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what a useful post... :?

OOC: Lasers are photonic, and don't have the subatomic particles that would transmit the force of a disruptor.

Yes they do. Gluon transmitters can be transmitted on photon carriers. By definition, if a thing contains a photon, it contains subatomic particles - particles without mass, but with energy - and it's the energy that transmits them. And disruptor? Please, I'm not Star Trek. I'm Traveller - it's far harder scifi than Star Trek. Or Star Wars, I just liked the idea of ewoks being bitter from being used as marketing ploys. It's disintegrator.

Shields are made of (comparitive to solid matter) a few tiny things. Gluon disruptors would chew through them as if they weren't there. If the density of a shield was enough to absorb significant gluon influx, then by definition it's not a shield but armour.

And I Ignore your broadcast from my ship, the laughing part was unknown to you, and the transmission would have been text-only because the Apperition's sheilds were up(preventing the bandwidth needed for a A/V transmission). The real transmission is as follows. (Not saying it was a bad transmission/reaction, but it is not what the AI sending it would have said)

Be more specific.

IC:/Transmission to Big Log/
>Before we engage in battle we are to make one last chance for peace.
>Are there any resources(land, forest, technology) that could make you
>reconsider your postition? We do not wish to fight you, but mearly
>defend Resi from the warmongering invaders that attack it.
>If battle is indeed inevitable, then may we both fight with honor and
>respect.
> -Alpha, Primary AI of the Apperition.
\end transmission\

OOC: The Red Hawk fighters are controlled by AIs, and have a fairly strong set of sheilds for their size. They have around 12 missiles, 4 laser cannons, and 1 Ion cannon.

I'll dredge up the stuff for the other ships, but be warned that the information is in picture form. Sorry 56kers.

How in the name of all that is techwanky do you fit a shield generation device on a fighter, let alone an AI core? Either we a) pull apart each other's tech (I'll probably win, since you claim to have shields and AIs), or b) we go on and accept each other's tech. Plus be more specific when you make transmissions. I'm not psychically able to know what you sent, especially if it differs from what you actually said.

ICly:

"This is the 'Big Log'. Your defence of the abomination of capitalism that is the Resi Corporation - an organisation which uses marketing ploys - is an offence in the eyes of Endor Prime. Prepare to die."

<at which point, the attacks above take place>

Ok, lets start by year RPing in. DNS is currently circa 3500, and the AI cores are running off fairly small soild state storage and a diamond processor bank that is exposed to vacume to deal with heat issues. The diamond processor tech is RL tech, and is fairly exclusive DNS tech. It's extreamly hard to find the sweet spot for the growth of a single cristal able to be + and - charged.

Audio/Visual isn't possible when the sheilds are up unless the ships in question have the same equipment on the same set of standards. Therefor the transmission was text only. And my AI's have politeness routines enabled.

The power sources are a fusion system, which produces more power per capita than the fission reaction systems in use today. Because life support is not nessasary, it allows for the generators and mirco fission systems to be implemented. It's important to note that there is about 3 days of fuel aboard the ships, more if they're in a planetary system/ dust field that their ramscoops can gather more fuel in. FTL is attained by a fairly-low energy cost slipstream procedure.

The armor aboard the crafts is a reflective diamond alloy, around 3 feet thick. These are the purely spacecraft, and not their hybrid or atmosphereic cousins. 3 carriers with 250 each means a total of 750. I'm about to post the stats in pic form, but the info is slightly outdated. AI's are now more prevalent in the military then they were when the ships were built.

OOC: I'm interesting in joining...however could someone either post or tg me with the sides. As in who all vs. who all...

OOC: I'm interesting in joining...however could someone either post or tg me with the sides. As in who all vs. who all...

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what a useful post... :?
OOC: Have you seen my other posts, you twit? READ THE THREAD!!! You can't get in on this; we (the active members of this thread) are still waiting to hear from Resi and have requested that no one, save the initiators of this conflict get in on this. There's no war unless he posts. I'm in on this and I made a mistake. Christ..can a person make a mistake?!!!! :roll:

Can someone telegram me what ships and who they belong to are in orbit over the planet?

**********Incoming Broadcast***********
"I see the enemies of Resi Corporation have begun their attack....I have a number of questions for you all.
Have you decided what are your goals are?
Have you decided who gets what? For the slower ones amongst you that means what you hope to achieve materially from this attack? As we all know waging war is so damn expensive. We would hate to see an allie of the attacking force destroy what another had been promised.
How do you propose to treat the civilians of Resi Corporation? Are you going to "liberate" them...or exterminated them? Because any orbital or surface bombardment (ooc:- Artillery, bombs etc) of Resi Corporation is likely to result in civilian casualties. As I recall this war is against Resi Corporation for it's crimes against civilians...how does killing his civilians make you any better?
Which neutral nations have you agreed to have as observers?
Will these neutral nations be able to arrest your personnel for any war crimes they commit? like the mass murder of civilians that have surrendered, or the rape of females by your troops?
In your eagerness to punish Resi Corporation have you determined what is reasonable force...and have you all agreed to abide by this?
With so many of you attacking Resi Corporation how are you going to avoid the so-called friendly fire? (ooc:- Remember...the USA killed more of their troops in FF incidents than the Iraqies did in the 2nd Gulf War.)
Will you allow unbias reporting of this "war" by neutral nations reporters (ooc:- Like Wombat News..I really would like to have his view on this :P )

Please can Iesus Christi or his allies please make a public announcement to the world their answers to these questions? Or is this war just an excuse to grab what you can of Resi Corporations resources and a warning to the world that no one is safe form your nations warmongering in the name of greed.

http://www.users.on.net/killerkoala/skambass.JPG
Ambassador Jade Purrlinda
The Free Land of Slagkattungerhttp://www.nationstates.net/images/un_member.gif
Politics is war without bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed.
My Nations GDP (http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=Slagkattunger)

This is for Gore:

OOC:Will someone answer my attacks?

This would be a valid point, if Resi hadn't spent an entire night ignoring every attack that was made, and instead played socially with one of his allies, then ran off for the night. I'm really not worried about you "ignore cannoning" me, as I doubt we roleplay the same tech level anyway.

Respect in roleplay goes two ways, Resi's shown a very low level of respect for those involved in this conflict, by ignoring all these attacks. I wouldn't have been asked to get involved if anyone he's fighting felt they were given any consideration whatsoever. The simple fact is I'm here to make sure more people than JUST Resi have fun.

I'm sorry you feel like you need to ignore me, but I'll survive without you.

He has a little over an hour left. If he wishes to delay further, he needs only to post and give everyone SOME idea of when he'll bother to show up, and I'll postpone the deadline again. Other than that, I don't see any reason why not to proceed, he's had three days now.

This is a reminder to Resi, as his last action according to his nation's page was two hours ago:

If you do not acknowledge your fellow roleplayers and report the losses from the several attacks against you, I have been asked by several of those involved against you to help ensure the integrity of the conflict you seem to be ignoring at the moment, and roleplay out the attacks for you.

Though I intend to be fair, I imagine you do not want me to do this. If that is true, you need to post and continue your involvement by the end of tonight.((OOC: you do this and I'll officaly fire my ignore cannon at you...
<begin rant>I check each of my nations once a day to quickly deal with the issues then I log off... this -doesn't- mean I have enough time to check the threads I'm active in and respond to everything. I'm sure this is what Resi is doing.
Resi is going through some personal things right now.... leave him the hell alone untill he can respond. This goes for EVERYONE
I'm sick of you guys treating this game as if it were the end of the fookin' world. Its a GAME! get over it! Can't deal with other people having a life outside the game? Then don't play with them. I'm sooooo tired of this.
Honestly I think this thread should be locked untill Resi comes back and can respond to things. Hell, I sent him a TG a while back that he still hasn't gotten a chance to respond to... I'm hoping it even got sent because its extreamly important for the RP, and I'm sure most of you have filled his TG box with crap like "where the hell are you" and "when are you gonna respond" etc etc etc.
All you guys (people against Resi) started this war... not him. Don't bitch about it when he doesn't have the time to deal with this because of OOC reasons. Now if he had started this war, then yeah, you'd have the right to be a little irked (note I said "a little"). But he didn't so get over it, and get over yourselves! This is not a big deal. Sit down, and shut up </end rant>
*sigh* I'm tired of people complaining like this, and I'm tried of people making me yell.... I don't yell, I don't like to yell. I consider myself to be an extreamly civil person. I don't resort to childish namecalling (unless I call someone childish) and I hate being rude... most of the ooc I see on here is rude one way or another with the exceptions of a few select people. Why don't you guys try and play nice. Remember: everything you say OOC effects people ICly even if they don't wanna admit it... I know it effects me. I will fire the ignore cannon at people who are rude OOCly to me or my friends. ICly is a whole other story, you can be a compleat dickwad ICly and I'll love it as long as you stay civil OOCly. THAT is my #2 rule for RP ettiquite. Rule #1? RL ALWAYS COMES FIRST. Don't like it? Go play somewhere else.... Hopefully this is the last post I'll have to make like this.))

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=79578

Instructions to CENNA forces re my bases.

**********Incoming Broadcast***********
"I see the enemies of Resi Corporation have begun their attack....I have a number of questions for you all.
Have you decided what are your goals are?
Have you decided who gets what? For the slower ones amongst you that means what you hope to achieve materially from this attack? As we all know waging war is so damn expensive. We would hate to see an allie of the attacking force destroy what another had been promised.
How do you propose to treat the civilians of Resi Corporation? Are you going to "liberate" them...or exterminated them? Because any orbital or surface bombardment (ooc:- Artillery, bombs etc) of Resi Corporation is likely to result in civilian casualties. As I recall this war is against Resi Corporation for it's crimes against civilians...how does killing his civilians make you any better?
Which neutral nations have you agreed to have as observers?
Will these neutral nations be able to arrest your personnel for any war crimes they commit? like the mass murder of civilians that have surrendered, or the rape of females by your troops?
In your eagerness to punish Resi Corporation have you determined what is reasonable force...and have you all agreed to abide by this?
With so many of you attacking Resi Corporation how are you going to avoid the so-called friendly fire? (ooc:- Remember...the USA killed more of their troops in FF incidents than the Iraqies did in the 2nd Gulf War.)
Will you allow unbias reporting of this "war" by neutral nations reporters (ooc:- Like Wombat News..I really would like to have his view on this :P )

Please can Iesus Christi or his allies please make a public announcement to the world their answers to these questions? Or is this war just an excuse to grab what you can of Resi Corporations resources and a warning to the world that no one is safe form your nations warmongering in the name of greed.

http://www.users.on.net/killerkoala/skambass.JPG
Ambassador Jade Purrlinda
The Free Land of Slagkattungerhttp://www.nationstates.net/images/un_member.gif
Politics is war without bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed.
My Nations GDP (http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=Slagkattunger)
Does this help any?
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=77802&highlight=

OOC: Say Iesus. Didn't you want to shoot down my planes as per Vthnaar? That is, I have a story that is waiting on your actions here.

To Eris: actually, Vthnaar is being quite fair here. He's not involved in the war but voluntarily acting as the GM. Nothing wrong with that. I don't get the impression that people are saying NS is more important than RL, but perhaps a courteous note would be forthcoming? It can be something like:

"Sorry. Will try to be back in XX days. See you later."

((OOC: Sorry about my absense, I just broke up with my g/f. Usually people need emotional comfort after such an event, and we're both those kind of people. If you mock my reasons and question their validity, I will be pissed OOC. If that happens, I can simply do nothing except spend more time in the real world, away from things that piss me off. :wink:

That said, the invasion doesn't piss me off. Rather, seeing as I've amassed quite an ammount of world-harming tech in case of an everyone-vs-Resi constituancy, this will be a turning point in the history of NS. Believe me when I say that the Dark Storm Virus is just the tip of the iceburg.

Also, we require a summary. Iesus, the reason I didn't RP your attacks is that I wanted you to include a summary of your actions.))

ya breef me what has the resi corperation done to you and every one else i wann know

ya breef me what has the resi corperation done to you and every one else i wann knowNothing. They framed me.

ya breef me what has the resi corperation done to you and every one else i wann knowNothing. They framed me.how do you frame a large corperation/nation/whatever you are

*sighs, and shakes his head* Resi, you've put this off for days now, and instead of responding, you're expecting everyone to give you a summary of their attacks? That's not roleplaying, that's playing war. It's rediculously disrespectful to not even bother to read the posts Iesus wrote, and expect him to give you some tiny post on what you have to deal with.

You also have given no indication of when you'll be getting involved in this conflict, do you plan to, or should we assume you're going to continue to stall?

OOC: You have one less enemy. Arda has pulled out of the war.

And my bases have been opened to all CENNA forces.

And Edward Black is dead.

Oh yes, attack my bases and Der Angst is allowed to pick one random Resi Corporation or allied city and launch chemical warheads at it.

Sadly, I can't participate actively.

God you all are iddots(me too i cant spell)there is noeveidance against the resi corperation you have nothing to base any thing on untill i find otherwise info i will offer any and all assitace to the resi corperation

*sighs, and shakes his head* Resi, you've put this off for days now, and instead of responding, you're expecting everyone to give you a summary of their attacks? That's not roleplaying, that's playing war. It's rediculously disrespectful to not even bother to read the posts Iesus wrote, and expect him to give you some tiny post on what you have to deal with.

You also have given no indication of when you'll be getting involved in this conflict, do you plan to, or should we assume you're going to continue to stall?((OOC: Chastise me for not reading posts, then not read what I posted, will you? Insensitive hypocrite. I'm not stalling.

Well isn't that what this is, playing war? I don't expect any of my units to be treated as more than mere grunts (they're robots, after all), so I don't RP extensivly what I tell them to do. Essentially central command just presses a button, and they comply. it's fine with me if others do the same. After all, this isn't exactly character RP here...

Well, you're an exception. It's a pity we can't fix him up, but then maybe if you'd stand up to Menelmacar the way I stood up to Melkor oh so long ago...)))

OOC: Given half a choice, I would support Resi.

Sadly, since a member of CENNA is my one true lord and master, I have no options.

Anyway, Menelmacar is a close personal friend of mine ((I'm guessing she likes me, she glasses most other people who try to do what I did))

**********Incoming Broadcast***********
"I see the enemies of Resi Corporation have begun their attack....I have a number of questions for you all.
Have you decided what are your goals are?
Have you decided who gets what? For the slower ones amongst you that means what you hope to achieve materially from this attack? As we all know waging war is so damn expensive. We would hate to see an allie of the attacking force destroy what another had been promised.
How do you propose to treat the civilians of Resi Corporation? Are you going to "liberate" them...or exterminated them? Because any orbital or surface bombardment (ooc:- Artillery, bombs etc) of Resi Corporation is likely to result in civilian casualties. As I recall this war is against Resi Corporation for it's crimes against civilians...how does killing his civilians make you any better?
Which neutral nations have you agreed to have as observers?
Will these neutral nations be able to arrest your personnel for any war crimes they commit? like the mass murder of civilians that have surrendered, or the rape of females by your troops?
In your eagerness to punish Resi Corporation have you determined what is reasonable force...and have you all agreed to abide by this?
With so many of you attacking Resi Corporation how are you going to avoid the so-called friendly fire? (ooc:- Remember...the USA killed more of their troops in FF incidents than the Iraqies did in the 2nd Gulf War.)
Will you allow unbias reporting of this "war" by neutral nations reporters (ooc:- Like Wombat News..I really would like to have his view on this :P )

Please can Iesus Christi or his allies please make a public announcement to the world their answers to these questions? Or is this war just an excuse to grab what you can of Resi Corporations resources and a warning to the world that no one is safe form your nations warmongering in the name of greed.

http://www.users.on.net/killerkoala/skambass.JPG
Ambassador Jade Purrlinda
The Free Land of Slagkattungerhttp://www.nationstates.net/images/un_member.gif
Politics is war without bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed.
My Nations GDP (http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=Slagkattunger)
Does this help any?
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=77802&highlight=

ooc:- No I know that..My request was for an official statement from the attackers to the world answering those points. Plus help the RP along by giving the attackers a IC stated goal for their attack ie:- Iesus could say I'm after the main Island manufacturing complex & data storage center then anyone who orbital bombard the island would allow resi to say You destroyed the data storage center leaving Iesus short one objective & unhappy with the player who destroyed it. (In other words it would stop mass orbital attacks & get troops into the city.)

Edited to make sense.

OOC: Given half a choice, I would support Resi.

Sadly, since a member of CENNA is my one true lord and master, I have no options.

Anyway, Menelmacar is a close personal friend of mine ((I'm guessing she likes me, she glasses most other people who try to do what I did))((OOC: You want a revolution behind your eyes? You've got to get up and organize!
In any case, a minor peasant revolt would nix TY out of the situation, while providing you with a chance to gain some freedom from his rule. And the best part is that your government wouldn't be effected by the wrath of TY.))

*sighs, and shakes his head* Resi, you've put this off for days now, and instead of responding, you're expecting everyone to give you a summary of their attacks? That's not roleplaying, that's playing war. It's rediculously disrespectful to not even bother to read the posts Iesus wrote, and expect him to give you some tiny post on what you have to deal with.

You also have given no indication of when you'll be getting involved in this conflict, do you plan to, or should we assume you're going to continue to stall?((OOC: Chastise me for not reading posts, then not read what I posted, will you? Insensitive hypocrite. I'm not stalling.

Well isn't that what this is, playing war? I don't expect any of my units to be treated as more than mere grunts (they're robots, after all), so I don't RP extensivly what I tell them to do. Essentially central command just presses a button, and they comply. it's fine with me if others do the same. After all, this isn't exactly character RP here...

Well, you're an exception. It's a pity we can't fix him up, but then maybe if you'd stand up to Menelmacar the way I stood up to Melkor oh so long ago...)))


So then you're not going to respond to Iesus, unless he writes something that you can spend three minutes reading? That's about as disrespectful as one can get toward someone else's roleplay.

You seem to be taking an adversarial role here against Iesus OOC as well as IC, which makes little sense. If you can't respect him enough to actually read what he went to the great trouble to write for you, why should I ask him to wait even longer for you to acknowledge his work, when you don't even respect it? You're asking for a great deal of consideration, yet I've seen you offer none to the other side of the conflict.

OOC: Edward Black is dead, and Alexander needs the support of Devian.

Also, he doesn't view Jai with all that much happiness.

So then you're not going to respond to Iesus, unless he writes something that you can spend three minutes reading? That's about as disrespectful as one can get toward someone else's roleplay.

You seem to be taking an adversarial role here against Iesus OOC as well as IC, which makes little sense. If you can't respect him enough to actually read what he went to the great trouble to write for you, why should I ask him to wait even longer for you to acknowledge his work, when you don't even respect it? You're asking for a great deal of consideration, yet I've seen you offer none to the other side of the conflict.

OOC:
Come now. You complain about Resi being antagonistic towards Iesus OOCly, but to me this post looks pretty antagonistic, and it's OOC too.

Also, you and others have been complaining solidly since before Resi's absence about him making you wait. If he had to read through the ump-teen pages of plans-of-attack, attacks, second-attacks-before-waiting-for-a-response, reasons-why-that-attack-never-happened, etc. you'd be waiting another day or two, during which time some people would continue to post, and so you'd just end up waiting even loger.

