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Wright Nautical Construction
Coastal Paradise, Iansisle, the Commonwealth

Seagulls pitched and cawed over the black water of Troobodia Bay as fireworks burst over the city. HIMS Queen Jessica, the first Iansislean capital ship completed in the four years since the launching of HIMS Undauntable sat in Coastal Paradise’s harbor, her final fittings complete.

Captain Robert Halders, R.I.N., the former commander of HIMS Diomedes and HIMS Stalwart, stood on the bridge, his nostrils absorbing the tender scent of fresh gray paint. He could see politicians posturing on the shore, each trying to take credit for the rebuilding of the Royal Iansislean Navy. A band piped out “Ode to Commonwealth”, the hymn of Iansisle.

Nearly alongside Jessica sat the hull of HIMS King James II, which was just starting her fitting out. Still in the Wright N.C. yard was the nearly-completed hulk of King Ian V, which was just getting ready for launching.

Halders could feel the lull in the festivities as all eyes turned to Jessica herself. With a grimace, Halders nodded. “Comm, inform the tugs. Let us start the show, ensign.”

The tugs surrounding Queen Jessica started their engines, slowly pulling the massive battlecruiser free of the harbor. Once they were clear to make backwards for the entrance, Halders shot another glance at the comm officer. “Tell the tugs to cut free. Helm, prepare for six knots abaft at my order.”

With a shudder, the massive ship - set for normal displacement, with about a third her usual oil stores - lit up her 3-drum boilers for the first time. Around her, the civilian tugs retreated to a safe distance. Halders nodded again. “Now.”

The three gigantic screws churned at the water, foaming the water behind Jessica to a frothy white. With a ponderous grace, the large ship moved aft under her power, slowly swinging her majestic clipper-style bow towards the harbor exit.

The Jessica was a large and unusual ship, but by no means an ugly one. As she slid out to leave on her working up trials, the crewmen at Wright Nautical admired their handiwork. Her sleek bow lines dipped gracefully to a hull that seemed rather different from most other warships. For one, the actual amount of freeboard showing was much larger than on other Iansislean warships, to compensate for her narrow beam. Also, her superstructure and twin smokestacks seemed very low, and tilted back at a somewhat rakish angle.

Halders smiled at the now-distant crowds gathered alongside the wharf. “Helm, all ahead eight knots. Take us out.”

(statistics and anouncment of HIMS Queen Jessica-class battlecruiser available here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=61648&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20&sid=0582c4e52e83125f1ba46ba243032de9))

You stole my posting style! HOW DARE YOU!

(*scratches head* I did?)

(*scratches head* I did?)

Umm... look at ANY of my In-Character posts... right from the very first one. It's no problem dude, I don't care. I was being sarcastic.

(hmm...visually, they are very close, but whereas I use mine to identify location (specific building/area/time on top, general city/country on bottom) yours seem to be more of a general title on top and subtitle on bottem type.

At any rate, I hadn't noticed your posts. I'll drop the italics on bottom and reduce the size slightly instead. Sorry about stealing the style - I assure you, it wasn't intentional.)

Good Luck to the queen!

As long as her maiden voyage dosn't take her into the Gulf of Siam the Empress thought...she pinned an official note:
We congratulate the Commowealth for the completion completion of this mighty warship.No doubt, it will be used wisely.
-Her Most Sanctified Magnificencence, Lia Liuo II by the Graces of the Gods

She then wrote a letter urging Nayanjaya Shipyards to complete the HSMS Laos faster.

Jameston Place
Ianapalis, Iansisle, the Commonwealth

Lord John MacIntyre, Minister for Foreign Affairs recieved the brief note from HSM Lia Liuo II and nodded. Because relations between Iansisle and Chaing Mai were, on the surface at least, still rather friendly, he didn't think it unusual.

(don't worry - Q.J. will still be working up for three months, completing trials and testing her equiptment, then going on an extended tour, probably to Laughlin, Batam, and Nusheld. Of course, no such plans have been announced by the Admiralty of yet.)

Mrotsky quickly wrote a letter of congradulations to Iansisle, though he did not think of it as very impressive.

(bump)

Damn, another ship I have to sink!

Congratulations to Iansisle on her most recent achievement.
Your fruit basket is on the way. :roll:

Congratulations to Iansisle on her most recent achievement.
Your fruit basket is on the way. :roll:

(I smell someone not taking the fruit basket thing seriously ;)

Eh, it's kinda worn out its funny, anyway.)

I only meant that, with all the things going on around Britain, sending you a fruit basket for completing a warship might seem a little odd.

(ah, yes, I forgot about that (seems rather hard, I know). I guess I'm just a little more worried about this sudden anto-me east asian alliance that has popped up. It's ok - you don't have to send me a fruit basket ;))

"Congratulations on the launch of the HIMS Queen Jessica. We wish her and her crew the best."

