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New WW2 nation! (Allies wanted)

13-09-2003, 09:36
The United Arab Republic is looking for allies, roleplaying circa late 1930s, our nation is supposed to be Middle Eastern, friendly to our ex colonial masters in the West but quite religous. Our fighting forces are antiquaited but our bedouin warriors are unquestionably brave and our skill in desert warfare is unsurpassed.

http://www.specialtyinterests.net/camel_sword.JPG
A ceramonial camle warrior from a desert raider regiment.

http://www.spitcrazy.com/Swordfish-At-Muirkirk.jpg
The ARB-II a license built Fairey Swordfish modified for bombing missions, serves a sour frontline ground attack aircraft.
Wabu-Dhati
13-09-2003, 09:37
Join us! Wabu-Dhati, Ercolana, and Der Kriegsmarine, and lay waste to the allied powers!
13-09-2003, 09:59
who are the allied powers? Iam assuming Iansisle and Walmington-on-Sea

Well we might join the axis but we want to see who offers us the best chance of victory and expansion.
Roania
13-09-2003, 10:04
They are on the defense! You wanna win? Win with us.
Walmington on Sea
13-09-2003, 10:11
ooc:Out of interest, do we know you as anyone else?

You have no obligation to join the current conflict some of us have going on, but if you're a sensible and/or interesting fellow, few of us shall probably mind.

Currently WoS, Iansisle, and Calarca, as well as the United Kingdom (which doesn't exist as such in NS, but is a background nation as was France before she fell to Der Kriegsmarine's Germany) are allied and at war with DK's Germany. Ercolana (Italian-type nation) is to be considered on DK's side, though there's been little direct fighting with them as yet.

Wabu-Dhati has started a conflict with Chiang Mai and Hainan, apparently viewing them much as the Japanese viewed mainland Asia in real life, and as yet WoS, and, as far as I know, the other allies, are happy to let them fight one another, so long as WoS, Calarcan, and Iansislian colonies aren't threatened. We were previously worried that Hainan and Chiang Mai might attack them, but they've other worries now.

At the moment its sort of a three sided war. Wos/Ian/Cal aiming to push back the Nazis and defend their empires, DK/Erco trying to conquer europe, and possibly in Erco's case expand their empire, and Wabu trying to build his own empire at the expense of other Asian powers.

Er. Yeah, I think that's it :? [scratches head]

If you're in the middle east, and were existing in our little world (which as I say you don't have to do if you don't care for it) you're presumably an ex-British colony? Close to Ercolanan east Africa.

If you're in it for glory, I couldn't say who's best to join. The war's only just started, and we can't say who's going to come off best. It'll be a mess, no doubt, for all concerned.
13-09-2003, 10:13
Actually Ive changed my mind, instead of the United Arab Republic i have decided to to make the Trucial States my WWII Nation. Its much the same osrt of thing but its just got a slighly more appropriate nameand is mcuh larger.So UAR IS NOW ME.

So the Trucial States are in need of allies.

Sorry for the COnfusion.
Agrigento
13-09-2003, 10:14
Yeah, I really need to get around to posting some actual combatwith my troops, but I am so damn busy with school work.
Wabu-Dhati
13-09-2003, 10:17
Actually Ive changed my mind, instead of the United Arab Republic i have decided to to make the Trucial States my WWII Nation. Its much the same osrt of thing but its just got a slighly more appropriate nameand is mcuh larger.So UAR IS NOW ME.

So the Trucial States are in need of allies.

Sorry for the COnfusion.

Um... a May nation is a bit too large. Would be equivalent to godmodding in the time frame. Which ever side gets you is almost certainly gonna win.

Also, WoS, I think that right now Wabu should control Korea, as in RL.
Walmington on Sea
13-09-2003, 10:17
Quite understood, Ag, WoS is glad of the quiet- our hold on the African colonies is as tenuous as it is vital. Really must get some decent armour out there.
13-09-2003, 10:19
[b]

WoS: No you dont no me as anyone else, yes we are an ex British colony and yes we would ilke to be in your world and yes we would like to be on your side.

Our nation is effectively: Lebanon,Syria and Jordan and we are looking to expand into the South and East. We are a secular nation but q=with quite a religous Islamic population.

Also who is playing the role of the USSR?

We may be a May nation but we do not intend to act aas one, inded our nation is thrid world in comparison to others.