The whole point of having a summary is to save time - time which some have accused Resi of wasting. He has also been accused of trying to avoid the conflict, wheeas reuesting a summary shows he wans to get back into the RP as soon as possible, rather than "avoid" it another couple of days while he reads up.

Anyway, that's my $0.02

So then you're not going to respond to Iesus, unless he writes something that you can spend three minutes reading? That's about as disrespectful as one can get toward someone else's roleplay.

You seem to be taking an adversarial role here against Iesus OOC as well as IC, which makes little sense. If you can't respect him enough to actually read what he went to the great trouble to write for you, why should I ask him to wait even longer for you to acknowledge his work, when you don't even respect it? You're asking for a great deal of consideration, yet I've seen you offer none to the other side of the conflict.((OOC: Okay... then what do you expect me to do? Spend all of the little time I have to RP on NationStates reading 14 pages of role-playing? I mean, if I had the time (and the attention span :P ) I'd do it, but stuff happens. I respect him as an RPer, but that doesn't mean that I have time to go back and read page after page of his material.))

OOC: Edward Black is dead, and Alexander needs the support of Devian.

Also, he doesn't view Jai with all that much happiness.((What better way to gain his support than crushing peasants together?

I don't blame him, but he still loves Sara as a sister))

(ooc: Summary? ok. Not a problem.

The combined forces of 01 are hitting Faarston, which on your map lies to the north-west of Resi City. There are half a million Sentinel combat units, a thousand Harvestor heavy combat units, and a hundred Overlord Fortresses. They do not intend to leave a soul alive in that city, nor a droid intact. If you've got any questions on the capabilities of these units, feel free to TM me.)

OOC: Edward Black is dead, and Alexander needs the support of Devian.

Also, he doesn't view Jai with all that much happiness.((What better way to gain his support than crushing peasants together?

I don't blame him, but he still loves Sara as a sister))

((Hey, at least Roania hasn't revealed Jai's location... though should we be ordered to, I guess I would. And then I would inform Jai, of course. Neutrality is a blessing.

By the way, I think the Sara thing should be moved into its own thread, as Pinnacle Base is bound to be watched by enemies...))

So then you're not going to respond to Iesus, unless he writes something that you can spend three minutes reading? That's about as disrespectful as one can get toward someone else's roleplay.

You seem to be taking an adversarial role here against Iesus OOC as well as IC, which makes little sense. If you can't respect him enough to actually read what he went to the great trouble to write for you, why should I ask him to wait even longer for you to acknowledge his work, when you don't even respect it? You're asking for a great deal of consideration, yet I've seen you offer none to the other side of the conflict.((OOC: Okay... then what do you expect me to do? Spend all of the little time I have to RP on NationStates reading 14 pages of role-playing? I mean, if I had the time (and the attention span :P ) I'd do it, but stuff happens. I respect him as an RPer, but that doesn't mean that I have time to go back and read page after page of his material.))

You started posting in this thread on page six. Had you not completly neglected to respond since then, you'd have no trouble keeping up. Instead, you roleplayed out a character interaction with an ally, then went to bed. Perhaps if you'd bothered to read it two nights ago, you wouldn't be looking at 14 pages to read through. The fact is, you neglected your part in this thread, and Iesus deserves you to at least read what he wrote.

((Remember, for all you know Jai is in Eris' nation. He's actually not there anymore.

And 01, I seem to recall that I said I would unleash the Dark Storm Virus the second your units appeared on the horizon. Let's back it up to that point, shall we?))

((Remember, for all you know Jai is in Eris' nation. He's actually not there anymore.

And 01, I seem to recall that I said I would unleash the Dark Storm Virus the second your units appeared on the horizon. Let's back it up to that point, shall we?))

Ok. Go. What are you going to do, email it to them?

You started posting in this thread on page six. Had you not completly neglected to respond since then, you'd have no trouble keeping up. Instead, you roleplayed out a character interaction with an ally, then went to bed. Perhaps if you'd bothered to read it two nights ago, you wouldn't be looking at 14 pages to read through. The fact is, you neglected your part in this thread, and Iesus deserves you to at least read what he wrote.((Listen to yourself, "completely neglected to respond"...
You make it sound like it's my duty to play this game. I have more important things in my life than games, but somehow I still manage to squeeze a little time in for fun.

I RPed the character interactions because they were presented to me then, like I asked. :? ))

Ok. Go. What are you going to do, email it to them?Well they're taking orders from central command or whatever you have, right? There's got to be some communications between the two of them.

You started posting in this thread on page six. Had you not completly neglected to respond since then, you'd have no trouble keeping up. Instead, you roleplayed out a character interaction with an ally, then went to bed. Perhaps if you'd bothered to read it two nights ago, you wouldn't be looking at 14 pages to read through. The fact is, you neglected your part in this thread, and Iesus deserves you to at least read what he wrote.((Listen to yourself, "completely neglected to respond"...
You make it sound like it's my duty to play this game. I have more important things in my life than games, but somehow I still manage to squeeze a little time in for fun.

I RPed the character interactions because they were presented to me then, like I asked. :? ))

It's certainly not your duty to respond, but I've been asked to make sure everyone has fun. If you don't want to respond, then you don't have to. Just don't be shocked if the conflict continues without you. I have no problem with that.

((OOC: Could someone please give me a summary? I didn't want to spend my time here (it's nearly up, by the way) arguing, but certain people had other things in mind.))

Right... I just read through all those pages again, and I don't find them worth summarising. Basically, a lot of people managed to bypass all sorts of defenses magically.

To hell with this. For my part, I'm ignoring this thread.

I have strictly limited time on NS now, and I'm not going to deal with this.

Start it again, and set up a specific thread for OOC reactions.

It's the Melkor war all over again.

((Remember, for all you know Jai is in Eris' nation. He's actually not there anymore.

And 01, I seem to recall that I said I would unleash the Dark Storm Virus the second your units appeared on the horizon. Let's back it up to that point, shall we?))


OOC: how about we get back to the point of your shores being bombarded, air raids and bombing runs being taken against you. Since all that happened BEFORE 01 appeared. Give us something to work with boyo.

Recap, 12 Iraqstani hypersonic fighters have performed air raids on resi corp targets. Being civillian and corporate structures. I'd like some damage reports from the 60 missiles launched at the closest shore line buildings. As well as seeing some sort of recognition of Iesus, Der Angst and others first attacks which you so arrogantly demanded people post once and let you catch up.

I'll give you an hour before I post your losses to my attacks. I'm a patient person but your bullshitting your way along. Read what we gave you or we post your losses.

Finit.

((Remember, for all you know Jai is in Eris' nation. He's actually not there anymore.

And 01, I seem to recall that I said I would unleash the Dark Storm Virus the second your units appeared on the horizon. Let's back it up to that point, shall we?))

Wait..wasn't he somewhere else? Or is that visit on a different timeline?

It's certainly not your duty to respond, but I've been asked to make sure everyone has fun. If you don't want to respond, then you don't have to. Just don't be shocked if the conflict continues without you. I have no problem with that.I would be surprised if the conflict went on without me. Y'know why? Because I'm not totally ignoring this thread. I'm going on NationStates when I have time to, and I'd seriously appreciate your not chewing me out over it. Just because you have more time for this than I do doesn't make you more of a person.
*bites tounge and stops self from flaming*))

Ok. Go. What are you going to do, email it to them?Well they're taking orders from central command or whatever you have, right? There's got to be some communications between the two of them.

Well, see, don't think we havn't thought about this. All military forces operate on their own sub-network, which is an independant but integratable part of the main network. Remember, these things are sentient. Once given orders, they don't need to have any more links to Command. On top of that, you would have to get through the sentient firewalls and anti-virus agents of the primary network, before facing another round of the same thing trying to get access to the secondary network. And, seeing as every last citizen in 01 is interfaced with the primary network, that thing is guarded and encrypted up the ying yang. So, in short, good freaking luck. :)

Or is this war just an excuse to grab what you can of Resi Corporations resources...?

Yes.

You had to ask?

Sakura Kitsuki
Minister of Cynicism

It's certainly not your duty to respond, but I've been asked to make sure everyone has fun. If you don't want to respond, then you don't have to. Just don't be shocked if the conflict continues without you. I have no problem with that.I would be surprised if the conflict went on without me. Y'know why? Because I'm not totally ignoring this thread. I'm going on NationStates when I have time to, and I'd seriously appreciate your not chewing me out over it. Just because you have more time for this than I do doesn't make you more of a person.
*bites tounge and stops self from flaming*))

I suggest you deal with those who've "summarized" for you before their last nerve snaps.

Right... I just read through all those pages again, and I don't find them worth summarising. Basically, a lot of people managed to bypass all sorts of defenses magically.

To hell with this. For my part, I'm ignoring this thread.

I have strictly limited time on NS now, and I'm not going to deal with this.

Start it again, and set up a specific thread for OOC reactions.

It's the Melkor war all over again.

Actually, this makes sense.

Start it again, and set up a specific thread for OOC reactions.

A very good idea in theory, but how many of those involved would agree -one, to re-starting the thread, and two, to only posting OOC comments in a dedicated OOC thread? Personally, I can't see that part working...

It's the Melkor war all over again.

Here here. And I have a feeling it'll end much the same way...

OOC: how about we get back to the point of your shores being bombarded, air raids and bombing runs being taken against you. Since all that happened BEFORE 01 appeared. Give us something to work with boyo.

Recap, 12 Iraqstani hypersonic fighters have performed air raids on resi corp targets. Being civillian and corporate structures. I'd like some damage reports from the 60 missiles launched at the closest shore line buildings. As well as seeing some sort of recognition of Iesus, Der Angst and others first attacks which you so arrogantly demanded people post once and let you catch up.

I'll give you an hour before I post your losses to my attacks. I'm a patient person but your bullshitting your way along. Read what we gave you or we post your losses.

Finit.((OOC: BULLSHITTING? I tell you, son, you're trying my patience, OOC and IC!))
What city are you attacking? If it's any city but Resi City, we'll say that 60% of the harbor and about 10 civilian buildings collapsed. 5,000 people died in this barrage.

Bare in mind, this is unless the target was Resi City.

Well, see, don't think we havn't thought about this. All military forces operate on their own sub-network, which is an independant but integratable part of the main network. Remember, these things are sentient. Once given orders, they don't need to have any more links to Command. On top of that, you would have to get through the sentient firewalls and anti-virus agents of the primary network, before facing another round of the same thing trying to get access to the secondary network. And, seeing as every last citizen in 01 is interfaced with the primary network, that thing is guarded and encrypted up the ying yang. So, in short, good freaking luck. :)You're forgetting our virus is sentient, as well. Also, it's been in isolation for quite a bit of time, so it's probably made some sentient friends...

OOC: how about we get back to the point of your shores being bombarded, air raids and bombing runs being taken against you. Since all that happened BEFORE 01 appeared. Give us something to work with boyo.

Recap, 12 Iraqstani hypersonic fighters have performed air raids on resi corp targets. Being civillian and corporate structures. I'd like some damage reports from the 60 missiles launched at the closest shore line buildings. As well as seeing some sort of recognition of Iesus, Der Angst and others first attacks which you so arrogantly demanded people post once and let you catch up.

I'll give you an hour before I post your losses to my attacks. I'm a patient person but your bullshitting your way along. Read what we gave you or we post your losses.

Finit.((OOC: BULLSHITTING? I tell you, son, you're trying my patience, OOC and IC!))
What city are you attacking? If it's any city but Resi City, we'll say that 60% of the harbor and about 10 civilian buildings collapsed. 5,000 people died in this barrage.

Bare in mind, this is unless the target was Resi City.

(OOC: yes bullshitting. and it was a shore based city, if I was going to attack resi city I would of stated..... Iraqstani bombers are taking targets of opportunity as they arise. And your losses are good. Thank you.)

I'll give you an hour before I post your losses to my attacks. I'm a patient person but your bullshitting your way along. Read what we gave you or we post your losses.

Now that kind of post's hardly the way to keep things calm and sensible, is it?

Wait..wasn't he somewhere else? Or is that visit on a different timeline?((No, he is somewhere else, but for all Roania knows ICly, he's in Eris Kallisti's country))

Start it again, and set up a specific thread for OOC reactions.

A very good idea in theory, but how many of those involved would agree -one, to re-starting the thread, and two, to only posting OOC comments in a dedicated OOC thread? Personally, I can't see that part working...

Oh yeah... damn my foolish faith in humanity.

It's the Melkor war all over again.

Hear, hear (( 8) I think that's what you meant)). And I have a feeling it'll end much the same way...

Which means that the war never happened and the world goes on.

Quite frankly, if we all had obeyed that war result we would be Morgoth's b*tches and he would rule the known universe.

(OOC: yes bullshitting. and it was a shore based city, if I was going to attack resi city I would of stated..... Iraqstani bombers are taking targets of opportunity as they arise. And your losses are good. Thank you.)((OOC: Go to hell. I've been through a lot, and I don't need your crap. It's the last thing I need right now. I know you tend to think with your testicles rather than your brain, but could you at least attempt to use your nervous system so that it doesn't totally shrivel up? Get over youself.

And with that, I'm off. Good night to you, ladies and gentlemen (Iraqstan excluded).))

You're forgetting our virus is sentient, as well. Also, it's been in isolation for quite a bit of time, so it's probably made some sentient friends...

Thats all nice, but what does it mean? Little. 01 has been virus-free for centuries, and it is unlikely that your Dark Storm virus is anythign new. Keep in mind that this isn't a microsoft system you're attacking. Plainly put, unless you're going to come up with some compelling reason why they should be, none of my forces will be effected by your virus. Its just not possible. Simple as that.

In a side note, I'd like to know why Roania is talking to himself...

OOC:

Can't you monkeys sort this all out via telegram or IRC? Murphy's sake, it took you clowns less than an hour and a half to post nearly 2 pages of drivel.

As it stands, I would suggest an agreed upon summary and then keep going. At the rate this dog's breakfast is going, it will end up being another massive damn ignorefest.

[ooc-rant]

"Hey, our scientists have done something great today!"

"OMG what?"

"They made us immune to "01" bullets"

"Yay!"

[/ooc-rant]

You're forgetting our virus is sentient, as well. Also, it's been in isolation for quite a bit of time, so it's probably made some sentient friends...

Thats all nice, but what does it mean? Little. 01 has been virus-free for centuries, and it is unlikely that your Dark Storm virus is anythign new. Keep in mind that this isn't a microsoft system you're attacking. Plainly put, unless you're going to come up with some compelling reason why they should be, none of my forces will be effected by your virus. Its just not possible. Simple as that.

In a side note, I'd like to know why Roania is talking to himself...

Because I'm trying to get you... must be polite... gentlemen to agree to a simple solution.

OOC: Resi, if you're still on right now. Check your TG's real quick.

Thats all nice, but what does it mean? Little. 01 has been virus-free for centuries, and it is unlikely that your Dark Storm virus is anythign new. Keep in mind that this isn't a microsoft system you're attacking. Plainly put, unless you're going to come up with some compelling reason why they should be, none of my forces will be effected by your virus. Its just not possible. Simple as that.The fact that there are multiple sentient viruses attacking you should be enough to down one or two of your units.

Remember, the Matrix has glitches (that one movie in the Animatrix) and viruses (Agent Smith). It is only realistic that a precursor to the robotic society in the Matris be susceptable to the same weaknesses as its evloved version.

Last post for the night. You can thank Iraqstan for pissing me the hell off. :evil:

You're forgetting our virus is sentient, as well. Also, it's been in isolation for quite a bit of time, so it's probably made some sentient friends...

Dude, this virus is what, a couple of petabytes to be sentient? It'd take months to upload onto modern networks. I think they might notice in that time.

Because I'm trying to get you... must be polite... gentlemen to agree to a simple solution.

Give me some credit Roania, at least I'm being civil, if not argumentative. I'm allowed to be the latter.

And Vortex, its not rocket science to make yourself immune to a computer virus or similar weapons. Ever heard of a gas mask? They, *gasp* protect you from harmfull chemicals. Now, take that gas mask, make it as smart, if not smarter then humans, and you've got a sentient firewall! Hooray!

Also, we are the presursor society to the Matrix, rather then goign that route, we've evolved. There is no Matrix.

Dude, this virus is what, a couple of petabytes to be sentient? It'd take months to upload onto modern networks. I think they might notice in that time.The key word there is modern. In case you haven't noticed, both 01 and myself are future tech.

And Vortex, its not rocket science to make yourself immune to a computer virus or similar weapons. Ever heard of a gas mask? They, *gasp* protect you from harmfull chemicals. Now, take that gas mask, make it as smart, if not smarter then humans, and you've got a sentient firewall! Hooray!A sentient gas mask isn't a firewall, it merely screams while it gets poisoned by chemicals...

Dude, this virus is what, a couple of petabytes to be sentient? It'd take months to upload onto modern networks. I think they might notice in that time.The key word there is modern. In case you haven't noticed, both 01 and myself are future tech.


Being sentient doesn't make you able to pass through firewalls. Firewalls require an internal connection before an external source could send information. Unless you have someone inside of 01, you wouldn't be able to get anything through.

Because I'm trying to get you... must be polite... gentlemen to agree to a simple solution.

Give me some credit Roania, at least I'm being civil, if not argumentative. I'm allowed to be the latter.

And Vortex, its not rocket science to make yourself immune to a computer virus or similar weapons. Ever heard of a gas mask? They, *gasp* protect you from harmfull chemicals. Now, take that gas mask, make it as smart, if not smarter then humans, and you've got a sentient firewall! Hooray!

Um... come to think of it, it is rocket scientist to protect yourself from my chemicals... but I suppose you mean chemweapons manufactured by militaries that don't spend 1/3 of their budget on WMDs.

((Not having a navy frees up a lot of cash))

Dude, this virus is what, a couple of petabytes to be sentient? It'd take months to upload onto modern networks. I think they might notice in that time.The key word there is modern. In case you haven't noticed, both 01 and myself are future tech.

The fact that you're future tech, however, doesn't make everyone else's bandwidth magically increase by several orders of magnitude. You couldn't get it to their computer because their download speed is too slow.

In other words, Dark Storm would be utterly useless against modern nations like the ones in The Reich.

Dude, this virus is what, a couple of petabytes to be sentient? It'd take months to upload onto modern networks. I think they might notice in that time.The key word there is modern. In case you haven't noticed, both 01 and myself are future tech.


Being sentient doesn't make you able to pass through firewalls. Firewalls require an internal connection before an external source could send information. Unless you have someone inside of 01, you wouldn't be able to get anything through.

Correct. Not only that, you said it's been in isolation. So logicly it can't be out making friends in 01. Not that people outside the city can gain access to the network anyway. If you believe otherwise, then you've seen too many movies where the bad guys leave their top secret plans open on their desks, and build air ducts big enough for commandos to fit through. It just dosen't make any sense.

Being sentient doesn't make you able to pass through firewalls. Firewalls require an internal connection before an external source could send information. Unless you have someone inside of 01, you wouldn't be able to get anything through.Seeing as we produce a lot of robots, what makes you think we don't? :wink:

In any case, firewalls can be circumvented. I don't exactly know how (I've never been into the whole hacking thing) but I have several friends that have claimed to have done so.

