, 4 inflatable baboons (two males and two females) and one winged monkey.

This offer will not be on the table forever. Don't hesitate!

I still think she's using the shotty parts from a Hydra Tank myself....

Throws in one cute fluffy white baby seal to sweeten Vrak's offer.

One question: Why does everyone hate Rave Shentavo? Was there horrendous godmodding, or what? I was just wondering what provoked the Godmod-O-Matic thread and the IGNORE volleys I've heard of.

Mwa ha ha ha ha i release my rabid godomodders out of there cage to hunt down the Shentavoes(Exiled ones don't count Kain )we will also give you godmodding D.N.A to splice into you crazy critters D.N.A.

(I am currently offering a reward to anyone who can shorten the word "Menelmacar" without resorting to "Siri")

OOC: I submit "M'elmac'." 8)

(I am currently offering a reward to anyone who can shorten the word "Menelmacar" without resorting to "Siri")

OOC: I submit "M'elmac'." 8)

OOC: That rhymes with "Remulak", the Conehead homeworld.

http://www.tvacres.com/images/coneheads_small.jpg

One question: Why does everyone hate Rave Shentavo? Was there horrendous godmodding, or what? I was just wondering what provoked the Godmod-O-Matic thread and the IGNORE volleys I've heard of.

Some people feel that using an half-vampire angel of death is a little bit of the "OMGZ!!!!! I NUX0RZ UZE!!!11111" style of roleplay. For myself, I haven't read many of her threads, so I can't comment. I've never seen anyone directly quote Rave godmoding, though, unless you count the character herself as a godmod.

The crazy critter stepped out of the Menelmacari genetic labs...

It's a n00kular-powered turbocharged pyrokinetic stealth Teheted cloaked Resi-nanoed flying sexy winged Kryptonian First Slayer psychic ninja Hydra tank Vala magician hacker Thiede dragon Old One spider Jedi Sith demon angel uberlizard changeling Vorlon vampire god with horns and a tail, genetic and quantum cybernetic enhancements, an immunity to kryptonite, more arms than Kali, an Eye of God in each shoulder, and a really cool deep voice! Armed with a superlaser, Stormbringer, Mournblade, Excalibur, a flaming sword, Grond, Darth Maul's lightstaff, a n00kular sunlamp and a pair of electro-whips, wearing chain mail, rollerskates, a black leather catsuit, all the rings of power, and the One Ring - on every finger!! On a fiery steed that's in Shinzon's warbird that's on a Vorlon planetkiller that's in the Death Star that's in a freakin' invisible tank!

Fear, Shentavo! The bell tolls for theeeeeee!!! :twisted:

OOC: This is, of course, just me and a bunch of other folks on IRC making a point.

~Siri

http://www.digikitten.com/playhousev2/files/Mishgan/Siri_Ownz.gif

Actually, I should get part of the credit / blame for this, since I started it by pondering crossing Rave Shentavo, Godzilla and Christopher Lee [which is where the really cool deep voice comes from.]

<Buys one and gives it a bicycle to make it uber>

(I am currently offering a reward to anyone who can shorten the word "Menelmacar" without resorting to "Siri")

OOC: I submit "M'elmac'." 8)

MLM

M&M

MenMa

Men'car

Nelma

OOC:

M&M is Melkor and Menelmacar.

"Melkor and Menelmacar,
sitting in a tree,
K-I-S..."

*hides under a large rock.*

I never would think I would be labeled the worst godmodder in Nationstates.

Rave... you aren't the worst godmodder on the forums, you're just the person being joked at in this thread. The joke is at the character's background: i.e. her being somewhat of an 'uber' character. Its not an accusation about the way you play the character... as far as I can tell, people come back to your RPs: which I doubt they would if you were really godmodding.

But roleplayers can't look at an ancient vampire/angel without mentally adding "half-dragon, psychic, raised by wolves, parents killed by drow, last of their race, born in the underdark ('cos everything is harder down there), Chaos worshiping (for the GW fans)..." And so on.
Too much power-giving background leads to 'genetically engineered to be better than you' in our minds. *shrug* Its nothing personal.

Sorry to hear that you are being tortured but... *shrug* everyone knows that vampires are evil.

(I am currently offering a reward to anyone who can shorten the word "Menelmacar" without resorting to "Siri")
OOC: I submit "M'elmac'." 8)

I'm suprised nobody gets that one... no wait, I'm not. "Alf" is from Melmac.

Men'car


I was going to suggest that one. Mencar... works.

