NationStates Jolt Archive


Griefer attack The East Pacific

1 Infinite Loop
08-06-2003, 10:43
hello, the nation of The United States of PapalExhibitionism.
has seixzed the delegate seat of the East Pcific and is in the process of booting all the nations from the region,
this si just a sampling of the attack

Seconds ago: The Free Community of Tallaganda departed this region for The Rejected Realms
* Seconds ago: The United States of PapalExhibitionism ejected The Free Community of Tallaganda from the region.
* Seconds ago: The Sultanate of Tahitian Flanders departed this region for The Rejected Realms
* Seconds ago: The United States of PapalExhibitionism ejected The Sultanate of Tahitian Flanders from the region.
* Seconds ago: The Federation of SwissPissAvarice departed this region for The Rejected Realms
* Seconds ago: The United States of PapalExhibitionism ejected The Federation of SwissPissAvarice from the region.
* Seconds ago: The Democratic States of TechnologicalFailure departed this region for The Rejected Realms
* Seconds ago: The United States of PapalExhibitionism ejected The Democratic States of TechnologicalFailure from the region.
* Seconds ago: The Queendom of TaZorro departed this region for The Rejected Realms
* Seconds ago: The United States of PapalExhibitionism ejected The Queendom of TaZorro from the region.



Regional Happenings

* Seconds ago: The Queendom of Spiral Goddess Grove arrived from The East Pacific.
* Seconds ago: The Commonwealth of Kentucky Fried States ceased to exist.
* Seconds ago: The Free Republic of Skinnies ceased to exist.
* Seconds ago: The Free Republic of Stay fire arrived from The East Pacific.
* Seconds ago: The Disputed Territories of Sumeria arrived from The East Pacific.
* Seconds ago: The Kingdom of SuburbanUnrest arrived from The East Pacific.
* Seconds ago: The Dictatorship of Stupid Trolls arrived from The East Pacific.
* 1 minute ago: The Sultanate of SwedishExpansionism arrived from The East Pacific.
* 1 minute ago: The Free Community of Tallaganda arrived from The East Pacific.
* 1 minute ago: The Sultanate of Tahitian Flanders arrived from The East Pacific.




Once I've taken over a region, can I eject everyone else?

No. Region crashing by itself is a legitimate tactic to seize power, but ejecting large numbers of nations is griefing. It can be a fine line between region crashing and griefing. Players who enjoy launching invasions should take care to stay on the right side.
The Most Glorious Hack
08-06-2003, 10:45
Good work Loop. Nobody's managed to catch one of these attacks in action.
1 Infinite Loop
08-06-2003, 10:49
here are the perpetrators


CelticResurgence, DejectedAlbanians, RiotsInKaliningrad, IrishOrthodoxy, BelarusianPanic, CubanBuddhists, AlaskanRefugees, RomanianTreedwellers, AmerindianAlcoholism, SuburbanUnrest, RadiationPoisoning, NorseFundamentalism, KentuckyAnarchists, FascistSardinia, PhallicMonuments, AntarcticAborigines, SpartanRegimentation, AutonomousVladivostok, BavarianOlympians, BasothoNavy, ScottishHordes, IsraeliImperialism, LibyanArchitecture, GallicCondescension, HispanicAstrophysics, BurmeseSuspicions, SadisticYemenis, SaudiBedouins, RomanBloodsports, GreekFanaticism, Pan-Germania, Himmleristan, IdealistScandinavians, SwedishExpansionism, NuclearKyrgyzstan, GermanicAutoSupremecy, TechnologicalFailure, NoPavedRoadsInSpain, PortugueseEconomicWoes, LasciviousDominicans, LandlockedJapan, AngloItalianAggression, FrenchDeserters, DrunkenBolsheviks, GreaterLiechtenstein, CanadianSaboteurs, CatholicHypocrisy, IslamicMisogyny, Muehlacker, Mittelmeer, PunkIslam, BiblicalFallacy, AmericanShantytowns, KasparovHatesArmenians, SocialistDegeneration, NaziSubInTheChesapeake, BosnianVassal, PolnischeUntermenschen, PeruvianCannibals, JapRitualisticSuicide, FireOnTheVolga, NorwegianOppression, CrimeanInsurgence, Franco-PrussianBlowout, SwissPissAvarice, Finlandia7, CrossTheRubicon, BerlinerMauer, HungarianSubservients, IcelandicSupermen, SicSemperTyrannis, SS-Rheinland

I thank you for the kind compliment, I am an insomniac, lol, I guess my Insomnia paid off for a change.
The Most Glorious Hack
08-06-2003, 10:52
Heh... I work nights, I'm just not in the RR, so I never see the after effects.

*waits for another round modbombs for UN multi's*
The Most Glorious Hack
08-06-2003, 10:54
Hm...

World Factbook Entry: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA You lose, 1 Infinite Loop

UN Delegate: The United States of PapalExhibitionism.

*boggle*
Suntory
08-06-2003, 10:55
Multis are what they obviously are. They are mostly 7-8 million in population, with names lacking spaces. 50 multis is rather prolific... nice to see someone enjoys the game so much. :wink:
1 Infinite Loop
08-06-2003, 10:56
I just hope the mods find the list I posted useful.
and I hope they are able to restore those of us wrongfuly booted.
08-06-2003, 10:59
THE EAST PACIFIC IS FREE

You call me a griefer, Loop?! That's like Povoratti calling Calista Flockhart fat!