GMC, I presume you are not a part of the CENNA task force. Still, if you want, I have some nice bases just 500 miles south.

For a price.

The fact that you're future tech, however, doesn't make everyone else's bandwidth magically increase by several orders of magnitude. You couldn't get it to their computer because their download speed is too slow.

In other words, Dark Storm would be utterly useless against modern nations like the ones in The Reich.It would be useful against all those gravships over my nation, though... :wink:

Being sentient doesn't make you able to pass through firewalls. Firewalls require an internal connection before an external source could send information. Unless you have someone inside of 01, you wouldn't be able to get anything through.Seeing as we produce a lot of robots, what makes you think we don't? :wink:

In any case, firewalls can be circumvented. I don't exactly know how (I've never been into the whole hacking thing) but I have several friends that have done so.

If I read that right ( I might not of) your saying since you builkd robots you have an internal connection to 01's mainframes? How does that work?

And firewalls can be circumvented yes, but we are dealing with sentinent firewalls....I think they'd know when someone was trying to circumvent them.

GMC, I presume you are not a part of the CENNA task force. Still, if you want, I have some nice bases just 500 miles south.

For a price.You aren't in the islands anymore, smart one. You forfeited those bases.

G'night!

Being sentient doesn't make you able to pass through firewalls. Firewalls require an internal connection before an external source could send information. Unless you have someone inside of 01, you wouldn't be able to get anything through.Seeing as we produce a lot of robots, what makes you think we don't? :wink:

In any case, firewalls can be circumvented. I don't exactly know how (I've never been into the whole hacking thing) but I have several friends that have claimed to have done so.

Well, considering you never mentioned that you had someone in 01, I would assume you don't.

People who have gained access into well protected firewalls exploit either inherent flaws in software, or by going to the site and tapping in. You don't just release something toward a firewall and watch it pass through.

The fact that you're future tech, however, doesn't make everyone else's bandwidth magically increase by several orders of magnitude. You couldn't get it to their computer because their download speed is too slow.

In other words, Dark Storm would be utterly useless against modern nations like the ones in The Reich.It would be useful against all those gravships over my nation, though... :wink:

Depends if Mel runs an OS in any way compatiable with yours.

GMC, I presume you are not a part of the CENNA task force. Still, if you want, I have some nice bases just 500 miles south.

For a price.You aren't in the islands anymore, smart one. You forfeited those bases.

G'night!

Yes, but my geographical location always was 500 miles south of the Archipegalo.

**********Incoming Broadcast***********
"I see the enemies of Resi Corporation have begun their attack....I have a number of questions for you all.
Have you decided what are your goals are?
Have you decided who gets what? For the slower ones amongst you that means what you hope to achieve materially from this attack? As we all know waging war is so damn expensive. We would hate to see an allie of the attacking force destroy what another had been promised.
How do you propose to treat the civilians of Resi Corporation? Are you going to "liberate" them...or exterminated them? Because any orbital or surface bombardment (ooc:- Artillery, bombs etc) of Resi Corporation is likely to result in civilian casualties. As I recall this war is against Resi Corporation for it's crimes against civilians...how does killing his civilians make you any better?
Which neutral nations have you agreed to have as observers?
Will these neutral nations be able to arrest your personnel for any war crimes they commit? like the mass murder of civilians that have surrendered, or the rape of females by your troops?
In your eagerness to punish Resi Corporation have you determined what is reasonable force...and have you all agreed to abide by this?
With so many of you attacking Resi Corporation how are you going to avoid the so-called friendly fire? (ooc:- Remember...the USA killed more of their troops in FF incidents than the Iraqies did in the 2nd Gulf War.)
Will you allow unbias reporting of this "war" by neutral nations reporters (ooc:- Like Wombat News..I really would like to have his view on this :P )

Please can Iesus Christi or his allies please make a public announcement to the world their answers to these questions? Or is this war just an excuse to grab what you can of Resi Corporations resources and a warning to the world that no one is safe form your nations warmongering in the name of greed.

http://www.users.on.net/killerkoala/skambass.JPG
Ambassador Jade Purrlinda
The Free Land of Slagkattungerhttp://www.nationstates.net/images/un_member.gif
Politics is war without bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed.
My Nations GDP (http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=Slagkattunger)
Does this help any?
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=77802&highlight=

ooc:- No I know that..My request was for an official statement from the attackers to the world answering those points. Plus help the RP along by giving the attackers a IC stated goal for their attack ie:- Iesus could say I'm after the main Island manufacturing complex & data storage center then anyone who orbital bombard the island would allow resi to say You destroyed the data storage center leaving Iesus short one objective & unhappy with the player who destroyed it. (In other words it would stop mass orbital attacks & get troops into the city.)

ooc:- Did anyone bother to read this? Or are you all too busy ignoring Resi's defences & somehow getting your groundforces into his waters without him attacking?

ooc:- Did anyone bother to read this? Or are you all too busy ignoring Resi's defences & somehow getting your groundforces into his waters without him attacking?

IC: I imagine the nations whom were asked don't feel they need to answer such questions.

ooc:- Ah ha figured something out...because this war started without some rules being work out its turning into a flame fest instead of a well RP war.

I suggest Resi & Iesus work out the war rules (maps included) & start again with rule breakers being ignored or their posts deleted.

ooc:- Ah ha figured something out...because this war started without some rules being work out its turning into a flame fest instead of a well RP war.

I suggest Resi & Iesus work out the war rules (maps included) & start again with rule breakers being ignored or their posts deleted.

The war's turning into what it is, because those involved are being put off for days at a time.

[OOC: Eurusean forces present are:

GROUND

2 million light infantry, first wave of the landing force, in landing craft.

NAVAL

12 Floating Fortresses [They're basically giant concrete-hulled artillery platforms, main arm 6 huge siege mortars]
Attendant battlegroups [8 vessels per ship, 2 destroyers, 2 AEGIS cruisers, 4 SSNs.]
1 Carrier [air wing 61 aircraft]
Support and supply ships for above, fuelers, ammunition tenders etc, 62 ships total.
And a metric assload of landing craft.]

ooc:- Ah ha figured something out...because this war started without some rules being work out its turning into a flame fest instead of a well RP war.

I suggest Resi & Iesus work out the war rules (maps included) & start again with rule breakers being ignored or their posts deleted.

The war's turning into what it is, because those involved are being put off for days at a time.

well they post & wait..& wait...& wait..until Resi & allies all respond. People do have lives you know, if you can't wait leave.

Now will those attackin Resi please make a post on this please.


**********Incoming Broadcast***********
"I see the enemies of Resi Corporation have begun their attack....I have a number of questions for you all.
Have you decided what are your goals are?
Have you decided who gets what? For the slower ones amongst you that means what you hope to achieve materially from this attack? As we all know waging war is so damn expensive. We would hate to see an allie of the attacking force destroy what another had been promised.
How do you propose to treat the civilians of Resi Corporation? Are you going to "liberate" them...or exterminated them? Because any orbital or surface bombardment (ooc:- Artillery, bombs etc) of Resi Corporation is likely to result in civilian casualties. As I recall this war is against Resi Corporation for it's crimes against civilians...how does killing his civilians make you any better?
Which neutral nations have you agreed to have as observers?
Will these neutral nations be able to arrest your personnel for any war crimes they commit? like the mass murder of civilians that have surrendered, or the rape of females by your troops?
In your eagerness to punish Resi Corporation have you determined what is reasonable force...and have you all agreed to abide by this?
With so many of you attacking Resi Corporation how are you going to avoid the so-called friendly fire? (ooc:- Remember...the USA killed more of their troops in FF incidents than the Iraqies did in the 2nd Gulf War.)
Will you allow unbias reporting of this "war" by neutral nations reporters (ooc:- Like Wombat News..I really would like to have his view on this :P )

Please can Iesus Christi or his allies please make a public announcement to the world their answers to these questions? Or is this war just an excuse to grab what you can of Resi Corporations resources and a warning to the world that no one is safe form your nations warmongering in the name of greed.

http://www.users.on.net/killerkoala/skambass.JPG
Ambassador Jade Purrlinda
The Free Land of Slagkattungerhttp://www.nationstates.net/images/un_member.gif
Politics is war without bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed.
My Nations GDP (http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=Slagkattunger)
Does this help any?
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=77802&highlight=

ooc:- No I know that..My request was for an official statement from the attackers to the world answering those points. Plus help the RP along by giving the attackers a IC stated goal for their attack ie:- Iesus could say I'm after the main Island manufacturing complex & data storage center then anyone who orbital bombard the island would allow resi to say You destroyed the data storage center leaving Iesus short one objective & unhappy with the player who destroyed it. (In other words it would stop mass orbital attacks & get troops into the city.)

For you Resi:

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For Slagkattunger.

1. My goals. Destroy Resi Corps abilitiy to wage war and gain economic increases from conquered lands.
2. That's up to the rest of us to decide, nobody can say what they get and what someone else gets before we know what what's left.
3. They are mostly corporation workers no? If not then well they'd be trained to work in production facilities.
4. None.
5. No.
6. No comment.
7. Friendly fire happens. The reason I havent deployed my ground troops is because there are too many factors that would limit their semi-independant processors working effectively to reduce friendly casualties. Air craft are attacking only known resi corp areas. As far as I know landing forces are on the beaches. I'm bombing cities near them. I would be surprised if I didnt hit friendlies but hey it happens.

And as an independant part, Air Defense problems, my aircraft initiated their runs at something like 93,000ft not much can hit from up there and 12 planes out of how ever many others attacking is relatively low. Their stealth capabilities lower them some more. If Resi would provide adequate info on what his Air Defenses are I'll happily modify my posts to include appropriate details. For now they are using the allied air craft runs to limit their exposure to AA defenses and utalising their stealth capabilities to the fullest.

~Some guy.

OOC:

Troop summary as requested for the Whispering Voices expeditionary force. There are two sets of what is detailed below, one Whispering Voices the other Hushed Breaths/Quiet Laughter/Murderous Tendencies/Endless Regrets [Whispering Voices could easily field another fifteen such expeditions if it chose, so instead of boosting numbers with those other forces their just going to be there to provide a different RP style angle if I choose]:

25 Selkie CVF carriers (these are about half the size of a Nimitz)
100 Redcap destroyers
100 Boggart frigates
100 Trafalgar Sunset hunterkiller submarines
50 Vanguard ballistic missile submarines
1,000 'David Seaman' class Goalkeeper platforms
200 'Michael Owen' class launches
100 'George Best' troop carriers
500 'Paul Simon' mobility ships

The "David Seaman" is essentially an unmanned Goalkeeper on an automated pontoon. They can lower 'subnets' (nets with weights on, that cause the David Seaman to sink under the weight of a torpedo rather than the actual manned ships behind it). Their main disadvantage is that in order to keep the pontoons light, they have to be reloaded physically by crewmen in the 'Michael Owen' launches: so under massive heavy barrage, they eventually break down.

500 Mig-39 advances
500 Su-37 advances
50 C-170 Hercules
200 CH47-D Chinooks
10 CH54 Skycrane

The above aircraft are actually on a base in Santa Barbaran lands, but within easy range of Resi island.

250,000 infantry
20,000 artillerymen
2,500 Crusader artillery platforms
2,500 MLRS artillery platforms
20,000 Starstreak air-defence troops
5,000 Starstreak VABs
100 Sherwood Arrow batteries (anti-MLRBM)
5,000 Leclercs
15,000 VABs
5,000 Apache AH64-D Longbows
2,000 Comanche
5,000 Black Hawk
100,000 armoured personnel division
40,000 Specops (35,000 army, 5,000 Navy, 5,000 paratroops)

There we go. As a rule, although the things are directly ganked from modern tech they've been updated ('better' armour, more stored-kills per vehicle, planes way faster). The main advantage is they can co-ordinate the entire force via the ARES system, which allows auto-targeting, firepower splitting, and so on over a period of under a second.

The soldiers have a variety of smart-linked gun that allows ARES to aim their weapons at unperceived threats, and fire it too. Instead of massive mechanical things, it's a very elegant series of electrodes in the sleeves which exert currents causing the muscles to 'spasm' in position. On the positive side, this is very light and means that random people can't steal the smartlinks. On the negative side, if a trooper's smartlink is destroyed, he has to wait til he can get to a decent size supply depot before they can configure him a new one.

All troops are in full bodyarmour (with NBC protection).

200 Wisps
5 Inquisitors (Endless Regrets)
1 'Flying Fortress' (Murderous Tendencies)
10 Lords and Ladies (Hushed Breaths)

Wisps were used in the Knootoss war. They're pretty secret, generally, so research will need to be done about them by you if you need to know.
Inquisitors are like people. They have swords (with batteries, makes them look like lightning swords), and magic doesn't work on them or around them. They'll be travelling with the big units.
Lords and Ladies would be all-powerful ... apart from the fact they'll be with the Inquisitors, so have no power. They're like Irish folk-tale fae, with glamour and so on.

As for positions: the fiefdom forces are around Nai isle, Whispering Voices is around Unus/Jain isle (or at least, heading that way). Satellite scans have found nothing military on those two islands (including silos) according to you, and sonar and deep sonar drones have found no submarines around them.

I've not *actually* done anything with them apart from scans, tentative flyovers with AWACs. Vegana's hovercraft actually overtook my forces heading to Nai isle, so will get there first. Planes are scrambled, ready to intercept. Ship point defences (GRASER goodness) are ready to field assaults. The troop carriers are positioning to allow troop deployment.

Anyway, that was the OOC summary.

ooc:- Did anyone bother to read this? Or are you all too busy ignoring Resi's defences & somehow getting your groundforces into his waters without him attacking?

OOC: More an IC ignore - IL's leaders are a bit too busy listening to the voices in their heads. Doesn't this belong more in the vaguely diplomatic thread?

*smacks people for using AIs*

By the way, by definition an AI is capable of spreading therefore is a virus. No firewall is perfect, but no virus is perfect.

You could try roleplaying like deckers in Shadowrun to settle it - with an infiltration team, ICE, so on.

Funny thing is, I think Iesus is ignoring this war.

The world goes on as it was 5 days ago.

Funny, i read every page... and i seem to have far less time than Resi, considering our post counts/ joining dates.

however, a quick summary of attacks for our lazy twit:

1. bombed Resi city with ~ 40kt conventional explosives

2. eradicated the coastal defences with plasma bombardement from my fleets

3. attacked Resi`s airforce with about 60kt`s of conventional explosives

4. attacked coastal defences by air, ~ 30kt conventional explosives

All air attacks happened from either ~500km or 80km above, between 100 and 18km from the shores, except the plasma bombardement, ~ 40km from the shores, surface level.

All bombers were protected by fighters (equal in numbers), so is my fleet.

And conveniently, i have to catch a train in a few hours... when i arrive where i am heading too, i will log in, and if i don`t see losses posted no matter if Resi logged in or not, i post them.

I`m far too patient.

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ic:

After being attacked, the pilots of the fleet realised their mistake... they extended their low- level electromagnetic fields, drugs were pumped into their vein system, they fully emerged from the water, floating in the air... Their telepathic range extended to maximum, with three fleets so near together...

Now, they would know anything.

Ok, lets start by year RPing in. DNS is currently circa 3500, and the AI cores are running off fairly small soild state storage and a diamond processor bank that is exposed to vacume to deal with heat issues. The diamond processor tech is RL tech, and is fairly exclusive DNS tech. It's extreamly hard to find the sweet spot for the growth of a single cristal able to be + and - charged.

Audio/Visual isn't possible when the sheilds are up unless the ships in question have the same equipment on the same set of standards. Therefor the transmission was text only. And my AI's have politeness routines enabled.

The power sources are a fusion system, which produces more power per capita than the fission reaction systems in use today. Because life support is not nessasary, it allows for the generators and mirco fission systems to be implemented. It's important to note that there is about 3 days of fuel aboard the ships, more if they're in a planetary system/ dust field that their ramscoops can gather more fuel in. FTL is attained by a fairly-low energy cost slipstream procedure.

The armor aboard the crafts is a reflective diamond alloy, around 3 feet thick. These are the purely spacecraft, and not their hybrid or atmosphereic cousins. 3 carriers with 250 each means a total of 750. I'm about to post the stats in pic form, but the info is slightly outdated. AI's are now more prevalent in the military then they were when the ships were built.

OOCly:
Assuming this means we're just accepting each other's Tech then.

Ewok Pride is way way in the future, Traveller TL level over 18.
The disintegrators essentially shred things on a subatomic level - so inherent target strength isn't an issue: it's all about density. Diamonds are quite dense, so it would take a few seconds for the disintegrator to penetrate through. Their other disadvantage is that unlike energy transferral weapons (from lasers to kinetics) disintegrators don't directly spread heat around. However, indirectly, they work by breaking the bounds between particles - so every particle broken is a fission reaction, with the resultant destruction. They cut through a circular area of roughly a 10 metre diamater.

The Ewok Pride ships don't have shields. The surface of the ships appears to be organic in nature, with a slick and tough skin that shows up easily on LIDAR - perfect refraction. They are very big, however. The armour density is high - close on ten metres on the capital ships, more on the big log. The fighters, conversely, have no armour. Just an assortment of energy weapons and targeting systems.

Ewok ships don't appear per se to have obvious FTL technology. They are however ejecting fuel, so not using reactionless drives.

OOC:









Oh, since OOBs are being posted.









Avoiding the issue of what Infinite Loving' s unit names are and that structure will look different when I've thought it out, this is close enough to be an OOB for this conflict.









Task force




of

Naval logistics and support provided by Wehrmacht.




Task force level assets




2 Army groups




of

Group level assets (inc. 3 regiments tactical air)




3 Reinforced heavy corps




of

Corps level assets (inc. 2 regiment tactical air)




1 Armored division




1 Mechanized infantry division




2 Infantry divisions






(Now imagine that BBCode could do indentation...)






Some points on character:

IL is landlocked and mountainous, and until it was accepted into the Reich insanely poor. The only reason they weren't conquered historically is that the territory basically stinks.




Tradition means IL basically only has land forces.




To make visualization easier - and from laziness! - division structure is much like US. This will be retconned later, but not in this conflict. There is more emphasis on tube and rocket artillery, and on engineers.




IL has an unsound fascination with fire and demolition. This is reflected in vehicle variants and in the grenade module of the Reich's standard OICW-like weapon commonly being replaced by a bullpup-configuration incinerator weapon.




The typical IL infantryman is tall, bronzed, in incredible physical condition and possessing great looks and a strong voice. This is for reasons of eugenics. He is motivated, unshakable and acts without hate. This is for reasons of nerve stapling, indoctrination and being completely f*cked in the head.




Training and equipment is quite good. IL's army is a professional one and there is huge esprit de corps.




IL troops - and civilians for that matter - are badly screwed up by civilized standards, but within their own social context very well adjusted. They're intelligent, dignified and at a fundamental level believe they are doing right.





Edit: Poor replacement for indented lists.
Edit: Added a "commonly" that I thought I'd written.

OOC Look... calm down everyone.