Dan Jenson
Ministry of Defense

Earl Drose looked out the window at the distant dockyard where the latest destroyers for the Calarcian navy were taking shape.
turning to his secetary he gave orders for a note of congratulations to be sent to Iansisle on the launch of the Queen Jessica

(Yay! I'm a threat to eastern colonial powers and they know it! Anyway my battlecruiser has 9 15" guns)

(Well, Jessica isn't meant to be a threat to front line ships. She's meant to engage and destroy multiple heavy cruiser / destroyer escorts while raiding commerce and generally being a nusance. That's why more raw tonnage goes to fuel, food and ammunition. As the British taught us at Jutland and the Denmark Straight, you DO NOT put battlecruisers in the line of battle against frontline battleships. That's the tactical role my Behemoth-class battleships - with their 16"/50 guns and 15" steel armor manufactured by RM&M of Ianapalis (who has spent more money on improving their product than many country's admiraltys spend on new ships), they are a line of battleship, unlike the Jessica.)

The workhorses of the fleet:

The flashy battleships and cruisers that make up the Royal Iansislean Navy's front line may draw the majority of public attention, but I'd just like to throw a shout out to the torpedo boats, minelayers, and minesweepers that keep the R.I.N. afloat!

Torpedo Boats

TBIII-class

Length: 270’2”
Beam: 29’8”
Draft: 8’9”-9’6”
Speed: 34.5 knots
Oil (Range): 210 tons (1,107 miles at 19 knots ; 610 at 34.5 knots)
Power Plant (HP): 4 Westerton Mk. XVIII (30,500)
Shafts: 2 (15,250 SHP)
Crew: 188
Displacement: 840 tons standard ; 1,088 tons deep load
Armarment: 1 x 4.1” / 45 caliber gun (forward) ; 4 x 2 pounder AA guns (broadsides) ; 6 (2 x 3) 18” torpedo tubes (above water, broadsides) ; 55 mines

Ships: TBIII-I, TBIII-II, TBIII-III, TBIII-IV, TBIII-V, TBIII-VI, TBIII-VII

TBII-class

Length: 210’2”
Beam: 22’8”
Draft: 5’9”-6’4”
Speed: 37.5 knots
Oil (Range): 130 tons (820 miles at 19 knots ; 440 at 37.5 knots)
Power Plant (HP): 3 Westerton Mk. XVIII (24,500)
Shafts: 2 (12,250 SHP)
Crew: 102
Displacement: 620 tons standard ; 766 tons deep load
Armarment: 4 x 2 pounder AA guns (broadsides) ; 6 (2 x 3) 18” torpedo tubes (above water, both forward) ; 55 mines

Ships: TBII-I, TBII-II, TBII-III, TBII-IV, TBII-V, TBII-VI, TBII-VII, TBII-VIII, TBII-IX, TBII-X, TBII-XI, TBII-XII, TBII-XIII, TBII-XIV, TBII-XV

TBI-class

Length: 65’6”
Beam: 17’2”
Draft: 3’9”-4’2”
Speed: 40 knots
Gasoline (Range): 5 tons (350 miles at 19 knots ; 107 at 40 knots)
Power Plant (HP): 3 Westerton Mk. XV 12 cylynder (3,750)
Shafts: 3 (1,250 SHP)
Crew: 12
Displacement: 22 tons standard ; 27.25 tons deep load
Armarment: 4 (2 x 2) 18” torpedo tubes (above water, both forward)

Ships: TBI-I through TBI-XXVI

Minesweepers

Deliverance-class

Length: 186’
Beam: 32’6”
Draft: 7’9” - 8’6”
Speed: 15.5 knots
Oil (Range): 170 tons (4,500 miles at 10 knots)
Power Plant (HP): 2 Westerton Mk. VIII boilers (1,800)
Shafts: 2 (900 SHP)
Crew: 66 (standard)
Displacement: 735 tons standard ; 950 tons deep load
Armarment: 1 x 4.1”/50 gun forward ; 3 x .55 cal machine guns (port, starboard, and aft) 1 x depth charge thrower (20 depth charges) ; RIN220 sweeper equiptment

Ships: HIMS Absolution, Acquittal, Amnesty, Clearance, Discharger, Dismissal, Deliverance, Duty, Exculpation, Exemption, Exoneration, Freeing, Liberation, Pardon, Releaser, Relief, Reprieve, Vindication

Minelayers

Judgment-class

Length: 186’
Beam: 32’6”
Draft: 7’9” - 8’6”
Speed: 15.5 knots
Oil (Range): 170 tons (4,500 miles at 10 knots)
Power Plant (HP): 2 Westerton Mk. VIII boilers (1,800)
Shafts: 2 (900 SHP)
Crew: 66 (standard)
Displacement: 735 tons standard ; 950 tons deep load
Armarment: 1 x 4.1”/50 gun forward ; 3 x .55 cal machine guns (port, starboard, and aft) 1 x depth charge thrower (20 depth charges) ; 120 mines (magnetic exploder, 559 lbs explosive)

Ships: HIMS Judgment, Incisiveness, Prudence, Discernment, and Rational

I posted all my ships stats in this thread:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=63921

Also, Haikou class is meant to kill other battlecruisers as well as cruisers, etc.

(Yay! I'm a threat to eastern colonial powers and they know it! Anyway my battlecruiser has 9 15" guns)
[damn you!mine only has 8 15"! :x :lol: ]

OOC:
Eh well my upcoming one will have 8 18" guns

First MPAF-6s deployed out of Commonwealth

NASHUA, GALLA-CHINA - As part of a larger redeployment move intended to strengthen Iansisle’s failing strength in South-East Asia, Air Marshall Sir Timothy J. Bates today authorized the deployment of twelve MPAF-6 “Colt” aeroflyers to Delta Wing in Galla-China.