We have liberated the East Pacific. That goal we set so long ago has been realized. 1 Infinite Loop, you booted any UN nation that was not endorsing you so you could keep The East Pacific in your iron fist. But no more! We will remove every UN member, then leave the region so that the region may have a clean slate and can grow as [violet] intended.
Vthnaar
08-06-2003, 11:00
THE EAST PACIFIC IS FREE

You call me a griefer, Loop?! That's like Povoratti calling Calista Flockhart fat!

We have liberated the East Pacific. That goal we set so long ago has been realized. 1 Infinite Loop, you booted any UN nation that was not endorsing you so you could keep The East Pacific in your iron fist. But no more! We will remove every UN member, then leave the region so that the region may have a clean slate and can grow as [violet] intended.

What you did was griefing, you'll likely be deleted.

Especially when the mods find your UN multies that you used to do it.
08-06-2003, 11:01
Loop, I'm on it right now. With a list that big it'll take a while to prove who's multis and so on, but give me about half an hour and something should have been done.
Vthnaar
08-06-2003, 11:02
Not to mention Loop's status as delegate will be restored.

All you accomplished was making a little work for the mods, and booting loop out of his region for a few hours.
08-06-2003, 11:03
It's not multying. I created most of those nations the other day and assigned them to my soldiers. From there, they joined them up in the UN and we coordinated the strike. So not only were you deposed, Loop, but it was done completely within the rules!
Suntory
08-06-2003, 11:04
I somehow find this level of coordination and secrecy among 50-odd people hard to swallow, but let's see what the mods find. Good luck, guys.
Vthnaar
08-06-2003, 11:04
It's not multying. I created most of those nations the other day and assigned them to my soldiers. From there, they joined them up in the UN and we coordinated the strike. So not only were you deposed, Loop, but it was done completely within the rules!

Bullshit.
The Most Glorious Hack
08-06-2003, 11:07
Doesn't much matter. It's still griefing, and you can still be deleted for it.

Have a shitty day.
1 Infinite Loop
08-06-2003, 11:10
THE EAST PACIFIC IS FREE

You call me a griefer, Loop?! That's like Povoratti calling Calista Flockhart fat!

We have liberated the East Pacific. That goal we set so long ago has been realized. 1 Infinite Loop, you booted any UN nation that was not endorsing you so you could keep The East Pacific in your iron fist. But no more! We will remove every UN member, then leave the region so that the region may have a clean slate and can grow as [violet] intended.

Dude FYI I never Booted anyone for not supporting me, that piece of the factbook was left over from a previous delegate, if you checked our forum you would have seen a complete list of everyone I have booted and the reasons why.

anyone who wishes to check it out here is the address
http://invisionfree.com/forums/The_East_Pacific/index.php

and yes I happen to knw exactly what a griefer is, I have read the faq and I was a member of the first and most successful region invasion group out there.
you have attacked a peaceloving region, and are a griefing cheater.

alos the NSFlag service is still online, please post your rewquests in the East Pcific forum
Suntory
08-06-2003, 11:11
An interesting fact for all of you in this and all other cases of recent mass booting: a delegate can boot people and still have his last activity time xx minutes/hours/days ago. You'll find if you look right now that PapalExhibitionism is booting people left and right, but that his last gov't activity is about 45 minutes ago. Curious.
1 Infinite Loop
08-06-2003, 11:12
Loop, I'm on it right now. With a list that big it'll take a while to prove who's multis and so on, but give me about half an hour and something should have been done.

Enodia, I thank you *bows*
I only wish I had a complete list of member nations and all for you to go by to restore us.

I also wish I had been able to get that warning to Melkor soon enough.
Anbar
08-06-2003, 11:19
It's not multying. I created most of those nations the other day and assigned them to my soldiers. From there, they joined them up in the UN and we coordinated the strike. So not only were you deposed, Loop, but it was done completely within the rules!

That has to be the biggest load of horsesh-t I've ever heard. Your soldiers? Right...
Suntory
08-06-2003, 11:21
The moderators have erased two of these "soldiers" so far. I think, at this point, that the invasion was less than legit.
1 Infinite Loop
08-06-2003, 11:23
ok this is weird, IE jsut froze on me, and when I restarted it, it showed e wearing the flag I made for New Mozambique, I havnt had that flag on in like three days. lol
Suntory
08-06-2003, 11:27
It's the hacker! He hacked your flag!
08-06-2003, 11:28
It's not multying. I created most of those nations the other day and assigned them to my soldiers. From there, they joined them up in the UN and we coordinated the strike. So not only were you deposed, Loop, but it was done completely within the rules!

Yeah....riiiight! :roll:
08-06-2003, 11:50
Done. Big thanks to loop for providing the endorsement list to work through - all 74 or so nations involved have been dealt with. What's more, there were a couple of other nations not on that list which were multis in the same spawn. The total was probably around 80 all told.

All in all - a textbook example of how not to cheat. Each nation's UN ID led on to the next one on the endorsement list.
Suntory
08-06-2003, 11:54
Well done Enodia. Shall I start a "ENODIA MAKES ME SO MAD!!1! HE SHOULD NOT BE A MOD" thread in celebration?

Are you going to make Loopy the delegate, or just remove the ban list?
08-06-2003, 11:54
In terms of the original nations wanting back in, I'm not sure if the region got password protected (or even if the Pacifics can be). I guess the easiest way would be to let them all know by telegram or on the offsite forum, Loop. Sorry I can't do much about it with my mod powers.