*laughter* Oh, this is great...

Rave Shentavo is teh gorlila grodloader.

One question: Why does everyone hate Rave Shentavo? Was there horrendous godmodding, or what? I was just wondering what provoked the Godmod-O-Matic thread and the IGNORE volleys I've heard of.

OOC: I doubt he did anything godmodding... I just think that their just RPing stupidly...

Rave... you aren't the worst godmodder on the forums, you're just the person being joked at in this thread. The joke is at the character's background: i.e. her being somewhat of an 'uber' character. Its not an accusation about the way you play the character... as far as I can tell, people come back to your RPs: which I doubt they would if you were really godmodding.

But roleplayers can't look at an ancient vampire/angel without mentally adding "half-dragon, psychic, raised by wolves, parents killed by drow, last of their race, born in the underdark ('cos everything is harder down there), Chaos worshiping (for the GW fans)..." And so on.
Too much power-giving background leads to 'genetically engineered to be better than you' in our minds. *shrug* Its nothing personal.

Sorry to hear that you are being tortured but... *shrug* everyone knows that vampires are evil.



OOC:
To add to what Terrican was stating above: it's sorta godmoddy to go around thinking that you are the saviour of the world and that if anything happens to you the world will collapse. (I've been keeping track of your trial; yes, you did state that the entire fate of humankind is in your hands)

ICly: Lady Siri, did you get my TG? And where are the crazy critters? The Nation of HARU is waiting... "A Crazy Critter in every pot!!!"

*ahem*

“she”

*ahem*

“she”

OOC: *bangs head against the wall for the mistake*

Sorry... I forgot that it was a "she"... :oops:

(I am currently offering a reward to anyone who can shorten the word "Menelmacar" without resorting to "Siri")

I've always used "Menel" until recently. Rolls off the tongue better.

Ignored.

(Hey, someone had to do it. :wink: )

OOC: *bangs head against the wall for the mistake*

Sorry... I forgot that it was a "she"... :oops:‘s ok… just pay attention next time… oh and happy 999th post day!… or something like that…

To be honest, I just have my character disbelieve anything that is celestial… they may humour them a little but most of them don’t think that the world is coming to an end…

*whistles* not that it matters… the plot is completely linier and anything that could disrupt it is ignored or absorbed… which makes sense when you have a idea in mind, loads of people do it.

I must admit though… the end of the world will happen for Iuthia should their leader die… it’s getting to the point where if my leader died the people would demand war without looking too hard into who really did it… at one point I thought WV was going to accidentally kill my leader and force my nation into one of the bloodiest wars again religion you could imagine… more so because they would have not known it was WV and would have just declared war on any nation that fit the mould… thankfully he didn’t die because he got help in the end… but he did take a DU round to the leg and almost lost it…

I must admit though… the end of the world will happen for Iuthia should their leader die… it’s getting to the point where if my leader died the people would demand war without looking too hard into who really did it… at one point I thought WV was going to accidentally kill my leader and force my nation into one of the bloodiest wars again religion you could imagine… more so because they would have not known it was WV and would have just declared war on any nation that fit the mould… thankfully he didn’t die because he got help in the end… but he did take a DU round to the leg and almost lost it… *plots*

I just need an IC reason ;)

Bah… he would have to die in a long-winded RP preparation, which builds up to it. I wouldn’t except anything like a quick post about how you were climbing a bell tower and then shooting him in a clichéd movie way… I would just have men in suits pop you off before you had a chance…

No, it would require a certain amount of preparation, you’d have to explain how you got the murder weapon into the nation (we have banned guns for all except military and police) and then how you found out the required information and then you would have to maliciously plan it without giving away your intentions to the highly patriotic people, who may have tons of freedom, but they will turn you in if they suspect criminal activity. Then you would have to get it right and well…

The nation loves their leader (in my mind) because he turned their nation into the 450th happiest nation in the world (actual UN stat) and you would have killed the man who did that. If they find out it was you before the public stop mourning then they will declare a unlimited war against you… the kind that looks very much like a jihad… first it will be rational, but fierce. Then it will become more desperate as they try to win… allies will be called in (though they won’t necessarily help) favours will be called… all focused on one nation with one goal. Vengeance.

