NationStates Jolt Archive

I would like to create an RP where more than just "200,000 men" can fight. This RP will be solely strategical and tactical but concering millions upon millions of men.

There will be no annexing and the bringing in of other nations after it has begun will be illegal (to avoid confusion such as the one I had with Tortuga).

The field will encompasse Europe, from Portugal to Russia and from the British Isles to the souther tip of Italy. Africa will also be involved, as well as Asia. I want some 30 nations with armies of over 5 million to fight and split into the a series of fighting alliances.

The entire point of this is to make a REAL war RP but with more than just 6 digit armies.

Nations Currently Enrolled

The Macabees - Valencia
Malatose - Moscow to Volgograd
Exetonia - Plymouth
The Sword and Sheild - Barcelona
Arribistan -
Super American XV Man - Indo China
Soviet Trasa - Berlin
Artitsa - Warsaw
Foxxinnia - Stockholm
Kisnesia - Azores
Euroslavia -
Largent - Beijing
Aequatio - Antwerp
Tahar Joblis - Cyprus
Zossen - Copenhagen
Tyrador - Palermo
Dark Terror - Leningrad
Granpais - Belgrade
Intergalactic Hell - Madrid
Isolationist People - Instanbul
Armacor - Cairo
CHS CitiBank Corp - Gibraltar
Agnosticium - London

Also, reinforcements are allowed, total war is allowed, and the conscription of troops is allowed...

I'd love to but, seemings as i'm so young i doubt u'd let me in but, good luck with it, should make and interesting read.

(( The Tortugan War was not limited to 6-digits, it's that you had approaching to 8-digits in a warzone that required only about 600,000 to run into little or no problems ))

Sounds interesting...

Europe you say? Is this modern tech or what?

Its modern tech but NS tech (such as mine... the Pz. VIII which is not the RL tank) is allowed.

I'll consider it.

I'd love to but, seemings as i'm so young i doubt u'd let me in but, good luck with it, should make and interesting read.

I would let you in but I would suggest that you be a Romania or a Hungary... as in giving limited amounts of troops and place them under allied command, such as the Romanians did in WWII.

I'm in....

Would Turkey and the Cacausas (Sp?) be on the map? And also, I'm assuming you would use the forces of your nation, but not your nations geography, so would you just pick a current-day nation and call it your nation?

All of Asia, Europe and Africa would be included... the reason I dont add the Americas is because I want to reduce naval warfare to the eastern Atlantic and to the channel.

Well, we use our own forces BUT we dont claim entire nations as ours... I would say have a starting operation base such as lets say the Moscow Discrict, or the Rhine and start from there...and then base alliances on regions to create stable fronts.

Ok, consider me in. I'd love the chance. (my forces stand as follows, not god modded, actually bought:

150 x Longtoms - uprated to modern
1000 x Rocket artillery - as above
50 x Long tom 3's - as above
350,000 x M41A Pulse Rifle
100,000 x Wagoogenizer
400,000 x army uniforms
400,000 x m16 a2 rifles
400,000 x mk XIX Desert eagles
400,000 x Combat knife
400,000 x kevlar body armour
400,000 x Gas Mask
400,000 x Binoculars
100 x Desert Eagle
1000 x mod 3 machine guns
10,000 x M224 60mm LWCMS
1,000 x SV-98 Sniper rifles
1,000 x SP-10 Magnum
100 x M48 medium tanks
40 x T-62AGM Soviet tanks
10 x F16A/B
10 x A-1 AMX
10 x AC-150 Tanker
100 x Upgraded GRAD MLRS
10 x 9K58 SMERCH-M Multiple Launch Rocket System
100 x 120mm NONA-SVK Self-Propelled Gun/Mortar System
10 x F-14E Ultra Tomcat
10 x F16A/B
10 x F/A-18 Super Hornet
10 x AN-70
1 x Franklin Osis Class CVL
3 x Sea Shadow
1000 x N-435 Stingray Armoured Hydroplane
1,000 x SNAL-1-B
420,000 x rockets for SNAL-1-B
2,000 x DIANA 25mm AA Cannon

State Stuff:
360x INF-8R Infiltrator riot/SWAT suit.
2700 x MRR-23 Multi-Role Policing Rifle. - these three for EEG
105 x URB-2 Riot Dispersal Mechs
50,000 x M41A Pulse Rifle - police force
1,500,000 x AK-47 - Police Only

I've added both of you in...

So I could like claim a base of operation on the Southern coast of England (Like where Portsmouth is now), I'm guessing it would be a city, so the fighting would be limited to these RL theatres. If I am correct in all this count me in

Ok, if it's min or areas, i'd like to claim plymouth down to the isles of scilly instead as well, i am a cornish man and would appreciate it. (is that ok?)

wouldn't mind joining...

Ok, if it's min or areas, i'd like to claim plymouth down to the isles of scilly instead as well, i am a cornish man and would appreciate it. (is that ok?)

From Plymouth to the Island of Sicily is almost all of France, that is a huge area of territory, sure you don't mean Taranto and Sicily?

I'll join.

no, that is cornwall!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In England!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

no, that is cornwall!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In England!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Ooh I see, sorry thought you had meant to write Sicily not Scilly.

hehhee, no problems, easy mistake to make :P

Yes you are correct theaters of operations are limited to the RL continents of Asia, Africa and the United States.

I'll claim the portion of Spain near and around Valencia, Valencia being my main base.

You have all been added.

I'll claim the area around Barcelona, Spain, with the city (Barcelona) being my Major Base of Operations

Plymouth will be mu major base of ops

I'll take the Indo-Chinese region.

EDIT: And my HQ will be the location of Ho Chi Minh City.

I'll claim Russia.. the area Moscow to Volgograd...Moscow being my base of operations.

I'll send 20,000 Black Cat Jets to whichever nation gives me the best offer. I wont join because i'm too little. These were bought.

Specs:
Weight:5,000 Pounds
Armaments: 2 ChainGuns Attached by Pilot, 8 Missles and 1 UnderSide Turret(not shown)

i'll enroll.


i shal take Germany and austria :twisted:

my current army size: 20,000,000.

40% is infantry

10% is airforce

20% is navy

30% is armor (tanks,artillery and ETC.)

That's a little bit too big even for a country your size. We are taking regions here, not countries (am i right?)

Artitsa shall join in. Im thinking of being in the region of... Warsaw?

This is not WWIII

The Amerigan Slaver War was WWIII

We are now up to either 5 or 6

I'll join. Could I have Scandanavia? Norway and Sweden? Base of opperations Stockholm.

REGIONAL - I:E an area from blah to blah not entire countries and certainly not 3 (even though they are small)

I have roughly 9.5 Million Fighting men available. Woohoo.

Sorry. I'll just take Stockholm and Sweden's coast of the Baltic. 75 Miles inland. And that's it. No wait from Malmo to Gävle. That ok?

hehehe, that sounds great, nice area to fight over to (strategic importance)

Kisnesia is interested in joining, and would like to be based out of the Azores, off the coast of Portugal.

We are a heavily sea-based nation, and have 15 million fighting men (in the case of a draft).

Yeah. You suckas will be fightin' to have my, Stragical Position, on your side.

well, i got a strategicaly important point to (being that it is the biggest naval port in england)

well, i got a strategicaly important point to (being that it is the biggest naval port in england)

Considering my heavy Naval incline, that makes you either a very valuable ally or the first enemy to be targeted.

I have a small but well equiped army

Total Fighting Force:
700,000
Army:
385,931
Navy:
139,327
Air Force:
150,372
Special OPs:
11224
Subterranian:
8391
Spies:
183
Biome Trapers:
1328
National Guard:
3244

The Suberranian have things called Moles that crawl under armored divisions to make them fall in to the tunnels the moles make.
Biome Trapers block roads by cutting down trees. They plant land mines. They also are equiped with light Automatic Crossbow by Foxxinnia Tech®. The user has it straped to the wrist and after fired the bow automaticly pulls back and loads another arrow. I'll tell more during the battles.

i'd like to be the netherlands. thank you

You will all be added this very minute. Can I ask SnS a favor? Since your a regional neighbor (Barcelona being only a little under 200km from Valencia, I believe) can I place my troops under your overall command (such as Romania and Germany)? I will tell you of the make up of my forces if you accept.

The reasons for this is that I really only have about 30 minutes to an hour a day to RP... but wait... if thats ok with everyone that only RP for a small amount of time I will continue to be on my own...

Ok this is confusion even me...

I would love to goin :D

I would love to join :D

Sounds good, what region (a city and the outlying area) would you like?

EDIT: Also, you may want to choose to be a Romania/Hungary type person, as in choose a reason and put w/e troops you can muster under the command of a larger ally, since your small.

I dont really care about the type of region I'm in and i dont think I want to be a Romania/Hungary type person

Sounds good...I'll put you in the Baltic region (Leningrad)

bump

You will all be added this very minute. Can I ask SnS a favor? Since your a regional neighbor (Barcelona being only a little under 200km from Valencia, I believe) can I place my troops under your overall command (such as Romania and Germany)? I will tell you of the make up of my forces if you accept.