EDIT: Just found out how to remove the ban list, so everyone can come back in. Nothing beats learning on the job.
08-06-2003, 11:55
:shock: EIGHTY?
08-06-2003, 11:57
:shock: EIGHTY?

Mmmhmm. 73 or so on that list, plus another 5 at least connected to them but not involved in the griefing.
08-06-2003, 12:03
:shock: EIGHTY?

Mmmhmm. 73 or so on that list, plus another 5 at least connected to them but not involved in the griefing.

Whoah. So that's the new official record, right? Not the other one with.. um... I forget how many multis, but something like almost fifty, was it?
08-06-2003, 12:06
Rep caught somebody with 48 multis early last month, that's probably the one you're talking about.
What's even more ironic about this one is that a lot of the nations would've been deleted anyway for inappropriate mottos or names in the fullness of time, even without the multi-ing.
08-06-2003, 12:11
Mmmmmyep, that's the one.

Maybe we should have a "Hall Of Shame" where it simply lists the offences of people like this? Names need not be mentioned, but it'd be cool to look back and say, gee, THAT was against the rules, and laugh...

Don't mind me. My train of thought sometimes carries shipments of toxic waste when I'm about to use my keyboard as a pillow.

Like now.

Anyway, thanks, Enodia -- I'm glad you're a mod and that you're online and kicking aft right now.... it makes the site feel safer somehow. :)

Peace. 8)
08-06-2003, 12:14
A Hall of Shame could be an interesting idea. MagicCrater would be there, and Zoland/Perrier/Most Moral Order, Nikolaykraina and all his constituent parts...
1 Infinite Loop
08-06-2003, 12:14
Enodia, the pacifics cannot be passworded. I think I have list of the nations who endorsed me as of a couple of days ago.
08-06-2003, 12:16
Bingo. Well, they're all welcome to return now that the ban list is cleared (at least it should be cleared). I'd welcome them myself, but I have to try to get some sleep.
1 Infinite Loop
08-06-2003, 12:19
Bingo. Well, they're all welcome to return now that the ban list is cleared (at least it should be cleared). I'd welcome them myself, but I have to try to get some sleep.

Enodia, I thank you and I have reason to believe all of the East Pacific thanks you eel free to drop by for a visit anytime you want.


also Enodia, you might find this useful, one of my allies in one of the other pacifics sent it to me the other day


The Ultimate Alliance


23 hours ago The Kingdom of Taniquetil
everybody listen up. on sunday june 8th move to the east pacific. grunstsburg will stay here as the delegate. the rest of us will endorse samulesen and take it over. we will stay there and get eveyrone to move to the ultimate alliance. their delegate has 35 endorsements, so we will need at least 36 of you. the region has over 2000 nations so this will be a major victory for us. we cant try to overcome the north south and west pacifics like this because their dlegates have too many endorsements. so make sure you can all show up.

possibly a good lead as to the multi's identity.

well Im gonna try to get some sleep.

~Loop
Beachcomber
08-06-2003, 14:05
It's not multying. I created most of those nations the other day and assigned them to my soldiers. From there, they joined them up in the UN and we coordinated the strike. So not only were you deposed, Loop, but it was done completely within the rules!

This would have been a nice plan...too bad he cheated instead. No honor in that.
1 Infinite Loop
08-06-2003, 21:57
[bump] for the people of the East Pacific
08-06-2003, 22:04
Okay. He had no life.

Oh and by the way, I didn't like being booted from The East Pacific for warning you of Gres's plan.
08-06-2003, 22:21
Okay. He had no life.

There's someone with a couple hundred nations... although they weren't UN Multis. Now that guy has no life.
09-06-2003, 00:13
nah, you're not serious.
Beachcomber
09-06-2003, 00:24
Shouldn't Loop be reinstated as the delegate, to prevent the natural course of the game from being altered by a cheater?
09-06-2003, 00:27
Nope. Let's organise elections.
1 Infinite Loop
09-06-2003, 00:28
Okay. He had no life.

Oh and by the way, I didn't like being booted from The East Pacific for warning you of Gres's plan.

actually Gres TM'ed me and emailed me at the flag service before he even let his plans be known to anyone else,

you were booted because of Intel I was given by two other nations, that I have been asked to keep in strictest confidence.
1 Infinite Loop
09-06-2003, 00:30
Nope. Let's organise elections.

actually an actual election system would be cool,
you use your endorsements to get into the election que and on the apointed day (either by violet of fonder, such as the founder having the ability to set elections for each week or every two weeks ect.)
everyone in teh region is allowed to vote, UN and non UN, (1 vote per IP though).

jsut an idea
1 Infinite Loop
09-06-2003, 00:31
Shouldn't Loop be reinstated as the delegate, to prevent the natural course of the game from being altered by a cheater?

that has been the status quoe so far as I understand.
09-06-2003, 00:33
The moderators have erased two of these "soldiers" so far. I think, at this point, that the invasion was less than legit.

Well even if he wasn;t cheating with using Multis, he was cheating by mass booting.
09-06-2003, 00:34
It's not multying. I created most of those nations the other day and assigned them to my soldiers. From there, they joined them up in the UN and we coordinated the strike. So not only were you deposed, Loop, but it was done completely within the rules!

Yeah....riiiight! :roll:

Funny that this reeks of BS to Everyone on everyside of the issue...
09-06-2003, 00:35
Done. Big thanks to loop for providing the endorsement list to work through - all 74 or so nations involved have been dealt with. What's more, there were a couple of other nations not on that list which were multis in the same spawn. The total was probably around 80 all told.

