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As my first act as Prime Minister, I am herby announcing the decommission of all current AMF military personnel. Now bear with me, there is a reason. Cyberdyne Systems, AMF's top weapons manufacturing corporation, has been doing genetic experimentation over the past decade. They have systematically "redesigned" the human DNA strand. Genetic impurities have been removed, stamina has been increased as well as muscle capacity. The basic human killer instincts are amplified. Basically, AMF will comence mass breeding of these "pure soldiers" to revamp our military. Now, I say "pure" because what Cyberdyne has done is breed us a human soldier in it's purest form, no frills, no uber enhancement, just a plain and simple killing machine, what human beings once were. They are raised from day 1 to do exactly what they are told. They do not know pain, fear is unheard of, and remorse is not in their vocabulary. They are bred to fight, and fight well. Their diets are literally perfect, providing 100% of every vitamin and mineral the human body needs, while having no fat, no saturated fat, and no cholesterol. They train 18 hours a day, honing and enhancing their combat skills. Slowly over the coming years, these "pure soldiers" will replace the regular humans in our military.

We must stress that what we are doing is not inhuman, we are not torturing these people, nor are we being cruel. We are simply training an army that is better "equipped" to handle itself in combat.

More information will be released once it becomes available.



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Xelån Nengalu
-Prime Minister of AMF-

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Yes. Do they have a survival instict? i fear that some might go insane and on a killing rampage.

Yes. Do they have a survival instict? i fear that some might go insane and on a killing rampage.

Fear not, their training will prevent such acts from happening. As previously stated, their basic human instincts are enhanced, so yes, they do have survival instincts.

Damn I'd better not get on your bad side

"Remember, although something may appear perfect, its probably because you haven't found the flaw in it yet."

~Emperor of Neo-Wu

"Remember, although something may appear perfect, its probably because you haven't found the flaw in it yet."

~Emperor of Neo-Wu

Exactly, which is why testing on the first "batch" shall we say, is still in progress.


~Xel~

Are these engineered soldiers sentient? I feel that you are about to begin treading about in an ethical morass.

~Councillor Inviolus, Coordinator of Sentient Affairs

Are these engineered soldiers sentient? I feel that you are about to begin treading about in an ethical morass.

~Councillor Inviolus, Coordinator of Sentient Affairs

The community is put above the individual. They are sentient to a point, because if they were able to think too freely, that would lead to doubt in their duty's, which would mean they wouldn't preform at their optimum level. And they are not exactly "engineered", they are "pure".

~Xel~

Ayran perfect race???

Ayran perfect race???

Not the same thing. People of all races will be "bred" in this program, not just blonde haired blue eyed people.

~Xel~

"We shall support our ally AMF in this project, 100%. Any more funds needed for this endeavour can be attained from the Empire."

"We shall support our ally AMF in this project, 100%. Any more funds needed for this endeavour can be attained from the Empire."

The Empire thanks Neo-Wu for their funding.


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Xelån Nengalu
-Prime Minister of AMF-

We will provide you with(for a fee of course) a manufacturing plant in our space colony so it will be safe from attack and your new soliders will have new training ground.

While the Republic could care less about super-soldiers (for reasons we won't get into) we are concerned with the removal of a basic sentient trait: Free Will. The Republic is founded on the recognition of this trait and it's removal is disturbing. Manipulating it into the soldier is just as wrong as the state taking it away through force of arms. Thus we will consider these soldiers slaves until this is proved otherwise. If this determination continues the Republic will welcome them and grant them sanctuary despite our cordial relationship with AMF. The actions of a few misguided individuals will not be sufficient to damage our relations, but they will be cause to consider more carefully our individual dealings with AMF.

Yes. Do they have a survival instict? i fear that some might go insane and on a killing rampage.

semi-ooc: Ever seen "The Hunted?" Imagine that, but 10 times worse.

While the Republic could care less about super-soldiers (for reasons we won't get into) we are concerned with the removal of a basic sentient trait: Free Will. The Republic is founded on the recognition of this trait and it's removal is disturbing. Manipulating it into the soldier is just as wrong as the state taking it away through force of arms. Thus we will consider these soldiers slaves until this is proved otherwise. If this determination continues the Republic will welcome them and grant them sanctuary despite our cordial relationship with AMF. The actions of a few misguided individuals will not be sufficient to damage our relations, but they will be cause to consider more carefully our individual dealings with AMF.


No disrespect intended, but what your nation values does not swing here. These soldiers are not slaves. They are paid (yes, we will pay them too) protectorates of their nation, and removal of "free will" as you say is unimportant. These soldiers care not for free will, they care only for death, blood, and war. They care only for their nation and defending it's citizens. They fear nobody, and serve only their President and their nation.

These soldiers will most likley be disappointed, if they can feel such emotion, because AMF has no current plans to go off to war. We simply are "upping" our military might.



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John Kimble
-AMF Information Ministry-

Yes. Do they have a survival instict? i fear that some might go insane and on a killing rampage.

semi-ooc: Ever seen "The Hunted?" Imagine that, but 10 times worse.

OOC: Nice example.....I still haven't seen that movie the whole way through.... :(

could you look at my other post auto?

We will provide you with(for a fee of course) a manufacturing plant in our space colony so it will be safe from attack and your new soliders will have new training ground.

OOC: Sorry Celack

IC:

We accept your generous offer, and thank you.

~Xel~

The Tersanctus Senate has issued this statement:

"We approve of the AMF's contribution to the furthering of Military Power amongst the stars, may the inhabitants of that polluted muckball called Earth, think twice before claiming our sovereign territories as "there" colonies."

Ahme. He is moving into my military facility.

Ahme. He is moving into my military facility.