The reasons for this is that I really only have about 30 minutes to an hour a day to RP... but wait... if thats ok with everyone that only RP for a small amount of time I will continue to be on my own...

Ok this is confusion even me...

Sure, how about this. I'll take command of your forces (Send me the list of all of them in the area, and I'll keep it updated as to what is where) and when a lot of action is going on, or we are about to go on a major offensive, or someone is moving dangerously close to the Iberian, I'll take command of them and deploy them where necessary, if you are not on when all of it is happening. Acceptable?




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"It takes the Navy 3 years to build a new ship, it takes 300 years to build a reputation, we must not let the Army down" Royal Navy Admiral Andrew Cunningham, upon being told it was too dangerous to risk ships to evacuate Army soldiers from Crete

OOC: Does anybody know of anywhere I can get good pictures on the Meuse crossing in 1940?

IC:

Sounds good. Let me compile the forces I'm sending and as the war continues I'll give you heads up of reinforcements and stuff. Would you prefer Telegram or E-mail?

OOC: Does anybody know of anywhere I can get good pictures on the Meuse crossing in 1940?

IC:

Sounds good. Let me compile the forces I'm sending and as the war continues I'll give you heads up of reinforcements and stuff. Would you prefer Telegram or E-mail?

Check T-grams

OOOH!

My nation is currently embrioled in a large scale civil war. My main nation, Bonstock, located on a Pacific island, has been taken over by communist rebels. The government continues holding out, based in Taiwan, in a Bonstocknian colony called Maropian Coast. The government has the support of Free Rumania, Omz222, _Taiwan, Thirtycaliber, some others, and probably Zecro. The rebels have the backing of Russian Forces and the entire Marxist Pact. Allready, the fight may embroil all of the Ryukyus, Taiwan, and possible the rest of Asia, if the rebels seek backing from Japann who is at war with the government allies of Sino, PRC China, and many other Chinese oriented nations. It could grow into your World War IX.

Well actually this war is a set-piece war that as nations we're organizing..it didn't brew from a "real" war...I just want to start a war with millions upon millions of men.

Also, to avoid confusing with such large numbers, for each seperate campaign make a new thread with OOC: WWIX in parenthesis. When shall we begin? One week from now?

I'm interested in joining in with this war, always wanted to try out my mettle with a huge amount of troops rather than police actions and conflicts with small amounts of troops.

Sign me up.

Good Day.

Will do!

Are we claiming our territory, bases of operation and forces yet? Or does that wait for a little later?

Are we claiming our territory, bases of operation and forces yet? Or does that wait for a little later?

We are doing that... in fact I should add that to the main post.

I'll take the United States with Washington as my Base of Operations if it hasn't been taken yet.

I'll come up with a list for my military numbers soon.

Has Ireland been claimed? If so I would like to participate. My capitol would be Dublin.

I'd like to join!!!

Edit: I understand now.

Is ALL of Asia included?

Has Ireland been claimed? If so I would like to participate. My capitol would be Dublin. BuMp

We arent taking entire nations. Just regions, such as my Valencia, SnS's Barcelona, etc..

All of Asia is included but the United States and the Americas are not. We want this to be a "continental" war where land armies can simply march to conquer and not rely totally on the navy.

Although, small islans, such as the Azores and the Balarics and allowed.

Ok so.. My base of operations is Warsaw.

Can Nazi Germany and Kurlej be included, we are already in a war, so we can be on two seperate sides. but i suppose im to young.

I would very much like to get involved in this. Could we occupy the Balkan Region?

Thanks,
Granpais

I would very much like to get involved in this. Could we occupy the Balkan Region?

Thanks,
Granpais

From my understanding you cannot have the entire Balkan region, that is actually several countries. You would have to choose a region based around a city, like say, Belgrade, and you would control everything within around say 100-150 miles around the city and that is all that you own, but you can march armies around outside it but you can't claim an entire country or region (Such as the Balkans, or the Mid-East)

((OOC: As a member of The Imperial Annex and under the Policies of that region, I am to abstain from directly interfering in a battle that is of no concern and/or advantage to the Annex. However, I will be sending small units of SPHATs for observation purposes in the area of Ireland.))

Specialized Patrol Heavily-Armored Trooper
http://www.geocities.com/makrogore/sphat.txt

Can I get in on this? If so could i get South Italy and Scilly with Palermo as base of operations
(the area once known as the kingdom of the two scillies )

Have the cities of Danzig (Gdansk) and Kaliningrad (Konigsberg) been claimed then?

Can I get in on this? If so could i get South Italy and Scilly with Palermo as base of operations
(the area once known as the kingdom of the two scillies )

You mean Sicily, Scilly (Islands off the coast of mainland England) is already taken.

Have the cities of Danzig (Gdansk) and Kaliningrad (Konigsberg) been claimed then?

As far as I know, only Warsaw has been claimed in the country of Poland.

Alright than Konigsberg will be my base of operations with Danzig being the major city.

Yeah I thought it was spelled Sicily but my spell checker said scilly lol. :oops:

Yeah I thought it was spelled Sicily but my spell checker said scilly lol. :oops:

np, the Kingdom of Two Sicilies thing and the Palermo thing kind of gave a hint of what you meant.

Has Antwerp and Belgium been taken yet?

Has Antwerp and Belgium been taken yet?


Not to my knowledge, though you should all remember The Macabees is putting this together, he has the list, but to my knowledge no

Hmmm... could Tahar Joblis operate from the base of Cyprus? Or, possibly, Cyprus and Crete?

i'll operate from Germany

Hmmm... could Tahar Joblis operate from the base of Cyprus? Or, possibly, Cyprus and Crete?

I would imagine you could have at least one, not sure about two, but neither is claimed at the moment.

i'll operate from Germany

What part of Germany?

the North half

Then if it hasn't been taken already, I'd like to request Belgium as my area with Antwerp as my base of operations and Brussels as my main city.

the North half

I'm fairly certain the North half is a bit too large, something like Rostock and the area around it, or Berlin and the area around it or like Kiel and the area around it

i'll take berlin area

((OOC: As a member of The Imperial Annex and under the Policies of that region, I am to abstain from directly interfering in a battle that is of no concern and/or advantage to the Annex. However, I will be sending small units of SPHATs for observation purposes in the area of Ireland.))

Specialized Patrol Heavily-Armored Trooper
http://www.geocities.com/makrogore/sphat.txt

((OOC: The prime area of operations for Dimeldish SPHAT teams will be from Leitrim to Cavan, not that it should effect any of your operations, mind you.))

ooc: Nice Kasrkin. Cept im pretty sure no future tech nations here.

Its modern tech but NS tech (such as mine... the Pz. VIII which is not the RL tank) is allowed.

It's modern tech as states by The Macabees

ooc: Nice Kasrkin. Cept im pretty sure no future tech nations here.

((OOC: *Laughs at recognition* Fair enough, just pretend its a very, very ugly assault rifle combined with a communications device for satellite uplink. I won't interfere with any of the battles, I'm just here on behalf of my nation to watch. That's what we do best.))

i own MANY panzer eights and created some Panzer nines :twisted:

The SouthPacific is preparing for war.

OOC: I am rather curious, even as something of a "set-piece war" as this appears to be planned to be, what the political setup may be here...

I'll claim the region of Amsterdam then.

Those who are on the list have been added (well obviously lol )... no future tech and as SnS said the point is to have a base city and the area 100 to 150 miles around it.

Do you need to know the forces that I will be having at my disposal?

Do you need to know the forces that I will be having at my disposal?

No.

BUT, It would be much more realistic (and help me write a "book" for NS on the internet for fun) if you all OOC'ly use directives such as those that the Germans used during WWII. These should outline forces used and plans for the offensive. Of course it would be OOC (and in your war threads) so your enemy can't claim to know your moves.

Sorry. I am moving to Copenhagen.

OOC:
Alrighty then, Ill take russia or St. petersburg and its vicinity.

OOC:
Bargh! I get volgograd.

Alright your added and Zossen has been changed.

Do you need to know the forces that I will be having at my disposal?

No.

BUT, It would be much more realistic (and help me write a "book" for NS on the internet for fun) if you all OOC'ly use directives such as those that the Germans used during WWII. These should outline forces used and plans for the offensive. Of course it would be OOC (and in your war threads) so your enemy can't claim to know your moves.

OOC: Can you link to a sample? Can't wait to see the map settle out and start figuring out politics and strategy... :D

*grabs Leningrad book*

Here is one of Hitler's directives to the ostfront:


Directive No.33, 19 July 1941

The Fuehrer and Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces
OKW/WFSt./Abt.L (I)
Nr. 441230/41 g.kdos
The further conduct of the war in the East:
1. The second offensive to the east has been.....
2. The objective of further operations should be.....
a)
b)
c)


Basically it should outline the operations, including the name of the operations and should outline the forces involve, in depth, as in to the core, from army group to division.