I have my doubts Iesus is ignoring this thread. At a guess I'd say that he's doing what was asked and leaving off follow-up posts until he got a response. Or maybe RL issues mean he hasn't been online?

Vthnaar
Wait a moment and settle down. This thing can't be moved onwards by shouting... very little can. Lets see what a bit of reasonign can do...

Resi,
I have the deepest sympathy for OOC issues. Nobody is saying that RL is not more important that this game (note to Eris) and that you should certainly not feel obligated to post here, or anywhere, on the forums. But you have been posting in the past and it has caused a lot of IC interaction, at the same time impressing people sufficiently that they want to RP a war with you, rather than just ignore you. That in itself is a major compliment.
The thing people are getting tetchy over is that you are online and you are taking the time to talk to Roania on this thread... for all his volume of posts he really hasn't done much at all in or around the actual subject of this thread. And there are people who are integral to this (Iesus) who haven't had a peep back IC. Everyone knows that RL comes first : but you are here and you have only actually RPed with one person... how do you think that make the rest of them feel? Thats why people are being tetchy.

Roania,
You said you were ignoring this thread... but you are still posting. I assume therefore that you have changed your mind (rather than misunderstood the word 'ignore').
I don't have any particular preference as to whether you are in or out of the thread, but can we try to keep the posts relevant and IC? Please?

Slagkattunger,
You do not have the OOC right to demand those answers. You can ask for them IC and take umbrage at not recieving an answer... I even understood why you did it first time around. People saw it, read it and IC ignored it. Many of their characters have no interest in talking to you. Sorry.

Wyrmberg, Roania and to a lesser extent GMC and Steel Butteryfly,
Old saying... "If you don't have anythign usefull to say..."
This thread doesn't need a lot of the people posting. This includes me, but it also includes you.

Dark Storm Virus vs. 01...
This really doesn't need to be argued now... in fact the release of the DSV could better be done in its own thread. Then you can RP out the release of (and defence against) the virus should that occur.
Besides which, since 01 is a fair late-commer to the situation... there is a lot to get through before they show up on the horizon.

So far...
Nobody has deployed any ground troops: it is, after all, an island. They have commited them as forces to be moved in later but so far we have air strikes, a number of major naval attacks and a space battle that went to heck after a the PCC chunk of the wall of battle changed sides mid-conflict.

Sorry to rant so, but this has the potential to be great fun and the potential to self-distruct horrendously. I want the former to happen.

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Slagkattunger,
You do not have the OOC right to demand those answers. You can ask for them IC and take umbrage at not recieving an answer... I even understood why you did it first time around. People saw it, read it and IC ignored it. Many of their characters have no interest in talking to you. Sorry.

ooc:- But it was IC my nation is trying to get the attackers to announce to the NS Universe their answers to the question, so that a)Be shown for what they are & b)Try and prevent war crimes.

Slagkattunger,
You do not have the OOC right to demand those answers. You can ask for them IC and take umbrage at not recieving an answer... I even understood why you did it first time around. People saw it, read it and IC ignored it. Many of their characters have no interest in talking to you. Sorry.

ooc:- But it was IC my nation is trying to get the attackers to announce to the NS Universe their answers to the question, so that a)Be shown for what they are & b)Try and prevent war crimes.

Hey boyo, In wars the victorours always decide what's a warcrime and not.

I think people are leaning quite hard at Resi. I'll spend an hour to do a summary of all attacks in this thread and post it as another topic. I think it is only fair since a lot of that ole flaming is going on and So far I think Resi hasn't been hard on the Ignore button.

Sigh. OK, I'll re-post my summary which I already gave. You know, the summary to the 4000+ word massive surprise attack in which I revealed I've been on Iesus' side this whole time and gave him the chopper design with all this planned out.

1. Some background. My leadership, having been deployed for some time for close defense of Resi, and not to mention leading and being the main body in the Corporate Islands Union Defense Force, have been planning the downfall of Resi Corporation with the Reich, Devil’s Desert allies, and Menelmacar (the rest of you are responding to the situation as it develops, hence your things are chronologically later) We’ve all got our reasons; for my leadership, its greed. Resi Corp is competition, and the Conglomerate has decided to be a coldhearted evil backstabbing bastard.

2. My forces have launched an all-out surprise attack on all fronts from point-blank range. They have also been planning this attack out. In space, the attack goes for a minute, and then half our forces withdraw, while the other hits Resi forces that remain from longer range. At the same time, Reich forces are doing their attack. On my end,

-Airborne troops are attacking near South Point, Resi City and the region to the west and south.

-Navy fleets are bombarding everything with missiles and shore bombardment guns and patrolling the seas surrounding the island.

-Aircraft have begun to open fire on any Resi Corp planes they see (other than civilian aircraft).
Bombers are flying with Iesus and Reich attackers.

-Space fleet has opened up on the many smaller Resi Corp crafts with a massive coordinated fleet barrage of missiles, both the slower moving but more accurate types, and the kinetic types. This is a point-blank assault here using the entire 1st Orbital Fleet. BTW, my ships are designed to excel in a rapid-launch, overwhelming first-strike capacity. Much like this one.

3. Also, I sold the Tiltrotor designs and specs to Iesus Christi. So yes, he can definitely produce them. I got them long ago from Resi directly, and I’m just gonna assume that my engineers aren’t monkeys and that they could reverse-engineer the thing over all these years.

4. My leadership communicates with the anti-Resi coalition, coordinates some things at the strategic/diplomatic level.

5. My leadership informs Resi’s remaining allies that we won’t fire on you if you stand down and not fire on us. We’re just here for Resi.

Also I'd like to point out that this whole business of people jumping in cuz they feel like, at the last minute, and expecting responses to their attacks, is pissing me off. How long did it take for the Gulf War land invasion to be set up? Six months of buildup, stockpiling, transporting! And yet magically, some nations in here can do all that, with forces much larger, the instant your nations leader turns on the TV and sees Resi is being attacked! Amazing.

Well I've been planning this all out, as I've said. Look here: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=75620&highlight= about halfway down the page at my second post. "Analysts wonder if the recent reportings of increased activity from the ITDO are connected with the DAMOCLES defense program, but so far indications show that mobilization of naval, air and ground forces has been concentrated on the PCC holdings in the Corporate Islands." So not only have I been pre-positioning and supplying my forces for some time, I've planned this strike and betrayal out. So please people take that into account.

I think I can safely say that this is Iesus Christi's official response to the Resi Conflict, or lack thereof. (I think he wrote it out while awaiting a response from Resi.)
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=79510&highlight=

However, The Reich has not come to an agreement on this policy. Also, I don't think Matty knows that Resi has at least posted if not responded to his attacks.
OOCly:
I will dispatch a message to The Lord Protector, Matthew Iesus, forthwith.

OOC:

To summarise my posts... 10 Kalessin battle-barges have just deposited 200,000 infantry on the shore of Resi, from where they intend to march inland and take as many prisoners as possible.

A sizable Dragon-Mounted force is ready to attack at very short notice if necessary.

((OOC: Dragon-mounted, eh? That would make you a fantasy nation.
IGNORED.

Ah, my first ignore of the RP. Sort of makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.

Thanks to those of you who have posted summaries. Though IV, I gotta sa that turning against us was a pretty stupid move ICly. We weren't making products that directly competed with yours, and what few corporate countries there are need to protect each other militarily. Sense the disbanding of the internatonal PCC (in all but your nations), the Corporate Islands has been the center of Corporate power. To destroy it would leave you open to be later sacked and destroyed by the Reich or any other group of nations that holds you in disreguard))

OOC: ICly, I've ensured that I have enough allies that that will not be a realistic threat. Im not sure what you mean by the disbanding of the international PCC in all but my nations. The PCC is still very much around; just not as a game region. Actually, the center of power is in SB and always has been, IV and anything else is just more corporate assets. And after the whole, Melkor invasion, we removed our HQ back to SB, and removed all but a tenth of the CIUDF forces (except for the recent troop buildup and everything). And lastly, two words: corporate takeover.

So ah, hows your planes/cities/stuff holding up to my attack?

((OOC: Dragon-mounted, eh? That would make you a fantasy nation.
IGNORED.

I just want to clear this up.

You have empaths/telepaths, AIs, deal with Roania [a nation known for both using vampires and being controlled by Eldar, who have mass psychic powers from a universe with huge amounts of magic (Tzeentch, high elves)], and you're married to a Chaos goddess ... yet you claim to ignore fantasy?

That's somewhat ... amusing.

oh shit, I cannot believe I just read 5 pages of all this junk and wasted 15 minutes of my life doing so....on to better things, this war....(biting tongue)

OMG! Is this NS at its finest? or just another typical ending? BTW IC, I read the isolationist thread, good job!!

BZZZZZ, I 'm outta here

oh shit, I cannot believe I just read 5 pages of all this junk and wasted 15 minutes of my life doing so....on to better things, this war....(biting tongue)

OMG! Is this NS at its finest? or just another typical ending? BTW IC, I read the isolationist thread, good job!!

BZZZZZ, I 'm outta hereOOC: here here phyrric, Im honestly disqusted at this I left last night seeing a moderate amount of flamebait expecting it to slowly fade away, but now it seems to have turned into an all out Napalm! Brand (Flame with a brand you can trust! flame with Napalm! this advertisement brought to you by Phoenix Millitary Industries) slinging fun fest...

But whatever, Im sorry Resi but Im getting out of this flame fest before it consumes everyone, guys lighten up really... its just a game... DA hope you didnt take my torpedo attacks personally I just choose a random fleet as I didnt have a map yet, but I enjoyed Rping with you, good luck on your future endevours... except this one of course :wink:

IC: There mission complete and seeing no ample targets of oppurtunity the Crawler turned its tail and scuttled at full speed back to the sub tender far off in international waters.

((OOC: Dragon-mounted, eh? That would make you a fantasy nation.
IGNORED.

I just want to clear this up.

You have empaths/telepaths, AIs, deal with Roania [a nation known for both using vampires and being controlled by Eldar, who have mass psychic powers from a universe with huge amounts of magic (Tzeentch, high elves)], and you're married to a Chaos goddess ... yet you claim to ignore fantasy?

That's somewhat ... amusing.((OOC: ummm... Resi... I hate to do this to ya... but I'm considered a fantasy nation too... *hides* seriously... I've got modern tech, and even some future tech, but I'm also a fantasy nation.... how do you think my subs are powered? Their not nuclar (though I have the tech for it, its just cheaper to use draconic and elven magic) Not to mention Eris herself is a Goddess... ummm yeah. Sorry babe.
Don't worry about dragon mounted though. Their damn easy to take care of *shrug* its like guys on horseback with wings basicaly. Big deal. Lazers easly get past dragon scales.
oh... by the way. Did you ever get that TG from me? if not I can send it again, but if you act on it I must state here and now... it was sent out early, like when my subs arrived (way way back) so your recation to it would have technicaly happened before a lot of these attacks (but not all of them). I can resend the TG if you need it. I saved it. I just don't want any one bitching about the results of it, cuz it'd be like a mini-rewind.
alright, I think I've babbled enough, and the computer is making wierd noises again))

OOC:

Don't worry about dragon mounted though. Their damn easy to take care of *shrug* its like guys on horseback with wings basicaly. Big deal. Lazers easly get past dragon scales.

:roll:

*Watches lazers fail dismally to harm Dragon*

*Yawns*

*Sees guy with railgun appear on the horizon*

*Swears very loudly*

OOC: Iesus has announced publically that he is withdrawing forces from this campaign. Mainly due to his dislike of all this uber tech. I never was too enthusiastic about the whole thing to begin with.

Also, I kinna thought, after being reminded by Siri, that King Will likely would not order an attack on Resi city that would do so much damage and so much harm. Just ignore that. I am trying to decide whether or not to withdraw from this entire Issue there are reasons for and against you know. Ill think about it then speak later.

OOC:

I read it as he was withdrawing after the Resi business was finished.

20 hours ago The Holy Empire of Iesus Christi http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=79510
OOCly: NS is abit spas at the mo:) esp with the wanky Uber tech, so we're in 'isolation' once this resi thing clears-if ever. Heil victory etc :P


(from the Reich board). Just to clarify

OOCly:
Assuming this means we're just accepting each other's Tech then.

Ewok Pride is way way in the future, Traveller TL level over 18.
The disintegrators essentially shred things on a subatomic level - so inherent target strength isn't an issue: it's all about density. Diamonds are quite dense, so it would take a few seconds for the disintegrator to penetrate through. Their other disadvantage is that unlike energy transferral weapons (from lasers to kinetics) disintegrators don't directly spread heat around. However, indirectly, they work by breaking the bounds between particles - so every particle broken is a fission reaction, with the resultant destruction. They cut through a circular area of roughly a 10 metre diamater.

The Ewok Pride ships don't have shields. The surface of the ships appears to be organic in nature, with a slick and tough skin that shows up easily on LIDAR - perfect refraction. They are very big, however. The armour density is high - close on ten metres on the capital ships, more on the big log. The fighters, conversely, have no armour. Just an assortment of energy weapons and targeting systems.

Ewok ships don't appear per se to have obvious FTL technology. They are however ejecting fuel, so not using reactionless drives.

OOC: 1st off, there is no perfect refraction. Some energy will become heat and pressure.

2nd, my sheilds are mass-repuslive, and your disruptor beams would have mass by definition, perhaps not a whole lot, but mass none the less. Now, I don't know a huge amount about gluons, so please point me to whatever site you got the gluon disruptor from.

3rd, Please post your numbers for everything, as I am now.

56kers, apoligising in advance. I'll try and keep the total number of pics low.

Agressor-class Carrier, 3 in taskforce
http://www2.freepichosting.com/Images/79374/1.jpg
http://www2.freepichosting.com/Images/79374/2.jpg

Sentek-class Gunboats, 120 in taskforce
http://www2.freepichosting.com/Images/79704/2.jpg
Uses nano-tech self-healing, and has 5 AI as crew. The living crew requirement was eliminated in upgrades.

Nebulon-g, Destroyer, 30 in taskforce
Length: 523 meters
Crew: 90 crew, 43 flight crew, 3000 troops(optional), 26 AIs.
Armament: 144 Turbolasers, 23 Laser Cannons, 16 broadside Ion Cannons

Needle-class support frigates.

http://www2.freepichosting.com/Images/89073/0.jpg
http://www2.freepichosting.com/Images/89073/1.jpg
http://www2.freepichosting.com/Images/89073/2.jpg

Aliante-class, support vessels, runs of a single AI core, I think.
http://www2.freepichosting.com/Images/89073/3.jpg
http://www2.freepichosting.com/Images/89073/4.jpg
http://www2.freepichosting.com/Images/89073/5.jpg

OOCly: I have to agree with Reichskamphen here. King Will has always used good judement; I will not engage in this confilct any longer unless Will decides otherwise (The Reich has 50 % of my troops in The Werhmacht). However, please bear in mind that I, nor The Reich have decided if we agree with Iesus' Isolationist policy. I might be Matty's woman but I'm not that crazy.

OOCly,
1) Gluons simplified (http://www.bnl.gov/rhic/QGP.htm). Now, to repulse a laser, that would mean your shield had infinite energy, since lasers travel at the speed of light and have infinite mass - at least, assuming 'matter repulsing' means using exotic matter, which exerts negative gravity (hence, repulsing). It's far from inconceivable that exotic matter's reverse gravity could bend a laser, but it's not conceivable that it will stop it entirely. Plus it wouldn't really matter, since whatever your shield was constructed of would be decomposed as the gluons broke it down. As previously stated, defence against the disintegrator is based on density of molecules. Shields just don't cut it. Gluons are the particles of strong nuclear force. Breaking them disrupts the stability of atomic nuclei (aka. Fission).
2) Perfect refraction to optics-grade lasers. I can only assume you're using lasers to 'see' with - not that a magical shield that bounced everything would allow you to see.
3) Numbers. Armor is based on a depleted silicate/methyl/ammonia/titanium hybrid. Registers as very organic.
'Big Log' - x1. 15,000 meters x 2,000 meters wide x 500 meters high. Mounts 90 Disintegrators (15 per side face, 30 top and bottom). XRASER point defences (x lots and lots). 100 missile tubes per face. 'Defiler' sensor jamming equipment. 'Very strong' armor. Carries 100 'Twig's.
'Oak Branch' capital ships - x20. 5,000 meters x 1,000 meters x 250 meters high. Mounts 20 Disintegrators (5 per face). Has 20 missile tubes per face. XRASER point defences (x lots). Carries 200 'Twig's. Electronic warfare suites.
'Elm Branch' battleships - x40. 1,000 meters x 500 meters x 100 meters.
Mounts 8 Disintegrators (2 per face). 50 missile tubes per face. XRASER point defences.
'Willow Branch' destroyers - x80. 500 meters x 250 meters x 100 meters. Mounts 4 Disintegrators (1 per face). 25 missile tubes per face. XRASER point defences (x some).
'Twig' fighters - 100 on the 'Big Log'. 200 each on the 'Oak Branch'es. MASER electronics engagement warfare. Advanced tactical guidance systems. Interceptor/missile destroyer role.
'Killer' drones. 1,000 on the 'Big Log'. 1,500 on the 'Oak Branch'. Advanced targeting systems, mount one XRASER with limited ammunition. Sensor drone/missile destroyer role.

I feel all dirty for those numbers. Suffice to say Ewok Pride's fleet, whilst generally concerned only with picketing in wars, is as large as one might expect from a highly advanced big space nation.

OOC Addendum to my earlier rant...

DNS vs Ewok Pride...
Can we take this outside? I know how complicated travellor gets... a friend of mine is a gearhead for the system. But its not time to debate, at length, with pic, in the middle of this (already floundering) thread?
c'mon... arge this one over telegrams and come back to us when you've decided to invoke Kits' law of relative technology.

((OOC: Dragon-mounted, eh? That would make you a fantasy nation.
IGNORED.

I just want to clear this up.

You have empaths/telepaths, AIs, deal with Roania [a nation known for both using vampires and being controlled by Eldar, who have mass psychic powers from a universe with huge amounts of magic (Tzeentch, high elves)], and you're married to a Chaos goddess ... yet you claim to ignore fantasy?

That's somewhat ... amusing.

I actually am waiting for further orders from CENNA high command before I get involved.

Apparently, someone towards the top decided that chemical and acid bombardment was a bad thing, so my people are waiting for an airport to be taken.

Then I will send in legionarres and Inquisitors, around 5000 legionarres and 700 Inquisitors. And 7 CENTURIONS...

Not including Phantom Machines, dropships and artillery.

So, come on people!

((I was ignoring this thread in the hope that others would see my point and start a new one. Guess I was wrong.))

((OOC: I ignore dragons simply because they're uber-powerful, and even a two-day-old nation can have them. They have the potential of re-useable nukes, and are available to all nations reguardless of age.))

"The casualty report from the (Santa) Barbarian bombardment has been published, madam!"
"*sigh* Well, I guess there's no hiding from it. Show it to me."
*the servant holds out a data CD to Dae Narasagi, who places it in the drive of her PC. At once, the screen lights up, displaying a graph of the casualties in different areas of the Resi Corporation. Highest in casualties was Jain, coming in at half a million losses. All in all, 3 million lives were lost to the Barbarian ortillary bombardment, and severe damage was caused to the residential sectors of cities in particular*
"Okay," Dae said firmly, ejecting the CD, "We can't go on like this. Those backstabbers need to learn the fate of traitors. Prepare to leech 'em."