And this is important to our statement.........how?

No disrespect intended, but what your nation values does not swing here. These soldiers are not slaves. They are paid (yes, we will pay them too) protectorates of their nation, and removal of "free will" as you say is unimportant. These soldiers care not for free will, they care only for death, blood, and war. They care only for their nation and defending it's citizens. They fear nobody, and serve only their President and their nation.

These soldiers will most likley be disappointed, if they can feel such emotion, because AMF has no current plans to go off to war. We simply are "upping" our military might.


Of course they don't care about free will... They have none, and it has been removed. You are taking a sentient and creating a non-sentient from it. Instead of uplifting you are destroying. Essentially you are devolving. While this does not typlify your nation as a whole history and experience has taught us that those who seek to reduce sentients to instinctive creatures do not truely have their fellow sentients best interests at heart. I would urge you to examine your motives - something beyond the interest of society as a whole may lurk there.

OOC: What's with all the super-soldier projects popping up? That was big in the 80's, but I would have thought most people would have realized the fundamental flaws.

And there are no genetic flaws? Damn you got one bad ass idea there. Hope the soldiers work out for you.

Ahme. He is moving into my military facility.


And this is important to our statement.........how?"contributing military power amongst the satrs" where's my approval?

Of course they don't care about free will... They have none, and it has been removed. You are taking a sentient and creating a non-sentient from it. Instead of uplifting you are destroying. Essentially you are devolving. While this does not typlify your nation as a whole history and experience has taught us that those who seek to reduce sentients to instinctive creatures do not truely have their fellow sentients best interests at heart. I would urge you to examine your motives - something beyond the interest of society as a whole may lurk there.


As stated, they are sentient to a degree. They are not allowed to have personal feelings stunt their combat preformance, for if they are fully "sentient", they will have fear and doubt, which leads to poor combat preformance. We are not "destroying" their "sentience", we are making them a more effective killing machine.

This could be debated for hours, about who's morals are correct.


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John Kimble
-AMF Information Ministry-

Ahme. He is moving into my military facility.


And this is important to our statement.........how?"contributing military power amongst the satrs" where's my approval?

As a sovereign nation living on Tarsonis around alpha minoris beta, we need ot the appproval of any other nation or system.....

And there are no genetic flaws? Damn you got one bad ass idea there. Hope the soldiers work out for you.

If they have no genetic flaws, they do not have to worry about arthritis, diabtetes, asthma, sicle cell, or any other genetically inherited diseases.

Well if you need anything just ask and I will do my best to send it.

It certainly could be - but given your own statement 'Sentient to a degree' our reasoning stands. By removing the most important element of their sentience you have removed their sentience. They are overly trained monkeys. Since there is no way to restore their sentience we cannot consider them slaves, but we still find these notions dangerous. We advise caution.

Relations will remain open with AMF - they are your creatures and thus your choice. We simply offer our opinion.

Doesn't the body need some fat?

Doesn't the body need some fat?

Yes, but not too much.

OOC: Isn't 8% the right amount of body fat for men?

Doesn't the body need some fat?

Yes, but not too much.

OOC: Isn't 8% the right amount of body fat for men?

OOC: You do not need any fat - fat is only nessecary if you want to reproduce. Too little fat (and thus energy from it) and you don't produce enough semen to reproduce reliably.

OOC: You do not need any fat - fat is only nessecary if you want to reproduce. Too little fat (and thus energy from it) and you don't produce enough semen to reproduce reliably.

OOC: Meh, I'm no doctor. :)

OOC: You do not need any fat - fat is only nessecary if you want to reproduce. Too little fat (and thus energy from it) and you don't produce enough semen to reproduce reliably.

OOC: Meh, I'm no doctor. :)

And I could be wrong - this was what I remember from my college fitness class. Despite what teachers may think about themselves, they are often wrong.

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OOC:

*Momentary panic*

Oh, whew...

I'm assuming this is classified as "future tech"?

(Cool idea, BTW. :) )

OOC:

*Momentary panic*

Oh, whew...

I'm assuming this is classified as "future tech"?

(Cool idea, BTW. :) )

OOC: Yes, because AMF is a future tech nation. :wink:

We are considering your request for assistance.

However, weapons trade is something that We never envolve Ourselves with outside of the Triumvirate, and this borders on that.

We will discuss this among Ourselves, and will give you an answer shortly.

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Automata X1
First-of-Thirteen

Well, good going AMF, that is the same system we use for the Wohlstand Elites, which are raised from birth from parents who do not want to have their child and genetically modifed to be stronger, faster, smarter, and all that good stuff, as well as their eyes, ears, muscles, and bones, modified as well so that they can see better, hear better, become stronger and run faster and etc, and the bones are pretty much indestructible to all kinetic projectiles, flame, and all that, except lasers, and plasma. But still, good going. Its a good plan, and I might have to advance more...

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Comrade Anthony Moss
Founder and Leader of the Commonwealth of Wohlstand
"Gleichberechtigung, Frieden, Ünd Gesundheit"
Wohlstand Constitution (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=977950#977950)

Well, I must stress again that are troops are NOT uberclones, they are genetically pure. What I mean is this: all genetic diseases are removed, and some areas are increased, but not all. What makes our troops stand out is the training program we have created.


~Xel~



OOC: I've been getting some flak about how these are "uberclones". Well, THEY'RE NOT, AND I'M TIRED OF EXPLAINING IT . This wasn't directed at Wohlstand or any other person, just a general statement.

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Never said they were :)

Never said they were :)

That was a general statement, I didn't direct it at you.

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Xelån Nengalu
-Prime Minister of AMF-

OOC:
Isn't that Amy? :shock: :shock: