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I'm sure I'm about to get my rear jumped for not reading every word on this forum and every related forum to find my answers (cause I'm sure this has all been covered before). But WTH, if you don't like me, my nation will kick your nation's but. I have a big military. Anyway, on to the dumb questions.

1. Why are issues being recycled? I'm getting sick of it. At first, i thought only the ones that i dismissed were coming up again, but there have been some lately that i know GOOD AND WELL i chose one of the extremeist options i was presented with, and not too long ago.

2. I'm confused on whether its considered a 'valid decision' to dismiss an issue. I dismiss most of my issues because I either see no problem, all proposed solutions are untennable, or I just don't think whatever is at issue should come under the control of givernment. This kind of ties back into when i thought the issues i was dismissing were the ones being recycled.

3. When issues are recycled, why don't they at least give you new options? I mean, i can understand in the real world that certain issues will keep coming up again and again, but each time, there are generally some new options to consider.

4. Why does everyone refer to this as a game? Its not much of a game from what i see. Its more of an exercise. These boards would probably be a decent place to have some discussions of important events if there weren't so many people. I'm pretty sure i will have to dig a lot to find responses to this message tomorrow. But, people keep calling it a game. Is there something I'm missing? I log in every day, see how my nation is doing, deal with my issues, and thats about it. Course, lately I've been cussing the recycled issues too.


Flame away, I've got asbestos underware.

-jeff

There are only about 200 issues and each has their own "Validity".

If you have a problem with repeating issues, then you can submit your own. You do have to wait though for your nation to reach 500 million before you can submit an issue though.

I'm sure I'm about to get my rear jumped for not reading every word on this forum and every related forum to find my answers (cause I'm sure this has all been covered before). But WTH, if you don't like me, my nation will kick your nation's but. I have a big military. Anyway, on to the dumb questions.

I wouldn't jump your rear. I'm not into that sort of thing.

But yeah, there is a forum called Got Issues? for questions about the issues and maybe you could have looked around in there before getting pre-emptively defensive and telling folks about how big your military is. We're all very impressed by that.

Towed to the proper forum.

I'm at 619 million.

So, you're saying they are recycling because no one is suggesting any good new ones? OK, I'll look around in the got issues forum. But, what about my last question. Is there more to this 'game' than I've found so far?


-jeff

That 619 million is your total population. We normally go by 3% of your population could be in your military.


And yes, saying "my natio will kick your nations butt" isn't really smart, when there are '03 nations on here who's military is probably bigger than your nation.

I'm sure I'm about to get my rear jumped for not reading every word on this forum and every related forum to find my answers (cause I'm sure this has all been covered before). But WTH, if you don't like me, my nation will kick your nation's but. I have a big military. Anyway, on to the dumb questions.

1. Why are issues being recycled? I'm getting sick of it. At first, i thought only the ones that i dismissed were coming up again, but there have been some lately that i know GOOD AND WELL i chose one of the extremeist options i was presented with, and not too long ago.

2. I'm confused on whether its considered a 'valid decision' to dismiss an issue. I dismiss most of my issues because I either see no problem, all proposed solutions are untennable, or I just don't think whatever is at issue should come under the control of givernment. This kind of ties back into when i thought the issues i was dismissing were the ones being recycled.

3. When issues are recycled, why don't they at least give you new options? I mean, i can understand in the real world that certain issues will keep coming up again and again, but each time, there are generally some new options to consider.

4. Why does everyone refer to this as a game? Its not much of a game from what i see. Its more of an exercise. These boards would probably be a decent place to have some discussions of important events if there weren't so many people. I'm pretty sure i will have to dig a lot to find responses to this message tomorrow. But, people keep calling it a game. Is there something I'm missing? I log in every day, see how my nation is doing, deal with my issues, and thats about it. Course, lately I've been cussing the recycled issues too.


Flame away, I've got asbestos underware.

-jeff

1. As others have said. There are 200 issues, however not all of them are valid for your nation. NS randomly selects issues from the how many you actually are valid for. And so, issue repetition is parts of everyone's game

2. Dismissing is a valid option, but dismissing an issue means nothing changes in your nation apart from growth of you population which is non-issue related at all.

3. Issues are as coded people complain about there not being enough "middle-of-the-road" options. However the issues have a set number of options. and that is not going to be changed

4. *shrug*, Is SimCity a game, The Sims? Spore(when it comes out)? All these games are similiar that the decisions you make through the course of the game affect your sims. Same here though your SimCity/Sims are abstracted and there are no graphics. It's a national simulator and so that is why people say it's a game. Because to them it is. If you disagree, that's your perogative.

1. As others have said. There are 200 issues, however not all of them are valid for your nation. NS randomly selects issues from the how many you actually are valid for. And so, issue repetition is parts of everyone's game

2. Dismissing is a valid option, but dismissing an issue means nothing changes in your nation apart from growth of you population which is non-issue related at all.

3. Issues are as coded people complain about there not being enough "middle-of-the-road" options. However the issues have a set number of options. and that is not going to be changed

4. *shrug*, Is SimCity a game, The Sims? Spore(when it comes out)? All these games are similiar that the decisions you make through the course of the game affect your sims. Same here though your SimCity/Sims are abstracted and there are no graphics. It's a national simulator and so that is why people say it's a game. Because to them it is. If you disagree, that's your perogative.

In addition to this. You can Rollplay in the forums here under the International Incidents. Which is like playing a game against another person.

there are '03 nations on here who's military is probably bigger than your nation.You rang?

Anyway, eyes towards the top of this forum. Look for a thread called "Issue Repitition".

That 619 million is your total population. We normally go by 3% of your population could be in your military.


And yes, saying "my natio will kick your nations butt" isn't really smart, when there are '03 nations on here who's military is probably bigger than your nation.

Yeah, but we're fiesty, better trained, and better motivated. :upyours:

So, this game's only been around since '03? Interesting, It seemed older.

I don't see why you only take 3% into account. The person said you could propose issues when your population was over 500 mill. Not when your military was over 500 mill strong. Besides, you don't know us, we might just require every man, woman, child, and pet to serve in the military. Not to mention the robots. They don't even get counted in the census, though there is a move underway to count each one as 3/5 of a pet, just to account for how much space they're taking up.


-jeff

You rang?

Anyway, eyes towards the top of this forum. Look for a thread called "Issue Repitition".

Yeah, i just saw that. Splains it perfectly. Course, I'm sure i dont have to point out that just because the expalantion is there, does not mean a newbie is going to be able to wade through all these forums and find it. :headbang:

Is there a place to go and see a list of all the issues? Maybe even see the pre-requisites on each one?


-jeff

Is there a place to go and see a list of all the issues? Maybe even see the pre-requisites on each one?


-jeff

List of issues, yes. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=345941) Requirements to get the issues, no.

does not mean a newbie is going to be able to wade through all these forums and find it.Perhaps I'm just old school, but if I had a question about issues repeating, I'd go to the forums and take a look at my options.

I'd be tempted to head for Technical, but then I'd see Got Issues?, and I'd go there. Then, I'd look at the Stickies, which are official topics and are usually used to answer common questions. While looking at the Stickies, I'd see a thread titled "Issue Repitition".

I'm not sure how much easier we can make it for people. But, again, I'm old school. I actually read stickies/announcements when I join a forum.

Perhaps I'm just old school, but if I had a question about issues repeating, I'd go to the forums and take a look at my options.

I'd be tempted to head for Technical, but then I'd see Got Issues?, and I'd go there. Then, I'd look at the Stickies, which are official topics and are usually used to answer common questions. While looking at the Stickies, I'd see a thread titled "Issue Repitition".

I'm not sure how much easier we can make it for people. But, again, I'm old school. I actually read stickies/announcements when I join a forum.

I'm old school that way too. I even *gasp* read the TOS before agreeing to it.

I used to read all TOS agreements, but they're basically unenforceable, so i dont bother anymore.

Reading stickies is not old school. Old school forums are on Usenet. There are no stickies on usenet. How can something be old school when its been around for like what, 10 years? Any web based forum is is new fangled. I'm old school, and these new fangled web forums frighten and confuse me. But seriously, there are too many stickies. I did read a sticky before i posted. The one that said "Read before posting". The rest of the stickies looked like entries for a FAQ. Questions that i did not have. (BTW, us old real old school guys do read the FAQ if we can find it)

It takes a real narcissist to *expect* someone to read something you wrote just because you put it out on the internet. I bet both of you are bloggers too. And you probably think you're old school bloggers.

You would have gone straight to 'got issues' for this, only because you've been around the forums for a while and you know the ropes. I mean, have you ever bothered to read the description for the Got issues forum? I'm guessing not. I'm not doubting the moderator who towed this post to this group, but according to that description, this post does not appear belong in got issues. In fact, accroding to the sticky that said 'Read before posting", my questions belonged right where i put them in the technical forum.

All that being said, in case i forgot to do it already, thanks for the answers guys. I was about to quit the game because it acted like it was broke. Now that i know people are still actively doing code, I'll stick around a little longer.


-jeff

Look, whatever. You now know that all questions related to issues go in this forum.

IF you want an idea that the TOS of the game and the forums associated with it all you have to know is look at the Game Mod Olympics ( in the moderation forum), and notice that there is a whole forum dedicated to reporting and dealing with failure to follow the TOS (also note the 'Getting Help Request', which can also be used to report in-game breaking of the TOS)

As for stickies, what the mods are saying. Read them!

And what does the blog comment has to do with anything? These guys are mods they know.. and look there stickied so obviously... they are deemed important enough to be kept visibile till the dawn of time (or at least until they are unstickied as is the common practice with the current UN proposal at vote in the UN forum)

People *expect* you to read the stickies not because they where written by them but the stickies give a good grounding in 1. Frequently Asked Questions. 2. Rules and procedures of the game.

If you had thought to go and look at the stickies in the Got Issues forum just in case the forum might have information in regards to OMG Issues before asking the questions then getting snippy at the people who point you read the stickies.

But just incase you have not read the Issues FAQ then here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=421198) is a link to it.

It takes a real narcissist to *expect* someone to read something you wrote just because you put it out on the internet.

Funny, because the first time I ever joined a forum, I'd never seen one before, and the first thing I did was look at the threads at the top of one of the sections. I had no idea what "sticky" meant, but I guessed. Most people have that ability. And they aren't just thrown up on the Internet at some random site. It's clearly at the top of a page that you're already looking at.



You would have gone straight to 'got issues' for this, only because you've been around the forums for a while and you know the ropes.
Another thing I did when I first joined this and other forums was glance at the titles of the forums. I think a forum titled "Got Issues?" would probably be either for technical (for which there is already a section, thus removing that possibility), or for talk about the issues.

Oh, and by the way, it's generally bad form to claim your military is bigger than someone else's without knowing who the else is, or how big their military is.