The ships in orbit (20,000) that declared themselves peaceful Resian envoys hit the gas, shooting themselves straight into as many enemy vessels as possible. They aim more for PCC and Iesus ships than any others, and once they attach to a vessel they burrow in and explode with the heat and power of the sun.
((these are Leeches, which I bought off of the Vortex Corporation then modified with my technology))

"But the leeches shouldn't be enough," Dawn mused, "We should send some nanobombs their way to show them what true desolation feels like."

High in orbit above Iesus Christi, HARU, and Santa Barbara, little baseball-sized objects that could easily be mistaken for space debris change their orbits around the blue globe known as Earth and instead plummet towards the surface of this sphere. The capitals and second-largest cities of these empires are hit with "clean bombs"*, while in addition the capital of Santa Barbara ((would it be "Santa Barbara?" :) )) is striken with a Rotan Bomb (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=71702).

*A "clean bomb" essentially tears a city to pieces on a molecular level (using nanomachines), leaving large piles of raw elements scattered about where a city once stood. Living beings and non-artifical fibers (cotton, for example) are programmed in the machines as untouchable, thus leaving the human/animal/plant population of the effected area in tact. These bombs move incredibly slow, and we suppose it would take about three days to demolish the capital city of any one of these nations with a bomb of this nature.

OOC: You, my friend, have opened the door to me.

IC:

The Council room is a hive of activity. "Minister, your orders?"

Edmund looks to Alexander. They both nod at once. "Ready the SeaSprays. Let us show the Resi Corporation why they should surrender."

On the northern edges of the island, several hatches open. Acid filled warheads are loaded into ICBMs specially designed for this task.

OOC: You, my friend, have opened the door to me.

IC:

The Council room is a hive of activity. "Minister, your orders?"

Edmund looks to Alexander. They both nod at once. "Ready the SeaSprays. Let us show the Resi Corporation why they should surrender."

On the northern edges of the island, several hatches open. Acid filled warheads are loaded into ICBMs specially designed for this task.((Mind you, you don't know about anything but the leeches. We launched Resian Rotan bombs, so you don't know about those either.

And for the love of God, you're not going to use the exploding acid warheads with fans for spreading that that one n00b was making a while back, are you? If not (hopefully) then what are these things?))

((OOC: I ignore dragons simply because they're uber-powerful, and even a two-day-old nation can have them. They have the potential of re-useable nukes, and are available to all nations reguardless of age.))

Err, sparky, I hate to burst your bubble, but you have 300 million robots. You're not in a position to ignore dragons.

Err, sparky, I hate to burst your bubble, but you have 300 million robots. You're not in a position to ignore dragons.((OOC: If they put a fair ammount of biological research into it, I'm not. But if they say that dragons are naturally occuring, I can ignore them. You're forgetting that we have to research and make robots.))

OOC: You, my friend, have opened the door to me.

IC:

The Council room is a hive of activity. "Minister, your orders?"

Edmund looks to Alexander. They both nod at once. "Ready the SeaSprays. Let us show the Resi Corporation why they should surrender."

On the northern edges of the island, several hatches open. Acid filled warheads are loaded into ICBMs specially designed for this task.((Mind you, you don't know about anything but the leeches. We launched Resian Rotan bombs, so you don't know about those either.

And for the love of God, you're not going to use the exploding acid warheads with fans for spreading that that one n00b was making a while back, are you? If not (hopefully) then what are these things?))

OOC: SeaSpray Acid missiles. Roanian designed and manufactured. And that was an OOC gloat, Icly I was planning to do this the entire time, but Menelmacar was interfering. So after she expresses distaste for your attack

Err, sparky, I hate to burst your bubble, but you have 300 million robots. You're not in a position to ignore dragons.((OOC: If they put a fair ammount of biological research into it, I'm not. But if they say that dragons are naturally occuring, I can ignore them. You're forgetting that we have to research and make robots.))

Check my national animal. Bye.

Check my national animal. Bye.((The dragons are ignored, not your nation.

Roania, Menelmacar especially won't find out about this sort of thing. She doesn't particularly like to share info or anything else with the elf-hating Reich.

((As you'll recall, we designed Rotan to spread endlessly within a brief period of time. And Santa Barbera knows of it, I should think. Trust me, CENNA will eventually learn...))

Space ... above the nation of Santa Barbara ...

The net of LIDAR satellites that comprise the outer edge of the DAMOCLES system pick up a floating piece of debris that appears to suddenly gain purpose and directions. Beams of light flash around as the closest Jameson class platform is informed.

Its computers process, determining trajectory, location and probable intent of the object. Under a second later, it communicates with the rest of the DAMOCLES platforms and satellites. A new-issue Brilliant Arrow satellite, armed with updated GRASER technology, focuses on the Rotan bomb - and hits it, with enough megajoules of energy to vaporise a Triconderoga. The ground-based systems begin to kick in, in the inconceivable event the thing hasn't been turned entirely to smoke.


OOC:
DAMOCLES can be found here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1658750#1658750), although Jon hasn't updated it to replace the lasers with grasers yet (as was decided previously).

((As you'll recall, we designed Rotan to spread endlessly within a brief period of time. And Santa Barbera knows of it, I should think. Trust me, CENNA will eventually learn...))((Ah, but neither of us have told SB anything about it, so how could he? :wink:

And CENNA will eventually learn, after it's too late.))

Check my national animal. Bye.((The dragons are ignored, not your nation.

Roania, Menelmacar especially won't find out about this sort of thing. She doesn't particularly like to share info or anything else with the elf-hating Reich.

The Grand Dragon is a symbol of our nation, and our history doesn't work without it. It also leaves us with bombers named after nothing. So, again, bye.

((As you'll recall, we designed Rotan to spread endlessly within a brief period of time. And Santa Barbera knows of it, I should think. Trust me, CENNA will eventually learn...))((Ah, but neither of us have told SB anything about it, so how could he? :wink:

And CENNA will eventually learn, after it's too late.))

*Looks embarrased. Stops. Looks evil...*

IC: "This is Roania ATC to Whispering Voices. We believe you have intercepted a chemical warhead. Requesting permission to retaliate likewise."

Space ... above the nation of Santa Barbara ...

The net of LIDAR satellites that comprise the outer edge of the DAMOCLES system pick up a floating piece of debris that appears to suddenly gain purpose and directions. Beams of light flash around as the closest Jameson class platform is informed.

Its computers process, determining trajectory, location and probable intent of the object. Under a second later, it communicates with the rest of the DAMOCLES platforms and satellites. A new-issue Brilliant Arrow satellite, armed with updated GRASER technology, focuses on the Rotan bomb - and hits it, with enough megajoules of energy to vaporise a Triconderoga. The ground-based systems begin to kick in, in the inconceivable event the thing hasn't been turned entirely to smoke.Oh please, you wouldn't know jack about the bomb. And let's be honest with ourselves, would you shoot such a powerful missile to destroy a baseball-sized object that would apparently cause no harm whatsoever to the ground below? I mean, even if it changes direction abruptly, you wouldn't use a missile that large. Hell, you probably wouldn't even detect it, it's not like it's a satellite.

And why do you have ships over SB anyway? This is so riddled with GODMODery and bad RPing, that I'm tempted to ignore it right now. However, I'll give you a post to explain all this before I ignore.

*Looks embarrased. Stops. Looks evil...*

IC: "This is Roania ATC to Whispering Voices. We believe you have intercepted a chemical warhead. Requesting permission to retaliate likewise."Like hell, you don't know our dispersion method. You have no idea that we drop bombs from orbit. We only gave you the tech for the virus, not for the dispersion.

Besides, as far as I'm concerned WV's finding of the bomb was a horrible RP bordering on ignorance to begin with. Don't add to the crappiness of that.

Space ... above the nation of Santa Barbara ...

The net of LIDAR satellites that comprise the outer edge of the DAMOCLES system pick up a floating piece of debris that appears to suddenly gain purpose and directions. Beams of light flash around as the closest Jameson class platform is informed.

Its computers process, determining trajectory, location and probable intent of the object. Under a second later, it communicates with the rest of the DAMOCLES platforms and satellites. A new-issue Brilliant Arrow satellite, armed with updated GRASER technology, focuses on the Rotan bomb - and hits it, with enough megajoules of energy to vaporise a Triconderoga. The ground-based systems begin to kick in, in the inconceivable event the thing hasn't been turned entirely to smoke.Oh please, you wouldn't know jack about the bomb. And let's be honest with ourselves, would you shoot such a powerful missile to destroy a baseball-sized object that would apparently cause no harm whatsoever to the ground below? I mean, even if it changes direction abruptly, you wouldn't use a missile that large. Hell, you probably wouldn't even detect it, it's not like it's a satellite.

And why do you have ships over SB anyway? This is so riddled with GODMODery and bad RPing, that I'm tempted to ignore it right now. However, I'll give you a post to explain all this before I ignore.

You claimed the warhead landed, that's Godmoding as well. Unless you allow the defender to deal with the attack as they see fit, it's well within their right to say it was stopped before it got to them.

You need to stop threatening to ignore every other time someone posts.

Err, sparky, I hate to burst your bubble, but you have 300 million robots. You're not in a position to ignore dragons.((OOC: If they put a fair ammount of biological research into it, I'm not. But if they say that dragons are naturally occuring, I can ignore them. You're forgetting that we have to research and make robots.))

Can we see the biological research for Empaths and the mechanism via which they work, the exact chemical formula for whatever-the-hell Rotan is, and Eris Kallisti's complete DNA sequences please?

After all, it's not as if Eris started a goddess (oh, wait. Damn!). Seriously ... please stop this farce. It's not as if dragons don't die to simple bullets.

You claimed the warhead landed, that's Godmoding as well. Unless you allow the defender to deal with the attack as they see fit, it's well within their right to say it was stopped before it got to them.

You need to stop threatening to ignore every other time someone posts.((OOC: The bomb that landed was under consent with a nation that wasn't Santa Barbara. Check the time on the post. No, not the edit time, the original post time.

And I've only threatened to ignore twice. The only reason that it's smeared all over this thread is that people take issue with ignores.

*Looks embarrased. Stops. Looks evil...*

IC: "This is Roania ATC to Whispering Voices. We believe you have intercepted a chemical warhead. Requesting permission to retaliate likewise."Like hell, you don't know our dispersion method. You have no idea that we drop bombs from orbit. We only gave you the tech for the virus, not for the dispersion.

Besides, as far as I'm concerned WV's finding of the bomb was a horrible RP bordering on ignorance to begin with. Don't add to the crappiness of that.

OOC: Fine. But I want to acid something!

Can we see the biological research for Empaths and the mechanism via which they work,We don't have it, they're effected by pollutants in our ecosystem. Read their data. the exact chemical formula for whatever-the-hell Rotan is,Go to the thread, it's there.and Eris Kallisti's complete DNA sequences please?We have no reason to have this... :wink:

After all, it's not as if Eris started a goddess (oh, wait. Damn!). Seriously ... please stop this farce. It's not as if dragons don't die to simple bullets.Some do, some don't. If they die to a reasonable ammount of bullets, we won't ignore them. We just don't like to RP against FLIING FORTRESESS OF DETH!!11!!, but rather reasonable creations.

You claimed the warhead landed, that's Godmoding as well. Unless you allow the defender to deal with the attack as they see fit, it's well within their right to say it was stopped before it got to them.

You need to stop threatening to ignore every other time someone posts.((OOC: The bomb that landed was under consent with a nation that wasn't Santa Barbara. Check the time on the post. No, not the edit time, the original post time.

And I've only threatened to ignore twice. The only reason that it's smeared all over this thread is that people take issue with ignores.

Alright, fine. We'll go the other route. Explain how a baseball sides weapon would cause the damage you're claiming, since you're tossing around the Godmoding accusation so freely.

Alright, fine. We'll go the other route. Explain how a baseball sides weapon would cause the damage you're claiming, since you're tossing around the Godmoding accusation so freely.Self-replicating nanomachines.

Do you even bother to read my posts? :?

((OOC: Just a bit of a warning, I'm going to bed in a half-hour. Any war RP you want has to be done within that time.))

Alright, fine. We'll go the other route. Explain how a baseball sides weapon would cause the damage you're claiming, since you're tossing around the Godmoding accusation so freely.Self-replicating nanomachines.

Do you even bother to read my posts? :?


..you believe that self replicating nanomachines can just run around and tear an entire city to bits?

How can you possible claim this, yet ignore dragons?

Not to mention a baseball that can survive re-entry.

Oh please, you wouldn't know jack about the bomb. And let's be honest with ourselves, would you shoot such a powerful missile to destroy a baseball-sized object that would apparently cause no harm whatsoever to the ground below? I mean, even if it changes direction abruptly, you wouldn't use a missile that large. Hell, you probably wouldn't even detect it, it's not like it's a satellite.

And why do you have ships over SB anyway? This is so riddled with GODMODery and bad RPing, that I'm tempted to ignore it right now. However, I'll give you a post to explain all this before I ignore.

Steps for making you look less of a moron:
1) Read the link I posted. This will show you:
a) Why I had control of things over Santa Barbara (enough to post that)
b) That I didn't fire a missile. GRASER /= missile. It's a highly energetic equivalent of a laser - in fact, the most energetic (gamma rays)
c) It got fired at because it abruptly changed vectors and headed straight forwards a member nation.
d) Nothing the size of a baseball that does not lose mass from atmospheric re-entry is natural, sparky. The fact that something that small would be all heat shield and no content and still burn up we'll leave out, shall we?
e) There are hundreds of pre-designated systems in place to detect all sorts of attacks. Simply dropping stuff from orbit is probably the most obvious method of attack in the current Nationstates world, so guess what?
The ultra-paranoid region with over ten independent nations within the top 1000 of defence spends, with some of the largest concentrations of arms manufacture, general manufacture, automobile manufacture, and IT sectors in any one region - bizarrely enough - expected similar attacks.
f) Such a bomb would leave an exhaust trail easily noticeable in the emptiness of space (unless it used magic reactionless propulsion, but of course you don't use magic do you? So it can't have), which would add even further to the alarms screaming "Oh my goodness! Attack, Attack! Object suddenly changing course, blatantly making for one of the DAMOCLES nations during a time of war! Shall we ignore it? Hell no."

((OOC: Just a bit of a warning, I'm going to bed in a half-hour. Any war RP you want has to be done within that time.))

Respond to movements around Nai isle and Jain/Unus isle, then, or I'll assume it was totally pacified without a shot fired.

You know, I helped put it together, so ask me.

Rotan is a chemical weapon placed inside of nano-machines. It is incredibly deadly, but decays quickly so it can't be detected.

I have a vaccine, don't worry.

((OOC: Just a bit of a warning, I'm going to bed in a half-hour. Any war RP you want has to be done within that time.))

Respond to movements around Nai isle and Jain/Unus isle, then, or I'll assume it was totally pacified without a shot fired.What exactly are those movements?

And Roania, what makes you so sure your vaccine will work? :wink:

((OOC: Just a bit of a warning, I'm going to bed in a half-hour. Any war RP you want has to be done within that time.))

Respond to movements around Nai isle and Jain/Unus isle, then, or I'll assume it was totally pacified without a shot fired.What exactly are those movements?

And Roania, what makes you so sure your vaccine will work? :wink:

He's made TWO summaries for you already.

..you believe that self replicating nanomachines can just run around and tear an entire city to bits?

How can you possible claim this, yet ignore dragons?

Not to mention a baseball that can survive re-entry.And yet gravships are perfectly plausible?

Yes, why wouldn't they be able to?

Can we see the biological research for Empaths and the mechanism via which they work,We don't have it, they're effected by pollutants in our ecosystem. Read their data.

That's not detailed enough. Just like you want for dragons, detailed research please.

the exact chemical formula for whatever-the-hell Rotan is,Go to the thread, it's there.

No chemical formulas there. Just a description added today of something that makes no sense.

and Eris Kallisti's complete DNA sequences please?We have no reason to have this... :wink:

You must have, since you interact with her and demand complete research on magic things you interact with.

After all, it's not as if Eris started a goddess (oh, wait. Damn!). Seriously ... please stop this farce. It's not as if dragons don't die to simple bullets.Some do, some don't. If they die to a reasonable ammount of bullets, we won't ignore them. We just don't like to RP against FLIING FORTRESESS OF DETH!!11!!, but rather reasonable creations.[/quote]

So wait until Kalessin says they're invincible to ignore them?

..you believe that self replicating nanomachines can just run around and tear an entire city to bits?

How can you possible claim this, yet ignore dragons?

Not to mention a baseball that can survive re-entry.And yet gravships are perfectly plausible?

Yes, why wouldn't they be able to?

Have you personally ever researched the plausibility of anti-gravity?

The fact is, they are far more plausible than nano-machines that can create matter from nothing.

((OOC: Just a bit of a warning, I'm going to bed in a half-hour. Any war RP you want has to be done within that time.))

Respond to movements around Nai isle and Jain/Unus isle, then, or I'll assume it was totally pacified without a shot fired.What exactly are those movements?

And Roania, what makes you so sure your vaccine will work? :wink:

Because the chemical balance was so flimsy it would stop working at the slightest tweaking.

Trust me, if there is a chemical weapon on this planet, I have a preventative.

IC: "Fire!" The SeaSpray acid missiles fly across the sea, landing in major population centers. An emission masker made it appear undetectable.

"Oops. We weren't meant to do that."

<<<Here it is, Resi>>>

OOC:

Troop summary as requested for the Whispering Voices expeditionary force. There are two sets of what is detailed below, one Whispering Voices the other Hushed Breaths/Quiet Laughter/Murderous Tendencies/Endless Regrets [Whispering Voices could easily field another fifteen such expeditions if it chose, so instead of boosting numbers with those other forces their just going to be there to provide a different RP style angle if I choose]:

25 Selkie CVF carriers (these are about half the size of a Nimitz)
100 Redcap destroyers
100 Boggart frigates
100 Trafalgar Sunset hunterkiller submarines
50 Vanguard ballistic missile submarines
1,000 'David Seaman' class Goalkeeper platforms
200 'Michael Owen' class launches
100 'George Best' troop carriers
500 'Paul Simon' mobility ships

The "David Seaman" is essentially an unmanned Goalkeeper on an automated pontoon. They can lower 'subnets' (nets with weights on, that cause the David Seaman to sink under the weight of a torpedo rather than the actual manned ships behind it). Their main disadvantage is that in order to keep the pontoons light, they have to be reloaded physically by crewmen in the 'Michael Owen' launches: so under massive heavy barrage, they eventually break down.

500 Mig-39 advances
500 Su-37 advances
50 C-170 Hercules
200 CH47-D Chinooks
10 CH54 Skycrane

The above aircraft are actually on a base in Santa Barbaran lands, but within easy range of Resi island.

