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"Nazi Symathisers Plan Rally" Issue

RMV
04-12-2008, 22:46
"The far-right-wing Nazi sympathisers..."

Nazi's were not far right. They were far left. Their name was the National Socialist German Workers' Party. Socialists were left wing. Also, they censored the media, which is what the liberals want through the fairness doctrine. Can this be changed?
Tagmatium
04-12-2008, 23:04
The idea that Nazis were far left is suspect at best. They took a lot of aspects from both sides, but tended towards the right after the crushing of the SA and the sucking-up to the corporations.
Serinite IV
04-12-2008, 23:11
They were far left. Fairness Doctrine is shit. Let the conservative hosts blather on, we aren't listening anyway. Eric Holder, Fascist Fuhrer Obama's pick for Attorney Gen. wanted to censor the internet.
Tagmatium
04-12-2008, 23:16
The inclusion of the whole racial purity thing isn't exactly a typically left-wing doctrine to follow, nor is the nationalist thing. Both are somewhat characteristic of parties more to the right of the political spectrum.
UNIverseVERSE
04-12-2008, 23:29
Can we have this thread kicked over to general, where it belongs?
RMV
04-12-2008, 23:38
Hello? They censor the media! They were socialists! They hate Jews.
RMV
04-12-2008, 23:39
"The far-right-wing Nazi sympathisers..."

Nazi's were not far right. They were far left. Their name was the National Socialist German Workers' Party. Socialists were left wing. Also, they censored the media, which is what the liberals want through the fairness doctrine. Can this be changed?
Trostia
04-12-2008, 23:40
No.
Knights of Liberty
04-12-2008, 23:41
"The far-right-wing Nazi sympathisers..."

Nazi's were not far right. They were far left. Their name was the National Socialist German Workers' Party. Socialists were left wing. Also, they censored the media, which is what the liberals want through the fairness doctrine. Can this be changed?

Youre wrong.

Facism is a right wing ideology. And what is this hogwash about liberals out to censor the media? Do you even know what the fairness doctrine is? It doesnt censor anything.

Let me guess, you read Liberal Facism and actually thought it was respectable and accurate, right?
Tagmatium
04-12-2008, 23:41
The idea that Nazis were far left is suspect at best. They took a lot of aspects from both sides, but tended towards the right after the crushing of the SA and the sucking-up to the corporations.

The inclusion of the whole racial purity thing isn't exactly a typically left-wing doctrine to follow, nor is the nationalist thing. Both are somewhat characteristic of parties more to the right of the political spectrum.
Hydesland
04-12-2008, 23:41
Also, Hitler had a moustache, like Stalin, who's also really left wing, so Hitler is left wing also.
Trostia
04-12-2008, 23:43
Also, Hitler had a moustache, like Stalin, who's also really left wing, so Hitler is left wing also.

Mao was cleanshaven, and therefore right-wing. Saddam however, also had the mustache, so was left-wing. The mustache theory of politics rears its ugly, whiskery head again!
Knights of Liberty
04-12-2008, 23:43
The idea that Nazis were far left is suspect at best. They took a lot of aspects from both sides, but tended towards the right after the crushing of the SA and the sucking-up to the corporations.

Unless every major political scientist out there is wrong, facism (which the Nazi's were, unless Historians are wrong too...) is a right wing ideology.


The OP has no idea what the fuck he's talking about. Calling yourself the "National Socialist Party" doesnt make you socialist anymore than calling yourself the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" makes you a democratic republic.

/End Thread.
Tagmatium
04-12-2008, 23:43
Link (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=575115)
Man, keep any further replies like that to the thread in the above link.
Katganistan
04-12-2008, 23:43
General? No. Got Issues? Yes.
Trostia
04-12-2008, 23:44
You can't /end threads yourself, it's like masturbation. Which you also can't do, because I say so.
Wilgrove
04-12-2008, 23:45
Who did the what in the where now?

Seriously though, as long as the Nazi Sympathizers aren't doing any acts of violence or encouraging acts of violence, then they should be allowed to have their rally.

I refer you to the 1st amendment.
Hydesland
04-12-2008, 23:46
Erm, how did the thread get here?
Hydesland
04-12-2008, 23:47
Timewarp
Tagmatium
04-12-2008, 23:47
Don't know. Just whacked a comment on to the thread about this in Moderation.
Knights of Liberty
04-12-2008, 23:48
Hello? They censor the media! They were socialists! They hate Jews.

What liberals hate jews?


The Klan is also clearly a left wing organization! They hate blacks!


I also dont think you know what the "Fairness Doctrine" is. There are perfectly legit reasons to attack it. Your attack isnt one of them.
Rambhutan
04-12-2008, 23:49
"The far-right-wing Nazi sympathisers..."

Nazi's were not far right. They were far left. Their name was the National Socialist German Workers' Party. Socialists were left wing. Also, they censored the media, which is what the liberals want through the fairness doctrine. Can this be changed?

...and the Democratic Republic of the Congo must be a shining beacon of democracy in the heart of Africa simply because it calls itself that...
Tagmatium
04-12-2008, 23:51
Basically just willful ignorance on the part of the OP, to be honest.

Doesn't know a thing about history or the Nazis, just a knee-jerk by some rightist kiddie who thinks he knows everything.
Knights of Liberty
04-12-2008, 23:52
Basically just willful ignorance on the part of the OP, to be honest.

Doesn't know a thing about history or the Nazis, just a knee-jerk by some rightist kiddie who thinks he knows everything.

Im sure his Middle School Social Studies teaher thought he was a really bright young man.
UNIverseVERSE
04-12-2008, 23:53
Basically just willful ignorance on the part of the OP, to be honest.

Doesn't know a thing about history or the Nazis, just a knee-jerk by some rightist kiddie who thinks he knows everything.

Always amuses me how often this turns up. Are the right wing so scared of being associated with the Nazis that they feel they have to be painted as left wingers?
Tagmatium
04-12-2008, 23:57
Always amuses me how often this turns up. Are the right wing so scared of being associated with the Nazis that they feel they have to be painted as left wingers?
To be fair, only some rightists think that way. A lot of others are more than happy to admit that the Nazis were right-wing. These ones have more balls and are mature enough to admit that the extreme of their ideology, like all ideologies taken to the extreme, is just plain wrong.

Its mainly young kids who are trying to be different and claim that they're fascists or something who hoot and holler about the Nazis being socialists, as well as the massively insecure ultra-conservatives who are one or two steps from goose-stepping around piles of burning books themselves.
Augmark
04-12-2008, 23:59
The Far Left, and Far Right are the same thing. The both have absolute control over their subjects, and have government control over everything. I guess you could call them Extremists or something.
Skallvia
05-12-2008, 00:00
they may have used the name "Socialist" but they were notorious for the death of Commies, and borrowed nearly everything that didnt have to do with Race from the Fascists in Italy and Spain...

Far Right is Far Right regardless of what you wish to call it...

And, Both sides limit the media...Several Monarchs can tell you what the Far Right does to media outlets...
Tagmatium
05-12-2008, 00:00
The Far Left, and Far Right are the same thing. The both have absolute control over their subjects, and have government control over everything. I guess you could call them Extremists or something.
They become a dark mirror of each other.