All in all - a textbook example of how not to cheat. Each nation's UN ID led on to the next one on the endorsement list.

Very thourough job, thanks.
09-06-2003, 00:36
Rep caught somebody with 48 multis early last month, that's probably the one you're talking about.
What's even more ironic about this one is that a lot of the nations would've been deleted anyway for inappropriate mottos or names in the fullness of time, even without the multi-ing.

So, everyone knows that this is Gres, right?
09-06-2003, 00:36
Or at least, he was the matermind behindit, I am assumiong he ran the nations as well.
09-06-2003, 00:38
Okay. He had no life.

Oh and by the way, I didn't like being booted from The East Pacific for warning you of Gres's plan.

That's aint right. That said, Loop has been wired about the invasion, so I am sure this was a mistake...
1 Infinite Loop
09-06-2003, 00:41
Rep caught somebody with 48 multis early last month, that's probably the one you're talking about.
What's even more ironic about this one is that a lot of the nations would've been deleted anyway for inappropriate mottos or names in the fullness of time, even without the multi-ing.

So, everyone knows that this is Gres, right?

this too was pointed out to me in several telegrams, that it was part of gres's plan to take the region because he knew he couldnt take it legally,
also if he were truly trying to be fair in it as he claims :roll: he would have called off the attack in light of this event, all fingers and signs point to one thing the cheater :arrow: Gres.

~Loop
09-06-2003, 01:01
Well, can't the mods at least copare Gres's IP with all the other nations to tell if this was Gres that was the Multi or not?
Kandarin
09-06-2003, 01:22
I doubt that this was Gres. He doesn't have the obnoxiousness of a cheater.
09-06-2003, 01:24
It would be unfair to base guilt or innocense on anyone because you like or don;t like them.

That said, Gres has been very vocal about his plans on attacking The
East Pacific. It would only make since for the mods to check the cheater Ip with Gres'.
1 Infinite Loop
09-06-2003, 01:54
well I think this proves who initianted the attak last night,
Gres is guilty


42 minutes ago The Federation of RR Army ~OFFICIAL ORDERS~
____________________________________
Follow Kandarin into attack immediately.
____________________________________

GRES

11 minutes ago The Federation of RR Army THE RR IS ATTACKING THE EAST PACIFIC NOW. ALL NATIONS ARE TO MOVE THERE IMMEDIATELY!!! ONCE THERE ENDORSE KANDARIN.

Gres

11 minutes ago The Federation of RR Army THE RR IS ATTACKING THE EAST PACIFIC NOW. ALL NATIONS ARE TO MOVE THERE IMMEDIATELY!!! ONCE THERE ENDORSE KANDARIN.

Gres

11 minutes ago The Federation of RR Army THE RR IS ATTACKING THE EAST PACIFIC NOW. ALL NATIONS ARE TO MOVE THERE IMMEDIATELY!!! ONCE THERE ENDORSE KANDARIN.

Gres
Kandarin
09-06-2003, 01:58
well I think this proves who initianted the attak last night,
Gres is guilty


42 minutes ago The Federation of RR Army ~OFFICIAL ORDERS~
____________________________________
Follow Kandarin into attack immediately.
____________________________________

GRES

11 minutes ago The Federation of RR Army THE RR IS ATTACKING THE EAST PACIFIC NOW. ALL NATIONS ARE TO MOVE THERE IMMEDIATELY!!! ONCE THERE ENDORSE KANDARIN.

Gres

11 minutes ago The Federation of RR Army THE RR IS ATTACKING THE EAST PACIFIC NOW. ALL NATIONS ARE TO MOVE THERE IMMEDIATELY!!! ONCE THERE ENDORSE KANDARIN.

Gres

11 minutes ago The Federation of RR Army THE RR IS ATTACKING THE EAST PACIFIC NOW. ALL NATIONS ARE TO MOVE THERE IMMEDIATELY!!! ONCE THERE ENDORSE KANDARIN.

Gres

What you say is nonsense. We took advantage of your weakness, but we're not responsible for it.
09-06-2003, 02:16
well I think this proves who initianted the attak last night,
Gres is guilty


42 minutes ago The Federation of RR Army ~OFFICIAL ORDERS~
____________________________________
Follow Kandarin into attack immediately.
____________________________________

GRES

11 minutes ago The Federation of RR Army THE RR IS ATTACKING THE EAST PACIFIC NOW. ALL NATIONS ARE TO MOVE THERE IMMEDIATELY!!! ONCE THERE ENDORSE KANDARIN.

Gres

11 minutes ago The Federation of RR Army THE RR IS ATTACKING THE EAST PACIFIC NOW. ALL NATIONS ARE TO MOVE THERE IMMEDIATELY!!! ONCE THERE ENDORSE KANDARIN.

Gres

11 minutes ago The Federation of RR Army THE RR IS ATTACKING THE EAST PACIFIC NOW. ALL NATIONS ARE TO MOVE THERE IMMEDIATELY!!! ONCE THERE ENDORSE KANDARIN.

Gres

Ohh, so Kanadarin's opinion of Gres' moral stance is a bit skewed... I am not suprised.

If Kanadarin was honest theyt would have admitted to being part of the attack, for standing up for a potential cheater.
09-06-2003, 02:18
well I think this proves who initianted the attak last night,
Gres is guilty


42 minutes ago The Federation of RR Army ~OFFICIAL ORDERS~
____________________________________
Follow Kandarin into attack immediately.
____________________________________

GRES

11 minutes ago The Federation of RR Army THE RR IS ATTACKING THE EAST PACIFIC NOW. ALL NATIONS ARE TO MOVE THERE IMMEDIATELY!!! ONCE THERE ENDORSE KANDARIN.

