NationStates Jolt Archive


The Hack

Kalvin Federation
06-01-2006, 13:26
No. The game is a satirical take on politics. We don't change issues to avoid offending liberals, conservatives, pro-nuke, anti-nuke, pro-military, anti-military, capitalists, socialist, democratic, dictator, monarchistic, communist, Christian, Jewish, Muslim, atheist, deist, agnostic, anarchist, criminal, married, single, gay, straight, or transgendered people, why the hell should practitioners of "witchcraft" be treated any differently?

I closed the thread for a reason, and I'm closing this one too. It's not going to change. People hallucinating from ergot in the 17th century don't get special treatment.

This is a serious post please note

According to the Nationstates Terms & Conditions it states "You understand that while reasonable efforts will be exerted to ensure the site remains free from offensive and illegal content" whether or not you belief in witchcraft or wiccan religious practices it is offensive to portray witchcraft a "crime" thereby making it inflammatory. So according to these Terms & Conditions, as a moderator you need to exert some effort in removing that offensive piece.

But then the Terms & Conditions also state that the website is satiric, this makes the website malicious which goes against it's own policy. The legal form is flawed.

Either way you must exert some effort to remove it even if you don't take it down. It IS in the rules even though the policy contradicts itself
Muffalopadus
06-01-2006, 13:38
I concur. No really! I do! I totally agree. Sorry if I can’t help more than that.

Although Wicca and all that isn't illegal, I'd put them in the offensive category along with swastikas, KKK, etc. I don’t think that belongs on this site. Its bad enough with all the sexual innuendo and cussing.

You've got my support!

(15 seconds later)

Maybe I'm not on the same page as you...could you explain it a little bit better? It sounds like you're saying that they need to do something without doing something...that doenst make any sence.
Adejaani
06-01-2006, 13:43
This really should belong in Moderation...

I'm going to try and keep this simple. One, all issues are moderated and the issues are known to be specifically rude and insensitive and whatever to an extent.

What Hack and the Mods do, in regards to those taboo topics you named are to police the Forums, the stuff they can't guarantee is kosher. Issues are edited by mods and as such, they can be held personally liable if it's over the top.

However, the forums are under much tighter scrutiny since they can't be responsible for what... People post, so they sometimes have to draw a line and make a value judgement and say "This ain't good because it's over the top" and they have to censure the player.

No, that doesn't make sense either... Let me try again.

It's the way the content is presented, rather than the actual content that's defined as offensive.

Final note: I do not condone the methods or practices of the Mods, nor siding with anyone. I'm merely stating the usual chain of thought in regards to the Mods' actions.
Ceorana
06-01-2006, 15:08
But then the Terms & Conditions also state that the website is satiric, this makes the website malicious which goes against it's own policy. The legal form is flawed.
Satirical does not necessarily mean malicious. The satire is not attacking any person, but fallacious ideas that have propagated our modern politics.
Aelmoor
06-01-2006, 17:50
This is BS, this game is supposed to be for fun, not a load of politically correctness. If you make witchcraft politically correct you'll have to do the same for every other issue. Besides, witchcraft encompasses balck magick, which could potentially kill people.

We don't need little crybabies like you. Go back to your mommy, let her shield you from the REAL world.

P.S. I'm about to send 10 megaton missles into your territory in you declaration of war against the world thread.
I V Stalin
06-01-2006, 19:52
This is BS, this game is supposed to be for fun, not a load of politically correctness. If you make witchcraft politically correct you'll have to do the same for every other issue. Besides, witchcraft encompasses balck magick, which could potentially kill people.

We don't need little crybabies like you. Go back to your mommy, let her shield you from the REAL world.

P.S. I'm about to send 10 megaton missles into your territory in you declaration of war against the world thread.
Thank you, that point had already been made. Please stop flaming other posters.
The Most Glorious Hack
06-01-2006, 21:28
So according to these Terms & Conditions, as a moderator you need to exert some effort in removing that offensive piece.Where would I be without people like you telling me how to do this job I've been doing for nearly 3 years now?

Nevermind the fact that since I'm not an administrator there's nothing I can do about it.

Nevermind the fact that site owner sees no problems with any of the issues in the game.

Nevermind the fact that people have been bitching about this sort of thing since roughly November 2002.

Nevermind the fact that the T&C apply to players of the game and not the game itself.

Nevermind the fact that I've already locked two posts this week on this and countless threads over the past couple years on this subject.

I'll post this one last time for people who can't seem to comprehend: This will not be changed.

Enough already.