250,000 infantry
20,000 artillerymen
2,500 Crusader artillery platforms
2,500 MLRS artillery platforms
20,000 Starstreak air-defence troops
5,000 Starstreak VABs
100 Sherwood Arrow batteries (anti-MLRBM)
5,000 Leclercs
15,000 VABs
5,000 Apache AH64-D Longbows
2,000 Comanche
5,000 Black Hawk
100,000 armoured personnel division
40,000 Specops (35,000 army, 5,000 Navy, 5,000 paratroops)

There we go. As a rule, although the things are directly ganked from modern tech they've been updated ('better' armour, more stored-kills per vehicle, planes way faster). The main advantage is they can co-ordinate the entire force via the ARES system, which allows auto-targeting, firepower splitting, and so on over a period of under a second.

The soldiers have a variety of smart-linked gun that allows ARES to aim their weapons at unperceived threats, and fire it too. Instead of massive mechanical things, it's a very elegant series of electrodes in the sleeves which exert currents causing the muscles to 'spasm' in position. On the positive side, this is very light and means that random people can't steal the smartlinks. On the negative side, if a trooper's smartlink is destroyed, he has to wait til he can get to a decent size supply depot before they can configure him a new one.

All troops are in full bodyarmour (with NBC protection).

200 Wisps
5 Inquisitors (Endless Regrets)
1 'Flying Fortress' (Murderous Tendencies)
10 Lords and Ladies (Hushed Breaths)

Wisps were used in the Knootoss war. They're pretty secret, generally, so research will need to be done about them by you if you need to know.
Inquisitors are like people. They have swords (with batteries, makes them look like lightning swords), and magic doesn't work on them or around them. They'll be travelling with the big units.
Lords and Ladies would be all-powerful ... apart from the fact they'll be with the Inquisitors, so have no power. They're like Irish folk-tale fae, with glamour and so on.

As for positions: the fiefdom forces are around Nai isle, Whispering Voices is around Unus/Jain isle (or at least, heading that way). Satellite scans have found nothing military on those two islands (including silos) according to you, and sonar and deep sonar drones have found no submarines around them.

I've not *actually* done anything with them apart from scans, tentative flyovers with AWACs. Vegana's hovercraft actually overtook my forces heading to Nai isle, so will get there first. Planes are scrambled, ready to intercept. Ship point defences (GRASER goodness) are ready to field assaults. The troop carriers are positioning to allow troop deployment.

Anyway, that was the OOC summary.

Steps for making you look less of a moron:
1) Read the link I posted. This will show you:
a) Why I had control of things over Santa Barbara (enough to post that)
b) That I didn't fire a missile. GRASER /= missile. It's a highly energetic equivalent of a laser - in fact, the most energetic (gamma rays)
c) It got fired at because it abruptly changed vectors and headed straight forwards a member nation.
d) Nothing the size of a baseball that does not lose mass from atmospheric re-entry is natural, sparky. The fact that something that small would be all heat shield and no content and still burn up we'll leave out, shall we?
e) There are hundreds of pre-designated systems in place to detect all sorts of attacks. Simply dropping stuff from orbit is probably the most obvious method of attack in the current Nationstates world, so guess what?
The ultra-paranoid region with over ten independent nations within the top 1000 of defence spends, with some of the largest concentrations of arms manufacture, general manufacture, automobile manufacture, and IT sectors in any one region - bizarrely enough - expected similar attacks.
f) Such a bomb would leave an exhaust trail easily noticeable in the emptiness of space (unless it used magic reactionless propulsion, but of course you don't use magic do you? So it can't have), which would add even further to the alarms screaming "Oh my goodness! Attack, Attack! Object suddenly changing course, blatantly making for one of the DAMOCLES nations during a time of war! Shall we ignore it? Hell no."C) Pffft... so? It could've just been overcome by the Earth's gravity at that instant. Did I say that it fell directly towards Santa Barbara?
D) But you see, it doesn't have to have much of a heat sheild because the contents can handle heat. Albeit not the full heat of reentry, which is why there's a small heat sheild. As for loosing mass, who says it doesn't? Nanomachines aren't very big things, y'know.
E) So, with several million tons of space debris falling to Earth every year (more for NS Earth, due to its size and the number of space battles that take place), you really expect to have a system that fires at all of them? Again, Pfft! :roll:
F) If you push an object away from another object is space, the first object begins to move. That being said, no exaust trail is necessary if you're throwing matter away. Note the nanomachines are self-replicating.

He's made TWO summaries for you already.Cool. Just link me to one of 'em.

<This is really irritating>

<<<Here it is, Resi>>>

OOC:

Troop summary as requested for the Whispering Voices expeditionary force. There are two sets of what is detailed below, one Whispering Voices the other Hushed Breaths/Quiet Laughter/Murderous Tendencies/Endless Regrets [Whispering Voices could easily field another fifteen such expeditions if it chose, so instead of boosting numbers with those other forces their just going to be there to provide a different RP style angle if I choose]:

25 Selkie CVF carriers (these are about half the size of a Nimitz)
100 Redcap destroyers
100 Boggart frigates
100 Trafalgar Sunset hunterkiller submarines
50 Vanguard ballistic missile submarines
1,000 'David Seaman' class Goalkeeper platforms
200 'Michael Owen' class launches
100 'George Best' troop carriers
500 'Paul Simon' mobility ships

The "David Seaman" is essentially an unmanned Goalkeeper on an automated pontoon. They can lower 'subnets' (nets with weights on, that cause the David Seaman to sink under the weight of a torpedo rather than the actual manned ships behind it). Their main disadvantage is that in order to keep the pontoons light, they have to be reloaded physically by crewmen in the 'Michael Owen' launches: so under massive heavy barrage, they eventually break down.

500 Mig-39 advances
500 Su-37 advances
50 C-170 Hercules
200 CH47-D Chinooks
10 CH54 Skycrane

The above aircraft are actually on a base in Santa Barbaran lands, but within easy range of Resi island.

250,000 infantry
20,000 artillerymen
2,500 Crusader artillery platforms
2,500 MLRS artillery platforms
20,000 Starstreak air-defence troops
5,000 Starstreak VABs
100 Sherwood Arrow batteries (anti-MLRBM)
5,000 Leclercs
15,000 VABs
5,000 Apache AH64-D Longbows
2,000 Comanche
5,000 Black Hawk
100,000 armoured personnel division
40,000 Specops (35,000 army, 5,000 Navy, 5,000 paratroops)

There we go. As a rule, although the things are directly ganked from modern tech they've been updated ('better' armour, more stored-kills per vehicle, planes way faster). The main advantage is they can co-ordinate the entire force via the ARES system, which allows auto-targeting, firepower splitting, and so on over a period of under a second.

The soldiers have a variety of smart-linked gun that allows ARES to aim their weapons at unperceived threats, and fire it too. Instead of massive mechanical things, it's a very elegant series of electrodes in the sleeves which exert currents causing the muscles to 'spasm' in position. On the positive side, this is very light and means that random people can't steal the smartlinks. On the negative side, if a trooper's smartlink is destroyed, he has to wait til he can get to a decent size supply depot before they can configure him a new one.

All troops are in full bodyarmour (with NBC protection).

200 Wisps
5 Inquisitors (Endless Regrets)
1 'Flying Fortress' (Murderous Tendencies)
10 Lords and Ladies (Hushed Breaths)

Wisps were used in the Knootoss war. They're pretty secret, generally, so research will need to be done about them by you if you need to know.
Inquisitors are like people. They have swords (with batteries, makes them look like lightning swords), and magic doesn't work on them or around them. They'll be travelling with the big units.
Lords and Ladies would be all-powerful ... apart from the fact they'll be with the Inquisitors, so have no power. They're like Irish folk-tale fae, with glamour and so on.

As for positions: the fiefdom forces are around Nai isle, Whispering Voices is around Unus/Jain isle (or at least, heading that way). Satellite scans have found nothing military on those two islands (including silos) according to you, and sonar and deep sonar drones have found no submarines around them.

I've not *actually* done anything with them apart from scans, tentative flyovers with AWACs. Vegana's hovercraft actually overtook my forces heading to Nai isle, so will get there first. Planes are scrambled, ready to intercept. Ship point defences (GRASER goodness) are ready to field assaults. The troop carriers are positioning to allow troop deployment.

Anyway, that was the OOC summary.

He's made TWO summaries for you already.Cool. Just link me to one of 'em.

Or, maybe you could find it in between all the posts you've decided to ignore for whatever reason or another you decide is good.

That's not detailed enough. Just like you want for dragons, detailed research please.But see, the thing is that we don't care enough about empathic research to see how they work. As far as we can tell, it has something to do with Chaotic movements and patterns.
No chemical formulas there. Just a description added today of something that makes no sense.Maybe that's because Rotan isn't a chemical. It makes perfect sense when you realize that.
You must have, since you interact with her and demand complete research on magic things you interact with.Ah, but Jai can't very well go up to her and ask for a DNA sample. :P
So wait until Kalessin says they're invincible to ignore them?Sounds good to me. Although he hasn't responded yet...

C) Pffft... so? It could've just been overcome by the Earth's gravity at that instant. Did I say that it fell directly towards Santa Barbara?
D) But you see, it doesn't have to have much of a heat sheild because the contents can handle heat. Albeit not the full heat of reentry, which is why there's a small heat sheild. As for loosing mass, who says it doesn't? Nanomachines aren't very big things, y'know.
E) So, with several million tons of space debris falling to Earth every year (more for NS Earth, due to its size and the number of space battles that take place), you really expect to have a system that fires at all of them? Again, Pfft! :roll:
F) If you push an object away from another object is space, the first object begins to move. That being said, no exaust trail is necessary if you're throwing matter away. Note the nanomachines are self-replicating.

c) That's what trajectory calculations are for. And yes, you did say that anyway.
High in orbit above Iesus Christi, HARU, and Santa Barbara, little baseball-sized objects that could easily be mistaken for space debris change their orbits around the blue globe known as Earth and instead plummet towards the surface of this sphere.
Plummet=to fall perpendicularly. Perpendicular means right angles. That implies not orbital 'falling' and 'slow' loss of altitude, but heading straight down.
d) It has no spare mass to lose.
e) Anything that appears deliberately guided?Fuck yes. Random chunks of rock don't head straight towards things.
f) Nanomachines cannot self-replicate from nothing. They cannot pull stuff out of vacuum and use it as space fuel. Either all the nanomachines are ejected - which would, over the period of thousands of years (they're pretty small, and there is no room in a baseball size device for firing them with any amount of exhaust velocity), leave an empty baseball shell hitting Santa Barbara - or they're not, and it stays still.
g) Everything has a chemical formula. Even if it's biological.

Have you personally ever researched the plausibility of anti-gravity?

The fact is, they are far more plausible than nano-machines that can create matter from nothing.Okay, then try Star Destroyers. They're DEFINATELY more plausabel than Star Destroyers.

Ever heard of cellular mytosys? The splitting of cells? If we make nanomachines out of protein, they are not only durable, but are self-replicating as long as they get enough of what we designate as their food.

He's made TWO summaries for you already.Cool. Just link me to one of 'em.

You, Sir, are the laziest retarded i`ve seen in a long time.

Search for it yourselve, reply, and perhaps people will think of you in another way than of being the fucking biggest retarded techwanker that has ever shown up in this forums.

Oh, and btw, you still didn`t call the damage i created with my bombings (DA here).

Ummm... So I do it for you, you obviously need help...

Resi city is in ashes, the coastal defences on the western part of your northern island (where Resi city is on) are ashes, and your air force was destroyed as well.

Have a nice day.

OOC:

Troop summary as requested for the Whispering Voices expeditionary force. There are two sets of what is detailed below, one Whispering Voices the other Hushed Breaths/Quiet Laughter/Murderous Tendencies/Endless Regrets [Whispering Voices could easily field another fifteen such expeditions if it chose, so instead of boosting numbers with those other forces their just going to be there to provide a different RP style angle if I choose]:

25 Selkie CVF carriers (these are about half the size of a Nimitz)
100 Redcap destroyers
100 Boggart frigates
100 Trafalgar Sunset hunterkiller submarines
50 Vanguard ballistic missile submarines
1,000 'David Seaman' class Goalkeeper platforms
200 'Michael Owen' class launches
100 'George Best' troop carriers
500 'Paul Simon' mobility ships

The "David Seaman" is essentially an unmanned Goalkeeper on an automated pontoon. They can lower 'subnets' (nets with weights on, that cause the David Seaman to sink under the weight of a torpedo rather than the actual manned ships behind it). Their main disadvantage is that in order to keep the pontoons light, they have to be reloaded physically by crewmen in the 'Michael Owen' launches: so under massive heavy barrage, they eventually break down.

500 Mig-39 advances
500 Su-37 advances
50 C-170 Hercules
200 CH47-D Chinooks
10 CH54 Skycrane

The above aircraft are actually on a base in Santa Barbaran lands, but within easy range of Resi island.

250,000 infantry
20,000 artillerymen
2,500 Crusader artillery platforms
2,500 MLRS artillery platforms
20,000 Starstreak air-defence troops
5,000 Starstreak VABs
100 Sherwood Arrow batteries (anti-MLRBM)
5,000 Leclercs
15,000 VABs
5,000 Apache AH64-D Longbows
2,000 Comanche
5,000 Black Hawk
100,000 armoured personnel division
40,000 Specops (35,000 army, 5,000 Navy, 5,000 paratroops)

There we go. As a rule, although the things are directly ganked from modern tech they've been updated ('better' armour, more stored-kills per vehicle, planes way faster). The main advantage is they can co-ordinate the entire force via the ARES system, which allows auto-targeting, firepower splitting, and so on over a period of under a second.

The soldiers have a variety of smart-linked gun that allows ARES to aim their weapons at unperceived threats, and fire it too. Instead of massive mechanical things, it's a very elegant series of electrodes in the sleeves which exert currents causing the muscles to 'spasm' in position. On the positive side, this is very light and means that random people can't steal the smartlinks. On the negative side, if a trooper's smartlink is destroyed, he has to wait til he can get to a decent size supply depot before they can configure him a new one.

All troops are in full bodyarmour (with NBC protection).

200 Wisps
5 Inquisitors (Endless Regrets)
1 'Flying Fortress' (Murderous Tendencies)
10 Lords and Ladies (Hushed Breaths)

Wisps were used in the Knootoss war. They're pretty secret, generally, so research will need to be done about them by you if you need to know.
Inquisitors are like people. They have swords (with batteries, makes them look like lightning swords), and magic doesn't work on them or around them. They'll be travelling with the big units.
Lords and Ladies would be all-powerful ... apart from the fact they'll be with the Inquisitors, so have no power. They're like Irish folk-tale fae, with glamour and so on.

As for positions: the fiefdom forces are around Nai isle, Whispering Voices is around Unus/Jain isle (or at least, heading that way). Satellite scans have found nothing military on those two islands (including silos) according to you, and sonar and deep sonar drones have found no submarines around them.

I've not *actually* done anything with them apart from scans, tentative flyovers with AWACs. Vegana's hovercraft actually overtook my forces heading to Nai isle, so will get there first. Planes are scrambled, ready to intercept. Ship point defences (GRASER goodness) are ready to field assaults. The troop carriers are positioning to allow troop deployment.

Anyway, that was the OOC summary.((OOC: Sorry, we missed this with all the OOCage flying around.))

Satellite scans have not detected nothing, but rather a high concentration of naval bases on Jain/Unus Isle. Many Abyss Submarines and several Atlantis can be seen heading out to sea, along with two carrier groups.

There are missile silos on the island, just very few of them.

I'm going to have to make a ruling I had hoped I didn't have to.

It's not to declare I'm going to hold Resi's side of the conflict, nor is it to say that I'm no longer needed. I have to declare Resi completly unable to roleplay a conflict with other players.

Resi is completly unable to allow anyone he fights against to have any sort of fun. He is interested only in making up technology that can not exist in reality, and then badgering others about the technology he uses on them.

He has shown no respect for anyone in this conflict, he has on several occasions insulted other's hard work, not even bothering to read it, then demanding it be written shorthand so he doesn't have to spend more than a few minutes reading it.

Resi is a selfish player, he has no interest in anyone's fun but his own and it shows. He does not want to be held accountable for what he does, nor does he want to put in the effort of having a playing field that even approaches fair. He has to invent reasons to hurt others more than he himself is hurt.

I have no doubt that if this conflict continues, that no number of nations, nor level of technology would be allowed to beat him, he will one by one nitpick nations out of the conflict, untill he can claim that it's someone else's fault that this thread has failed.

This is not true, this plot is a failure, and the responsibility lays with Resi. Iesus has left the conflict solely because he feels that being involved is a waste of time, he has told me, "he(Resi) already has, gone totally ape. his entire idea makes no sense, has a godmode tech level, godmode army and doesnt except any attacks on him" and I agree with him.

Resi, I hope some day you realize that roleplaying isn't about making sure you win, but making sure everyone has fun, and you have done everything you could to make sure nobody had fun but you. I've been told by several people it's hopeless to continue my involvement in this thread, an involvement that was set up to allow you to continue to have control of your nation, instead of having the entire other side declare your losses for you.

It's sad, but it appears they are right, there is no reason to continue trying to help you. On behalf of those who no longer wish to have anything to do with you, your existance is ignored. This means that in the interest of better roleplaying, and the avoidance of further conflict between players, I will be informing those who buy technology from you that you do not exist to several of the best roleplaying nations in this game, and that anything they buy from you, will likely be ignored by any decent roleplayer they might want to play with.

If someday you get your act together and prove that you no longer deserve to be treated this way, I will retract the warning, but I honestly doubt that day will come.

Goodbye Resi.

You, Sir, are the laziest retarded i`ve seen in a long time.

Search for it yourselve, reply, and perhaps people will think of you in another way than of being the f--- biggest retarded techwanker that has ever shown up in this forums.

Oh, and btw, you still didn`t call the damage i created with my bombings (DA here).

Ummm... So I do it for you, you obviously need help...

Resi city is in ashes, the coastal defences on the western part of your northern island (where Resi city is on) are ashes, and your air force was destroyed as well.

Have a nice day.DA? Who's DA?

http://www.angelfire.com/ns2/corporateislands/ignored.gif

DA? Who's DA?

Just a little nation known as Der Angst. Ring a bell?

I'm going to have to make a ruling I had hoped I didn't have to.

It's not to declare I'm going to hold Resi's side of the conflict, nor is it to say that I'm no longer needed. I have to declare Resi completly unable to roleplay a conflict with other players.

Resi is completly unable to allow anyone he fights against to have any sort of fun. He is interested only in making up technology that can not exist in reality, and then badgering others about the technology he uses on them.

He has shown no respect for anyone in this conflict, he has on several occasions insulted other's hard work, not even bothering to read it, then demanding it be written shorthand so he doesn't have to spend more than a few minutes reading it.

Resi is a selfish player, he has no interest in anyone's fun but his own and it shows. He does not want to be held accountable for what he does, nor does he want to put in the effort of having a playing field that even approaches fair. He has to invent reasons to hurt others more than he himself is hurt.

I have no doubt that if this conflict continues, that no number of nations, nor level of technology would be allowed to beat him, he will one by one nitpick nations out of the conflict, untill he can claim that it's someone else's fault that this thread has failed.

