NationStates Jolt Archive

Description: A small community of writers is banning together to stop their fans from writing out of canon fiction based on their works.

Validity:Valid for all nations, at any time.

Options:
[option]"We demand that our copyrights be upheld," @@RANDOMNAME@@, an award winning and popular author, explains, "It is not fair that we spend countless hours of our lives creating worlds just so our fans can go off and change it to their own! If that was the case, I might as well just stop writing all together!"
[effect]Fan fiction is outlawed.
[stats]Publishing industry increases, freedom decreases

[option]"Look, we're not changin' the world 'ere," @@RANDOMNAME@@, an avid fan fiction writer, says, "We're just tryin' to have some fun and change some things up a bit. Besides, maybe if 'em writers paid attention to what we're sayin' about their storylines, then, maybe we wouldn't 'ave to write better stories!"
[effect]Authors copyrights eliminated.
[stats]Publishing industry decreases, freedom increases.

[option]"How about we just let everyone write and ignore the problem all together? We cannot stop fans from writing stories based on their favorite author's works, unless we want to invade their bedrooms," @@RANDOMNAME@@, a government official, "In fact, I think this might be the perfect time to implement are latest intrusive techniques to keep all citizens in line.”
[effect]Government allowed in bedroom.
[stats]Freedom decreases significantly, government control rises.

Comments? Questions? Concerns?

I'd pick the first option. Every time.

Seriously, though, the 3rd one seems kinda wedged in there, and doesn't seem to fit very well. Maybe have it be about random computer sweeps to search for banned fanfic or something. Also, issues generally work better when every option has positives and negatives.

Seriously, though, the 3rd one seems kinda wedged in there, and doesn't seem to fit very well. Maybe have it be about random computer sweeps to search for banned fanfic or something.

Note taken and suggested incorporated.

Also, issues generally work better when every option has positives and negatives.

Can you give me an example of how that works or might work with this issue? I thought I had done that, but I'm not quite sure where I went wrong...

Here's the second draft:

Description: A small community of writers is banning together to stop their fans from writing out of canon fiction based on their works.

Validity: Valid for all nations, at any time.

Options:
[option]"We demand that our copyrights be upheld," @@RANDOMNAME@@, an award winning and popular author, explains, "It is not fair that we spend countless hours of our lives creating worlds just so our fans can go off and change it to their own! If that was the case, I might as well just stop writing all together!"
[effect]Fan fiction is outlawed.
[stats]Publishing industry increases, freedom decreases

[option]"Look, we're not changin' the world 'ere," @@RANDOMNAME@@, an avid fan fiction writer, says, "We're just tryin' to have some fun and change some things up a bit. Besides, maybe if 'em writers paid attention to what we're sayin' about their storylines, then, maybe we wouldn't 'ave to write better stories!"
[effect]Authors copyrights eliminated.
[stats]Publishing industry decreases, freedom increases.

[option]"How about random computer sweeps over the internet to see who’s storing fna fiction on their harddrives?" @@RANDOMNAME@@, a government official, "In fact, I think this might be the perfect time to implement our latest computer filtration software to see just what else are citizens are hiding.”
[effect]Government allowed to search computers via the internet.
[stats]Freedom decreases, Information Technology industry booms.

I'd pick the first option. Every time.

Seriously, though, the 3rd one seems kinda wedged in there, and doesn't seem to fit very well. Maybe have it be about random computer sweeps to search for banned fanfic or something. Also, issues generally work better when every option has positives and negatives.

You do know that every issue klnown in NationStates has some stupid third option that goes severly extremist in its values to any given Nation. I mean, why not just add this? Its better anywho, we need more....more...more issues!

I just LOVE fna fictions! ;)

I'd pick option 2, every time, but this is just out of personal choice. Everything seems pretty well balanced.

Could you pretty please add another option?

[option]"What was the government doing regulating the activities of private individuals anyway?" asks anarchist and sometime English teacher, @@RANDOMNAME@@. Let's get the government out of our lives and our business and send it back to mismanaging our tax @@CURRENCY@@s!
[effect] fanfic writers take over the publishing industry of @@NAME@@
[stats]freedom increases significantly, publishing industry breaks even

I do get tired of not having any options for my political views. :( Of course, I have that problem with my centrist nations as well. :mad:

Could you pretty please add another option?