More and more, Iansisle has forced itself to make cuts at home and in other theaters to keep pace with certain but not-identified ‘threats’ in South-East Asia. The Mobile AeroFlyer Dock (MAFD) HIMS Salvador, along with the heavy cruisers HIMS Noropia and HIMS Laughlin, departed for Port Laughlin, Sarawak earlier this week.

The Ministry of War refuses to make any comments on the severity of the threat to Iansisle’s Asiatic colonies, with a lower lever M.o.W. clerk simply stating that “the problem will be contained.”

In response, the Hainanese Defense Ministry has decided to speed up the process of fielding 2 more squadrons of I-4 fighters.

OOC:Hainan, this would be a good time to RP that airshow, ;) you, know from the ambassador thread.

OOC:Hainan, this would be a good time to RP that airshow, ;) you, know from the ambassador thread.
OOC:
Ah yes.

Hope Iansisle doesn't mind :wink:

OOC:eh, he's the one who started the air power over Galla-China contest ;)

(Is Graye Aero-Flyers going to have to release the MPAF-7 already? :?

It still needs more testing!)

OOC: damn!if they do, the Dragonfly MkII will have to be released untested also!*mutters something about colonial powers*

(the MPAF-7 will be released on the announcment of a competing jet-powered craft by a percieved 'hostile' power (you, Hainan, or D.K.). It's just I like to play Iansisle ahead in air tech, even in sea, and far behind in land. Also, the MPAF-6 was released....er, three weeks ago, so Graye's had plenty of time to develop the next generation ;)

Still, I won't use it until jet power hits all involved nations. That wouldn't be very sporting :))

EDIT: 3 RL weeks. About three to five years in NS time.

OOC:eh, he's the one who started the air power over Galla-China contest ;)
OOC:
Be back tommorow.

OOC:the problem is Chiang Maï works similarly to Iansisle, but with smaller numbers, obviously....so if you start deployment of jet fighters, Chiang Maï will be building new aircraft as a counter :)

OOC:eh, he's the one who started the air power over Galla-China contest ;)
OOC:
Be back tommorow.ok, cya...

I have 3,000 MiG-15's...

can sell for cheap.

OOC:the problem is Chiang Maï works similarly to Iansisle, but with smaller numbers, obviously....so if you start deployment of jet fighters, Chiang Maï will be building new aircraft as a counter :)

(I told you that the MPAF-6 is a jet fighter, right? Er, if not, sorry, here's (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=54814&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60) the anouncment. The MPAF-5 (and the BAF-1) are about half way, maybe a little more, down the page.)

OOC:knew it was a jet, hadn't got the exact stats though...but they kinda reassure me, actually.I wasn't planning on releasing stats on the Dragonfly MkI until the air show, but....here's a sneak preview (havn't got any pics):
Jinden Defense Industries Dragonfly MkI:
Armament: 1x Jinden Dragonmaw 33mm aviation gun
2x Jinden Crossbow 23mm aviation guns
4x Jinden machine-rifle 7.7mm
2x Jinden Aerial Rockets MkI (dumb-fire 1050kph-speed rockets which explode into a cloud of shrapnel 250ft from point of launch...more usefull against infantry than aircraft really)
Speed: 765 kph(480mph)
Range: 800km(500miles)
Maneuvrability:i'll give a statistical figure later, but better than your jet :P .
i'll give more details about it later, i only got very few of them though... :cry:

I would love to see how a Macchi would stand up to a jet fighter, not very well I wager.

(that's rather fast for how heavily armed she is :?

The only reason my MPAF-5 (piston driven) flyer goes as fast as she does - 417 mph, with superb manouvering capability - is because I stripped it down to 2 20mm cannons, 4 .303 machine guns, and no armor.)

(that's rather fast for how heavily armed she is :?

The only reason my MPAF-5 (piston driven) flyer goes as fast as she does - 417 mph, with superb manouvering capability - is because I stripped it down to 2 20mm cannons, 4 .303 machine guns, and no armor.)

The Iansislian Zero, is it? It worked for Japan well enough.

The Iansislian Zero, is it? It worked for Japan well enough.

(I suppose that's the best comparison that could be made, but the "Steed" tends to outperform the "Zero" by a decent margin, because of the amount of money Graye has poured into aerodynamic designs and Westerton into powerful motors. Still, in concept, the "Zero" taken to even worse extremes ;)

That's one good thing about the "Colt" - it has this thing called "armor", rather contrary to Graye's previous designs. Oh well, I suppose the BAF-1 may be among the most durable flyers in the air, so I can't complain.)

OOC-Yeah, but it works. AA shells hitting cloth or thin sheet metal tend to pass strait through, rather than exploding. I read somewhere that contributed heavily to the pilots from the Arc Royal all making it home after attacking the Bismarck; her AA shells failed to detonate when they hit the Swordfish's cloth skin. As you noted, it also makes for a faster and more agile aircraft as well.