That’s pretty much what I’ve got planned for James… as such I protect him carefully and would prefer that he didn’t die. I’m still ironing out my army…

OOC: Iuthia, if that's part of your country's story, fine. Keep your leader around for eternity. RS is claiming the entire world will cease to exist if she dies...THE WORLD DAMMNIT!!! That's just wrong man, wrong I tells ya.

heh... only two ways to kill my nation's leader *shifty eyes* and I'm not saying, even OOCly *grins* but I have a Goddess, so is she did finaly die it wouldn't be the end of the world or anything... just one of the other Gods or Goddesses would have to take over her duties for her :wink:

[note: Joke]
Yes pure god mod...I mean come on, the leader of Eris is a goddess can you get anymore god modish...wait my leader is the god son of said goddess...f***

No, No reason to complain....no reason for any apples to be sent, or fnords...actually The Overlord would like a new pet....so you can send a fnord. Just a little one, the big ones are hard to potty train.

*snickerfit* your horrible hehe, but that's a point I was making in a differant thread hehehe I'm the biggest GODDESSMODDER!

http://www.cybersluagh.com/lynn/lynnsm.jpg
~~~IvyLynn~~~
~Eris's Player~
The Empire of Eris Kallisti (http://www.cybersluagh.com/ErisKallisti)

OOC: Iuthia, if that's part of your country's story, fine. Keep your leader around for eternity. RS is claiming the entire world will cease to exist if she dies...THE WORLD DAMMNIT!!! That's just wrong man, wrong I tells ya.

Part of my point was that my characters don't beleive her IC when she says IC that she is the only thing cabable of saving the world... I don't think James has been told by Rave (the character) herself that she is all important but one of the others told him off for losing someone who is important to the world... we apologised for the lose and then told them that we will try, however we were not happy (IC) that they were blaming us for not being able to secure Rave against something even she couldn't stop...

And that we almost lost our leader thanks to some stray DU rounds. He may of even fallen into a coma and lost a leg had Malice not ghouled him.

Point is that if a IC claim is outrageous, I IC ignore it… for example if you were to say “I am teh GOD” then I would IC ignore it and probably laugh…



* Note that in any roleplay my leader can die, providing your determined enough. If you just kind of spray some bullets in his direction he will be hurt, not killed, if you actually try to kill him and it is deemed you can (he’s not strong or anything, its just that you can’t say your going to use a spork unless you are capable of damaging him with it) then he will die and god have mercy on your nation.

I am caught between flaming Menelmacar or applauding her, ahh to hell with it.

[onrant]First off, Menel you should know better, you really shuould know better, being a mod and all. Remember, even if you are not speaking as a mod, people still think of you as a mod. And think of this as an example to the younger players, "You can insult other plays if you wish" that is what you are saying. And also, WOULD PEOPLE STOP PICKING ON RAVE.

[/offrant]

EDIT: Fixed a bad tag

The crazy critter stepped out of the Menelmacari genetic labs...

It's a n00kular-powered turbocharged pyrokinetic stealth Teheted cloaked Resi-nanoed flying sexy winged Kryptonian First Slayer psychic ninja Hydra tank Vala magician hacker Thiede dragon Old One spider Jedi Sith demon angel uberlizard changeling Vorlon vampire god with horns and a tail, genetic and quantum cybernetic enhancements, an immunity to kryptonite, more arms than Kali, an Eye of God in each shoulder, and a really cool deep voice! Armed with a superlaser, Stormbringer, Mournblade, Excalibur, a flaming sword, Grond, Darth Maul's lightstaff, a n00kular sunlamp and a pair of electro-whips, wearing chain mail, rollerskates, a black leather catsuit, all the rings of power, and the One Ring - on every finger!! On a fiery steed that's in Shinzon's warbird that's on a Vorlon planetkiller that's in the Death Star that's in a freakin' invisible tank!

Fear, Shentavo! The bell tolls for theeeeeee!!! :twisted:

OOC: This is, of course, just me and a bunch of other folks on IRC making a point.

~Siri

The wonderful nation of Vegana now presents their own pirated improved version of this creature. It now comes with an extra 40,000 years of age added retroactively, pointy ears and stonewashed. Could it get any better?!

a bunch of useless garbage

oh come on! this is a joke thread! It's funny! It's not entirely supposed to be an insult, and if Rave wasn't such a stick-up-the-ass, no one would have a problem.

(Personally, I believe that her being such an uberserious wank makes this even funnier).

As for picking on Rave? You do stupid things, people will mock you. You do godmodish things, people will mock you. Hell, I get picked on all the time because of my fleets, does it matter? Absolutely not. I play this game because it amuses me, not to try and "fit in" with the "in-crowd" on Nationstates.