If it is that problematic we can switch back to the UAR but it just sounds a bit too modernand not colonial.
Walmington on Sea
13-09-2003, 10:21
Ah, I dunno that we're so strict over the pop/date thing around here, Wabu. WoS has existed since about 1500, and I tend to think of it as being a bit smaller than NS currently claims. Not so interested in the number crunching- I could conscript millions upon millions of men based on the way NS describes my nation, and some people RP, but then everyone would be doing that and it'd be a bit unweildy and tedius, I think. The WEF sent to Britain is barely 125,000 men strong, including thousands of none combat troops.
Roania
13-09-2003, 10:21
No one, as of yet. I believe we had DK already in control of eastern europe, didn't we? And where is Chiang Mai?
13-09-2003, 10:22
that Fairey Swordfish is not a "frontline ground attack aircraft". It is a torpedo bomber used on the british aircraft carries during WWII.
get it right please.

Everyone should come and join my region - HellHole in the backyard.
Best region out there.
Walmington on Sea
13-09-2003, 10:23
Ah, jolly good.

There's no USSR as such fighting in this- Germany has no eastern front on which to fight, and we're all content with that.. Iansisle is sort of the eastern power in Germany's eyes (though Calarca's in New Zealand and invovled now, with colonies in India/Gallaga)

The fact that Germany doesn't have the eastern front to worry about balances out some what the appearance of WoS to support the British in the west- we jumped in in about the equivalent to 1940, rather than waiting around like a bunch of..Yanks ;)
13-09-2003, 10:23
yes i know its a torpedo bomber thats why ist says it has been modified for ground attack.
13-09-2003, 10:25
Where is WoS? and the rest of the nations?

and also can we support your North Africa campaign, not far away..
Agrigento
13-09-2003, 10:27
Where is WoS? and the rest of the nations?

and also can we support your North Africa campaign, not far away..

Well right now it is off the coast of spain, Azores Island Chain. Although much larger than any of those islands. Not sure of that though. Before this I never really gave a real location for my countries, but for the war I kinda had to.

-Ercolana
Wabu-Dhati
13-09-2003, 10:29
Japan, Korea ((Dra-Pol is in Korea, and from what you said in that nations introduction...)), and the Ryuku islands((No USSR, you see)).
Walmington on Sea
13-09-2003, 10:31
WoS lies in the north Atlantic, west of the British isles, and its empire includes Mauritania, Togo, Sao Tome and Principe, much of South Africa, Zimbabwe, and Madagascar, and Ceylon/Sri Lanka (which we call Ceyloba). Iansisle is in the north Pacific, and has empire in Gallaga (India) and south east Asia. Calarca is in New Zealand, and also has empire in the areas Iansisle does. Australia is an empty/ignored place :)

Ercolana is in Italy, I think, and has empire in the Horn of Africa, and the western areas of Gallaga. Der Kriegsmarine is in Germany, of course, and has taken France, and I think Poland et cetera.

Wabu is apparently Japan, Hainan is of course Hainan (an island off China) and Chiang Mai is..south east Asian, there's a map somewhere.

WoS is concerned that Ercolana might dash across north Africa (possibly the British are there, but if so I imagine DK will help Erco to remove them)

edit: ah, yeah- heck, is Erco in the Atlantic, rather than Italy proper?
Agrigento
13-09-2003, 10:34
WoS: Your guess is as good as mine :wink:, I have never given a specific location before but I guess this would be best. Especially since I went through the trouble of renaming and redesigning all my ships/guns and to a much lesser extent vehicles. That rules out the usage of Italy proper, which I assume is controlled by DK -following the correct historic line-, but I am not sure of that.
Wabu-Dhati
13-09-2003, 10:36
WoS: Your guess is as good as mine :wink:, I have never given a specific location before but I guess this would be best. Especially since I went through the trouble of renaming and redesigning all my ships/guns and to a much lesser extent vehicles.

Wait. So Ercolana and Agrigento are the same nations?
Iansisle
13-09-2003, 10:37
Here's the map, of Asia, at least. Iansisle isn't on it - it should be. It's about 80 miles NE of Marcus Island.

On the map, Iansisle is green, Calarca (who's in NZ as well) is red, Walmington (who has cape colonies) is orange, Chaing Mai (Greater Siam) is blue, Hainan is brown, and Ercolana is yellow.

http://iansisle.freeservers.com/asiacol.jpg
Agrigento
13-09-2003, 10:39
Wait. So Ercolana and Agrigento are the same nations?

No completely seperate, I'm just too lazy to log out.
Wabu-Dhati
13-09-2003, 10:40
Right. Japan, Korea, and that little bit of land to the east of Mongolia (Manchuko), I claim. Just like in RL. I want gold. Or black.
Iansisle
13-09-2003, 10:42
(Woah there, chief. Do you at least have some sort of RP background you could show us?)
Roania
13-09-2003, 10:44
(Woah there, chief. Do you at least have some sort of RP background you could show us?)