Calarca is an Isolated nation, way out the far end of nowhere, relying on sea transport. As such we have only 3 BBs, most of our major ships are commerce protection, long endurance, powerfully gunned fleet cruisers. these come with either small fast torpedo boats on slings or bombers on the rear. Normal operational procedure is to drop the torpedo boats over the side before engaging under cover of smoke laid to hide the boats and distract the enemy.

Light Cruisers

Here is a 6x 7.4" Cruiser, with two triple turrents to the fore, and two Seaplane torpedo bombers on the rear.
http://www.combinedfleet.com/oyodo01.jpg
9,900 tons 7 inch armour over the magazines, 4 inch otherwise. 630 feet LOA, 32 Knts, long range. multiple 4 inch DP and 20mm AA guns abound.

Here is a 5x 5.5" light cruiser, note the torpedo boat aft of the lifeboat beside the funnels. one single turrent fore, two twin turrents, one each fore and aft.
http://www.combinedfleet.com/yubari01.jpg
9,100 tons, 7 inch armour over the magazines, 3 inch elsewhere. 580 feet LOA, 33 Knts, Long range. Some 4 inch DP and multiple 40mm and 20mm mounts.

A light escort cruiser, designed to lead convoy escorts of destroyers and engage multiple enemy destroyers or torpedo boats, 7 single 7.4" turrents, also has a spotter plane.
http://www.combinedfleet.com/jintsu01.jpg
7,900 tons, 4" armour over magazines, 3.5" elsewhere. 560 feet LOA, 36 Knts Long range. Shown here carrying Torpedo boats where a heavy battery of 4" DP and 40mm mounts are carried as convoy air protection. Here in a battlegroup with Heavy cruisers behind, as protection against enemy torpedo boats, other ship classes would be deployed as AA ships.

Heavy Cruisers

Our strangest Cruiser, it has 6 twin 9.8" turrents on the foredeck, two in the centerline, and two each side, here the port side tow are seen facing aft. this gave them an almost teardrop shape at the waterline, with a pronounced wide beam foreward tapering to a long slim stern aft, this freed up the aft deck for 7 torpedo bombers.the wide beam meant that the boilers were situated just aft of the magazines where the beam was still wide, and could therefore be much larger than ships of this size would otherwise carry. This is our fastest ship.
http://www.combinedfleet.com/chikum01.jpg
14,700 tons, 9" armour over the magazine 5" elsewhere, 780 feet LOA, 38 Knts, Long range. 4 twin 4" DP turrents, 8 guns in all, and multiple twin 40mm and 20mm mounts.

Our standard Heavy Cruiser, 3 twin 9.8" turrents on the foredeck in a line, the second has no foreward firing, but can fire from 11 degrees off the bow to 150 degrees to each side. The rear deck has space for 4 floatplanes.
http://www.combinedfleet.com/mogami01.jpg
12,100 tons 8" armour over the magazines, 6" elsewhere. 710 feet LOA, 32 Knts, long range. 4 twin 4"DP turrents and multiple 40mm and 20mm AA guns.

A simple heavy Cruiser. 3 twin 9.8" turrents and two twin 7.4" turrents on the rear deck, similiar to the above cruiser but with only two floatplanes and the rear turrents.
http://www.combinedfleet.com/suzuya01.jpg
13,400 tons 8"armour over the magazines, 6" elsewhere. 760 feet LOA, 31 Knts, long range. 4 twin 4" DP turrents and multiple 40mm and 20mm AA guns.

A destroyer smasher, designed for a similiar purpose as the 7 single guned light cruiser, this class of ship is a heavier attempt at the same job, convoy or Battlegroup protection against opposition light ships. 6 twin 7.4" turrents, 4 on the foredeck, tow on the centerline, one each to port and starboard, dreadnaught style. the starboard third position turrent is obscured by the port third position turrent in this picture.
http://www.combinedfleet.com/atago01.jpg
14,900 tons, 8" armour over magazines 7" elsewhere. 840 feet LOA, 31 Knts, Long range. 4 twin DP 4" turrents and the usual profusion of 40mm and 20mm AA guns. Especially heavy anti-torpedo defences and strengthening, as appropriate for something going up against torpedo carrying destroyers.

Battlecruiser

We only have a few of these ships, prefering normal cruisers, however this has far more space dedicated to engines and fuel, allowing only a knot less speed than our fastest ship, and an even longer range, rather than commerce protection and flotilla cruising like the others, this is designed to operate alone a long distance from other friendly ships in enemy waters. A dedicated commerce raider. main armament is nine 12.4" guns in three triple foredeck turrents, with a secondary armament of four 9.8" guns in two rear turrents. AA defences are stronger than the usual complement, mostly carried on the aft deck. this ship has a lot of space for stores and captives.
http://www.combinedfleet.com/kumano01.jpg
16,200 tons, 10" over magazines 8.5 inches elsewhere. 920 feet LOA, 38 Knts, Extreme range. 4 DP 4" turrents, three times the usual 40mm and 5 times the usual 20mm complement. Several torpedo tubes.