People are harsh, people are vindictive, people will make insulting remarks. Get over it, or go and hide in your little cave and cry yourself to sleep.

The world is a big place, full of hostile things. Grow a skin, or die.

a bunch of useless garbagemore useless garbage

My point is that some people tend to take this personaly, does any one here remember Klamath, as I remember, he got flamed, and went crazy, spammed nost of the boards as I remember. I doubt that would happend to Rave, but still, this is teaching new nations a very bad lesson.

My point is that Menel should have known better.

EDIT: Quote tags are not being plesant to me today

san[/i]]Relatively good point

I still find this thread funny, even though I agree with you Thelas...

Though personally I like it when someone criticises me... it gives me the right to get pedantic... though I usually don't need an excuse. Meh... I've been ranting way too much resently, I guess it's just one of those "I'm coming back from work and I've had a lousy day" sort of things...

I wonder if anyone is getting anoyed at my habbit of doing this...

Thanks for the complement, and the suffix (That was Jappanese I think, a mark of respect, well, at least that is what I think it is), I find this a bit funny too, just I really think that Menel should know better, but as not to beat a dead horse.

I also feel like I have been doind a lot of ranting recently, mostly at the mods, something I never have done in the past. As a friend of mine says, "I think it must be the solar flare". (That was said after we witnessed the fifth car crash in one day)

I respect Rave Shentavo, and like the way she write.
I also respect Menelmacar, and I see her as my "Older sister".

I'll be neutral in this one, however, the first post of this thread was very funny, it's a shame that it was related to Rave.

<snip>

Oh, really?

No, i would NEVER RP getting all the equipment in, the people, making the right contacts, working on a time schedule, sending half a dozen TG`s just to get ooc information about the place, national characteristics, etc. etc., i would JUST do it like this:

'I shoot your leader, elect a new one.'

~ Ministry for ooc affairs

MOD ALERT! Obvious sillyness!

Couldnt resist

1) A terrible first name. Not only is it silly, but she seems not to notice how utterly daft it is. Admittedly, this one is Rave's parents' fault, as well as that of those sponsoring the event where she was obviously conceived.

2) I respect the rights of others to play uber-tech, comic book supers, elves, vampires, Martians, ghosts, baby bunnies, what have you... Just because I respect their rights doesn't make any of those particular exercises respectable, unless they're done well.

3) Rave Shentavo's High School for Uber Beings. I actually briefly considered joining this RP. Don't get me wrong -- it looked like it was going to be a lot of fun -- in a really daffy over-the-top kinda way. But it's clearly an idea best implemented with tongue so firmly in cheek that it might burst through.

4) From name to character concept and beyond, it's clear Rave's the product of too much bad anime, and has all the KEWL features of high-end anime but none of the content that makes good anime worthwhile.

5) An utter lack of recognition (in the posts I've seen) of the humor inherent in said name, character concept, etc.

Also, if I may be so bold as to attempt to improve on an idea by the venerable Siri: I believe, darlin, that you forgot to mention the model's hyper-catgirl and platypus genes.

Jackson Trax
Peer of the Federated Republic
Dangerous Thoughts

Geordi says,

"The Pakleds are neutral in this matter. Not that anyone cares..."

"Can you make our ship go?" asked the Pakled Captain.

<snip sarcastic crap>

I didn’t mean to insult you Der Angst, I know you’re a good role-player… I was just making a point of explaining it because… well… I think I know everything.

I mean, I know you guys are better role-players then me (by general consensus) but I’ve still got to say it because someone may try to do it without taking that into consideration… damn, if I knew you would of taken offence to it then I would of kept my mouth shut.

I haven't been doing this RP thing for awhile, people can probably realize that by my involvement in thread or my creating them, but I know when someone can do a good job. There are a lot of your out there that do. I respect that and hope I can reach that creativity. Keep up the good work and keep inspiring people to continue to think and use maybe both sides of their brains.

There's all sorts of godmodding. Only one of them involves ancient uber-powerful invincible characters (although even some people condemning Rave in this thread have notably fallen prey to that sort of godmodding).

Like Siri herself

Yeah, but who really wants to create a character and have them die. They are like your children. Would you really want them to die? I suppose that is why they choose to godmod their characters. I think we are all guilty of that one.

