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Magnetic Island
20-06-2005, 10:45
I am creating my own issue and I would like to hear some thoughts and imputs from nations.

Name

“Taking Down The Power”

Description

Citizens are fed up with overhead powerlines in the cities of @@NAME@@.

Validity

All nations.

Options

[option] “People are sick of having powerpoles surrounding the streets of @@NAME@@," says noted environmentalist @@RANDOMNAME@@. “It’s terrible! Powerpoles cause over six million accidents on the road each year. Not to mention the environment. It is a disgrace to the cities of @@NAME@@. What would the tourist think? We must implement underground powerlines by increasing taxes.”
[effect] underground power has been implemented
[stats] tax increases, beautiful environment increases, safer nation increases

[option] “Are you kidding?” cries angry citizen @@RANDOMNAME@@. “@@NAME@@’s tax rate is high enough without this making it even higher. I agree that we should have underground powerlines, but you are going the wrong way about it. We should be taking the money off the military budget! I’m sure everyone would be satisfied with that.”
[effect] the military budget is suffering due to the implemention of underground power
[stats] military budget decreases, beautiful environment increases, safer nation increases

[option] "What's wrong with power lines?" says noted Libertarian Bird-watcher @@RANDOMNAME@@. "With the poles our children can see the many beautiful birds that rest on them. So what if a few people die from downed lines? It's their fault. Plus if we leave the system as it is, we don't have to raise taxes and spoil the upward growth of our economy."
[effect] children are seen looking at the many beautiful birds resting on powerlines
[stats] happiness increases, safer nation decreases, beautiful environment decreases

[option] “I agree that the powerpoles are a disgrace to the streets of @@NAME@@,” says tree-hugging hippy @@RANDOMNAME@@. “But let’s go further! How about we deactivate the national grid? Citizens would have to use private generators to power their homes. Of course the economy would suffer and most private sectors would shut down. But atleast we would have less polution and a beautiful environment.”
[effect] citizens are seen powering their homes with private generators
[stats] safer nation increases, beautiful environment increases, economy decreases, commerce decreases, information technology decreases
[NS]Jamillian
21-06-2005, 01:09
not bad

good luck
The Kea
21-06-2005, 02:49
Add one or two ridiculous options like banning electricity, and don't have two issues with the same effect.
Magnetic Island
21-06-2005, 04:52
Option 1 and two are not the same. One of the options increase staxes and the other decreases the military budget.

I have edited this issue and added one more option in. Thoughts?
Fluidics
21-06-2005, 05:03
Good issue. Maybe in option 3, say that the drivers cause the accidents, not the poles. Just a suggestion, I won't cry if you don't do it. :)
Magnetic Island
21-06-2005, 05:15
Sorry. I don't think I will change that. Reason being, we are talking about powerpoles, not the drivers.
The Kea
22-06-2005, 02:13
Originally posted by Magnetic Island
Option 1 and two are not the same. One of the options increase staxes and the other decreases the military budget.

I have edited this issue and added one more option in. Thoughts?

I meant the text that appears after [effect]
Crack Worshipers
22-06-2005, 02:23
good job, I like the banning electricty lol good luck.
Reticulation
22-06-2005, 03:39
Heheh, this is a good one. I hope it gets implemented - though you might have a validity issue if there is a nearly non-existant Government, simply because they would have no resources to deal with it.
Theorums
22-06-2005, 04:04
I suggest you increase some of the negative effects, so they balance each other out. Especially since several have absolutely no negatives, which is unacceptable.
Magnetic Island
22-06-2005, 15:18
I suggest you increase some of the negative effects, so they balance each other out. Especially since several have absolutely no negatives, which is unacceptable.

How could I change that? They all have negative and positives.

The Kea, they both do the same this pracically, there's nothing I can really change. What do you suggest?
The Kea
23-06-2005, 04:26
The second option should say something about the military budget being plundered.
Magnetic Island
23-06-2005, 08:26
Anything else?
Patra Caesar
24-06-2005, 05:05
With the last option, if you ban electricity I can only imagine you will be delivering a blow to industries, especially things like IT that rely on power.
Magnetic Island
24-06-2005, 09:58
That's true. There would be hardly no industries. What would I say?
Magnetic Island
26-06-2005, 12:51
Banning electricity would shut downa lot of industries. What do you think I could say as a stat?
Frisbeeteria
26-06-2005, 13:15
Banning electricity would shut downa lot of industries. What do you think I could say as a stat?
Hmmm.

Economy collapses. (ALL industries that depend on anything but muscle power will be severely or completely shut down)

Health Care collapses. (Coal-powered MRI or CAT scan, anyone? All monitoring and life-support equipment dies with the patients they are keeping alive.)