Battleship

There are only 3 BBs in our navy, these are powerful weapons of war however.
A heavy armament of 6 twin 15.2" turrents a total of 12 guns, backed by seven twin DP 4" turrents a side a total of 24 guns. While this ship class carries no intermediate weapons, it is always to be found in company of others, usually Heavy destroyer smashers.
http://www.combinedfleet.com/hyuga01.jpg
29,900 tons, 18" over magazines 13" elsewhere. 1107 LOA, 28 Knts, medium range.

We have a number of destroyer designs, (OOC: more info in another post, I'm getting typists cramp)

(that's rather fast for how heavily armed she is :?

The only reason my MPAF-5 (piston driven) flyer goes as fast as she does - 417 mph, with superb manouvering capability - is because I stripped it down to 2 20mm cannons, 4 .303 machine guns, and no armor.)she's bigger-with a bigger engine to match.Some of the later Spitfires could make 500 mph;the Hawker Tempest (piston-driven) was considerably faster, and could even keep up with Me 262 jets over short distances(and she was well-armed and solid).Since aviation is supposedly my forte, i'm using a blend of late-war Japanese and English piston-engine fighter development sin the Dragonfly, plus some that wern't seen in WWII(the Dragonfly has canards which the Japanese were designing, the horsepower of the late-war Rolls-Royce piston engines, and a cranked arrow wing ;) )If you think it's to much i'll scale it down though :cry: ....note also that the second batch of 12 (they're being built in a factory that has 12 production ateliers) has only just exited the factories, it's a much more recent design than the Colt.

*Looks at his Macchi Mc.205 "Veltro's" and cries :cry: *

http://www.regiamarina.net/arsenals/planes_it/macchi/images/mc205a.jpg

eh, if you had a few less battleships i might feel sorry for you Erco ;)
also, the Dragonfly takes some time to build and is rather expensive :? luckily, absolute monarchies can arrest a wealthy merchant from time to time and confiscate his wealth :wink:

I only have 2 Battleships in service right now with a few on the way but still in production, although my battlecruisers are almost as powerful.

Well i have 2 obsolete PoS battleships and 1 obsolete good battleship (but it's still obsolete :( ) but i think your 2 could put all three at the bottom of the ocean....i have some good battlecruisers though,less firepower but more armor than yours...but then i suspect you got a good deal more battlecruisers than me :(

Well i have 2 obsolete PoS battleships and 1 obsolete good battleship (but it's still obsolete :( ) but i think your 2 could put all three at the bottom of the ocean....i have some good battlecruisers though,less firepower but more armor than yours...but then i suspect you got a good deal more battlecruisers than me :(

Here, Fleet Tracker Thread: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=64803 , this should help you!

eh, you have as many battlecruisers as me, but you have more on the way...more heavy cruisers than me, to.Plus you have carriers and radar, and i have neither....and something tells me you've got tanks, yet another development i lack :cry:

eh, you have as many battlecruisers as me, but you have more on the way...more heavy cruisers than me, to.Plus you have carriers and radar, and i have neither....and something tells me you've got tanks, yet another development i lack :cry:

Right now the only tanks I have in service are very obsolete, but hopefully that will change soon. :twisted:

- Ercolana

right now the only "tanks" we have in service are frickin' elephants with MGs on their back, and it won't change soon :cry: of course, w ehave plenty of jungles where tanks wouldn't be much help anyway :wink:

right now the only "tanks" we have in service are frickin' elephants with MGs on their back, and it won't change soon :cry: of course, w ehave plenty of jungles where tanks wouldn't be much help anyway :wink:

Hehe, one feature of the Agrigentian Military and subsequentially of the Ercolanan Military (because I command then both, duh!) that you will eventually learn, is that we are quite good at jungle operations, so much damn experience, too much if you ask me! Or we could just hire East Islandian Trackers. In the Great Azorean War, Agrigento's version of this, we did very well versus a guerilla army in the midst of a vast jungle - Probably comes from reading all that Sun Tzu and Mao.

(Who's side are you on anyways? I think I am joining with Germany)

well Chiang Maï is opposed to Iansisle because they happen to have colonies all around us and there's a national psychosis about them invading ;) so that puts us de facto on the same side.

I think I'm going to work on my airforce some more! Oh Joy! :o

arrghhh, no i need to stay ahead! :P (btw in case you havn't noticed Chiang Maï is my WWII puppet ;) )

[actually, i'll wait to post more detailed stats on engining/speed...gotta work out HP/Weight/drag ratios :? ]

[posting link to airshow thread for when Hainan comes on...i wont have a smuch time now though, with vacation coming to an end :( ]
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=66864&highlight=

OOC:
Well then I'll start development of the I-5, my own jet fighter.

OOC:
My upcoming battlecruiser:
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/329267/Parcel.jpg

(well, Chaing Mai, you're right - sorry to doubt your word. I must confess that flight is not a passion of mine, as are the battleships. You don't have to tone it down at all - again, sorry for accusing you. At any rate, Graye's still going to get ready for the MPAF-7 ;) )

Graye AeroFlyers to introduce MPAF-7 “Derby”

LAKERIVERWOOD, GADSAN - With the jet-powered MPAF-6 “Colt” not quite phased in across the Empire’s Flying Corps, Graye AeroFlyers announced its latest work to counter advanced civilian pleasure craft being deployed by Bankfield.