Gres

11 minutes ago The Federation of RR Army THE RR IS ATTACKING THE EAST PACIFIC NOW. ALL NATIONS ARE TO MOVE THERE IMMEDIATELY!!! ONCE THERE ENDORSE KANDARIN.

Gres

11 minutes ago The Federation of RR Army THE RR IS ATTACKING THE EAST PACIFIC NOW. ALL NATIONS ARE TO MOVE THERE IMMEDIATELY!!! ONCE THERE ENDORSE KANDARIN.

Gres

What you say is nonsense. We took advantage of your weakness, but we're not responsible for it.

By "Our" weaknes that your group is not responsibile for.... is the weakness in question having multiple nations in the UN, or mass-booting citizens..... It seems odd that you would call these two issues our weakness.
Pilmour
09-06-2003, 02:31
Whoop some RRA butt.
09-06-2003, 03:01
I don't know if Gres and the multis were one and the same, but Gres linked up to another couple of multis and consequently has bid a tearful farewell to the UN.
Kandarin
09-06-2003, 03:33
well I think this proves who initianted the attak last night,
Gres is guilty


42 minutes ago The Federation of RR Army ~OFFICIAL ORDERS~
____________________________________
Follow Kandarin into attack immediately.
____________________________________

GRES

11 minutes ago The Federation of RR Army THE RR IS ATTACKING THE EAST PACIFIC NOW. ALL NATIONS ARE TO MOVE THERE IMMEDIATELY!!! ONCE THERE ENDORSE KANDARIN.

Gres

11 minutes ago The Federation of RR Army THE RR IS ATTACKING THE EAST PACIFIC NOW. ALL NATIONS ARE TO MOVE THERE IMMEDIATELY!!! ONCE THERE ENDORSE KANDARIN.

Gres

11 minutes ago The Federation of RR Army THE RR IS ATTACKING THE EAST PACIFIC NOW. ALL NATIONS ARE TO MOVE THERE IMMEDIATELY!!! ONCE THERE ENDORSE KANDARIN.

Gres

Ohh, so Kanadarin's opinion of Gres' moral stance is a bit skewed... I am not suprised.

If Kanadarin was honest theyt would have admitted to being part of the attack, for standing up for a potential cheater.

Being part of the attack?

Mods, please double-check the IP on the griefer. You'll find that I'm innocent.
Spaam
09-06-2003, 03:37
Um, Kandarin, the orders were to endorse YOU, to make YOU delegate. Thus you were part of the invasion.
09-06-2003, 03:50
I can't find anything concretely linking Kandarin to either Gres and co. or to PapalExhibitionism and co. The two groups appear to have been separate but possibly allied.
At a guess, I'd suggest that the invaders simply picked Kandarin as a convenient target for their endorsements, although - without any offence being meant - I'm going to be watching Kandarin pretty closely for the next few days.
1 Infinite Loop
09-06-2003, 03:52
I don't know if Gres and the multis were one and the same, but Gres linked up to another couple of multis and consequently has bid a tearful farewell to the UN.

PRAISE BE TO ENODIA!!!
09-06-2003, 04:15
this is incredible. Gres told me himself yesterday that he prefers to play within the rules of the game!

Repeal Enodia!
Down with the totalitarian admin!
:x
Khalil Sa'ab
Kandarin
09-06-2003, 04:20
Here's an interesting piece of evidence toward who the griefer was. If fact, it's pretty damning:

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From Message
The Republic of 0-_-0
Received: 9 minutes ago At this rate, you will not capture the East Pacific by the update. However, despite last night's losses, I have enough troops to put Kandarin over the top, should you desire such support. We are not allies, but rather, we have a common enemy in 1 Infinite Loop.

If you want the additional endorsements required to become delegate, please notify me very shortly.

(this message is being sent to RR Army, Gres, and Kandarin)

-------------------------------------------

This nation resembles the known griefer -_-. It's possible that these attacks are related to the earlier string of large-scale griefings. This nation's actions should be investigated by a mod.
Kandarin
09-06-2003, 04:30
Since I turned down 0-_-0, he sent me the following 10 friendly telegrams:

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

The Republic of 0-_-0
Received: 5 minutes ago Well asshole, you just signed your own death warrent.
The Republic of 0-_-0
Received: 5 minutes ago Well asshole, you just signed your own death warrent.
The Republic of 0-_-0
Received: 5 minutes ago Well asshole, you just signed your own death warrent.
The Republic of 0-_-0
Received: 5 minutes ago Well asshole, you just signed your own death warrent.
The Republic of 0-_-0
Received: 5 minutes ago Well asshole, you just signed your own death warrent.
The Republic of 0-_-0
Received: 5 minutes ago Well asshole, you just signed your own death warrent.
The Republic of 0-_-0
Received: 5 minutes ago Well asshole, you just signed your own death warrent.
The Republic of 0-_-0
Received: 5 minutes ago Well asshole, you just signed your own death warrent.
The Republic of 0-_-0
Received: 5 minutes ago Well asshole, you just signed your own death warrent.
The Republic of 0-_-0
Received: 5 minutes ago Well asshole, you just signed your own death warrent

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09-06-2003, 05:09
Gres' friends are planning a "complicated attack" in response to Gres being found out as a multi.