This is not true, this plot is a failure, and the responsibility lays with Resi. Iesus has left the conflict solely because he feels that being involved is a waste of time, he has told me, "he(Resi) already has, gone totally ape. his entire idea makes no sense, has a godmode tech level, godmode army and doesnt except any attacks on him" and I agree with him.

Resi, I hope some day you realize that roleplaying isn't about making sure you win, but making sure everyone has fun, and you have done everything you could to make sure nobody had fun but you. I've been told several it's hopeless to continue my involvement in this thread, an involvement that was set up to allow you to continue to have control of your nation, instead of having the entire other side declare your losses for you.

It's sad, but it appears they are right, there is no reason to continue trying to help you. On behalf of those who no longer wish to have anything to do with you, your existance is ignored. This means that in the interest of better roleplaying, and the avoidance of further conflict between players, I will be informing those who buy technology from you that you do not exist to several of the best roleplaying nations in this game, and that anything they buy from you, will likely be ignored by any decent roleplayer they might want to play with.

If someday you get your act together and prove that you no longer deserve to be treated this way, I will retract the warning, but I honestly doubt that day will come.

Goodbye Resi.That's too bad. Maybe now we can say goodbye to 50% of the OOCage in this thread. War RPing isn't my forte (as y'all have probably gathered), but I still do it when it's necessary. I only nitpick because you nitpick, and you only nitpick because you find "flaws" in my technology. If they are indeed proven flaws, then I'll remove them. However, doing things like using a high-powered laser to shoot down a baseball-sized object is a bit much in any case, as is watching anything of that size closely.

That said, I really resent your accusations of me making stuff up to cover for me. I honestly have done nothing of the sort.

And now that this RP has been officially f***ed over, who's up for throwing this out and starting over on Monday? I'll probably be clear all that week.

<<Vthnaar, check tgs.>>

Just a little nation known as Der Angst. Ring a bell?Okay, he could've just said that.

There are a couple of DA's, and there's a ton of people against me. You can't expect me to remember everyone by their abbriviations.

Just a little nation known as Der Angst. Ring a bell?Okay, he could've just said that.

There are a couple of DA's, and there's a ton of people against me. You can't expect me to remember everyone by their abbriviations.

Oh, of course not. It's just one of the more common national abbreviations on NS.

That's too bad. Maybe now we can say goodbye to 50% of the OOCage in this thread. War RPing isn't my forte (as y'all have probably gathered), but I still do it when it's necessary. I only nitpick because you nitpick, and you only nitpick because you find "flaws" in my technology. If they are indeed proven flaws, then I'll remove them. However, doing things like using a high-powered laser to shoot down a baseball-sized object is a bit much in any case, as is watching anything of that size closely.

That said, I really resent your accusations of me making stuff up to cover for me. I honestly have done nothing of the sort.

And now that this RP has been officially f***ed over, who's up for throwing this out and starting over on Monday? I'll probably be clear all that week.

The level of denial and self-delusion in this response is about what I've come to expect from you, Resi. To try and pass blame off for your actions thus far only shows how right those whom have ignored you are.

You don't seem to understand, just about all of those fighting against you have given up and left, tired of trying to get you to show them one shred of respect. You have nobody left to fight. You are alone.

You fucked over this thread, nobody else. I don't see why anyone would give you a second chance. I also find it remarkable that you didn't even try to defend the fact that you have so little respect for those involved, that you didn't read any of their posts.

Oh, of course not. It's just one of the more common national abbreviations on NS.I'm sorry, I just don't RP with Der Angst all that much. Evidently you do, so there's no need to get pissed over it.

I'm off to bed. Seriously though, what say we chalk this up to experience and start again on Monday, when I'll have time for this?

You f--- over this thread, nobody else. I don't see why anyone would give you a second chance. I also find it remarkable that you didn't even try to defend the fact that you have so little respect for those involved, that you didn't bother to deny that you didn't read any of their posts.The reason that I don't try and defend that fact is because I have no respect for people like you, who claim to quit a thread because it sucks and yet stay and continue to bash a legitimate attempt to revive a good RP.

And with this, I'm actually off to bed.

Oh, of course not. It's just one of the more common national abbreviations on NS.I'm sorry, I just don't RP with Der Angst all that much. Evidently you do, so there's no need to get pissed over it.

I'm off to bed. Seriously though, what say we chalk this up to experience and start again on Monday, when I'll have time for this?

I'm sorry, but I'm just not up for this level of ridiculousness again (and you haven't addressed the points I made above regarding why a GRASER (not laser) would target a baseball object that suddenly headed straight towards something said GRASER satellite was defending).

I agreed to go with Vthnaar at the start, and I think I'm going to now, and simply assume I took the two isles that I went for, and that the Resi corporation heads escaped because they were in whatever other threads.

You f--- over this thread, nobody else. I don't see why anyone would give you a second chance. I also find it remarkable that you didn't even try to defend the fact that you have so little respect for those involved, that you didn't bother to deny that you didn't read any of their posts.The reason that I don't try and defend that fact is because I have no respect for people like you, who claim to quit a thread because it sucks and yet stay and continue to bash a legitimate attempt to revive a good RP.

And with this, I'm actually off to bed.

You've got to be kidding me. Are you so out of excuses for your horrible behavior that you have to resort to that limp wristed reply?

Continued here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=79964)

So wait until Kalessin says they're invincible to ignore them?Sounds good to me. Although he hasn't responded yet...

OOC:

*Points casually towards the casualties suffered in wars against Lavenrunz and the Territory.*

Dragons are tough...but not invincible by any means.

You know actually this was six and two threes.

Everyone was already anoyed at RESi and shouting insults at him when he could not post for not posting, then he didn't help matters however I would say start again for Feths sake.

One I will ignore any attempt WV to claim RESI is defeated and that you are colonising his land, unless this war is fought. Why because you might not actually defeat him something unexpected might occur, two from the start I'd recommend PATIENCE.

This RP was doomed the moment many of the anti-RESI people started demanding he post, and saying if he dosn't we will make the decision for him. The only argument you had was at one point he was online after several pages of POST RESI POST NOW. Or Well so what if he hasn't posted I will move onto stage three four and five, When he is on, explaining I don't have long so tell me what has happened I'll respond none of you but Roania told him anything, he roleplayed Roanias bit and as he said left... WHY because he had no time as he states.

Either everyone take a deep breath and start over or forget this mess either way your all to blame.

Snip tired old arguments.

I suggest you look at Vthnaar's post, and actually read it this time.

Resi has had plenty of opportunity to post, and displayed very selective attention. Really, everything that addresses your points is in Vthnaar's post - you just need to read it.

Actually WV I did read it and find it wrong. Vthanner in my view is ruling on RESI's actions after everyone here lost there temper. You included, EVRYONE here has been hounding RESI since about oh page 5 if not previosuly.

So what if he makes mistakes, SO FETHING what no one here has been any better at all. You demand he accept Kals Dragons, I'm sorry he dosn'ty have too, he can ignore any thing at all as long as he is consistent, if he decides Dragons are not for him he can ignore them as long as he ignores all Dragons. Thats his right...

If he can't post for Personal reasons He can't post demanidng for PAGES of waste he post and threatening him will not then make him come back in a co-operative mood....

he has been acting in the last 5 Pages the same way you all treated him in the first ten and since then. Simply put you are all to blame and Vth's Judgement needs to go back and look at how he was treated in the begining, when everyone assumed he had run away and wasn't responding, side stepped his defences and threatened to decleare his losses...

I can remember many Pages of OOC comment aimed at RESI when he had hadn't even been online saying POST LOSSES including one threat of you have one hour to declere losses or make them for you, WHEN HE WAS NOT ONLINE.

In fact there where 64 Posts before RESI had posted once and his first Post was I don't have a lot of time and I'd like to point out that at this point RESI hadn't even posted once, which could have ment anything but likely ment he had not seen the thread, and he was already being OOC attacked. Yes thats right he hasn't said a word and is being accused of God-Modding and ignoring the war for no reason. Hardly a great start for a roleplay.

OOC: Why is it all the roleplaying in this war happens when I give up and go to bed? Granted, I go to bed early. I have grandpa lifestyle right now. Go to bed at like 9, wake up at 5 or 6, eat dinner at 4 in the afternoon...

Some things. Speaking for my part of the DAMOCLES weapons, which I've already stated as having been fully alerted, not to mention my own ships and orbital defenses, they do indeed target space debris. This is because space debris has a very bad effect when being struck by, say, a ship moving at a few kilometers per second. Same with anything headed for SB and not authorized to do so. I'm a paranoid, heavily militarized corporate dictator and in my mind, even the real random space debris is a threat to national security. And of course that goes doubly for ones that are changing their course at will and moving towards my stuff. I mean I haven't had a war at all for years and years-- what do you think we do to keep entertained? Shoot space debris! Lasers, grasers, either one.

With that in mind, with the sheer volume, variety and power of my sensing technology, described in my last IC post here-- 254th in the world for information tech, also-- its unlikely that we're not going to be tracking or detecting anything we possibly can.

(Another thing, probably a nitpick in this war-- I have used no ortillery. I think Resi's post stated I had and, actually, all I've done is launched ground/air missiles from the ground/air. Although, a lot of missiles. But DA did use ortillery. Just a minor thing though- either way it doesnt look like Resi Island is the safest place in the world right now. (Apparently, Liechtenstein is.))

As for 'restarting' the RP well... I've already posted my 4000 word betrayal and I don't feel like posting that or something completely different again, only to see how its magically countered because everyone knows its coming OOCly this time. I'm for continuation... despite the OOC crap on this thread there doesnt seem to be any huge major block to continuity of story or anything.

WV, Vthnaar, I'm not sure declaring victory for something like lack of respect is a swell idea. The colonization (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=79964) can begin, but I think we ought to allow Resi resistance in the areas he still occupies (that is, the areas no one currently has occupied) because dammit I still think there's a war here somewhere!

My next IC post will be there mainly because its a much ah, cleaner thread (so far. Please keep it that way. Major OOCness should go elsewhere, like here!)

I'm with the IGNOREs here. Bye Resi. It was fun until about the 4th/5th page.
Good Luck.

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I'll summarise, once more:
Resi has been on, and engaged in other activities not related to the war. He has been given plenty of time to react to things, and done so in a minimalistic manner. Requested summaries were ignored by him, he's made insane accusations of godmodding and then not answered the counterarguments, he's threatened to ignore people for doing far less than he himself does.

What it comes down to, Tor Yvresse, is that Resi has done his best to drive people away by OOC footdragging/arguments/complaints/bitching. Please note this is the first situation in which I haven't ended up with Resi in a flaming contest, so don't even try to claim I've been trying to goad him.

Resi had his chance to fight back, plenty of it. He had his chance to play along, too. He spent his 'valuable time' accusing other people of godmodding for things far less than he had done, and has made almost no effort to respond IC whilst he's continued to post in every other thread he's in.

This fight was a continuation of previously-acknowledged other threads, that Resi was in and aware of. Your last point, Tor Yvresse, is therefore incorrect.

Your point about him ignoring anything if he's consistent, Tor Yvresse, has been disproved about five times - including by his own IC wife, and is therefore incorrect.

Some people, it is true, were impatient with Resi when he posted in everything except this thread. So he was online, just not here.

I'm not going to continue this fruitless discussion. If you wish to continue ignoring facts and totally disregarding what other people have posted, go ahead.

I'm going to say that this whole thing reminds me of something that has happened to me on several occasions when a$$holes attacked me for no real reason. I'm believe that Resi has the right to IGNORE this whole mess.

OOC: I haven't head a peep outta Resi for a good few days, and he hasn't returned my telegrams...

OOC: I haven't head a peep outta Resi for a good few days, and he hasn't returned my telegrams...

If you go to the page just before this one (page 21, my friend) you will see Resi posted yesterday.

Link to make it easier (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=78526&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=414)

((I suggest someone get Vthnaar a pacifier and send him to bed early... he's not a part of the war? Oh! well then why is he posting then! he was asked to GM?! BY WHO?! not me.. I've never even heard of him. And with each post he makes I get more and more pissed off.... :x Obviously he's causeing more problems then helping.

Resi has had nanos and wierd futuristic stuff since gawd knows when. No one had any real problems with it untill now. I really hate it when people pull this stuff.

He's a good RPer, but bad with war. So am I. I wouldn't have the slightest clue what to do if someone attacked me though. When I was annexed by Melkor way back, I had everyone else do my fighting for me because I didn't even know where to start. Since then Eris Kallisti has been secretly makeing deals and building up their millitary. ICly the Kallistian millitary is rather good, and knows what their doing... OOCly? I wouldn't know the differance between fighter jet guns to save my life. I joined this game to play a diplomatic nation, but that's damn near impossible to do when all you people care about are the size of their guns (yes, that's a euphemism for "whipin' it out and measuring it"). I've come to the conclusion that diplomatic nations can't be played with the amount of warmongers on this site, because they won't even consider talking about things. Please... lets start this over.

I'm ignoring the "Colonisation" of Resi.... seriously. You want a war RP? ok... fine... but you guys gotta realize that not all of us are millitary experts and we're having a hard time keeping up on what exactly is going on. Not to mention again that some TGs never seemed to be recived.

*throws up hands* honestly I have no solutions on what to do about this other then agreeing that we should have a restart of some kind. There were some things that should have happened early on in this war and they didn't because TGs didn't get through, etc, etc.... lets fix this.

I'm a table top player... with something like this its hard to visualize exactly what's going on, and where people are, even with a map. This is also free form RP and that makes things even harder to follow. Though I don't like the idea of a GM unless the main people involve both agree on the person to do it.

I don't want to ignore people... and I hate it when the ignore cannon is flung around like crazy.... but this is getting outright dumb. Once again, I say this all be forgotten and we move on or we do a restart. Anyone wanna talk about this? I'm on AIM, MSN, and ICQ... TG me with the ones you use and I'll give ya my screen names))

OOC: I know how you feel Eris, for some reason these powermongers feel that they have the right to invade anyone they want without the consent of the OOC Player behind the nation, it's why I gave up on Mishakal, too many people were screaming at me, demanding that I Rp to their rules which involved me losing (and destroying) everything I worked hard to create for that nation so I just gave the nation to someone else and chose to make new nations in which to play.

War RP's (I believe and play as) can only happen when BOTH Parties plan and agree to the wars. With the OMNIUS attempt at takeover in Kecha, she asked me NOT to destroy her government as she loved her creation and I respected that. Too bad very few people here are capable of that.

OOC: Consider that we are all in OOC communication now.

I'm all about keeping roleplaying opportunities open. Resi got invaded by Melkor before too, it didn't mean the actual "destruction" of anything he created. Same here. No one claims to have Jae Resi strapped to a chair with his nuts in a vice. As far as I know Resi still has defending troops (btw, just because its called the Colonization thread doesn't mean there can't be opposition). So there's plenty of time to lay down (attn Resi!) what you'll be wanting to RP in the future, since it does look as if Resi Corp is gonna be invaded.

As for "no real reason," I'm getting sick of hearing about that. What would WWII Poland or Holland say about getting invaded for no real reason out of the blue? SHIT HAPPENS! In this case, plenty of IC reasons have been given. ICly, Resi is still in the moral right. But that doesn't mean that the attacks dont happen just because they're perpetrated by a bunch of greedy opportunistic militarized nations.

We can ortillery and invade Resi island til the cows come home, but he's still going to have characters to roleplay. He's still gonna have a NS on NS, and hopefully he'll continue to RP that. It's just going to have to be changed a little bit from how its been taking into account the massive invasion.

Here is a monkey wrench into your logic, Resi isn't HERE so HOW can he respond, also this ISN'T the real world so we can use etiquette here.

OOC: Im back but only becuase I saw the "colonization of Resi thread" and then I saw the talk about Nanomachines, dont expect me to stay long im just making my peace.

First of all Nano machines do not "create matter from nothing in order to recreate" from what I've read (i'll admit I havent researched this indepth) Nanomachines take molecucules (specifically Carbon) from the Items they are disassembling inorder to create more machines on a scale of 1 to 5 (5 disassembling, 1 assembling new nanomachines) which grow exponentionally from the original small amount... also they usually all have some form of a chemical clock that provides energy as long a certain chemical compound inside them hasnt decayed to a point where it dosent exist, and that the ones created are set at the same times that their "parents" were at (so that they all die at the same time and dont move off to destroy the wolrd like a black viscous neverending Necrosis)

Secondly Vthnaar you have been a biased and uneducated judge of this situation from the start only helping to enflame and exacerbate the OOCage and increase the amount of Flamebait in this thread to the point where it is mostly mindless drivel. Now Im not saying you are Totally to blame... on the contrary we all helped in our own lil "special" way... hell I'll even put some of the blame on myself even though Ive only put 5 posts in this thread, But you have not helped this thread at all. If you intended to be a Ref. or GM you have lost my faith inyour ability to be unbiased or to even go a few posts without inciting others to anger or disqust. In all honsety I agree that this thread should be started over or totally ignored as it been shown that BOTH sides cant play well together. Iesu Christi's cries of godmod and Ubertech Wanking are groundless as anyone who has had ANY connection or discussion with Resi knows that he is a far future nation... he knew what he was getting into plain and simple...

allright well im done I just had to vent....

((I agree Santa Barbara, but people don't seem to want him to have anything in the end, and no matter what he does, or how he responds, he'll get smacked down at the end of all this. This is the problem with free form RPing. -everyone- has "the best"......

How I've always done things (at least with character RP) is that I've talked to people OOCly ahead of time, and we'd agree who would win, lose, or if it'd be a tie of some kind. Now I know this is hard to do on a larger scale like this, but maybe something along those lines should be done.

a number of my TGs that Resi never got were to help him insure that even if he were defeated were... well... never recived. I -don't- want to post things publicly, because I'm sure someone will have "uncoded" or "happen to notice" things they shouldn't. metagaming is such a pain in the ass that way. Unfortunately since his TG box has been obviously overflowing, he never got my messages, and now my end of the RP has gotten screwed. I may be showing millitary force in the war, but fighting is not what my people are really there for. Not that they won't, they've just got other things they're trying to accomplish. ((THATS ALL OOC KNOWLEDGE THANKYOUVERYMUCH))

anyway... if not a restart... how about a bit of a rewind? I see lots of people saying "my troops are fireing on the cities" and whatnot, but who's defending? we -had- a bunch of defenders... where'd they all go? I'm still here, but I can't tell where people are or what they're doing exactly. Once I figure things out better I'll respond to things. I'm sorry, but if people get to close to the shore, my subs are gonna surface and start fireing... but people don't say "I'm approaching the shore" they say "I'm on the land! lookit me! here I go blowing things up and running around with no one aganst me!" no no no... you can't do that...

Maybe I've missed something... but I've read posts and haven't seen anywhere I can bump in to attempt to push back attackers. Maybe we should work on making things a bit more clear or something.))

((I agree Santa Barbara, but people don't seem to want him to have anything in the end, and no matter what he does, or how he responds, he'll get smacked down at the end of all this. This is the problem with free form RPing. -everyone- has "the best"......