Military men were upset when the “Colt” was severely outperformed, in terms of maneuvers and speed, at the recent Ianapalis airshow by late generation Bankfield aeroflyers. The Ministry of War threatened to switch from Graye to Bankfield as their primary contractor, which forced Irvin Graye and his team to release the half-built prototype X-16 early. After initial tests, the Ministry was reported as “very happy” with the new design.

The X-16 is quite a bit faster than the Colt, and can carry a higher weapon load with a bit more armor. The first of the new aeroflyers - designated MPAF-7 “Derby” by the Flying Corps - is scheduled to roll off the line in four months, with full mass production starting in eight months. Initial models will be sent to Safe Harbor for field testing, with the older MPAF-6s being either sold to allies or shipped to colonial fronts. Word on the deployment of “Derby”s overseas was not released.

The MPAF-7 “Derby”

Dimensions
Role: Single seat air superiority and bomber craft
Length: 38’11”
Wingspan: 39’2”
Height: 14’6”
Weight: 14,111 lbs loaded

Power and Performance
Power Plant: One Henderson R17 turbojet producing 5,366 lbs of thrust
Top speed: 665 miles/hour
Cruising speed: 540 miles/hour
Range: 1,140 miles
Combat Ceiling: 51,400 ft

Armament
4 x Camstol 20mm AA cannons
up to 2,000 lbs of bombs, or eight 5” rockets

http://mars.ark.com/~camuseum/RCAF/images/Sabre2.jpg
The X-16 on military trials

Ercolana:

Jeezus!! My Macchi's are going to get owned... Maybe I should just lend lease some F-15's from Agrigento!! :twisted:

OOC:
My upcoming battlecruiser:
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/329267/Parcel.jpg

Hmmm..... Looks a lot like the Sharnhorst. Except for the extra stack, I mean...

OOC: DK, it's a lign drawing from Furashita's Navy
Ercolona:yes, your Macchi's are going to get owned :twisted:
Iansisle:damn fast jets, if you use those for bombing things could get really hairy here....in a dogfight they don't have a serious advantage, in fact they probably can be outmenuvered by a clever pilot in a prop aircraft, though they've got the firepower and armor your Steeds lack...they should be able to fight my Nagas out of the sky, but the Dragonflies are a whole different can of worms, much better suited to fighting jets....

:oops:

OOC:DK,eh, well, you never know how much your interlocutor knows over the web ;) no need to get abrasive...

True. I appologise; it's been a very long and aggrevating nite. I meant no offense.

ok, no problems...

OOC: Iansisle:damn fast jets, if you use those for bombing things could get really hairy here....in a dogfight they don't have a serious advantage, in fact they probably can be outmenuvered by a clever pilot in a prop aircraft, though they've got the firepower and armor your Steeds lack...they should be able to fight my Nagas out of the sky, but the Dragonflies are a whole different can of worms, much better suited to fighting jets....

(It'll be at least an IC year before those are deployed overseas - unless things get REALLY hairy - so I wouldn't worry too much. This does mean that an increasing number of MPAF-6s and MPAF-5s now reserved for the defense of Safe Harbor will be freed up for East Asian service. Right now, most of the E.A. flying corps is MPAF-4s - old, cloth covered monofighters that aren't on the front line for a reason. I don't have exact specs for it, but it's so outclassed now that it shouldn't matter.)

[eh, much the same reasons the Dragonfly is still reserved for the Imperial Guard....the only difference being, the Guard is closer to the scene of things that your home defence units ;) ]

[eh, much the same reasons the Dragonfly is still reserved for the Imperial Guard....the only difference being, the Guard is closer to the scene of things that your home defence units ;) ]

(Ah, yes, the disadvantage to being a colonial power. I think we can assume that if any conflict should arise, Galla-China would be pretty fast to fall. ;))

[depends....Iansislean Mekong would easily be cut off by the combined Maï/Hainanese sea power, with gunboat and PT boats invading the delta and Maï land forces attacking through the jungle, either starving out your garrisons if they stay in their forts or a Dien Bien Phu style battle if they sally ;) ...Burma could be differently, if you deploy some of those recently acquire Walmingtonish tanks....they couldn't reach the Golden Triangle Plateaus unless you can airlift them, which i doubt, so that would probably fall fast, but mainstream Burma goes straight into Bangladesh and India, so depending on who owns what in Northern India it could be interesting...]

(Well, Northern India (which Calarca, Ag, and I refer to as "Gallaga" because of an RP we had a while back) is largely Iansislean. Our port of Nusheld is in the Mouths of the Ganges, a little farther east than Calcutta. The Ganges River Basin, up to about Delhi, and south along the coast to about Cuttack, then back up along the Mahandi River basin is what is referred to as "Iansislean Gallaga". Burma is technically part of the same colony, which is actually administered by the East Gallaga Company. The Company maintains its own army, navy, and flying force seperate from main Iansislean troops. The army is large (circa 150,000 most of the time), but uses primarily native sepoy troops and Iansislean ground weapons. The navy and air corps are both small - the navy primarily river boats and a few small ocean-goers to combat piracy, and the flying forces mainly old MPAF-4s.)

OOC:
Grr... my I-5 which I'm about to unveil cant matcxh that new one. Oh well, wait for the I-6.