[Puts his hand up]

Yup, James got shot at with DU rounds which should have killed him... I kind decided at the time that with the farseer using "Fortune" (an ability which increases allies chances of surviving) James would be able to dive for cover in time only and only get injured a little (in the leg) and then slowly bleed to death.

Then Amanda came into his dream and cast healing magic on him... which stopped the bleeding but put him in a coma (effect of the dream and becuase it twists the effect nicely) finally the blood given to him from the nice Malice, the vampire, helped him regenerate enough to break out of the room before the wisp killed him... I think I've decided that I've lost four men in that thread due to the presence of the wisp near my sadated men...

Overall the whole thing worked out in the end, but I still jumped through hoops to keep my favorite character from dying and causing a jyhad again vampire hunters.

Depends, I have been through several kings, King Dorl was blown up along with his ship with a cruise missile, King Ashagar got axed by 50 assassins and King Latira died in the hostital after a pulse Gerenade attack.

But everyone likes your character James. I think we would be sad to see him go. I think though I would give more credit to a person who can create a character make them strong, but still be able to have them die. Besides you think you might get bored with having a godmod character all the time. I think that is why I have a lot right now. Makes things more interesting.

Where is Rave anyway? I haven't seen any progress re: her trial in WV.

And cudos to Joanna of Lavenrunz for having her main character killed off. Everyone loved Empress Joanna even those who disagreed with her; she's a great RPer/writer.

OOC: Iuthia, if that's part of your country's story, fine. Keep your leader around for eternity. RS is claiming the entire world will cease to exist if she dies...THE WORLD DAMMNIT!!! That's just wrong man, wrong I tells ya.

Part of my point was that my characters don't beleive her IC when she says IC that she is the only thing cabable of saving the world... I don't think James has been told by Rave (the character) herself that she is all important but one of the others told him off for losing someone who is important to the world... we apologised for the lose and then told them that we will try, however we were not happy (IC) that they were blaming us for not being able to secure Rave against something even she couldn't stop...

And that we almost lost our leader thanks to some stray DU rounds. He may of even fallen into a coma and lost a leg had Malice not ghouled him.

Point is that if a IC claim is outrageous, I IC ignore it… for example if you were to say “I am teh GOD” then I would IC ignore it and probably laugh…



* Note that in any roleplay my leader can die, providing your determined enough. If you just kind of spray some bullets in his direction he will be hurt, not killed, if you actually try to kill him and it is deemed you can (he’s not strong or anything, its just that you can’t say your going to use a spork unless you are capable of damaging him with it) then he will die and god have mercy on your nation.

It's a similar thing for my characters. Every single character I have ever put in the same RP as her would be happy for her to be tied to a stake and burnt, without a trial.

Just kill her on sight. Regardless of the problems with the world. ((Actually, two of my characters are working towards the goal of global destruction. No prizes for guessing who!)) She's a vampire, she can be killed. End of story.

OMG POWAR!

lol

For myself I do have characters that I would hate to have killed. But I wouldn't bend heaven and earth to keep them alive. After all, they may be like children but they did get themselves into that mess and if I had to godmod to pull them out then they're gone... and my other characters have to move on. And sometimes other nations blast them into space for little apparent reason... making it very difficult to use them in future RP (until I crash a space-based RP with a stolen shuttle :) , that is).

I play a troupe of characters... some I get to use far less than others... and keeping track of each of them is kind of a pain (names are the hardest thing, ironicly). If one dies then the others get to a) react to it and b) fill the role that that person had been in prior to death.

In the end, my national leaders are the least of my characters... they are the product of the way the nation works and they have had more than time to ready a protegee or replacement. Life goes on... so must Tarrican: even if some Nodian assassin-for-hire were to put a bullet into Alyssa Ruthvere, my foreign minister.

Where is Rave anyway? I haven't seen any progress re: her trial in WV.

That would be my fault, I am trying to IC find out it was WV and he has halted because I think he wants us to find out IC and start that line of action.