((It is RL. They are NPC nations, and as in RL, I can claim that the major powers decided that it would be better to let me have them then the commies. But if you insist, then we'll deal with that tomorrow.))
Wabu-Dhati
13-09-2003, 10:47
(Woah there, chief. Do you at least have some sort of RP background you could show us?)

((It is RL. They are NPC nations, and as in RL, I can claim that the major powers decided that it would be better to let me have them then the commies. But if you insist, then we'll deal with that tomorrow.))

*Cough*
13-09-2003, 10:49
Hmm... Trucial states/UAR can be the Turkish empire. Tho if I'm gonna invade around there if you do go with the axis, well... I'm not gonna do gallipolli again, I'll land somewhere else.
Wabu-Dhati
13-09-2003, 10:50
((UM, in ww2, the Turkish empire no longer existed. In fact, in a purely logical sense, the Turkish Empire ceased to exist in 1888.))
Iansisle
13-09-2003, 10:50
(That's all well and good son, but I've not been terribly impressed by your RP thus far. Granted, you declaring war on the Chaing Mai / Hainan axis is a god send for me, and I really shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth...but I have to.)
13-09-2003, 10:52
(Woah there, chief. Do you at least have some sort of RP background you could show us?)

((It is RL. They are NPC nations, and as in RL, I can claim that the major powers decided that it would be better to let me have them then the commies. But if you insist, then we'll deal with that tomorrow.))

What commies? the commies didn't make much of a fuss in China etc until after the war. the map was worked out by RP in WoS, Agriento/Ercolania, Iansisle, and my case back in a long ago thread, and Chaing Mai and Hainan also have a RP history to back things up.

Post some links to you past RP please.
Wabu-Dhati
13-09-2003, 10:54
Um... you did accept me in in the last thread. I declared war on China and Korea recently, if you want to RP them you can. I'll track down the thread. Also, Trucial States has only the one post before this topic, so...
13-09-2003, 10:54
well we can play any Middle Eastern role thats required otherwise our territory will be Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and Palestine with our Capital being Jerusalem (no Israel obviously).

Our nation has no external empire and our navy is very limited, so our deployments are limited to North Africa, Horn of Africa and the Middle East for the moment.

we are joining the side of WoS and Iansisle as they are the most British based as our we so its logical. Thanks for the summary and i hope this is ok with everyone.

Regarding RP histiry, my modern nation is Kahtan (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=kahtan) andI have experience in many wars and crises and a reputation for being a highly realistic RPer.
13-09-2003, 10:56
((UM, in ww2, the Turkish empire no longer existed. In fact, in a purely logical sense, the Turkish Empire ceased to exist in 1888.))

Oops, sorry was thinking WW1, as in Gallipolli. :oops:
13-09-2003, 10:58
Um... you did accept me in in the last thread. I declared war on China and Korea recently, if you want to RP them you can. I'll track down the thread. Also, Trucial States has only the one post before this topic, so...

Oh Yeah, *Smacks forehead*, You're Roania.

too little sleep, too much booze = missing memory of who is also who. as well as dates of battles... like Gallipolli.
Wabu-Dhati
13-09-2003, 10:59
((UM, in ww2, the Turkish empire no longer existed. In fact, in a purely logical sense, the Turkish Empire ceased to exist in 1888.))

Oops, sorry was thinking WW1, as in Gallipolli. :oops:

Right. And here we go. This will be taking place before I declare war Hainan and Chiang Mai, of course. If no one rps the enemy, I'll declare myself victorious.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/posting.php?mode=editpost&p=1528125
Iansisle
13-09-2003, 11:00
...dates of battles... like Gallipolli.

(Or Galloquoi, even ;))
Wabu-Dhati
13-09-2003, 11:00
Um... you did accept me in in the last thread. I declared war on China and Korea recently, if you want to RP them you can. I'll track down the thread. Also, Trucial States has only the one post before this topic, so...

Oh Yeah, *Smacks forehead*, You're Roania.

too little sleep, too much booze = missing memory of who is also who. as well as dates of battles... like Gallipolli.

I wondered that. I was thinking I might have to reveal my true glory again. Still, it is only reasonable that Wabu-Dhati should control what Japan controlled.

Has anyone read that book which talks about a world where the Axis powers won?
13-09-2003, 11:01
umm... edit the link please, I can't edit your post... and it's a link to an edit page, not the page itself.
Wabu-Dhati
13-09-2003, 11:02
umm... edit the link please, I can't edit your post... and it's a link to an edit page, not the page itself.

Damn. One sec.

EDIT: Here we go. http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=70787

Better? But it will have to wait until tomorrow. And where the hell is Chiang Mai? I posted, and I tmmed them, but so far nothing.
13-09-2003, 11:04
Um... you did accept me in in the last thread. I declared war on China and Korea recently, if you want to RP them you can. I'll track down the thread. Also, Trucial States has only the one post before this topic, so...