I will post mine (I made my first one) once this RP begins... cannot release top-secret information so soon...lol

By the way that is not the full directive..I just cut most of the points short...the directive took up 2 pages of the books.

Source: Glantz, David M., The Battle for Leningrad 1941-1944.

OOC:

Hmmm... OK, I'm looking at the map as it looks now, rough sketch ... so far, everybody except Super American VX Man is clustered around Europe. I'm noticing... well, a kinda big hole, and I'm sitting on the far edge of it. From the Urkaine to Turkey across the Balkans to the northern half of Italy and Switzerland is something of a big hole; also, so far nobody on the north coast of Africa.

Istanbul, Peloponesia, Kiev, Crimea, Dalmatia, Burgundy, and Hungary or Bulgaria look like good picks that nobody has taken ahold of here. I mention as a side note that - with the powers having been arranged the way they are right now - control of the Baltic looks like a prime point of contention. So... when do we begin? I have a distinct feeling of how some of the opening moves will play out.... and dang, we have about 12 billion pop worth of NS countries already.

I'll watch from the sidelines

((OOC: Not that I'm really taking part in this little war, I found another sample of Hitler's directives. I believe this one is during July 1941. The website is here (http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/1084/fuehrer_directives.htm/).))


The Fuehrer and Supreme Commander
Fuehrer Headquarters
of the Armed Forces
July 19, 1941

13 copies

Directive No. 33

"Continuation of the war in the East"

1. The second series of battles in the East has ended, along the whole front, with the breach of the Stalin Line and the deep thrust of the panzer forces. In the area of Army Group Center, mopping up of the strong enemy forces which still remain between the motorized formations will still require considerable time.

The northern flank of Army Group South is restricted in its freedom of movement and effectiveness by the fortress of Kiev and the Russian 5th Army in its rear.

2. The aim of the next operations must be to prevent any further sizeable enemy forces from withdrawing into the depths of Russia, and to wipe them out.

Plans will be made for this as follows:

(a) South-Eastern Front:

The most important object is, by concentric attacks, to destroy the enemy 12th and 6th Armies while they are still west of the Dnieper. The main Romanian forces will support these operations in the south.

The enemy 5th Army can also be quickly and decisively defeated and annihilated by co-operation between forces on the south flank of Army Group Center and the northern flank of Army Group South.

While infantry divisions of Army Group Center move southward, other forces, chiefly motorized, after carrying out the tasks assigned to them, securing their lines of communication and providing cover in the direction of Moscow, will advance south-eastwards in order to cut off the withdrawal of enemy forces which have crossed to the further bank of the Dnieper, to prevent their withdrawal deeper into Russia, and to destroy them.

(b) Central Part of the Eastern Front:

After the destruction of the many pockets of enemy troops which have been surrounded and the establishment of lines of communication, Army Group Center, while continuing to advance to Moscow with infantry formations, will use these motorized units which are not employed in the rear of the Dnieper line to cut communications between Moscow and Leningrad, and so cover the right flank of the advance on Leningrad by Army Group North.

(c) Northern Part of the Eastern Front:

The advance on Leningrad will be resumed only when 18th Army has made contact with Panzer Group 4 and the extensive flank in the east is adequately protected by 16th Army. At the same time Army Group North must endeavor to prevent Russian forces still in action in Estonia from withdrawing to Leningrad.

Early capture of the Baltic Islands, which might be used as bases by the Soviet Navy, is desirable.

(d) Finnish Front:

It remains the task of the main Finnish forces, reinforced by most of 163rd Division, to attack the enemy opposing them with the main weight of attack east of Lake Ladoga and, later, in conjunction with Army Group North, to destroy them.

The object of the attack under the direction of 36th Corps and the Mountain Corps remains as already directed, except that stronger support from the air cannot be expected for the moment and operations may therefore have to be temporarily delayed.

3. The task of the Luftwaffe is, in particular, as forces become available from the Central front, to support operations on the South-eastern front at their most important point by bringing air and anti-aircraft units into action, and, if necessary, by early reinforcement or regrouping.

The attack on Moscow by the bomber forces of 2nd Air Fleet, temporarily reinforced by bomber forces from the West, will be carried out as soon as possible as "reprisal" for Russian attacks on Bucharest and Helsinki.

4. The Navy will continue to ensure the free passage of sea-borne traffic, especially of supplies for the land forces, as far as enemy activity at sea and in the air allows. Further, with the increasing threat to enemy bases, appropriate steps are to be taken to prevent the escape of enemy ships to Swedish ports, where they would be interned.

As naval forces in the Baltic become free, motor torpedo boats and minesweepers -- one flotilla of each to start with -- will be transferred to the Mediterranean.

To support German operations in Finland, which might be hampered by the arrival of enemy reinforcements by sea, a few submarines will be transferred to the Arctic Ocean.

5. All three branches of the Armed Forces in the West and North will bear in mind the possibility of British attacks on the Channel Islands and the Norwegian coast. Plans must be made for the quick transfer of air forces from the West to all parts of Norway.

Signed: ADOLF HITLER

I don't know if its too late or not, but I'm interested in participating in this.

I don't know if its too late or not, but I'm interested in participating in this.

Its not late at all... Im looking for the map to be filled. Please choose a cit. Your city plus 150m of radius will be your base of operations.

((OOC: Not that I'm really taking part in this little war, I found another sample of Hitler's directives. I believe this one is during July 1941. The website is here (http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/1084/fuehrer_directives.htm/).))
THANKS FOR THAT SITE!! This site has just become an imperative part of my research for a German book.

I have Hitler's entire stenographic records with his generals.

Hmm I have to fight malatose before I can fight for leningrad? Oh well.

is it to late to post what region you want? If not ill take Bejing, China.
Also, When will this start?

Hmm I have to fight malatose before I can fight for leningrad? Oh well.
I guess so...

Probably by Monday and no its not.

Okay I'll be ready :D

o IS leningrad anyway? not on the list!

o IS leningrad anyway? not on the list!

It used to be Largent...but he chose another region.

May I sign up, I really want to help II get some good rps, right now my other nation is involved in the ANTI CHRIST rp in ns, but ill still be on plenty to participate in this.

May I sign up, I really want to help II get some good rps, right now my other nation is involved in the ANTI CHRIST rp in ns, but ill still be on plenty to participate in this.

Sure what city do you want?

What page has the map and who controls what so far,

OOC:
Alrighty Im Leningrad and its vicinity not volgograd.

((OOC: Not that I'm really taking part in this little war, I found another sample of Hitler's directives. I believe this one is during July 1941. The website is here (http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/1084/fuehrer_directives.htm/).))
THANKS FOR THAT SITE!! This site has just become an imperative part of my research for a German book.

I have Hitler's entire stenographic records with his generals.

((OOC |AGAIN|: No problem. If you need help looking up more, I can check around the Net. Just let me know, I'll be happy to do it.))

I don't really have a city I'd like. Maybe Istanbul, but I'll go where ever a place needs to be filled.

May I controll Madrid

Hmmm... OK, I'm looking at the map as it looks now, rough sketch ...

Istanbul, Peloponesia, Kiev, Crimea, Dalmatia, Burgundy, and Hungary or Bulgaria look like good picks that nobody has taken ahold of here.

(I sketched out a quick map on my own based on looking at the first page and then leafing through the thread, but that's not in here anywhere. First page has just about everybody. I'm sure we'll have an official map after we get everybody settled. I am based in Cyprus; right now, there are people in Spain, Sicily, Moscow, Stockholm, Copenhagen, Berlin, Belgium, Warsaw, Amsterdam, the Azores, and southern England, to recall off the top of my head.)

OOC:
So when does this start?

I would very much like to get involved in this. Could we occupy the Balkan Region?

Thanks,
Granpais

From my understanding you cannot have the entire Balkan region, that is actually several countries. You would have to choose a region based around a city, like say, Belgrade, and you would control everything within around say 100-150 miles around the city and that is all that you own, but you can march armies around outside it but you can't claim an entire country or region (Such as the Balkans, or the Mid-East)

I'm sorry for my mistake. We would like to occupy the region of Belgrade then.

OOC: When will this war be starting? Will we recieve a telegram when it starts?

Thank you for your time,
Granpais

OOC: It begins on monday of next week... I will post a thread named "Mobilizations for WWIX" and that will be the first official war thread.

IC: You have all been updated or added.

I'm not on there. I'll do Istanbul and surrounding area.

Give me 2 seconds..

thx

bump

I've written Imperial Directive No.1 and the addition to it but I wont bring it out until monday in the "mobilization for WWIX" thread.

Alrighty. Sounds good.

We're still looking for people who want to join so please post something if you are. Also, those who don't claim a base soon will be deleted from the list, so claim your city!

Come on people youre running out of time.

Come on people youre running out of time.


Exactly. For all those RP'ers this is the time to show your skills because we are doing this with massive realism, going to the smallest details in directives, speeches and tactical movements.