Yeah, but who really wants to create a character and have them die. They are like your children. Would you really want them to die? I suppose that is why they choose to godmod their characters. I think we are all guilty of that one.

I got quite a few of my characters killed...

Ok, it IS my fault, why was stupid enough to send them to The Reich <.<

Yeah, but who really wants to create a character and have them die. They are like your children. Would you really want them to die? I suppose that is why they choose to godmod their characters. I think we are all guilty of that one.

And this is the problem. Some people put a lot of effort into their characters. If they plan to annihilate their character, they already have an end in mind. Normally, they will neglect thoughts of an end. However, in an RP, the whims of others can affect their plans. When someone else, who's only playing the other side, comes into the game, s/he will try to remove a tough piece. But since there are no official rules for an RP, players may stretch the unofficial rules to save this prized piece.

In a battle between multitudes of pawns, "good" roleplayers always try to take "acceptable losses." But even the best roleplayers feel tempted to take a minimally acceptable loss. When plopped down in front of their computer, they can justify their moves, telling themselves that their tech and the abilities of their troops makes this action feasible. And this tendency is so much easier to slip into when the question concerns a queen instead of a pawn.

When they play with one puissant character instead of many faceless ones, the loss of that one piece is everything. So they stretch the unofficial rules, using the uberness of the character to escape. There is no gameboard, there are no finite limits placed on a character's abilities, and once again we see there are no official rules. Don't get me wrong; here, too, the good roleplayers will still accept the loss of a piece regardless of the esteem they hold for that piece.

I cannot know whether Rave has narrowly fled her own scythe :) many times since I have not read any of her roleplaying except WV's "and the verdict is..." thread(where, it must be said, I have not seen any ridiculous godmodding). However, I know I would fall into the habit of ridiculous evasions and narrow escapes. So, if you ever see me roleplay an uber character, feel free to shoot me :D

*edit: sorry if this post rambles...I've been up all night working on a paper. In case I am, I decided to bold my main point. You're welcome to skip the rest :)*

Wha Hell!

I'll take one o dem purdy things as mah wife!

Can she cook?

There's all sorts of godmodding. Only one of them involves ancient uber-powerful invincible characters (although even some people condemning Rave in this thread have notably fallen prey to that sort of godmodding).

Such as your uber-powerful invincible Voices that eat anybody using magic in your nation.

"Woah! Maybe I'd better change of fiancée," Vaughn shouted out of excitment.

ooc:

Uberpowerful characters are OK as long as you endanger them enough to have a challenge. It all depends how you RP them methinks.
Anyway, very very nice joke :)

Hell, if it wasn't for the fact that James has Kiara (not for long) he would of gone for one of these just becuase they have that added extra of being able to teleport into their owners bedrooms...

*ahem*

Of course... I wasn't talking about James deGritz... he's a nice man...

Seeing as how I'm in a positively insipid mood this morning, I feel like finally chiming in, now that this thread has reached some semblance of intellectual discourse.

I think it's time we face facts: each and every one of us godmodes a little bit. Whether it be WV's magic-eating überwhatsises or Resi's ridiculous quantity of nigh-undeafatabibble nanowank robots or Siri's invincible gravships/main character or Angelus's unstoppable ridiculousnessfleets or Rave's vampire angel robot ninja pirate Southern Colonel (heh heh... just got a great mental picture) or Melkor's hundreds of millions of bajillions of machine-gun-toting uruk-hai or my eleventy billion mile tall übersexay nekkid goddess avatar who fires big blue death bolts of no small quantities of DOOM... yeah. I think damn near each and every one of us is guilty of delving a bit into the epic.

Do I care enough to take it personally? No, of course not. You'll notice that what little I've said about Rave Shentavo was specifically about the depth of her character--which, incidentally, seems to be nonexistant. I will also, of course, chide her for placing the fate of the entire world on her character's shoulders if and only if her player truly expects the entire world to get blowed the hell up when Rave dies/goes comatose/malfunctions/gets eaten by magic-eating überwhatsises. Who cares if the character is a little delusional? How many times has a character truly believed the fate of the world is on his/her/its shoulders when faced with a tremendous conflict of some kind?