I say to them now, both IC and OOC, that they've picked the wrong nation to mess with. Enodia will personally destroy anyone trying to retaliate for the ejection or deletion of a multi.
Ackbar
09-06-2003, 05:14
Shouldn't Loop be reinstated as the delegate, to prevent the natural course of the game from being altered by a cheater?

That has been the MO for regions hit by booting thus far hasn't it?
Ackbar
09-06-2003, 05:15
I don't know if Gres and the multis were one and the same, but Gres linked up to another couple of multis and consequently has bid a tearful farewell to the UN.

So he has been a multi in the past. I guess it must have been a one-time occurance, I hope if it happened more then one time that he would be booted from the game.

That said, I now especially hope someone who can run a MULTI test compares his info to the others....
Ackbar
09-06-2003, 05:18
this is incredible. Gres told me himself yesterday that he prefers to play within the rules of the game!

Repeal Enodia!
Down with the totalitarian admin!
:x
Khalil Sa'ab

Yes, we should always take everyone at their word.

Also, isn't it furstrating when you see people using multiple accounts to log onto the forums in order to make it seem that they have a stronger postion.

Not saying Kale is one of the other nations who have only visited this forum to post on this particualr thread, just saying it looks suspicous.
Ackbar
09-06-2003, 05:18
this is incredible. Gres told me himself yesterday that he prefers to play within the rules of the game!

Repeal Enodia!
Down with the totalitarian admin!
:x
Khalil Sa'ab

Yes, we should always take everyone at their word.

Also, isn't it furstrating when you see people using multiple accounts to log onto the forums in order to make it seem that they have a stronger postion.

Not saying Kale is one of the other nations who have only visited this forum to post on this particualr thread, just saying it looks suspicous.
Ackbar
09-06-2003, 05:19
this is incredible. Gres told me himself yesterday that he prefers to play within the rules of the game!

Repeal Enodia!
Down with the totalitarian admin!
:x
Khalil Sa'ab

Yes, we should always take everyone at their word.

Also, isn't it furstrating when you see people using multiple accounts to log onto the forums in order to make it seem that they have a stronger postion.

Not saying Kale is one of the other nations who have only visited this forum to post on this particualr thread, just saying it looks suspicous.
09-06-2003, 05:19
To clarify what's happened with Gres:

He linked to 2 other nations (which also linked to each other). The check showed that they'd all logged in quite recently, which demonstrates that this wasn't a case of "but I didn't know it was the rule back then". All 3 nations involved have been ejected from the UN, and now Gres' followers don't much like me (hmmm...why could this possibly be?).
Ackbar
09-06-2003, 05:24
Gres' friends are planning a "complicated attack" in response to Gres being found out as a multi.

I say to them now, both IC and OOC, that they've picked the wrong nation to mess with. Enodia will personally destroy anyone trying to retaliate for the ejection or deletion of a multi.

Glad to hear that, too bad you gotta come on strong to keep some people honest.
Ackbar
09-06-2003, 05:24
To clarify what's happened with Gres:

He linked to 2 other nations (which also linked to each other). The check showed that they'd all logged in quite recently, which demonstrates that this wasn't a case of "but I didn't know it was the rule back then". All 3 nations involved have been ejected from the UN, and now Gres' followers don't much like me (hmmm...why could this possibly be?).

What region are you in? I want to be sure to look out for fireworks.
09-06-2003, 05:40
Mitteleuropa.

I've locked it down with a password for now, and the Rejected Realms are losing UN members by the handful.
Ackbar
09-06-2003, 05:46
What a bunch of idiots. They probably consider themselves succesfull as well.
1 Infinite Loop
09-06-2003, 05:49
Mitteleuropa.

I've locked it down with a password for now, and the Rejected Realms are losing UN members by the handful.

hey Enodia, mind if I move a nation in there,
1 Infinite Loop
09-06-2003, 05:52
by hte way Enodia, if you want a custom flag, let me know and I will be happy ot make one for you. jsut email me and give me a description, you should be able to see my email address, if not let me know and I will give it to ya.

~Loop
Kandarin
09-06-2003, 06:11
Enodia

Please don't confuse the RRA with Gres' UN multis and serial griefing. We're all individual nations, who were trying to conduct a non-griefing regional takeover, which is perfectly legal. I seriously thought that the griefer attack on The East Pacific this morning was just a random thing caused by some random psycho.

Please don't punish me and the RRA for Gres' crimes; Unlike Gres, we did not break any rules.
Ackbar
09-06-2003, 06:27
For the most part, the mods are fair. They are going to investigate, and if there is sticky evidence linking you to this case of cheating, then they will take you on from there.

That said, I think you chose a bad person to follow.
Ackbar
09-06-2003, 06:31
That said, every other example I have seen of this in the past has resulted in the Mods giving the UN DEL back his post.

I don't know why this has not been granted to Loop yet. I knwo this isn't a playing favorites issue, Hell Shoel was even apponted founder after he was kicked out by the same group.
09-06-2003, 06:55
Status Update:

I'm running through the Realms and removing any UN multis around the way. If you're a legitimate player who just happens to be there for whatever reason, you've got nothing to fear.
After I've negated the actual threat, I'll give Loop his delegate post back.
Anyone wanting to come to Mitteleuropa (for any non-griefing reason, lord only knows why you'd want to) telegram me for the password and I might give it out.
Ackbar
09-06-2003, 07:12
Thank you for granting Loop his UN DEl position back, I guess my long post ona new thread was not needed.... Thx.
1 Infinite Loop
09-06-2003, 07:15
Status Update:

I'm running through the Realms and removing any UN multis around the way. If you're a legitimate player who just happens to be there for whatever reason, you've got nothing to fear.
After I've negated the actual threat, I'll give Loop his delegate post back.
Anyone wanting to come to Mitteleuropa (for any non-griefing reason, lord only knows why you'd want to) telegram me for the password and I might give it out.