Is this war just going to be an Imperialist-type thing, capture land from others and such? Or will there be alliances and such, so it's not just a mad free-for-all?

Is this war just going to be an Imperialist-type thing, capture land from others and such? Or will there be alliances and such, so it's not just a mad free-for-all?

Oh yea, alliance and everything. This is to the core realism with alliance webs, military treaties, armstices, etc...

How about news reports a la CNN? I don't get to many chances to use that in my RPing when my conflicts are so short.

How about news reports a la CNN? I don't get to many chances to use that in my RPing when my conflicts are so short.

How about news reports a la CNN? I don't get to many chances to use that in my RPing when my conflicts are so short.

WOW! Hell yes, add all the realism you would like. These are all great ideas.

Armacor would like to claim the region around cairo, especially the suez canal, effectively 30-35 degrees east and around 30-35 degrees north. This would ideally encompase the cities of Sharm ash Shaykh, Al Ghardaqah, Cairo, Port Said, Suez (in egypt), jeruselem, tel aviv (in israel), dubya and tabuk (in Saudi Arabia). This includes the Gulf of Suez and the Gulf of Aqaba.

I'll put down Cairon on the main page... but yea your good to go (I think).

We know we are only small (56M at this time), but would like the island of Gibraltar please :-)

Is this war just going to be an Imperialist-type thing, capture land from others and such? Or will there be alliances and such, so it's not just a mad free-for-all?

And after all, it hardly could avoid such. Alliances, treaties, betrayals... look at the listings, plot a map, and decide who would be a key ally, who might be a disposable ally... do you need access to the Black Sea? Access to the Mediterranean? Control of the Iberian peninsula? Who are your enemies? Hopefully not everybody... the largest country makes up only about 15% of the total population involved here, and most are crammed fairly closely on the map.

Personally, I'm detailing out a great deal about my army right now, and I'm setting forth immediate objectives for territorial control, containment strategies, and probable threat lists. I'm working out just how best to use dreadnaughts and looking at the three water exits from the Mediterranean Sea. I see that Exetonia has a strategic northern port location, but not much of a "real" wet navy, as far as I can tell. I, on the other hand, have a powerful and highly competent wet fleet and a reasonable air force, but am very poorly situated to operate either around Northern Europe. It might be a good idea for me to make an alliance there.

And aww, dang, Armacor just changed some of my plans :lol:

We know we are only small (56M at this time), but would like the island of Gibraltar please :-)


Gibraltar isn't an island last time I checked but Im happy to give you the peninsula, and that's what I will put.

I can't choose between possible targets right now since France is virtually open for pickings, so any attacks on other fronts I plan now may be ruined by people in France.

All have been added in!

I can't choose between possible targets right now since France is virtually open for pickings, so any attacks on other fronts I plan now may be ruined by people in France.

Speaking of pickings... I don't suppose I can assume a normal peacetime naval deployment with my fleets scattered around the world a bit to start with? This gets trickier and trickier...

Hmm... allies are a definite must in this game... several of them in the right places, at least. Dang, time to break out the map again.

What is the position for the neutral territories? ie can anyone playing just take them over?, and as TJ said do we have to have fleets in harbour?

We all know that France will just surrender if anyone even goes near their borders. :lol:

Sorry, I couldn't help it.

do we assume highest level of advancement for a region, if it is neutral - therefore if east europe was neutral then it would be 1988, US is same, china is now and so on...?

i'd like to be the netherlands. thank you

you dont have this on the front page...

We all know that France will just surrender if anyone even goes near their borders. :lol:

Sorry, I couldn't help it.


:lol:

The Netherlands is too large...he needs to choose a city.

do we assume highest level of advancement for a region, if it is neutral - therefore if east europe was neutral then it would be 1988, US is same, china is now and so on...?
We can't really RP neutral nations so Im just going to say..act as if it was empty and ready for manuevering.

That's why I want more people, because its kind of fake with massive open spaces. Im thinking that if we continue with this size I'll just have to allow the expanding of nations and such.

they have some forces but not many? and as it stands if they are empty give it a day and we will fill most of them....

also what time is the action going to get done? ie will there be orders issued and then at the conclusion of one day all the stuff done? otherwise it is a bit unfair if you log on to do something and someone else gets there first... for example if i wanted to invade france from egypt i am pretty sure anyone who invaded from spain or germany would get there first... however if i logged on before them i could be there in a fait accomple (sp)?

That would be a problem.... so we would have to be realistic and wait until the nations who have a chance to stop you actually reply... this might make is slow but I see no other way.

How many more countries until we start?

How many more countries until we start?

It begins unconditionally on monday.

So we just start killing eachother at mid-nite? Okay.

one possibility is to decide who will be fighting over an area, ooc, and set a referee who isnt involved in that section, then fight - if cant be resolved then go to referee... or the rest of the group...

damn... having resurrected my armies from hibernation i find that 200,000 men is very small compared to my new size.... i seem to be 100 armies short... i think only a few will be participating at a time.... :-)

ok... i have 6 land armies ready to deploy so far (100k effective each (up from 25k in january))... working on names and units for the rest...

i hate having to build units for 300k tanks and 21M infantry :-) (most of these will remain in cairo and near surrounds)

Okay so we are ok so we have a lot of people or yeah some but not many.

we could just let ppl join after battle has started... as long as they only have 150sq km to begin with. (and they dont appear in the middle of a battle field - so somewhere in asia, africa or siberia at the moment i think)

It might seriously de-stablize the war though.

Anyway I have already put together the force I will be using, and my first plan of action is already being thought out.

true i guess... may i ask what you would consider a "fair" number of troops for this war, for your nation?

Yeah, I don't like the idea of letting people join after the war has started, unless there's a plan to let like neutral people in, but that would get complicated.

Also, since I've never been in a big war, I was wanting some input on my military. The way I've got it figured out, after my air force and naval units and ground vechicles (along with support people for all of that), I've got almost 6 million foot soldiers. Does this sound ok, or is it too many/too little?

Oh, and I'll get working on a map of the Istanbul area I'm gonna use, but I've got a big essay due on monday which is gonna take precedence.

i assume 2% pop for a small war and 10% once conscription and volinteers are introduced... This is for everything... i then use the making a military v2.1 excel thing to work out the rest..., its around here somewhere...

Well my nation really can't be used to compare for what would be a good number of troops, since the Army forces I will be sending number around 200,000 with a 70,000 Marine force. And this is my Wartime Army (Not all of it, it's about 60% of my combat Army forces, and 70% of my Marine Combat Force, this is not counting logistical troops). But this is becuase I have a huge Navy (Over 70% of my defence budget goes to the Navy).

But I would imagine the troops that most nations will be using will number in the millions, mine is a bit different however I expect I may have the largest Naval force in the area.


EDIT: Sorry, posted my total Marine Force, it now reads the correct number of Marines I may deploy.

i assume 2% pop for a small war and 10% once conscription and volinteers are introduced... This is for everything... i then use the making a military v2.1 excel thing to work out the rest..., its around here somewhere...

The 1-2% for peacetime is correct, but Wartime should never exceed 5% of your total population. And of that, about 45% is logistics, and the remaining that is combat troops, and of those combat troops, the numbers you use here should only be about 60-70% of your total combat forces (Since all nations maintain defense forces in their homelands, no matter how remote, even though in this war your homeland can't be invaded)

well i havent worked out my navy yet... according to the program i have around 2000 aircraft carriers... (with around 3200 crew each)... now to be fair considering my economy has been frightening since early feburary and i am almost a year old this is possible...

well i havent worked out my navy yet... according to the program i have around 2000 aircraft carriers... (with around 3200 crew each)

UMMM WOW

well i havent worked out my navy yet... according to the program i have around 2000 aircraft carriers... (with around 3200 crew each)

I'm wondering what program your using, 2000 is a godmode even for your nation, sure you don't mean 2000 Naval ships (As in frigates, destroyers, and cruisers as well as Carriers)

well...
10% pop in armed forces (inc reserves) = 191M
27% Naval = 51M
60% combat effective = 31M
60% on warships = 14M
42% of all crew on aircraft carriers = 6M
by 3200 per ship = approx 2000

just noticed an S&S post... halving to 5%

well...
10% pop in armed forces (inc reserves) = 191M
27% Naval = 51M
60% combat effective = 31M
60% on warships = 14M
42% of all crew on aircraft carriers = 6M
by 3200 per ship = approx 2000

I would seriously debate the 10% thing, as the accepted thing on NS is 5% for wartime (Including Reserves). And it's not just crew, the cost of maintaining 2000 Aircarft Carriers is huge, and would render the rest of your navy inoperable, and your Air Force and Army ill-equipped

this is why i hadnt done my navy... it seemed too big

The way I figured it out (don't have any excel program thingy) was based on 1% of my population in the military, including reserves. I haven't done much in the way of placing people in units besides naval and air, so I probably don't really have 6 million ground soldiers to throw into a fight. Was just wondering if that seemed like a good number to play with and cut down into units I could use.

sound real good to me :)

this still leaves me with 10M inf (mech) and 200k tanks, is this reasonable?

this still leaves me with 10M inf (mech) and 200k tanks, is this reasonable?