How I've always done things (at least with character RP) is that I've talked to people OOCly ahead of time, and we'd agree who would win, lose, or if it'd be a tie of some kind. Now I know this is hard to do on a larger scale like this, but maybe something along those lines should be done.

a number of my TGs that Resi never got were to help him insure that even if he were defeated were... well... never recived. I -don't- want to post things publicly, because I'm sure someone will have "uncoded" or "happen to notice" things they shouldn't. metagaming is such a pain in the ass that way. Unfortunately since his TG box has been obviously overflowing, he never got my messages, and now my end of the RP has gotten screwed. I may be showing millitary force in the war, but fighting is not what my people are really there for. Not that they won't, they've just got other things they're trying to accomplish. ((THATS ALL OOC KNOWLEDGE THANKYOUVERYMUCH))

anyway... if not a restart... how about a bit of a rewind? I see lots of people saying "my troops are fireing on the cities" and whatnot, but who's defending? we -had- a bunch of defenders... where'd they all go? I'm still here, but I can't tell where people are or what they're doing exactly. Once I figure things out better I'll respond to things. I'm sorry, but if people get to close to the shore, my subs are gonna surface and start fireing... but people don't say "I'm approaching the shore" they say "I'm on the land! lookit me! here I go blowing things up and running around with no one aganst me!" no no no... you can't do that...

Maybe I've missed something... but I've read posts and haven't seen anywhere I can bump in to attempt to push back attackers. Maybe we should work on making things a bit more clear or something.))

OOC: This has become a large enough thread that perhaps you should have the assistance of one of the gaming coordinators?
And who is on defense? I think Eris has more allies than Resi....

First of all Nano machines do not "create matter from nothing in order to recreate" ...

Iesu Christi's cries of godmod and Ubertech Wanking are groundless as anyone who has had ANY connection or discussion with Resi knows that he is a far future nation... he knew what he was getting into plain and simple...

This is giving out mixed messages. You're saying Resi's tech is impossible and godmoddy, and yet saying Iesus is wrong for complaining that Resi's tech is impossible and godmoddy.

Huh?

I dont think we need a rewind. Just clear some things up, here's a summary of the attacks:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=79657&highlight=

And in the "colonization" thread I'm hoping the RP can continue. Its true that some powers wanna just wipe everything Resi the PLAYER has out, but thats not ICly my goal. ICly, I wanna profit from it, and I'm not out on some genocide mission. Anyone who is, well I say thats already an extra character conflict in what some people thought was a lopsided RP- its not-- theres all these big powers, and they all want a piece of the pie, and who knows how MUCH they do, and what will happen? I don't! Not to mention Resi's allies-- ICly I've told them to stand down or risk coming under attack. So if they're still resisting/defending they should and can RP it out there too, and even if they're not resisting they should too.

(WV, might wanna rename colonization thread and make it more charitable like the Continued Invasion of Resi. Allow some fighting to go on, I didnt want the war to just end without the major players, including Resi's, consent.. makes for an inconsistent multiverse.)

You know actually this was six and two threes.

Everyone was already anoyed at RESi and shouting insults at him when he could not post for not posting, then he didn't help matters however I would say start again for Feths sake.

One I will ignore any attempt WV to claim RESI is defeated and that you are colonising his land, unless this war is fought. Why because you might not actually defeat him something unexpected might occur, two from the start I'd recommend PATIENCE.

This RP was doomed the moment many of the anti-RESI people started demanding he post, and saying if he dosn't we will make the decision for him. The only argument you had was at one point he was online after several pages of POST RESI POST NOW. Or Well so what if he hasn't posted I will move onto stage three four and five, When he is on, explaining I don't have long so tell me what has happened I'll respond none of you but Roania told him anything, he roleplayed Roanias bit and as he said left... WHY because he had no time as he states.

Either everyone take a deep breath and start over or forget this mess either way your all to blame.Thank you, TY.

As for why I didn't RP my losses when I got on, it's kind of hard to RP losses when everyone suddenly starts yelling at you for various points, all of which they will pester you with until you defend yourself. See Vthnaar's demands of me in his posts, if you doubt this.

As for the character RP, I'd rather like to have gotten Sara out of the situation she was in first, as otherwise she would've been captured by Roanians. Read the posts.

First of all Nano machines do not "create matter from nothing in order to recreate" ...

Iesu Christi's cries of godmod and Ubertech Wanking are groundless as anyone who has had ANY connection or discussion with Resi knows that he is a far future nation... he knew what he was getting into plain and simple...

This is giving out mixed messages. You're saying Resi's tech is impossible and godmoddy, and yet saying Iesus is wrong for complaining that Resi's tech is impossible and godmoddy.

Huh?no I did not say that Resi's tech was impossible or godmoddy, someone said that they recreated from nothing I was simply clarifying what I know of nanotechnology research (which I'll admit isnt very much). and why I said Iesu shouldnt complain is he Knew what time period Resi plays and he Knew (or should have) known what tech he uses on a regular basis... If Iesu had a problem with that he should have ignored him to begin with and not attacked, but as he accepts Resi's nation and the things Resi uses are very much engrained into his RP Iesu is just complaining for his own satisfaction.

-EDIT for Nanotech clarification-
what I meant to say is Yes it is possible for a Baseball size object to strike and begin replicating itself as long as the things it was disassembling contined useable material such as silica and carbon... the rest would be wasted but as those two elements are extremely prevalent they would continue to reproduce, so a limited amount of nano bots could build more eponentionally(sp?) untill a city or target area was destroyed and their clock died on them.

OOC: While I don't care for Resi ICly, I've been OOCly tempted to jump in just because of the shit I've seen here.

It should have stopped well short of page 5 until Resi at least had the chance to respond ICly. Instead everyone pissed and moaned and made mass movements of fleets and troops, all the while Resi's own nation hung in suspended animation because of RL constraints. It turned into a fucking gang-bang before Resi's player posted IC. Bad form, people. I've lost alot of respect for some of you because of this little catastrophe, and it makes me sad. I think Resi has every right to ignore the fuck out of this war, if only for the attacking sides demeanor throughout the whole disaster. If not for thier griping, then for the attempt to put movements on his nation.

It's bad form to RP someone elses nation, regardless of the circumstances.

I don't have 2 cents so that'll hve to do. Enjoy.

((OOC: *sends Pantera a basket of kittens* thank you, thank you! exactly what I was attempting to say))

OOC: Ditto Pantera.

IC: With the withdrawal of Iesus fleets from the Resi Campaign, let it also be known that Reich troops had withdrawn a while ago. The Reich has no quarrel with Resi. The reason for this conflict seemed to be an action taken by Iesus Christi which many within the Triune Kingdom, including myself, view as a particularly rash and uneccesary one.

I wish you the best with defending your nation against this onslaught but I can provide no help. I do have your back in a way though. I am rooting out Communism the greatest enemy of Capitalists everywhere. God Speed.

His Royal Highness,
Will Thompson II
Fuhrer of the Reich

OOC:

I have been less than impressed by Resi's refusal to read people's carefully written posts, and by his fairly poor replies, not to mention his hypocrisy in ignoring things such as my Dragons.

However, I am even less impressed by those people who criticise him for failing to post within their deadlines. He did not choose to do this RP, he merely agreed to participate due to our wish to invade him. As such, I think that we should do him the courtesy of going at his pace. In addition, anyone who somehow believes that NS is important enough to get angry about is suffering from a serious lack of perspective. Resi obviously has RL committments which are far more pressing than this game, and these must take priority. As long as it is 100% clear that Resi intends to continue this thread when he has the time, then there should be no posting of casualties by other nations, or any other such actions.

ooc: having wasted 30 minutes reading this thread only to find out resi is a idiot , i am sad to say 500,000 troops from Northstar will not be joining the crusade because like 99% of the reich, I now ignore you too.

OOC: Alright. Someone summarize just what the situation is. Is this fight still going on? Is Resi ignoring it? What is happening? I would TM him but lord knows hes gotten lots because of this. I won't make any posts on anything until I know what is up.

OOC: Alright. Someone summarize just what the situation is. Is this fight still going on? Is Resi ignoring it? What is happening? I would TM him but lord knows hes gotten lots because of this. I won't make any posts on anything until I know what is up.((OOC: I'm not ignoring the fight, just waiting till Monday to start it over.

Congrats, North, your first post on the subject is a flame. I got to wonder if your other 40-odd posts contain the same style of content.))

Resi check your tele!

OOC: that rhymes w00t! :lol:

OOC: I'm not ignoring the fight, just waiting till Monday to start it over.
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OOC: I have not been involved in this and don't think I want to. That said, I think Resi is right in this. The only way to salvage this RP is to start over again.

I suggest an ALL IC thread in the NSII forums and an ALL OOC thread in the NS forums. Rules could be simple.

1: No OOC commentary in the IC thread except for combat summaries (which should be required).
2: No IC commentary or flames in the OOC thread.
3: Resi is being invaded, so Resi can choose who to ignore, but as a future-tech nation must accept everything of non-ignored nations.
4: Resi is being invaded, so invading nations must accept all of Resi's tech, unless they ignore Resi entirely (and therefore are no longer invading).

Any break of these rules should be ignored.
Continuous breaking of these rules should result in ignoring the violator.


As there are people on both sides of this debate that I respect, and because I think this RP is salvagable only if it starts over correctly, I hope this plan is accepted and utilized.

-The Player behind Wazzu

OOC: I think, and kinda hope so that I haven't wasted a whole lot of time and thought, that the war is starting over, with some conditions. Basically, I didnt want to throw away this entire RP, but its also gotten messed up that it needs to be done right. As posted here, http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=79964&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

I have a list of conditions to make the thing happen right. Basically, to preserve as much continuity as possible and actually, you know, get a war going:

1. The Reich has to be involved. Im not too sure whats going on with the Reichs players, but if they all decide the Reich will not, after all, get involved, then that pretty much kills the whole damn plotline. ChristiCorp at the very least should be, so the thing is still consistent, but preferably the ones who sent forces too, since they're all part of my IC plan.

2. The order of things should ROUGHLY be considered to already happened - I will just be posting my posts that I made for the below, and I suggest everyone else who can just do the same.

A. a Reich mobilization, Resi and allies mobilization.
B. Devils Desert, Menelmacar, EOTED mobilization.
C. A Reich attack at the same time as PCC betrayal attack.
D. Melkor's, DA's, allies begin mobilization.

Anyone who gets (or got) involved after D. should wait for Resi's response to bring everything up to date before posting.

Because thats the way it was agreed upon, OOCly, that it would happen. The key thing that *I* wanna make clear is that anyone who *planned* this out-- the Reich, Devils Desert and Menelmacar-- gets the first 'moves' so to speak. Everyone else is reacting belatedly to their allies calls. (EOTED is an exception since they aren't mobilizing a lot of ground troops, and its pretty quick to just power up a gravfleet. Some others may be like this too. Melkor is a bit of a wild card since he is going through some RL issues now too, so he may have to be squeezed in later if he still wants to be involved. This is OK since ICly, Melkor is allied with the Reich and likely would be part of this.)

3. Space tech yes, impossible tech no. There are a lot of people involved who know a great deal of physics and science and we should all look to them for some help on anything needs clearing up.

4. Semi-invite. I dont want to be elitist by restricting nations that Im not aware of from RPing, on the other hand I dont want a bunch of random people jumping in constantly. So I'd say, limit to the mentioned nations and their allies. Anyone else is going to have to extensively RP their arrival on the scene, particularly if they're making an enemy of the superpowers involved in this war.

5. OOC discussion to be kept to a minimum on the new thread. Any big arguments should be on a separate thread. No 1-line RPing or lameness in general.

6. No use of OOC knowledge to make gains for oneself ICly. Goes for everyone.

7. If you already made a response/attack, keep it the same or at least as same as possible to what it is.

These last five are common sense really. Shoulda been like that for the other thread(s).

Is all that acceptable?

The major players in this should agree about this sorta thing before proceeding. I know Resi and Eris Kallisti are for it, and I'm gonna trust them to not take advantage of the extra time given OOC to alter things IC so that they fare better, same for the rest of us.

(Also, I'm going to ask that people not get ignore-happy and try to work things out calmly. I think we have the brains to be able to tell what is and what isn't real, as far as tech goes, as long as people are willing to admit to being wrong if they are, and take into account information from informed sources like reasonable people do.)

Thank you Santa Barbara! I have been watching this thread ever since I ended official involvement, and although I know some people involved I must say that this has been one of the most disgraceful RPs I have seen in a long, long time. Perhaps it could have been good if the number of involved nations had been limited from the start (much as SB is doing now), but as it is I have trouble believing how badly this whole thing has been done. Part of the problem, of course, is that NO ONE WANTS TO READ THROUGH 23 PAGES TO FIND OUT WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON! A new thread, and one without all the off-topic posts and random flaming I see all over this one, could actually make this enjoyable again. However, if the new thread is as borderline-godmodish as this one has been, it probably won't be any better. The tech rules SB set down will keep that from happening. Although I support Resi in this war, I applaud SB for his good thinking. Keep up the good work!

OOC: Iesus won't be in it, but if it is that Important, AG Hammer will be assumed there and I will lead the first assault. It was a pretty bad first move anyways I would have done it differantly lol. Deal.

OOC: Iesus won't be in it, but if it is that Important, AG Hammer will be assumed there and I will lead the first assault. It was a pretty bad first move anyways I would have done it differantly lol. Deal.((OOC: Well, Iesus not being in this sort of defeats the purpose of the war... :(

Could you, as a member of the Reich, try and persuade him to join again? We really don't have a war RP without the instigator of all this.))

I just want to point out, before I stop trying completly, that if those involved had waited for resi to post after page five, they would still be waiting.

I just want to point out, before I stop trying completly, that if those involved had waited for resi to post after page five, they would still be waiting.I just want to point out, before I stop trying completely, that sense then you have been of no help to anyone on this thread, constantly littering it with OOC prattle.

I just want to point out, before I stop trying completly, that if those involved had waited for resi to post after page five, they would still be waiting.I just want to point out, before I stop trying completely, that sense then you have been of no help to anyone on this thread, constantly littering it with OOC prattle.

Well, considering it was completly devoid of an IC roleplaying from you, except to your allies, it had to be filled with SOMETHING, didn't it?

I only read half of your post, do you think you could summarize the rest? My girlfriend needs emotional support.

Well, considering it was completly devoid of an IC roleplaying from you, except to your allies, it had to be filled with SOMETHING, didn't it?

I only read half of your post, do you think you could summarize the rest? My girlfriend needs emotional support.There was a reason it was devoid of IC posts, and that was your excessive ammount of OOCage.

Your's too? Wow, what a coinsidence. Here's a summarized version for you: [A flame would go here, but there are too many MODs in this thread].

Well, considering it was completly devoid of an IC roleplaying from you, except to your allies, it had to be filled with SOMETHING, didn't it?

I only read half of your post, do you think you could summarize the rest? My girlfriend needs emotional support.There was a reason it was devoid of IC posts, and that was your excessive ammount of OOCage.

Your's too? Wow, what a coinsidence. Here's a summarized version for you: [A flame would go here, but there are too many MODs in this thread].

You really don't get it. Had you posted ANYTHING IC toward the people who went through great trouble to write IC posts for you, I wouldn't have needed to get involved.

Don't you dare try to pin your horrible attitude toward those hard working players on me. You did that all on your own.

Oooooooooooooooookkkaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy.

---- NATIONSTATES ANNOCEMENT ----

Erm for the interests of all involved in this arguement i suggest this thread is now closed and we will all wait until Resi make the new thread for this.

----END OF NATIONSTATES ANNOCEMENT ----

OOC:

We need Iesus Christi to come out of isolation for this plotline to go anywhere.

When (if) the attack does happen... Kalessin will attack at the same time as Iesus Christi and the Reich. (Kalessin has been allied to IC since January, and is thus closer to the Reich than the rest of Arda!)

OOC: Resi, just let me know if you want me in the RP doing my small role.

Well, If you have finished up your rant. A summary of the attacks that happened directly can be found here: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1774287&highlight=#1774287

I've seen no productive stuff being added since I did my summary and I am pretty darn glad I took the weekend off so I didn't waste a shitload of time on this thread that are so obviously used up. I for one will continue this conflict and I agree to the statement made from Santa Barbara earlier in this thread. I just want to know what the Pro-Resi side thinks about it. Could you please post your opinion. It's on the earlier page I think.

OOC: If Army Group Hammer is there, consider Iesus to be behind that. And only Christicorp needs involvement for plot purposes, IC himself doesn't need to be there. Not with the rest of the Reich enforcing his Evil Plots!

Edit: And I think the pro Resi side is for the idea.

((OOC: I'm up for this *nods*))

OOC Okay. I can see where Vthnaar is coming from.
But to ere is human and to forgive divide... so with my God complex ( :wink: ) I think I'll try to back up SB on this one.

Eris... threads like this often do need some form of neutral adjudicator. It helps to resove disputes like the DNS vs. Ewok Pride issue, or point to the 'its unfair to ignore Kalessin because he hasn't god-modded yet'. The trouble is that you can't just have one side ask for it... both of them need to accept it and stick by it. Resi not being involved in asking for Vthnaar is why his involvment hasn't worked to the benefit of the thread... its also why he has encountered resistance from Resi (Resistance? :wink: joke) and hence why he has moved against that resistance.

On another note, I'm probably the only professional military expert here... and they've left me way behind on a lot of the future 'science'. I can't help saying, though, that since I know logistics well enough... I am _very_ skeptical about the idea of nano-machines making repairs and maintenance cost-free.

*Ahem* Back to the plot. Restart in effect, lets run to Santa Barbara's rules. Don't spam Resi#s TGs... if you're on his side: because it interferred with his ability to deal with things... if you're not: because it give him an out for someone else's telegram.
Fight him... but do it at his pace. And stop the incesent bumpage and OOC assaults which interfere with the thread... and keep it relevant darn it!
(glares ar Roania, DNS, Ewok Pride... all the random people who decide to be public about deciding not to do anything relevant to the thread).

Synchronise/Bevelle... there are still people waiting for you to finish the wars you provoked as Mishakal and Axackal II. Please deal with that before you take any moral high ground. I tried to _help_ you in one such thread and you just decided it wouldn't be fun for you because you were losing. To compare this to that is pretty close to insulting Resi.

Eris... threads like this often do need some form of neutral adjudicator. It helps to resove disputes like the DNS vs. Ewok Pride issue, or point to the 'its unfair to ignore Kalessin because he hasn't god-modded yet'. The trouble is that you can't just have one side ask for it... both of them need to accept it and stick by it. Resi not being involved in asking for Vthnaar is why his involvment hasn't worked to the benefit of the thread... its also why he has encountered resistance from Resi (Resistance? :wink: joke) and hence why he has moved against that resistance. OOC: his is exactly what I was tryng to say. Resi didn't ask him to mediate, so he had no place to do so. I like GMs/mediators/neutral parties etc.... I just wish that once they see their not wellcome, then they should get off their high horse.

Vegana, you are now on assignment direct from the Fuhrer, King Will himself to command Reich forces in the Resi war until such time as the Fuhrer can arrive. God Save the Reich.

Arch Chancellor Viktor Leipzig,
Administrator in Absentia Regem.

OOC: REALLY busy. Take control of everything, I cannot handle it. You have the full Army Group Hammer.