Enodia, if I visit it will be under the name 2 Infinite Loop, and I will be wearing a flag I amke for you, jsut tell me what you want, and I will try my best to make it.

and I thank you for your help in this crisis

~loop
09-06-2003, 07:53
I havent got but one nation in the UN, and idle threats should not be considered into the equation!

Give me a real outer-game reason that I was ejected from the UN.

Isnt Austrailia a democracy like the US?
09-06-2003, 08:03
I havent got but one nation in the UN, and idle threats should not be considered into the equation!

Give me a real outer-game reason that I was ejected from the UN.

Isnt Austrailia a democracy like the US?

I haven't taken your idle threats into account, what I've taken into account is what the UN Check comes up with. If you want me to take your idle threats into account, you'd be out on your ear with a recommendation for an IP ban - so you see, I'm being quite nice to you.
The real reason you were kicked out of the UN is that you were linked to several other UN members.

Is Australia a democracy? Well, sometimes I ask myself the same question. But it's irrelevant - you know where we are right now? We're in the Dictatorship of Max Barry and the President himself has given me orders to fight crime.
Vthnaar
09-06-2003, 08:13
I havent got but one nation in the UN, and idle threats should not be considered into the equation!

Give me a real outer-game reason that I was ejected from the UN.

Isnt Austrailia a democracy like the US?

Nationstates is not a democracy.
Ackbar
09-06-2003, 08:20
I havent got but one nation in the UN, and idle threats should not be considered into the equation!

Give me a real outer-game reason that I was ejected from the UN.

Isnt Austrailia a democracy like the US?

I haven't taken your idle threats into account, what I've taken into account is what the UN Check comes up with. If you want me to take your idle threats into account, you'd be out on your ear with a recommendation for an IP ban - so you see, I'm being quite nice to you.
The real reason you were kicked out of the UN is that you were linked to several other UN members.

Is Australia a democracy? Well, sometimes I ask myself the same question. But it's irrelevant - you know where we are right now? We're in the Dictatorship of Max Barry and the President himself has given me orders to fight crime.


Strong post. I just wanted to comment so I could highlight my favorite part of this thread so far:

We're in the Dictatorship of Max Barry and the President himself has given me orders to fight crime.
09-06-2003, 08:32
There's a new sheriff in town.
09-06-2003, 08:48
I'm more of a secret policeman, myself - but call it as you will.
Ackbar
09-06-2003, 09:08
I'm more of a secret policeman, myself - but call it as you will.

I believe the term you're looking for is Gestapo, Enodia.

Oh, and I just got this it my TM box:

NationStates Moderators
Received: 3 minutes ago This is your one and only warning to cease flaming.

Seems the mods (well, Enodia, at least) will tolerate no dissent. That's right, critize them and it's off to the concentration camps with you!

I don't think you should be kicked from the game or the UN or anything like that. That said, you are posting foolishly tonight.
Anbar
09-06-2003, 09:30
Christ, read the entire thread before you chime in with your assinine comments. I said facetiously that the game mods cart dissenters off to concentration camps, and Ackbar replied by telling me not to disgrace the memory of those who died in the Holocaust. Now go stand in the corner for ten minutes.

Anbar, not Ackbar. Please read more carefully.

Heh, sorry. Force of habit.

Understandable, my domain's the General forum. I'm just visiting.
Vthnaar
09-06-2003, 09:40
Grow the fuck up, MIC.

Attacks on spelling is the last desperate act of someone with no ground to stand on.
09-06-2003, 09:44
Grow the f--- up, MIC.

Attacks on spelling is the last desperate act of someone with no ground to stand on.

Oh, attacks on spelling are out of bounds? Well here's an attack on your grammar. The subject of your sentence is plural, yet you conjugate the verb as though it were third-person singular.

Just letting you know that you've lost all credibility by the time the reader gets to the fourth word of your post.
Spaam
09-06-2003, 09:44
Listen, I don't care whether you're the current spelling champion of your third grade class. That means nothing.

And how am I abusing the English language? By using words you don't understand or by calling you asshead?

Haha. Droll. I haven't been in school for a while.

Word I don't understand? It is quite possible that you might in the future, but up to now you have not. No, you demostrated the abuse I accuse of right there. One need not sprinkle their speech with such vulgarities.
Spaam
09-06-2003, 09:45
Grow the f--- up, MIC.

Attacks on spelling is the last desperate act of someone with no ground to stand on.

Oh, attacks on spelling are out of bounds? Well here's an attack on your grammar. The subject of your sentence is plural, yet you conjugate the verb as though it were third-person singular.

Just letting you know that you've lost all credibility by the time the reader gets to the fourth word of your post.

In that case, will you please put a space after your ellipses? Because that really bugs me.
09-06-2003, 09:46
Is Australia a democracy? Well, sometimes I ask myself the same question. But it's irrelevant - you know where we are right now? We're in the Dictatorship of Max Barry and the President himself has given me orders to fight crime.

MAX (or Enodia) for GG !!!
09-06-2003, 09:50
Grow the f--- up, MIC.

Attacks on spelling is the last desperate act of someone with no ground to stand on.