I believe so

when i was last RPing on this forum my pop was only 200M... so i having a little difficulty scaling it up :-)

Don't know if anyone has already made a play, but we will join. If no one has taken England... London if I have to take a city. Else I will go wherever else you'd like to put me.

Don't know if anyone has already made a play, but we will join. If no one has taken England... London if I have to take a city. Else I will go wherever else you'd like to put me.

London is free, the only other person on England owns Plymouth and the Islands of Scilly

I would like to take the eastern half, but if that is too much, how about London and Coventry?

Well I'm keeping my forces small and landing in reinforcements as needed.

Small I mean about 2 million men and 3 million support. My target is chosen and all of that. Also, even if you had 8 million men the first day and 6 million die (what a debacle) its still possible to have about 8 million the next day because your population grows. That's just a side note.

Also, I plan to make a map of the arena as soon as possible. I might not make it but I think I will.

i have a basic map - middle east large and most world centered on middle east with 4 nations on it so far... i may add the rest when i contact them (or get bored studying tomorrow) if you want then IM me on IBStormcaller at AIM or 116468774 ICQ

Then I'll make the map of Western Europe all the way Russia.

would that include us in china?

Now that my essay for school is done, I have time to get going on this (if the dang forums will let me stay on...). Anyway, I've the maps I'm gonna use for this on my drive. If anyone wants them, TG me and I'll email them to you. I need to post where my troops are starting out at still, so let me do that first. I'll also do a basic outline of where my troops might head, if you want that for ooc purposes.

Anyway, can't wait till this starts. Oh, what forum will it be started on, regular ns or ii?

ok, i am in control of the area Plymouth to the Isles of scilly (Cornwall) also, i just purchased a large navy/airforce so, the three bases will be working as one at last :D

Okay, if you havent started yet, I would like to join in.

Nation: Thefearful
Base of operations: South Africa
Main training area(holding area): Cape Town

(2% standing army, 2% ready reserves.)
(45% navy, 25% army, 30% airforce)

I'll try to get my forces posted soon...

my setup will be much the same as Thefearful except it will be 5% standing and 5% reserves due to conscription. is that ok?

Oh, wait, I just want to make sure, what sort of tech do we use? Completely RL existant technologies, modern/near-future realistic technologies, what?

Sould we get allies now?

Oh, wait, I just want to make sure, what sort of tech do we use? Completely RL existant technologies, modern/near-future realistic technologies, what?

As far as I know, its basically modern tech, with upgraded one's that NS is full of. I don't know how futuristic we're allowed to go, have to ask Macabees on that. But no spaceships is my understanding, would kinda take away from the whole thing.

I thought we'd develop allies from the players listed.....am I wrong?

Oh, and I'll list my forces sometime soon as well, still putting them together into army groups.

Plymouth Naval Battle group:

1 x command ship
2 x Nimitz Class Aircraft Carriers with 170 F/A-18Es
1 x Franklin Osis Class CVL with:
10 x F-14E Ultra Tomcat
10 x F16A
20 x F16B
2 x Helicopter Assault Ship with 80 Sea King ASW Helicopters
2 x hospital ship
5 x Arleigh Burke AEGIS Destroyer
2 x Iowa Class Battleship
3 x Arsenal Ship
1000 x Brahmos missiles (anti ship, sprea evenly accross fleet
3 x Sea Shadow
1000 x N-435 Stingray Armoured Hydroplane
30 x Scout Hovercraft

1st Cornish Special Forces:
50,000 x M-60 machine gunners
500 snipers
50,000 x fully armoured men armed with m16's and Desert eagles
all armed with 3 fragmentation grenades


1st Cornish regiment:
50,000 x M-60 Machine gunners
10,000 x M224 60mm LWCMS
500 snipers
350,000 fully armoured men (same armament as special forces)
all armed with 3 fragmentation grenades
100,000 wagooneisers

45th British armoured support:
1,000 x SNAL-1-B
420,000 x rockets for SNAL-1-B
100 x M48 medium tanks
40 x T-62AGM Soviet tanks
200 x 152mm MSTA-S Self-propelled Howitzer
5,000 x Gaz-3937 Mortar Carrier - 1bil
5,100 x Upgraded GRAD MLRS
510 x 9K58 SMERCH-M Multiple Launch Rocket System
1,100 x 120mm NONA-SVK Self-Propelled Gun/Mortar System
2,000 x DIANA 25mm AA Cannon
50 x Military Landing HoverCraft

Reservists:
1.2 million armed with ak47's and full body armour each with 3 frag
grenades.

Airforce:
200 x F-15E Strike Eagle
200 x JAS 39 Gripen
100 x F-117a Nighthawk
100 x F-15c
10 x AC-150 Tanker
10 x F/A-18 Super Hornet
10 x AN-70
10 x A-1 AMX
20 x B-52 Bomber

Ok, here's the forces I'm going to use:

Army:
6 million standing troops, divided into 6 Army Groups of 1 million men each, armed with various types of guns, AA & AT weapons and a few other supplies.

2-6 million in reserve, depending on amount of conscription used, to be outfitted the same as the standing armies as needed.

Air Force:
350 F-14E Super Tomcats
150 F/A-18F Super Hornets
200 F-15
100 F-16F
24 F/A-38 Mustang II
48 F-56 Rapiers
72 F-62 Dark Ravens
100 A-10 Warthogs
200 B-52 Stratofortresses
100 F-117 Nighthawks
100 B-1B Lancers
25 AC-130 Spectre
25 B-2 Spirit
300 AH-64 Apaches
200 MH-47E Chinooks
200 UH-60M Blackhawks
50 MH-53J Pave Low III
25 V-22 Osprey
50 KC-135 Stratotankers
50 C-141 Starlifter
35 C-130 Hercules
50 C-5 Galaxy
50 C-275 Cougar Dropships
25 AWACS
20 JSTARS
2 SR-105

Ground Vehicles:
50 Command Vehicles
7500 M1A2
500 M2 Bradleys
1000 WT-90 MBT
100 Mini-Gun Tanks
2000 Stoat APC
2000 Stoat AA
2000 Stoat LA
2000 Stoat AT
250 Flyers (recon dune buggies)
500 T-64 w/LB-5 armor
500 T-64 w/reg. Depleted Uranium/Steel armor
500 Mammoth Tanks
2000 Spartas Tanks
20 Saber Tanks
100 M-120 APC
250 M-110 recon vehicles
750 M-94 Puma
20 122mm SPH 2S1 Gvozkika
1500 MLRS
500 203mm SPH
500 M109 SPH
1500 88mm Artillery/AA
500 CFAM LBA5 Bowman Self-propelled gun
1000 Crusaders w/ammo carriers
7500 supply trucks

Naval Forces:
8 Command Ships
4 Nimitz Carriers
2 Hover Carriers
14 Battleships
15 Destroyers
20 Frigates
15 Aegis Cruisers
10 Elemental Air Defense/Anti-Sub Stealth Frigate
100 Shore/Shallow water patrol boats
25 Eva Offshore/Deep water patrol boats
20 Taruntul V FABs
35 LA subs
10 Ohio subs
15 Seawolf Subs
2 Ariel-class light carrier/attack sub
2 Drathar-class heavy attack sub
50 cargo ships
50 oilers
20 WASPs

EDIT1: increased ground vehicles
EDIT2: added naval forces

I would like to claim Amsterdam, thank you.

2.505% of the population serving. I subtracted 3/5 to count the non-combatant positions.

(Numbers rounded down to the nearest 100 for ease, unless numbers are small enough for a rounding to make a significand difference)
Terms in (parentheses) signify comparable RL units.
Anything in is just a certain note about that unit.
If you want to check the stats and/or descriptions of any of my made-up units, check my storefront (http://www.angelfire.com/ns2/toxicvalley/products.html).

[b]Infantry:

2,219,800 Marines [can use any small arm listed in my storefront]

170,700 Toxin Troopers

341,400 Shadows [can use any small arm listed in my storefront]170,700 Grass (Rangers)
113,800 Wet (SEALs)
56,900 Ghost (Snipers)

683,000 Officers

Armored:

118,600 Tanks
79,100 Cobra MBT
39,500 Gauss Tanks

38,700 APCs

45,000 Transport Vehicles

108,300 VXTTPs
36,100 MG
36,100 Stinger
36,100 TOW/ZHE

121,200 Artillery
50,900 Sorcerers (Paladin)
21,800 Firestorms
48,500 VX-A2 Missile Tanks [interchangeably AA and artillery]

Navy

750 Destroyers

300 AEGIS AA Support Cruisers

530 Submarines
500 Attack Subs
30 Missile Subs

2,200 Transports
500 Short Range [e.g. can cross the Mediterranean]
700 Long Range
1,000 Beach-headers

3 Nimitz Class Aircraft Carriers
45 F-100Na Sea Snakes [per carrier]
5 F-100Nb Sea Snakes [per carrier]
20 A-100A Copperheads [per carrier]
5 A-100B Copperheads [per carrier]
5 P-7 Long Range Air ASW Bombers [per carrier]

Non-naval Aircraft

15,000 Ground Attack Fighters
10,000 A-100A Copperheads
5,000 A-100B Copperheads

15,000 Air Superiority Fighters
8,000 F-100B Rattlesnakes
5,000 F-100C Rattlesnakes
2,000 F-200A King Cobras

2,000 R-50 Owl Early Warning Aircraft

1,000 P-7 Long Range Air ASW Bombers

1,500 Bombers
500 B-10A Pythons
750 B-52s
250 B-1s

1,500 AH-498VX Souix Heavy Gunships

2,000 Air Transport Units
1,000 Chinooks
1,000 C-130s

----------------------------------------------

How's that?

EDIT: Oops, forgot transport vehicles. Added those in.

all land armies have units of 1024 (if is a vehicle) or 10240 (if infantry)

combat armies are arranged as follows:
2 Iscariot Armies
2 Lancet Armies
2 Howitt Armies
1 SCARAB Army
1 MLRS Army
1 Storm Army
1 Haven Army
6 Infantry Armies

navies will be detailed later.
for this combat assume the following (cause i cant find all my files, when i do i will update)
Iscariot = M1A2 Abrahms
Lancet = M1A2 Abrahms with Microwave Pulse Cannon
Howitt = bradley
SCARAB = 120mm tube artillery
STORM = LAV-AD
Haven = Patriot
Infantry are equiped with M16's, Styer AUG and other assorted RW stuff


i will deploy armies as needed (and as i name them all)
i have 7 so far:
Associated Transit Incorportated (ATI)
Amalagmated Food Industries (AFI)
Global Entertainment Corporation (GEC)
Triannon
Valderia
Mirabel
Suberashii

OOC: Generally speaking, 1% total of population in the military (including support positions) is about reasonable for a militaristic nation, more in times of severe mobilization. 2000 carriers would be way too many... the thing isn't acquisition cost over time, but operating costs. Don't trust the budget programs, most of them are bogus and easily abused, and I'm noticing some ... erm, high figures here, even for heavy high powered RP. That said... on with WWIX. Tahar Joblis is a primarily naval power, traditionally... dang, I haven't updated my figures recently... hmm... I'll just quietly boost a few figures. My shipyards may just have to start cranking into wartime production rates.

Tahar Joblissan naval elements active for the purposes of WWIX as of current update:

Surface Fleet:
3 - Finback class carriers
4 - Walrus class carriers
8 - Dolphin class escort carriers
24 - Porpoise class light escort carriers
2 - Harrow Reef carriers

1 - Octopus class dreadnaught
4 - Ferret class dreadnaught
5 - Great Blue class battlecruiser
18 - Squid class cruiser
21 - Tentacle II class light cruiser

120 - Kraken class destroyer
40 - Sea Serpent class nuclear destroyer
60 - Ink class corvette

"Assorted" smaller vessels (quite numerous, actually...)

Submarine Fleet Intel Estimates:
What you might guess to be in our inventory...
9 Barracuda class vessels
est 40-60 other nuclear submarines, classes assorted
120 Manta class
100 Otter class
130 Assorted unidentified non-nuclear medium submersibles
est 300-400 "solar subs" - light vessels

Support Fleet:
Not going into details yet (bit busy atm) but yes, it is there.

Ground Army:
Currently it's fairly rusty and generally not deployed in large amounts. This will change over the course of the RP.

Armor:
3000 Centaur light tanks
1200 Amphibious Light Tanks (TJAT-L1, L2, L3, 400 ea.)
400 TJMBT-2B Goliath
500 Great Toad medium tanks
800 other light and medium tanks, assorted
200 Ontos
300 tracked amphibious infantry transports
300 infantry transports
200 tracked artillery pieces

Infantry:
It is within the estimated capacity of Tahar Joblis to mobilize approximately 10 million armed foot soldiers in a short order of time. Current figures are substantially lower.

Air Force:
70 TJF-1 Fireball (Su-37 clone)
110 TJF-2A Lightning Bolt (FSW light air superiority fighter.)
1800 TJF-3 Mongoose (very cheap light fighter.)
200 TJF-4 Javelin (heavy fast air superiority fighter.)
600 TJF-5 Albatross (mid-light attack plane.)
(Some unidentified number) of TJF-6 Gnat. (Rather bizzarre tiny fighter that would have dominated the skies in WWII.)
400 TJF-7 Firefly (STOL)
200 TJF-7A Firefly (variant of above)
50 TJF-8 Ghost (stealth STOL program, not particularly successful)
100 TJF-10 Chimera (multipurpose heavy fighter, versatile)
200 TJB-1 Mandrake (light bomber)
120 TJB-2 Magus (medium strike bomber)
40 TJB-3 Cyclops (long range heavy bomber)
300 TJAH-1 Hummingbird
500 TJAH-2 Bumblebee
50 Stealth Helicopter (7 bladed budget devouring mostrosities)
~120 TJS-1 and 1A Zephyr
(Numerous) assorted craft not intended to face direct combat.


Project War Zeppelin Inventory Estimates:
50 - TJAD-1 500' long, crew 3 (armored attack dirigible)
20 - TJAD-2 900' long, crew 7 (heavy armored attack dirigible)
80 - TJSD-1 200' long, crew 1 (scout dirgible)
30 - TJTD-1 600' long transport dirigibles, carry ~20 tons cargo
12 - TJTD-2 1100' long transport dirigibles, carry ~120 tons cargo
8 - TJACD-1 2000' long, carries typically 20-40 aircraft (usually the lightweight TJF-3 Mongooses)
5 - TJACD-2 Designed to carry slightly over twice the aircraft load of the TJACD-1 and two Hex Box missile systems, as well as nearly twice the logistical supply for its aircraft (supply whch was rather limited with the TJACD-1). 2800' long, the TJACD-2 also mounts nearly half again the thickness of composite armoring as the TJACD-1. (typical: 12 TJB-2, 20 TJF-3, 6 TJF-5, 2 TJS-1)
25 - TJLD-1 1200' long antimissile COIL dirigible (mounts 2 COILs, actually... one on each end). Crew 7.

OOC: Are these currently the only threads?

World War IX (purely OOC and preparatory) (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=87422)
Armacor WWIX actions (OOC) (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=91116)
CHS Citibanking Corp actions in WWIX (OOC) (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=91140&highlight=wwix)
Tahar Joblissan Deployments (WWIX) (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=91225)

Wow I didn't know those existed lol... only two of them atleast... thank you!

My drive to Portugal (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=91230)

I'll add these soon to the front page...

I made a separate index thread (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=91252) which I'll update. Won't hurt to have everything linkyed around a couple times.

here's my mobilization thread:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2059836#2059836

Oh, one quick question: Do we RP taking over the rest of our countries, since we start out with only a 150 mile radius from our starting city?

My nation is space based and in the future, but my nation was originally b ased in Scotland. It would have been conducting a civil war at the time this war was taking place, so I'd like to declare mt nation neutral at that point in time. Thanks. (just so it doesn't muck up my nations histroy, heh.)

Has anyone made a map yet?

the basic assumption is there are only our 10-15 nations in the world... so it wont affect you (even if (likely) scotland is invaded)

there's a few maps around. i'm using one armacor gave me, mostly of north africa and the middle east

its most of the world equator up and china to greenland so for this war is jsut missing South Africa (region not just nation)

could you give me a copy of the map?

sure details are on pg 10 IM me

I've hosted it.
http://www.angelfire.com/ns2/landofwar/images/mostworldmap.jpg

Count me as poland!

Well here are the troops were moving in:

1,000,000 marines
20000 navy seals
10000 snipers

Navy:
2 hover carriers
14 defiant class carriers
20 Iowa class
20 arsenal ships
30 citadel exabelia missle ships
20 ros class frigates

Ground vehicles:
500 mibile rokos
100 tdr-3000A1 tanks
100 m-270 mlrs rocket artillery
100 self-propelled crusader2
100 LOSAT artillery systems
100 T-90M MBT
100 lepard 2s
1000 ss-25 sickel TEL
1000 M-48 Chaparral Mobile SAM Launcher

Air force:
1000 stealth Za-41 "FireFly" ASF fighters
1000 largentian b6 stealth bombers
100 x-29
100 TW-SR-71 Black Ghost class bomber
100 Tu-160 Blackjack
100 b-4b
100 Su-34KR
100 Mig-45k
100 GT-9 sky glider
100 S-3B Viking
100 Typhoon EF-2000 Eurofighter
100 RQ-4 global hawk
100 LAF-FSU1
100 LAF-SP1
50 Za-26 predator
100 Ka-53 helicopter
50 b-52 bombers
50 b-2 stealth bombers
20 c-141b
200 paratroopers
100 f/a-22 raptors
100 xa-laf2
50 appache2

Ofcourse we are also setting up silos for big missles

I want... Italy, from Genoa, to Milan, to Naples o.O More specifically, the wasternn half of Italy :D

i think it might be a little late, the war has started with the current participants... it gets a little confusing if new ppl join in...

I'd like to join. May I be Guernsey?

refer my previous post

I just saw the thread :(

poor ADK... Hes a good Rper tho! let him be like Italy...

it would have to be up to macabees... (i personally have no prob, especially with a vouchsafe :-))

I'd second allowing ADK, if that means anything to anyone....

I'd second allowing ADK, if that means anything to anyone....

People like me! Cool.

Of Course! lol Mac will be fine with it. I'll talk to him on AIM.

Of Course! lol Mac will be fine with it. I'll talk to him on AIM.


K, thanks...

Note to self, I have followers :D.

How can this be a world war...much less world war 9?

How can this be a world war...much less world war 9?


Its basically wargames set in RL Europe/Asia/Africa with our own militaries. We've been preparing for this for a few weeks now. Don't know why its called WWIX, don't really care, but that's what its called.

umm..
I am not listed on the first page
I asked for South Africa on page ten (if using 20 posts per page)

deploymebnt will be up in 15 mins

The Fearful, ADK, and the A.A. are all in... Im not going to add you to the list (actually I might when I have time) but consider yourself in.

Also, since I allowed these people in, im also allowing Nazi Germany II, who sent me a TM I didn't read.

Notice, these will be the last people to get in, unless Im a become a pushover which I probably will. :lol:

Is there another thread somewere i think i got lost!!!!

Is there another thread somewere i think i got lost!!!!

Go to page 11 of this thread, and you will see a link to a thread that is an index of all the other threads that have to do with the war.

When will someone make a good correct map?

When will someone make a good correct map?

The map on XV's server is pretty correct, I believe, and his has pretty constant updates.

How many countries are their? I counted 12 on the VX map.

How many countries are their? I counted 12 on the VX map.
Yea, thats a flaw... they forgot to draw people of Russia although I don't blame them. They took the time to make it. Also, arent you in Stockholm, therefore Sweden, not Norway, as drawn in the map?

I appriciate them making the map but they kind of messed up a little. Yeah my base is Stokholm, Sweden but now I have all of Scandanavia and Finland.

Oh ok heres Mostly what ill be using:

Sea
Combined Naval Fleet
Submarines
[25] Seawolf Class Attack Submarines w/ 2 Manta unmanned subs each
[2] XB-ASSN-V Attack Submarines
[2] Ohio class Ballistic Missle Submarines w/20 SLBM each
[2] Utah Class Subs (Converted Ohio class Submarines w Cruise missles/anti ship missles and specops support)
[20] SeaSquid Class Submarines
->[6] AH-1A1 Super Cobra
->[11] AH-220 Sea Lion
->[3] SH-65A Dolphin( 1 heli per sub)
[17] Virgina Class Attack Submarines
[35] Seawolf class Attack Submarines
[60] Devil Ray Class Concrete Submarines
Amphibious Operations
[1] EM-150 Piotr Hotamel Class Amphibous Carrier
->[2] FU-29K Scorpion
->[6] A-V8B Harriers
->[9] F-35B S/VTOL
->[6] AH-1Z SeaCobras
->[2] RAH-66 Comanches
->[2] MH-66 Tritons
->[2] CV-22 Ospreys
->[2] SH-60 Seahawks
->[1] SH-46 Sea Knight
->[2] SH-65A Dolphin
->[130] Airborne Assault Troops From Helos 260 in 2 sorties [400] total
->[1] Stryker 125mm
->[3] Stryker APC w/ 27 Infantry
->[8] M-2 Bradley w/ 48 Infantry
[6] Modified Wasp Class Amphibious Carriers
->[108] AV-8B Harriers 18 on each
->[18] F-35B S/VTOL 3 on each
->[12] FU-29K Scorpion 2 on each
->[12] CV-22 Osprey 2 on each
->[36] AH-1Z SeaCobras 6 on each
->[12] RAH-66 Comanches 2 on each
->[12] MH-1R Huey 2 on each
->[30] SH-60 Seahawk 5 on each
->[12] SH-65A Dolphin 2 on each
->[12] SH-46 Sea Knight 2 on each
->[40] M-2 Bradleys w/ 240 Infantry 10 on each
->[12] Stryker ADATS SAM 2 on each
->[12] Stryker 125mm 2 on each
->[12] Stryker Mortar Carrier 2 on each
->[1] Stryker Command Vehicle only 1
->[1] Stryker Recon Vehicle only 1
->[6] Stryker Engineer Squad Vehicle 1 on each
->[7] Stryker Medical Evacuation Vehicle 1 on each
->[12] Stryker Anti-Tank Guided Missle System 2 on each
->[72] Stryker APC w/ 648 Infantry 12 on each
->[1,242] Airborne Assault Troops From all helos except dolphins 2,484 in 2 sorties [3,800] total
[12] Naiad Class Air Cushioned Landing Craft (assigned to Amphib Carriers, DLS and HST)
[10] LCACs
[6] Dock Landing Ships
[4] XB-HSV High Speed Transports
->[40] M-1A2 Abrams 10 on each
->[16] M109 155mm Paladin 4 on each
->[4] M-48 CHAPPRAL Mobile SAMs 1 on each
Battleships
[1]Norad Class Super Battleship
->[9] F-35B JSF
->[3] FU-29K Scorpion
->[4] AV-8B Harrier
->[4] UH-1A1 Super Huey
->[6] AH-1A1 Super Cobra
->[1] V-22 Osprey
->[2] SH-65A Dolphin
->[1] Spartan Class Blimp
[4] Iowa Class Battleships w/ ADV missle sys
-> [10] SH-60 Seahawk 2 on each
-> [10] SH-65A Dolphin ASW/S+R 2 on each
[1] Iowa Class Battleship w/ ADV missle sys
-> [1] CV-22 Osprey
-> [1] SH-46 Sea Knight
-> [1] SH-60 Seahawk
[2] Iowa Class Battleships mothballed (will come out if things go bad only)
Carriers
[4] Modifed Nimitz Class Aircraft Carriers /w 116 aircraft each
->[80] F/A-18E Super Hornets 20 on each
->[20] F-33B Phoenix 5 on each
->[40] F-23 Wildcat 10 on each
->[80] F-27 Haste 20 on each
->[40] FU-29K Scorpion 10 on each
->[120] F-35C 30 on each
->[12] SH-65A Dolphin 3 on each
->[48] SH-60 Seahawk 6 on each
->[12] KA-6 Tanker 3 on each
->[8] EA-6B Prowler 2 on each
->[12] A-4X Skyhawk II 3 on each
->[4] E2-C Hawkeye 1 on each
->[4] MH-66 Trition 1 on each
->[4] SH-46 Sea Knight 1 on each
->[4] CV-22 Osprey 1 on each
->[2] Spartan Class Blimp 1 on each

[2] Nimitz Class Aircraft Carriers 85 a/c each
->[70] F-14E Ultra Tomcats 34 each
->[10] F-33B Phoenix 5 on each
->[6] EF-14 FireCats 3 each
->[24] F/A-18E Super Hornet 12 on each
->[16] A-4X Skyhawk II 8 on each
->[20] F-35C JSF 10 on each
->[6] FU-29K Scorpion 3 on each
->[4] K/C/E-2Cs 2 on each
->[2] SH-65A Dolphin 1 on each
->[2] MH-66 Trition 1 on each
->[4] SH-60 2 on each
->[2] CV-22 Osprey 1 on each

[2] Nimitz Class Aircraft Carriers 85 a/c each
->[70] F-33B Phoenix 34 each
->[10] F-23 Wildcat 5 on each
->[6] EF-23 JackCats 3 each
->[24] F/A-18E Super Hornet 12 on each
->[16] A-4X Skyhawk II 8 on each
->[20] F-35C JSF 10 on each
->[6] FU-29K Scorpion 3 on each
->[4] K/C/E-2Cs 2 on each
->[2] SH-65A Dolphin 1 on each
->[2] AH-220 Sea Lion 1 on each
->[4] SH-60 2 on each
->[2] CV-22 Osprey 1 on each

[2] XB-HSC High Speed Carrier 75 Aircraft each
->[20] FB-23X Black Widow 10 on each
->[22] F-23 Wildcat 10 on each
->[16] F/A-18E Super Hornet 8 on each
->[18] X F-35C JSF 9 on each
->[40] A-4X Skyhawk 20 on each
->[14] FU-29K Scorpion 7 on each
->[4] SH-60 SeaHawk 2 on each
->[2] SH-65A Dolphin 2 on each
->[4] KA-6 Tanker 2 on each
->[4] EA-6B Prowler 2 on each
->[2] E2-C Hawkeye 1 on each
->[2] MH-66 Trition 1 on each
->[2] CV-22 Osprey 1 on each