Calarca has two major aerial combatants, the Daring industries “Dervish” and the Homefield “Wasp” fighters. Two Bomber types, a light torpedo/dive bomber and a heavier high altitude gravity bomber, the “Devastator” by Homefield, And the “Bat” by Garstead Corporation. There are also a Flying Boat, the Daring industries “Whirlwind” Fighterbomber with capability to carry torpedos, bombs or airsown mines and a prototype jet fighter. There is a Transport aeroflyer, dubbed the Mule.

Calarca has no indigeous jet industry and no expertise in order to develop such themselves, therefore Calarca is in talks with other countries in order to source licence build agreements for an exisiting engine, mainly with Iansisle, However talks have bogged down due to the rivalry between the two countries dating back to the conflicts in Gallaga.

The Dervish
http://www.nzfpm.co.nz/images/profiles/i16.jpg
http://www.nzfpm.co.nz/images/small/phil004.jpg
http://www.nzfpm.co.nz/images/large/phil005.jpg
Length: 19’ 8”
Height: 7’ 9”
Wingspan: 29’ 1”
Empty Weight: 3,370 lb
Gross Weight: 4,053 lb
Performance:
Maximum Speed: 323 mph
Cruising Speed: 287 mph
Service Ceiling: 34,530 ft
Range: 900 miles
Powerplant: One Shvetsov M-62R 1,000 hp 9 cylinder radial
Armament: Two 20 mm ShVAK cannon
Two 7.62mm ShKAS machine guns
plus six RS-82 rocket missiles
External bombload: None


The Hornet
http://www.warbirdalley.com/images/buffalo-01.jpg

Length: 26ft. 4in.
Height: 12ft. 1in
Wing Span: 35ft. 0in.
Empty Weight: 4,723 lbs.
Gross weight: 7,159 lbs.
Performance:
Maximum Speed: 321 mph
Cruising Speed: 258 mph
Ceiling: 33,200 ft.
Range: 965 miles
Pwerplant: One 1350-hp Pratt & Whitney R-1830-94 Twin Wasp radial engine.
Armament: Four 20mm ShVAK Cannon
plus six RS-82 rocket missiles
plus two 100-pound bombs or two VAP-6M or ZAP-6 chemical containers. (optional for ground attack missions)

The Devastator Bomber
http://www.warbirdalley.com/images/privateer--03.jpg
Engine: Four 1350-hp Pratt & Whitney R-1830-94 Twin Wasp radial engines.
Weight: Empty 27,485 lbs., Max Takeoff 65,000 lbs.
Wing Span: 110ft. 0in.
Length: 74ft. 7in.
Height: 30ft. 1in.
Performance:
Maximum Speed: 237mph
Range: 2,800 miles
Armament: 12 12.7-mm (0.5-inch) machine guns
Load, 25,000 lbs bombs.

The Bat bomber.
http://pratt.edu/~rsilva/images/pe-2s.jpg
Engine: two 980Hp Sokol straight 18cyl.
Weight: 13119 lbs empty, Max takeoff 18700 lbs
Wing span: 56ft 11in
Length: 41ft 11in
Height 11ft 2in
Performance:
Max Speed: 289mph
Range: 2,100
Armament: 2 fixed forward firing 20mm ShVAK cannon in the nose. 2 12.7mm/.5” MG in rear canopy.
Load: either 2 Torpedos or 2 1500 lb bombs or 6 depthcharges on external racks.

The HX-51 prototype.
http://www.ctrl-c.liu.se/misc/ram/yak-23-2.jpg
http://www.ctrl-c.liu.se/misc/ram/yak23yak.jpg
Not flying.

The Mule Transport.
http://www.combataircraft.com/aircraft/can2_d.jpg
http://www.warbirdalley.com/images/an2-03.jpg
Type: 14-seat transport and general utility aircraft
Max Speed: 139 kt / 160 mph
Max Range : 1,500 km / 1000 miles
Dimensions: span upper 18.18 m / 59 ft 7.7 in,
lower 14.24 m / 46 ft 8.6 in
length 12.74 m / 41 ft 9.6 in
height 4.00 m / 13ft 1.5 in
Weight: empty 3,450 kg / 7,606 lb
maximum take-off 5,500 kg / 12,125 lb
Powerplant: one 746 kW / 1,000-hp PZL Kalisz (Shvetsov) ASz-62IR radial piston engine
Armament: none

Marlin SeaAeroFlyer.
http://www.fach-extraoficial.com/fotos/arado/linea_2s.jpg
Wingspan: 38' 8"
Height: 9' 11"
Length: 37' 2"
Powerplant: one 746 kW / 1,000-hp PZL Kalisz (Shvetsov) ASz-62IR
radial piston engine
Weight: 2,921 empty, 3,489 full. (no torps/DCs)
Max Speed: 278Mph, 215mph with 1 torp.
Max Range: 895 Miles loaded.
Armament: 2 .50 HMG firing forward through the prop. 2 .50 HMG
on pintle in rear navigator/bombaimer cockpit.
1 Torpedo or 3 depthcharges

Edit: Wasp II Torp plane specs (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=57626&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=320)

Japanese canards? The Shinden is Dra-pol's primary fighter at the moment (our relatively experimental Shinden Jettos were all destroyed by modern opposition. Poo.).