[option]"What was the government doing regulating the activities of private individuals anyway?" asks anarchist and sometime English teacher, @@RANDOMNAME@@. Let's get the government out of our lives and our business and send it back to mismanaging our tax @@CURRENCY@@s!
[effect] fanfic writers take over the publishing industry of @@NAME@@
[stats]freedom increases significantly, publishing industry breaks even

I do get tired of not having any options for my political views. :( Of course, I have that problem with my centrist nations as well. :mad:

Perhaps as a variant on this we could have an option which would completely eliminate copyright law altogether?

Right, but then the validity of the issue would have to be modified as there is another issue (file sharing or something) that does the same thing.

I'm going to post my next draft tomorrow sometime, incorporating the suggestions here.

Right, but then the validity of the issue would have to be modified as there is another issue (file sharing or something) that does the same thing.

Well, considering this issue only deals with literature fan fiction, I'd be hesitant to agree with you on this point. Although, the idea of banning all copyrights might be the extreme political issue selection I'm looking for...

2 suggestions: number 3 should give something along the lines of "a vast blackmarket for fanfiction has developed".

And, for option 1, I'm wondering if maybe the actors would be more against it than the writers, given the weird and usually overtly sexual stories that they are written into.

2 suggestions: number 3 should give something along the lines of "a vast blackmarket for fanfiction has developed".

And, for option 1, I'm wondering if maybe the actors would be more against it than the writers, given the weird and usually overtly sexual stories that they are written into.

Very interesting suggestions... hopefully, crossing my fingers, that I can get out something maybe tonight or tomorrow... I've been busy prepping for Thanksgiving. Thanks, Spoffin, and everyone else!

I do believe I've added everyone's suggestings, thanks! Let me know what you think of the latest draft...

Description: A small community of arts and entertainment executives in @@NAME@@ is banning together to stop ]fans from writing out-of-canon fiction based on their works.

Validity: Valid for all nations, at any time.

Options:
[option]"We demand that our copyrights be upheld," @@RANDOMNAME@@, an award winning and popular author, explains, "It is not fair that we spend countless hours of our lives creating worlds just so our fans can go off and change it to their own! If that was the case, I might as well just stop writing all together!"
[effect]Fan fiction is outlawed completely.
[stats]Publishing industry increases, freedom decreases

[option]"Look, we're not changin' the world 'ere," @@RANDOMNAME@@, an avid fan fiction writer, says, "We're just tryin' to have some fun and change some things up a bit. Besides, maybe if 'em writers paid attention to what we're sayin' about their storylines, then, maybe we wouldn't 'ave to write better stories!"
[effect]All copyrights are eliminated in all arts and entertainment media.
[stats]Arts and entertainment industry, freedom increases.

[option]"How about random computer sweeps over the internet to see who’s storing fna fiction on their harddrives?" @@RANDOMNAME@@, a government official, "In fact, I think this might be the perfect time to implement our latest computer filtration software to see just what else are citizens are hiding.”
[effect]A blackmarket for fan fiction has developed.
[stats]Freedom decreases, Information Technology industry booms.

Perhaps as a variant on this we could have an option which would completely eliminate copyright law altogether?

That was basically the idea. Sorry I didn't make it clear.

Hm. Optiion 3 might increase the police spending as well, to make sure those dastardly writers are obeying the law.

[option]"Look, we're not changin' the world 'ere," @@RANDOMNAME@@, an avid fan fiction writer, says, "We're just tryin' to have some fun and change some things up a bit. Besides, maybe if 'em writers paid attention to what we're sayin' about their storylines, then, maybe we wouldn't 'ave to write better stories!"
[effect]Authors copyrights eliminated.
[stats]Publishing industry decreases, freedom increases.

"Of course, I'm a fan fic writer...base mine on movies or TV show that were cancelled...some of them YEARS ago...and do not mess with canon as far as character personality go. It's scenerio, it's an exploration of 'what if's that make someone a fan writer. But we do not infringe on copyrights, we do NOT make money for our stories, we DO add disclaimers testifying that we are NOT the original author and we are responsible for some of the best damned reads in the world.

Of course, personally, I write mostly 'slash'.