Rave has become a bit of a target as of late, and this is in no small part due to the fact that her legions of followers have been touting her as the best thing on this site. I will say this: Rave is a good writer, but not that good (not to mention the fact that she DESPERATELY needs a spell checker... or the in-character uses of "lol" that I've seen once or twice...). Hell, none of us are that good. On a good day, just about anyone here can type up a roleplay that stands out over all others. However, just because she's being so endlessly touted, does that mean everyone needs to constantly jump down her throat?

I'm one of Rave's biggest critics. On her critique thread, I pretty much laid down exactly how I feel. Now, I leave the choice up to the rest of you. Rave is not bullying anyone to roleplay with her, and there's no real reason to get personally offended if

A. she chooses to roleplay a specific style, or
B. another player chooses to poke fun at that style.

When Rave Shentavo sends out mass quantities of telegrams after her character's death stating, "Rave Shentavo has died. The world has ended. You may no longer roleplay on this site," then and only then will I be pissy. Until that day comes, I'm going to let her do her thing, so long as she's willing to listen to those who choose to offer constructive criticism.

-Bill, Pissed Off at ANYONE Who Makes a Mission to Constantly Give Hell to Another Player

(Please note, this was not directed at Siri's initial post, which was actually quite funny; rather, it was directed toward the ensuing debate. Also, Rave, I suggest you get a sense of humour about your character; after all, I was making fun of Perry von Slagalotz [one of my old characters... obviously] right up to the point where he had a heart attack on top of Mt. Corral. It's just a game, and there's no need to take a little good-natured humour so seriously.)

OOC:

Interesting read, Slag. IMO, character development is the key. Most of us tend to dig into their pasts without even realizing that building them a deep and meaningful story using the present is a far better option.
Death is just a specific occurence of change. From what I see around here (and that includes me), we all have great difficulties at making our characters change - generally we use death as our final proof of failure.
I guess everybody knows I RP (ahem... used to RP) with Rave quite a lot. It didn't prevent me from ranting in one thread because I felt like it was going a little too far in the look-at-me attitude. But then again, this is all for fun and power as nothing to do with the quality of a character, from the weakest to the stronger.

Damn, I don't even know if I make sense... oh well.

I must agree with the two previous posts. I think that even if you had an insignificant human, but have a depth to that characters personality it makes for a better read. Now, don't get me wrong I did enjoy the threads that I was with Rave, but there needs to be a development of that character, which can be shown through actions. But more so through thoughts of the characters. I know some might not like to use that, but it is hard to connect with that character just by actions when we don't know the underlying reasons for those actions. Yet, I suppose I shouldn't say anything. My writing isn't the greatest and I am not sure if my characters are strong internally or extrenally yet. We all have something to learn from one another. Hopefully this thread has shown that instead of "making fun" of someone else's work, which I don't think it was intended in the first place, but I don't know.

Damn, I don't even know if I make sense... oh well.

OOC:Yeah... that made sense.

Yeah, but who really wants to create a character and have them die. They are like your children. Would you really want them to die? I suppose that is why they choose to godmod their characters. I think we are all guilty of that one.

I do it...I get bored with them some times...

Now they only die well-RPed...but..

well...sometimes I make characters do die...

read page 8: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=91315&start=140

Kris Krimm (a character of mine who I've RPed with about 3 times) dies...in a rather horrible way at that...

Then Amanda came into his dream and cast healing magic on him... which stopped the bleeding but put him in a coma (effect of the dream and becuase it twists the effect nicely) finally the blood given to him from the nice Malice, the vampire, helped him regenerate enough to break out of the room before the wisp killed him...*chuckles* your wellcome... but because Malice came back tohelp you he couldn't get away and is now trapped by WV :cry: hehehe *points finger* you must help -him- now. *grins* btw, yer character is bloodbonded to him now, and will want tohelp get him out *evil cackle*

I have a few uber powered characters. Malice, for example, is pretty uber (by WoD standards), but he's still got his weaknesses. All my uber characters have major downfalls, even my empress.

http://www.cybersluagh.com/lynn/lynnsm.jpg
~~~IvyLynn~~~
~Eris's Player~