Communications Industry collapses (except smoke signals, and maybe the Post Office, which must now sort all letters by hand. Oh wait, no new paper or printing industry, so how much is there to mail?)

Education collapses (as parents pull their kids out of schools to help with muscle-powered agriculture, about the only remaining viable industry)

On the positive side, perhaps "Government collapses as the people lynch their representatives for passing this idiotic idea."


Even by NationStates standards, banning electricity goes too far. It's the end of civilisation for that nation.
Magnetic Island
26-06-2005, 14:11
lol, hahaha. Well I'd love to see a nation if they pick that option. If it goes through.

Fris, should I copy and paste all that? Or just Economy, Health Care, Communications Industry and Education collapses.

Fris, I am not sure what you were referring to with this message:

On the positive side, perhaps "Government collapses as the people lynch their representatives for passing this idiotic idea."
Patra Caesar
26-06-2005, 14:19
How about something like 'the Amish control the national electricity grid,' or 'the economy consists of cottage industries and rural agriculture?'
The Catgod
26-06-2005, 14:42
:p i like this one. I'd decrease militairy funds.
Magnetic Island
26-06-2005, 15:15
How about something like 'the Amish control the national electricity grid,' or 'the economy consists of cottage industries and rural agriculture?'

Are you talking abotu effect or stat?
Frisbeeteria
26-06-2005, 16:00
It doesn't matter what stats you choose. All you're doing is making a suggestion for the issues editors anyway. They'll put in actual stat changes if they decide the issue merits review.
Praetonia
26-06-2005, 16:04
Pretty good, but get rid of the "ban electricity". Or at least make it automatically drop your economy to Basket Case. Actually, people wont like 1 issue screwing up their entire nation like that. Just get rid of it.
Defuniak
26-06-2005, 23:36
I'd Put the powerpoles underground. who cares if the people are poorer!!! :)
The Kea
27-06-2005, 04:49
Originally posted by Praetonia
Pretty good, but get rid of the "ban electricity". Or at least make it automatically drop your economy to Basket Case. Actually, people wont like 1 issue screwing up their entire nation like that. Just get rid of it.

I think most people would not be too surprised if that option destroyed their nation.
Patra Caesar
27-06-2005, 11:44
Are you talking abotu effect or stat?

Effect
Chicken pi
27-06-2005, 16:26
[option] “I agree that the powerpoles are a disgrace to the streets of @@NAME@@,” says tree-hugging hippy @@RANDOMNAME@@. “But let’s go further! How about we ban electricity altogether? The kids would be having fun outside instead of playing NationStates on their PC.”
[effect] electricity is banned
[stats] safer nation increases, beautiful environment increases

Maybe you could deactivate the national grid rather than ban electricity and have something like "citizens have to power their homes with private generators" for the effect.

I mean, drastic economic and social collapse seems a bit too much for one option...
Praetonia
27-06-2005, 17:46
I think most people would not be too surprised if that option destroyed their nation.
You know what NS is like. Someone will click "yes", be suprised and upset when their antion dies and their shout their heads off in moderation / technical. Best just not to include it.
The Kea
28-06-2005, 04:47
Then that'll be their fault for being stupid.
Magnetic Island
28-06-2005, 05:19
Chicken Pi, I like your idea. What's the national grid though? Coudl you explain more?
Chicken pi
28-06-2005, 15:36
Chicken Pi, I like your idea. What's the national grid though? Coudl you explain more?

The national grid is basically the nationwide network of electricity pylons.

It would have less impact than banning electricity outright, as industries would have the freedom to produce the electricity that they require (although the effects on standards of living and the economy would still be pretty serious).
Magnetic Island
29-06-2005, 02:31
Ok. What do you think of my editing? I want one more stat from the last option. Something to do with private sectors shutting down.

- You know, I am picking the last option for my nation. ;)
Chicken pi
02-07-2005, 13:36
Ok. What do you think of my editing? I want one more stat from the last option. Something to do with private sectors shutting down.

I guess it could affect your ICT industry or possibly reduce the level of government investment in Commerce.

I like the new option, by the way.
Magnetic Island
02-07-2005, 14:40
[stats] safer nation increases, beautiful environment increases, economy decreases, commerce decreases, information technology decreases

Isn't commerce and economy the same thing. The above is the stats from the last option.
Chicken pi
02-07-2005, 15:40
Isn't commerce and economy the same thing. The above is the stats from the last option.

No, I was referring to government priorities when I mentioned commerce. The economy stat is about the level of economic freedom, I think.
Magnetic Island
09-07-2005, 14:22
I'm going to post this issue, any ideas before i do?