Cruisers
[4] Long Beach Class Nuclear Cruisers
->[4] SH-60 Seahawk 1 each
->[4] SH-65A Dolphin 1 each
[10] XB-MPC Multi-Platform Cruisers
->[30] SH-60 Seahawk 3 on each
->[5] Spartan Class Blimp 1 per
[6] Ticonderoga class Cruisers
->[10] SH-60 Seahawk 2 on each +2 AH-1Z
->[6] SH-65A Dolphin 1 on each
[2] R-500 Deathrain Cruise Missle Ships
->[2] Spartan Class Blimps 1 on each
[6] XB-AAMB Anti-Air Missile Ships
->[2] Spartan Class Blimps
Destroyers
[10] Sprunace class destroyers
->[20] SH-60 2 on each
[10] Boxcar Class Guided Missile Destroyers
->[10] SH-60 Seahawk 1 on each
->[10] SH-65A Dolphin 1 on each
[16] XB-JMB Class "Jet Missile" Destroyers
>[16] SH-60 Seahawk 1 on each
[20] Arleigh Burke Class Destroyers
->[40] SH-65A Dolphin 2 on each
[12] Perry Class Stealth Destroyers
->[12] SH-65A Dolphins
Frigates
[16] X Oliver Hazard Perry Class Frigates
->[16] SH-65A Dolphin 1 on each
Patrol/Light
[6] Dormer Class Cutters
[2] Cyclone Class Patrol Boats
[6] PB-88 Phantom Fast Attack Boats
[12] XB-SSB Special Speed Boats
[4] MarkVIII Speed Boats
[10] Mekong Class River Gunboats
Support
[12] TYPE-97 Medical Frigates
[40] Pitcher Class Tenders
[35] Texan Class Oilers
[25] Vesuvius Class Amuniton Ships
[30] Assorted Repair Vessels
[20] Underway Replenishment Ships
[6] Faraday Class Minesweepers
Air
Fighter/Attack
[360] F/A-38 Mustang II
[100] F-35A JSF
[578] F-27 Haste
[30] F/A-18 Hornet
[16] F/A-18E Super Hornet
[40] F-15 Eagle
[50] F-16 Fighting Falcon
[90] F/A-22 Raptor
[12] F-23 Wildcat
[190] F/A-33B Phoenix
[250] FU-29K Scorpion
[500] F-31X Cyclone
[100] F/A-117X Nighthawk
Attack
[40] F-117A Nighthawk
[22] AV-8B Harrier
[580] A-4X Skyhawk II
[70] AC-130U Spectre
[21] AC-130H Spooky
[9] MC-130 Combat Talon
[650] A-10 Thunderbolts
[2] A-14
[210] A-36B Mustang
Fighter-Bomber
[100] F/B-4 Phantom III
[30] F-111F Aardvark
[12] FB-44 Raptor
[56] FB-23X Black Widow
Bomber
[204] B-2 Spirit
[60] B-1B Lancer
[502] B-52R Stratofortress
[108] MB-52I Megafortress
Helicopters
[280] AH-1A1 Super Cobra
[10] AH-6/MH-6 Little Bird
[15] OH-6 Defender
[280] AH-64 Apache
[420] AH-64F Apache
[360] AH-64D Longbow
[40] RAH-66 Commanche
[10] AH-66B Commanche
[60] UH-60 Blackhawk
[26] MH-66 Triton
[20] MH-1A1 SuperHuey
[10] SH-65A Dolphin
[50] UH-1A1 SuperHuey
[20] CH-54B Skycranes
Cargo/utility
[100]C-1707 BWB Cargo Transport 1k psg each
[300] C-5 Galaxys 6 strkyer +inf or 2 m-1 +27 inf or 200 paratroops
[60] C-13 JackRabbit 100 inf, 2 Stryker or 1 m-1 +20inf
[130] C-17 Globemaster
[100] C-130H Hercules
[100] C-130J Hercules
[28] C-27J Spartans
[88] KC-10 Extenders
[12] KC-135 Stratotankers
[14] CV-22 Ospreys
[4] KC-1707 Refuelers
[2] RT-1907 UCAV control center/carrier BWB QDCA w/
->[12] FU-29K Scorpion
->[6] RQ-1 Predator
->[2] RQ-2 GlobalHawk
->[5] UCAV-45
Rigid
[6] Trojan Class Airborne Aircraft Carrier
->[48] A-4X Skyhawk 8 on each
->[12] F/A-18E Super Hornet 2 on each
->[30] F-27 Haste 5 on each
->[12] F-31X Cyclone 2 on each
[8] Hyperion Class Battle Airship
Land
Infantry
[20,000] Special Operations Forces (various commands/forces)
[226,000] Airborne Infantry
[800,000] Leg Infantry
[250,000] Mech Infantry (not including other inf stated throughout post)
[122,050] Conscripted Infantry
APCs/IFVs/CFVs
[700] M-2 Bradleys carrying 4,200 Infantry 150 w/ Hellfire rest w/ TOW
[400] M-3 Bradleys w/ 800 Infantry 190 w/ Hellfire systems rest w/ TOW
[170] M-6 Linebacker w/ 800 Infantry
[500] M-113A4 APC w/ M-99 mount + 4,500 Infantry
[80] M113 APC w/ 450 infantry (CS)
[32] M113A3 Wildcat APC w/ 25mm MG and 288 Infantry (CS)
Main Battle Tanks
[16] M-60A3 Patton tanks (CS)
[30] T-72 main battle tanks (CS)
[200] M-1A2 Abrams MBTs
[2,900] M-1A2 Abrams w/ hellfire systems
[1,500] T-1 Scorpion Tanks
ADA
[220] M-48 CHAPPRAL Mobile PR SAM Launchers
[400] M-113 (M-730) Chappral IR Mobile SAM
[900] M163 Vulcan 20mm AA gun(on m113s)
FA
[240] M270 MLRS Rocket Artilery
[40] 105mm Towed Guns (towed by 40 MO Technicals w/ .50 cal MG)
[160] M189 155mm Howitzers
[320] M109 155mm Paladin Mobile Artillery
[160] M-200 200mm Mobile Artillery
[4] v-9 155mm Moblie Artillery Cannons
Misc. Armored Vehicles
[400] MO Technicals
[465] AVENGER hummers
[100] HELLFIRE hummers
[345] hummers w/ 2 barrel .50 cal MG + TOW
[20] XB-FAB Fast Assualt Buggys
[100] M-113 Armored Medical Evacuation Vehicle AMEV
[52] M-548 Cargo Carrier
[100] M-901 Improved TOW Vehicle
[60] M-981 Fire Support Team Vehicle (FISTV)
[30] M-1059 Lynx Smoke Generator Carrier
[60] M-1064 Self-propelled Mortar Carrier (120mm mortars)
[20] M-1064 Self-propelled Mortar Carrier (81mm mortars)
[20] M-1068 Std Integrated Command Post Sys. (SICPS) Carriers
[30] M-1108 Universal Carriers
[200] T-01 VelociRaptor Remotely Operated Tank
[170] T-02 Sabre Tooth Remotely Operated Tank

Conscripted Infantry is armed with Sig 552 Commandos, M-16A4 w/M203 and M249s

Also all of my Leg infantry riflemen are armed with AR-22 11mm rifles w/ .8 gauge shotgun built in.

Mech and Airborne inf use M-4s,M203s, M249 etc


I am writing a deployment thread now and ill check on this if I forgot anything :)

Map updated, new url: http://www.angelfire.com/ns2/landofwar/images/wholetheater.jpg

I believe there are several flaws, probably becuase you haven't seen my posts, but even my Base of Operations (Barcelona) is shown under someone else's control. And you show Armacor as controlling North Africa from Tripoli-Algiers and all of Tunisia, even though I control Algiers and am moving on Tunis (He is attacking only Tripoli)

For future reference (I think I posted it on the map thread), I control from Barcelona, Northeast to Toulouse, then to Marseilles, or most of the Northern Spanish-French Mediterranean Coast (With the notable exception of Toulon). I also control, the Balearic Islands, Algiers, Oran (Mers-el-Kebir to be exact, someone else controls the actual city of Oran), Tunis, and Malta.

Alright, you need to tell Armacor because he actually draws the map. I only host it.

i dont control tunis, Blue does... (TJ i think) and i think he got there first...

i am updating it (slowly as i have to read all this as well :-) ), i am currently updating start positions still as well.... finding new colours is becoming a problem... :-)

i dont control tunis, Blue does... (TJ i think) and i think he got there first...

i am updating it (slowly as i have to read all this as well :-) ), i am currently updating start positions still as well.... finding new colours is becoming a problem... :-)

Oh I thought you were blue (Since blue seemed to be around Tripoli, which I thought you controlled).

In that case I'll recall my Corps that is crossing into Tunisia, but you should know I control Eastern Algeria (Up to Oran)

im green... attacked and took tripoli last night...
you will be on the next iteration of the map