[option]"Look, we're not changin' the world 'ere," @@RANDOMNAME@@, an avid fan fiction writer, says, "We're just tryin' to have some fun and change some things up a bit. Besides, maybe if 'em writers paid attention to what we're sayin' about their storylines, then, maybe we wouldn't 'ave to write better stories!"
[effect]Authors copyrights eliminated.
[stats]Publishing industry decreases, freedom increases.

"Of course, I'm a fan fic writer...base mine on movies or TV show that were cancelled...some of them YEARS ago...and do not mess with canon as far as character personality go. It's scenerio, it's an exploration of 'what if's that make someone a fan writer. But we do not infringe on copyrights, we do NOT make money for our stories, we DO add disclaimers testifying that we are NOT the original author and we are responsible for some of the best damned reads in the world.

Of course, personally, I write mostly 'slash'.

Next time you come up with an issue...PLEASE know what the fuck you're talking about. All three choices suck.

Next time you come up with an issue...PLEASE know what the fuck you're talking about. All three choices suck.

Flaming other users after being resurrected isn't going to win any favour...

Next time you come up with an issue...PLEASE know what the fuck you're talking about. All three choices suck.

Considering you're the only one who thinks "all three choices suck," I think I'm more going with the majority on this one. You did bring up a good point that it isn't just current media that's being written about, but it's also not just cancelled TV shows, movies, etc. that are being written about either; I will incoporate that in my next draft.

Here's the next draft:

Description: A small community of arts and entertainment executives in @@NAME@@ is banning together to stop fans from writing out-of-canon fiction based on their works.

Validity: Valid for all nations, at any time.

Options:
[option]"We demand that our copyrights be upheld," @@RANDOMNAME@@, an award winning and popular author, explains, "It is not fair that we spend countless hours of our lives creating worlds just so our fans can go off and change it to their own! If that was the case, I might as well just stop writing all together!"
[effect]Fan fiction is outlawed completely.
[stats]Publishing industry increases, freedom decreases.

[option]"Look, we're not changin' the world 'ere," @@RANDOMNAME@@, an avid fan fiction writer, says, "We're just tryin' to have some fun and change some things up a bit. Besides, maybe if 'em writers paid attention to what we're sayin' about their storylines, then, maybe we wouldn't 'ave to write better stories!"
[effect]All copyrights are eliminated in all arts and entertainment media.
[stats]Arts and entertainment industry decreases, freedom increases.

[option]"How about random computer sweeps over the internet to see who’s storing fan fiction on their hard drives?" @@RANDOMNAME@@, a government official, "In fact, I think this might be the perfect time to implement our latest computer filtration software to see just what else are citizens are hiding.”
[effect]A black market for fan fiction has developed.
[stats]Freedom decreases, Information Technology industry booms, and police spending increases.

[option]"Well, yeah, I write fan fics, but I don't go around changing everything," another fan ficcer, @@NAME@@, says, "Mine are on TV shows that were cancelled or movies that won't have sequels dropped by greedy producers for no reason. It's just exploration, just like the writers who conceived the idea. We don't make any money, we put in disclaimers, and we generally love the writer behind it all!"
[effect]Fans are allowed to write fiction as long as they properly credit the owner and copyright holder.
[stats]Freedom increases, arts and entertainment industry increases.

Oi, perfectisimo!

Seriously, one of the better written ones I've seen in a while - This should be a shoo in. ;)

Seriously, one of the better written ones I've seen in a while - This should be a shoo in. ;)

Thanks, Lethislavania! I'm just going to give it a few more days before submitting it.

Seeing as how their was no further comment for a few days on the last draft, I've submitted it as is.

Seeing as how their was no further comment for a few days on the last draft, I've submitted it as is.

Good job. I'd pick number 4.

I like the 4th option, and not just from the effects. I know you already submited it but just looking at what their saying #2 and #4 look really similer (of course #2 fails to mention anything such as disclamers so i guess its a bit of a trick.) Anyway, great issue!

I know you already submited it but just looking at what their saying #2 and #4 look really similer (of course #2 fails to mention anything such as disclamers so i guess its a bit of a trick.)

I see what you're saying. I think the second and fourth issues are dealing with the two extremes of fan fiction writers; the second issue dealing with the fanatical and the fourth dealing with the rather moderate.