Oh, attacks on spelling are out of bounds? Well here's an attack on your grammar. The subject of your sentence is plural, yet you conjugate the verb as though it were third-person singular.

Just letting you know that you've lost all credibility by the time the reader gets to the fourth word of your post.

In that case, will you please put a space after your ellipses? Because that really bugs me.

Please do not confuse grammar with punctuation... Better?
Spaam
09-06-2003, 09:51
Is Australia a democracy? Well, sometimes I ask myself the same question. But it's irrelevant - you know where we are right now? We're in the Dictatorship of Max Barry and the President himself has given me orders to fight crime.

MAX (or Enodia) for GG !!!

Hell no. Dame Edna Everage for GG :D
Hey, we just had a paedophile, so there should be nothing wrong with having a cross-dresser ;)
Spaam
09-06-2003, 09:52
Grow the f--- up, MIC.

Attacks on spelling is the last desperate act of someone with no ground to stand on.

Oh, attacks on spelling are out of bounds? Well here's an attack on your grammar. The subject of your sentence is plural, yet you conjugate the verb as though it were third-person singular.

Just letting you know that you've lost all credibility by the time the reader gets to the fourth word of your post.

In that case, will you please put a space after your ellipses? Because that really bugs me.

Please do not confuse grammar with punctuation... Better?

Much. Surely pedanticism was allowed? It seemed to have been from your previous posts :)
Vthnaar
09-06-2003, 10:07
Grow the f--- up, MIC.

Attacks on spelling is the last desperate act of someone with no ground to stand on.

Oh, attacks on spelling are out of bounds? Well here's an attack on your grammar. The subject of your sentence is plural, yet you conjugate the verb as though it were third-person singular.

Just letting you know that you've lost all credibility by the time the reader gets to the fourth word of your post.

Thank you for supporting my argument.
Vthnaar
09-06-2003, 10:16
http://invisionfree.com:54/40/9/upload/post-9-1054344675.jpg

Please ignore Moron In Chains. He has no argument, and is just posting to get attention. Do not feed the troll.
09-06-2003, 10:28
http://drake.5p.org.uk/melkor.jpg

That's the best use of MSPaint I've seen since Thalami's penis flag.
Spaam
09-06-2003, 10:31
http://drake.5p.org.uk/melkor.jpg

That's the best use of MSPaint I've seen since Thalami's penis flag.

Is that meant to be an insult?
Anbar
09-06-2003, 10:45
Actually, one of the most entertaining things to come out of the 3rd recih was anti-Jewish propaganda. Damn funny stuff, because it's so incredibly ridiculous. Horrible in its aims, but isolated from that and just viewed as a movie, you can get a good laugh from it.

Evidently, someone's never seen Der Ewige Jude.

Hast du eine Hakennase?

(thinks back to Otto der Liebesfilm)

... Nevermind.

Actually, yes, I have seen it. I'd say it's a toss up between that and Jude Suss for which is funnier. We played a drinking game to Jude Suss (take an extra drink when Suss takes half the guy's house). It's all just so absurd, it's easy to forget what it contributed to.

And no, I'm willing to bet I'm more Aryan than you are.
Reploid Productions
09-06-2003, 10:52
*fires a Threadsplitter missile at the thread. The bulk of the discussion on German stuff is now in the General forum*

... I need to build and render a Threadsplitter missile :lol:
Anbar
09-06-2003, 10:53
*fires a Threadsplitter missile at the thread. The bulk of the discussion on German stuff is now in the General forum*

... I need to build and render a Threadsplitter missile :lol:

Yeah, that was desperately needed...
09-06-2003, 10:55
Actually, one of the most entertaining things to come out of the 3rd recih was anti-Jewish propaganda. Damn funny stuff, because it's so incredibly ridiculous. Horrible in its aims, but isolated from that and just viewed as a movie, you can get a good laugh from it.

Evidently, someone's never seen Der Ewige Jude.

Hast du eine Hakennase?

(thinks back to Otto der Liebesfilm)

... Nevermind.

Actually, yes, I have seen it. I'd say it's a toss up between that and Jude Suss for which is funnier. We played a drinking game to Jude Suss (take an extra drink when Suss takes half the guy's house). It's all just so absurd, it's easy to forget what it contributed to.

And no, I'm willing to bet I'm more Aryan than you are.

Did I just inadvertenly start a race riot? Ehm, I'm not exactly sure where you're going with that, and I'm almost reluctant to reply, but for the record, my bloodline is 100% Gentile European.

Anyway, we're getting really off topic, let's get back to criticizing Loop before an overzealous mod locks this thread.
Reploid Productions
09-06-2003, 10:57
An 'overzealous mod' already dealt with it, and without locking it, thank you very much. The stuff that's been split off this thread is now "Misc. German discussion" over in the General forum
Anbar
09-06-2003, 11:04
I'll deal with this in the General forum.
Vthnaar
09-06-2003, 11:04
http://www.vethnos.com/stevetrolls.jpg
GMC Military Arms
09-06-2003, 11:16
AH'LL GIT YOU HEY STEVE, IF IT'S THE LAST THING AH DOOOOOOOOO!
Anbar
09-06-2003, 11:16
I have my reasons with this one...now let's let this thread sink.
The Most Glorious Hack
09-06-2003, 13:07
*fires a Threadsplitter missile at the thread. The bulk of the discussion on German stuff is now in the General forum*

... I need to build and render a Threadsplitter missile :lol:

That would explain why this thread made absolutely no sense while I was reading it...

"Huh? Did I skip something? WTF?"