(I'm WoS, by the way, but there's no puppetry, Dra-pol is evvvil and exists wholly in the modern world, as much as it may object with its late/experimental WWII Japanese military technology and collectivist agriculture)

Anyway, WoS armaments are mainly here http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=51871&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 and our airforce simply does not match up to most of those flashing about here. We're closer to Erco and Calarca, but jet aircraft will be years off without Iansislian assistance (damn you, DK! Give me back my plans! :wink: )

I think our navy is increasingly out-gunned, fielding nothing beyond 15" guns not disimilar to the Ood's (which is alright, until people start flashing 18 and 21" guns- poo, again), and has no aircraft carriers, and the army, which was supposed to be our strong suit, is likely to struggle to deploy in any strength against the enemy, and still only has early war British tech.

Erm by which I mean.. "you'd better not get us mad!" hehe.

Bah, well, I like our tech, and our Lancer tanks are prettier than your tanks (or armoured cars..or elephants, depending on who's listening) (page 5 on the armaments thread)

hey, i'm thankful your army can't deploy....i'd be reduced to desperate guerilla tactics within a few weeks if it invaded me :(

Yeah, excepting for the colonial period in the C18th, which generally only required sub-divisional deployments to a couple of theatres, WoS has always been a rather defensive nation. If anyone were to directly assault Walmington they'd have to fight for every inch of it, and being proud and stubborn, WoS is unlikely to abandon colonies, even for tactical advantage, or when outnumbered, but generally the nation is slow to take a fight to anyone else. We still haven't declared war on anyone despite losing a destroyer and some trade concerns, to Hainan and DK.

I am wondering though -I think I need to get updates from Der Kriegsmarine on the situation on the continent. It may be beneficial for WoS to step in before it's too late, either to fight in France (I wonder if I imagined DK referencing the French as a still existing power? Have they fallen yet?), or reinforce the British Isles against a better plan than Sealion.

Calarca has flown it's latest fighter prototype and in entering the pre-production tooling and factory equipping stage. The Aeroflyer, Combat, Model 5. C-5 "Cyclone" Fighter is powered by a 2700Hp de-tuned version of the latest 3500Hp R-4360 engine.

http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/engines/eng34a-1.jpg

This gives our C-5 Fighter a maximum speed of 648Km/Hr

http://www.steelrat.com/assets/smla51.jpg
http://www.steelrat.com/assets/La5_2.jpg
Length: 36ft. 4in.
Height: 15ft. 1in
Wing Span: 47ft. 0in.
Empty Weight: 7,723 lbs.
Gross weight: 10,159 lbs.
Performance:
Maximum Speed: 648Kph
Cruising Speed: 546Kph
Ceiling: 35,200 ft.
Range: 678 miles
Pwerplant: One 2700Hp R-4360 28Cyl radial
Armament: Four 20mm ShVAK Cannon in wing & two 20mm ShVAK Cannon in fuselage.

Yeah, excepting for the colonial period in the C18th, which generally only required sub-divisional deployments to a couple of theatres, WoS has always been a rather defensive nation. If anyone were to directly assault Walmington they'd have to fight for every inch of it, and being proud and stubborn, WoS is unlikely to abandon colonies, even for tactical advantage, or when outnumbered, but generally the nation is slow to take a fight to anyone else. We still haven't declared war on anyone despite losing a destroyer and some trade concerns, to Hainan and DK.

I am wondering though -I think I need to get updates from Der Kriegsmarine on the situation on the continent. It may be beneficial for WoS to step in before it's too late, either to fight in France (I wonder if I imagined DK referencing the French as a still existing power? Have they fallen yet?), or reinforce the British Isles against a better plan than Sealion.Sealion was a good plan, but the person in charge of executing a key part of it, Göring, wasn't up to the job.He turned missions supposed to smash RAF air power into missions deisgned to, err, kill civvies.

Yeah, he didn't realise how close he was to crushing fighter command, I'd say, and the terror tactics were despiration moves.

Sealion though really required an over-night 100% reversal in kill ratios in the sky, and victory by barely a dozen German warships against 80 British, with four battleships up against..no battleships, in that mix. Even if they some how achieved these two things, they really would have been slaughtered on the beaches, and I've even had people try to tell me they could have gone through Ireland, which I'd have to say would have been the biggest failure since the Armada.

Meh, we'll see what Der Kriegsmarine can pull out of the bag :)

You can forget about seeing anything like Sealion coming out of MY camp, thank you very much! I'm killing off enough of my young men as it is!

(huh....would you mind my asking, then, what are the long-term German objectives in the war? Reduce Britain to a point where she'll accept German domination of the continent?)

(Nuts! If he doesn't attack Britain, then the WEF's mobilisation will have been a waste of resources, and we should have landed in France while we had the chance! As Mainwaring would say "It's a typical shabby Nazi trick!" ;) )

[the ultimate cause of the battle of britain's outcome is that Göring tied his fighters to his bombers.had they been free to strafe and bounce British planes of takeoff, they would have wiped out fighter command, but the attempts to reduce bomber losses ended up allowing the spitfires to climb and close unmolested, and they could turn inside the Me109s....once they got closein, they could maul the Luftwaffe.]