Oh Yeah, *Smacks forehead*, You're Roania.

too little sleep, too much booze = missing memory of who is also who. as well as dates of battles... like Gallipolli.

I wondered that. I was thinking I might have to reveal my true glory again. Still, it is only reasonable that Wabu-Dhati should control what Japan controlled.

Has anyone read that book which talks about a world where the Axis powers won?

Der Fatherland. by some American.
Walmington on Sea
13-09-2003, 11:04
I'm reading Philip K.Dick's The Man In The High Castle, where the US is split between Germany and Japan, and everone in Africa is dead, and I once tried to read something about how Hitler could have won the war, but I nearly wet myself laughing at how drunk Fighter Command and the Royal Navy had to get for it to happen.
Wabu-Dhati
13-09-2003, 11:06
Heh. Yes.

((And I'm done. Tell CM to tm me when he get's on.))
13-09-2003, 11:08
i'm interested in changing to WW2 tech.
1. I know much more about it then modern
2. Modern tech is all about cruise missiles and tomahawks, impossible to RP!
3. In fact i will change to WW2 tech, using soviets as a basis.

Any thoughts?
13-09-2003, 11:08
I'm reading Philip K.Dick's The Man In The High Castle, where the US is split between Germany and Japan, and everone in Africa is dead, and I once tried to read something about how Hitler could have won the war, but I nearly wet myself laughing at how drunk Fighter Command and the Royal Navy had to get for it to happen.

Is that the one where everyone on the east coast uses the Oracle sticks and two gun fakers start making jewlery? and the Germans make rocket ships out of minerals extracted from jews bones?

read it. hilarious.

Having teddy roosevelt or someone die before the war was an interesting bit. but overplayed the help america was in the early stages. The Brits couldn't advance without the manpower, but they could damn well hold firm.
13-09-2003, 11:12
I will repeat my earlier post as everybody seems to have missed it:

well we can play any Middle Eastern role thats required otherwise our territory will be Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and Palestine with our Capital being Jerusalem (no Israel obviously).

Our nation has no external empire and our navy is very limited, so our deployments are limited to North Africa, Horn of Africa and the Middle East for the moment.

we are joining the side of WoS and Iansisle as they are the most British based as our we so its logical. Thanks for the summary and i hope this is ok with everyone.

Regarding RP histiry, my modern nation is Kahtan (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=kahtan) andI have experience in many wars and crises and a reputation for being a highly realistic RPer.

Oh and Im reading Berlin: The downfall by Anthony Beevor sequel to Stalingrad great book
Walmington on Sea
13-09-2003, 11:15
That's the one, Cal :)

I think the Trucial States will be fine to have involved, since a relatively ..backwards nation (sorry! WoS is usually backwards when interacting with modern nations, no offence meant ;) ) probably won't make the war impossible for the Axis sorts. He might have to be willing to take a few kickings, though. Just have to be proud of every little victory.

As for having the Soviets- I don't know, I certainly don't like to excude people, but the USSR would really make Germany's position impossible, and despite being at war with DK, I don't want him crushed without a heck of a good fight :) . I'm sure we can work something out.
13-09-2003, 11:16
Ok, Expect a Calarcian Lawrence to show up sometime soon. :)
13-09-2003, 11:23
why not make it as if te Nazi-Soviet Pact hadnt been broken and they were not allies but just not at war. After all Germany went to war with the Soviets not the other way around.

Yes we'd be prepared to take a few defeats.
Walmington on Sea
13-09-2003, 11:25
Yeah, I thought that. What would the Soviet player do, in that case? Seek empire..I mean..revolutionary liberation in Asia and/or Gallaga?
13-09-2003, 11:26
that would be cool, USSR against Japan heliping to bring communism to China...
15-09-2003, 13:41
Forget Russia, they are far too big for me. Japan is very interesting, they are for me.
15-09-2003, 13:49
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15-09-2003, 23:47
Sorry whats this about? :?: :(

A 1940's WW@ based RP we've got going, look for the Sinking odf the Liberty trhead and read it through, there're 10+ threads just in this war now, but the liberty one tracks most of it pretty coherantly.

It's pretty much a filled RP now, theres SO many to keep track of...
Roania
16-09-2003, 00:02
Forget Russia, they are far too big for me. Japan is very interesting, they are for me.

*As Wabu-Dhati

How about no.
16-09-2003, 00:03
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Roania
16-09-2003, 00:27
*As Wabu-Dhati

As the oldest Japanese nation, I get the emperor and the Prime Minister.Servant sounds better than ally, don't you agree :wink: