NationStates Jolt Archive

How in the fuck does legalizing mobil phones increase political freedom? That is the most asinine thing I have seen. Oh yeah, they can have mobil phones, which means they can vote........bullshit. Seriously is this a bug or just seriously fucked up game design?

I had a wee look at the issue and yeah, there's something there that shouldn't be. I'll get an admin to correct it later.

It could be argued that any increase in the availability of forms of communication to people increases the free exchange of ideas -- including political ones.

It could be argued that any increase in the availability of forms of communication to people increases the free exchange of ideas -- including political ones.

That's too much of a stretch, you'd have to say all freedom of speech was political freedom then.

Also, I'm having the same problem with the death tax issue. Can these abominations be reversed?

How in the fuckThat is the most asinine thing I have seen.bullshitseriously fucked up game design?Can these abominations be reversed?How about we start with your abyssmal attitude, hmm? If you can't bring up your complaints without heaping abuse, you will quickly find yourself unable to bring up your complaints at all.

Well considering that only about 30 of the 196 issues allow me to stamp out political freedom, yeah, I'm going to get pretty pissed when this side effect happens. It would be nice if the issues were less random so I'd have a garenteed opportunity to stamp them out.

Well considering that only about 30 of the 196 issues allow me to stamp out political freedom, yeah, I'm going to get pretty pissed when this side effect happens. It would be nice if the issues were less random so I'd have a garenteed opportunity to stamp them out.

You could have answered the initial set of questions when you were creating your nation such that they were stamped out from the beginning. I've done it before.

Well I banned elections immediatly considering that #0 was my first issue. It wouldn't really be a problem at all if stuff that had nothing to do with politics didn't keep effecting it. Yes I know it's not on purpose, but it fucked my stats up and if issues only weren't random, this would be easily correctable.

Well I banned elections immediatly considering that #0 was my first issue. It wouldn't really be a problem at all if stuff that had nothing to do with politics didn't keep effecting it. Yes I know it's not on purpose, but it fucked my stats up and if issues only weren't random, this would be easily correctable.

It wouldn't be much of a political situation if issues arose in a convenient fashion with easily predictable consequences, now would it? ;)

And besides, after you learn how to work the issues you can easily keep your stats where you want. I have had puppets with Outlawed in the Political Freedoms category for over a year at a time. :)

Yes but issues that have nothing to do with political freedom should not be effecting them, it just fucks up my stats and misrepresents the kind of nation I'm running. Abolishing a death tax != giving people the right to vote. Neither does allowing them to have mobile phones.

Yes but issues that have nothing to do with political freedom should not be effecting them, it just fucks up my stats and misrepresents the kind of nation I'm running.Watch it. The deal with that issue is being looked into. Not surprizingly, when the staff is unpaid and does things in their spare time, it takes awhile. Especially when it requires getting Admins involved.

Abolishing a death tax != giving people the right to vote.There's more to Political Freedoms than just voting.

I know, I'm aware it's all unintended but it's just unnerving is all, even if it's not really anyone's fault. And yeah, voting isn't the whole thing, but it does all have to do with influence over the government doesn't it.

If you do what the majority of the people want, they're going to be making more requests, hence the Death Tax issue having a slight PF effect.

Yeah but that's kind of stretching things. I mean with that we may as well increase political freedom with every decision that isn't suggested by a cabinet member.

Eh, not quite. The best example of this would be the Death Penalty issue. I don't remember its number, but it's one of the original 30. At any rate, you had the vast majority of your people wanting something, similar to the Death Tax issue.

But, again, look over the issues... most of the options aren't forwarded by common people or vast majorities. Most of the options are offered by government officials, business officials, or special interest/lobbying groups. When the people themselves put forward something, it's worth noting.

Yeah, I noticed saying no to trial by ordeal at the defendant's request(the deuling issue) and increasing military spending decreases political freedom(I geuss cus it's harder to overthrow the government). I believe in a strong military and against trial by ordeal anyway though. So I geuss more issues than I originally thought will effect it. The only thing I hate is that the budget issue forces you to increase military and police spending.

The nice thing is that they all have different effects. If you don't want police or a military, there will be other issues that let you cut their budgets. My healthcare spending yo-yos up and down because of my support for private industry, including the pharmaceutical industry. I don't want free healthcare, but it's a balancing act.

And, personally, I explain my healthcare spending as spending on government-funded research, as opposed to socialized medicine.