Then Amanda came into his dream and cast healing magic on him... which stopped the bleeding but put him in a coma (effect of the dream and becuase it twists the effect nicely) finally the blood given to him from the nice Malice, the vampire, helped him regenerate enough to break out of the room before the wisp killed him...*chuckles* your wellcome... but because Malice came back tohelp you he couldn't get away and is now trapped by WV :cry: hehehe *points finger* you must help -him- now. *grins* btw, yer character is bloodbonded to him now, and will want tohelp get him out *evil cackle*

I have a few uber powered characters. Malice, for example, is pretty uber (by WoD standards), but he's still got his weaknesses. All my uber characters have major downfalls, even my empress.

http://www.cybersluagh.com/lynn/lynnsm.jpg
~~~IvyLynn~~~
~Eris's Player~

Naturally...characters need flaws to have depth

James's Weekness: He's a human... oh and now he has a very weak link with Malice.

Anyways, I can't just stomp into a nation when I don't know where the trial is taking place, your co-ordinates will help me know where the nation is, but we are pretty sure it didn't some from the same place the trial is taking place.

We need to talk this out first becuase WV is strong enough to make an invasion fall. I can't raid him without knowing where to raid so I have to talk it out, using the strength of growing support to initimidate him a little if I can, becuase we don't want to loose millions of men over a big war. But if it comes to it I may go to war, I really don't want to but I have to help however I can.

I'd love to do my own raid, but that itself requires the above information and co-ordination, I've got some drop pods too, but I would need space superiority (maybe SS can help there). We'll just have to see when WV responds to us, if he doesn't respond to the press release, we can use your information to contact him on a proper channal.

All I have to say about all of this is:

It is about time that we all realize that not everyone role plays the same on here.

Therefore, we should stop repremanding every god damn other player who does not play "your" style of role play. For crying out loud, it is just a game and everyone is different.

So what Rave chooses to play a different way then the rest of you. If you do not like it, then ignore it, plain and simple.

No offense to anyone, but I had to open my big mouth.

Meh… I don’t mind so long as everyone in the thread is ok with it. People may not like incredibly powerful characters but I don’t see what the problem is so long as the people in the RP itself don’t mind… if you don’t want to RP with someone’s powerful character then keep out of the thread, it’s that simple.

This thread however, is in jest. It’s not really meant to be taken seriously and it’s just an on going joke… it’s a shame that it is focused on Rave, who isn’t a bad role-player… she’s just… ambitious. Overall her ideas are kind of original (I’ve not seen enough to say otherwise) and people enjoy them, I’ve been in around four of her threads and I’ve been pretty happy with the way they’ve turned out.

And HARU, please, don’t make this thread personal… that’s how flaming starts and it won’t do anyone any good.

Basically, to reiterate: if you don’t want to role-play with powerful characters… don’t.

It's already been said Der Fuhrur Dyszel, but it's nice to see the message said again, people should keep out of something if they don't like it. Though I don't mind parodies... I thought Bubba Shentavo was great.

*ahem* anyways, being in some of Rave's threads and accepting it (mostly) gives me some reason to rant... I shouldn't but I still do it.

I don't agree with that. If you don't like something talk it out. Sometimes people change their minds. Voice what you want. Debate is good. I know I have been able to change my mind frequently. I do not think people should make other people feel inferior and that I will stick by, but if people want to complain as a coping technique well let them. They don't have to isolate just because they don't agree and we don't have to agree on everything that would be very boring.

I don't agree with that. If you don't like something talk it out. Sometimes people change their minds. Voice what you want. Debate is good. I know I have been able to change my mind frequently. I do not think people should make other people feel inferior and that I will stick by, but if people want to complain as a coping technique well let them. They don't have to isolate just because they don't agree and we don't have to agree on everything that would be very boring.

Yes, talking does work out mostly all problems; I agree with that. However, bashing and rude blatant comments or belittling someone because they choose a different style is the arguement that we are defending.

Sure, mostly all will agree with you on that one. Talking does solve a majority of the problems, but from what I read, this has gone a little beyond talking about.

I am just defending the fact that we are all unique and we should respect each other's uniqueness. Moreover, if they have a serious problem with it, then talking one on one with the person is the answer.

Iuthia, I did not read that. Sorry, sometimes I do not read an entire thread before posting. I just read some of it and felt compelled to post, not knowing you were already ten steps ahead of me.

Sorry, I was venting and jumped the gun. I normally do read an entire thread before posting though, unless it exceedes so many pages.

I just said I do not like it mean people rant and rave. I would not like to make anyone feel inferior and I do not like to see that.

[quote="Underaloz"]"Woah! Maybe I'd better change of fiancée," Vaughn shouted out of excitment.


Rave:*eyes twitches* What did you say dear? :P
(anyway...i'm currently dealing with that...if you haven't heard of the end thread...)

I see. Same here. The only people I belittle for pure enjoyment are my friends, but they know I do it all in good humor. I am one of those people who defend anyone who needs it.

Meh. As far is this thread is concerned, I'll read everything...and take every criticism, and evaluate each as I have been doing. There are actually rants I love, and are that of Iuthia, because everytime, no matter who it is too, the quality of the rp becomes better. God I know I've gone off on many rants before.
However, if Rave was uber, then she would have not been beaten up and taken. She would have not been killed and would have managed to save Vaughn...(What's mine is yourse), She would have been able to take on everyone during the ambush at the mansino...but was captured, chained, tortured, then saved by others. She does have a major downfall for people she cares for as well as others. Anyway I'm done...continue this multi-rant. As I said, I don't just ignore criticism...and I've already gotten a fair share of it because I asked for it in another thread about two weeks ago. :) Alright I'm done. As you were.

That would be constructive criticism.