NationStates Jolt Archive

Anyone else notice lately that the NationStates "Issues" have been really awful issues? It's just a guess, but I'd say close to 1/2 of the issues lately have been loaded, ludicrous, and competely inane. I mean, no matter your choice with some of the most recent issues, you are screwed with higher taxes, or Civil Rights are getting just absolutely hammered. No offense to the authors, but the options lately seem like they're written while under the influence of heavy duty narcotics. Yeah, I know, "Sounds like fun!", but it's getting really annoying dismissing so many issues, and some of them hammer you anyway.

Just as an example, Human Sacrifices? I mean, c'mon! That's borderline retarded, and the choices are either you're a blood-thirsty maniac, or you're against religion and civil rights, or you're running 're-education camps'... LAME!


Violent Violetists Demand Blood!

The Issue
Members of a new weird religious cult, called the Order of Violet, ask for the government to appease their mighty god by offering Her a sacrifice of the human variety.

The Debate

"What have we got to lose?" says religious freedoms advocate Melbourne Wong. "Just cut up a few homeless folk- it appeases this group's bloodthirsty Goddess, gets rid of unsightly bums that drain welfare, and everybody goes home happy."
[Accept]

"We must go much further than a few beggars!" argues the overzealous High Member of the Order of Violet, Freddy Chicago. "You must pass a law that everyone’s first born child must be slaughtered, on live TV if possible. Think of the viewing figures!"
[Accept]

"You aren't going to listen to these whackjob Violetists, are you?" comments Dave Winters while leading a prayer group. "Human sacrifices! Surely we're too civilized to permit such barbaric practices! These lunatic fringe groups should be outlawed, their leaders should be executed!"
[Accept]

"Who's being a lunatic?" retorts Gregory Wong of the Meatopiaa Humanitarian Society. "I agree that these practices ought to be outlawed, but instead of sinking to the same level of these fanatics and killing our fellow people, why not simply start a re-education program? Even the worst person can be rehabilitated into a useful member of society, with enough time, care, and lots and lots of funding!"
[Accept]

The Government Position
The government has yet to formalize a position on this issue.

If you wish, you may simply dismiss this issue.

Issue by: The Independent State of ***** * ***** ********
Editor: Reploid Productions

here here!

Stop bitching and do something about it. Get down and write a few Pulitzer-prize winning NS issues. Then you can complain.

Well you could always just dismiss the issues you don't like.

Stop bitching and do something about it. Get down and write a few Pulitzer-prize winning NS issues. Then you can complain.

So I suppose you call my example issue a 'Pulitzer-prize winning issue' then? Human sacrifice's, slaughter everyone's first -born... get real.

Besides, I have submitted a few issues, none of which were accepted. They definitely were as good, if not better, than many of the issues I've had to deal with lately. Unfortunately, for reasons unknown to me because they don't tell you why, none of my submissions have been used to the best of my knowledge.


Well you could always just dismiss the issues you don't like.

Very true, and I have been doing that, but sometimes the issues hammer your NationState when dismissing them anyway. And frankly, it makes for a lot of dismissing lately, which isn't much fun.

Wrong forum.

Some of them really are bad. I submitted one before, but nothing came of it. I thought legalizing sepaku would be interesting.

Some of them really are bad. I submitted one before, but nothing came of it. I thought legalizing sepaku would be interesting.
NOW you're thinking with your head.

I recently submitted an issue...though I forget what it was abiut... Oh right...it was about schools; whether or not religious schools should be publically funded.

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=faq

"I don't agree with any of the options on this issue!
Dismiss it, then. This is the equivalent of ignoring an issue until people stop talking about it and there's not so much pressure to do something. If you were a real government, you'd do this all the time, of course, but in NationStates it's more interesting if you respond to issues by actually making decisions."

"Who wrote all these issues?
I wrote the first thirty, back in the days when I thought nobody much would be interested in playing a political simulation game. I imagined NationStates as the kind of game you might stumble across, have fun with for a week or two, then move on. Then this entire community just popped into existence, as vibrant and dedicated as any on the internet, and it became clear that 30 issues just weren't enough. Rather than devote the rest of my life to writing them, I decided to ask players to submit their own issues, and let the moderators edit them into a form suitable for use in the game. That's the current system: new issues are constantly entering the game.

If an issue has been written by a player and/or edited by a moderator, it says so whenever you view that issue. If it doesn't credit an author, it's by me."

"Why is my nation so weird?
Everything is exaggerated a little. Well, okay, a lot. Your decisions affect your nation very strongly, so your country might seem like a more extreme version of what you were aiming for. Unless you have radical politics. In which case you probably think nothing's wrong.

My decision had unintended consequences!
Yep, that'll happen. For one thing, see "Why is my nation so weird?" above. For another, pretty much every decision you make will involve a trade-off of some kind. It's kind of an exercise in choosing the best of a bunch of bad options. You might find this frustrating, especially if you're the kind of person who thinks the solutions to all the world's problems are obvious."

The issues are supposed to be weird and overexaggerated, as the FAQ says... :) But I wouldn't mind seeing people write new ones to add to the mix.

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=faq



The issues are supposed to be weird and overexaggerated, as the FAQ says... :) But I wouldn't mind seeing people write new ones to add to the mix.
Apparently there is a massive backlog.
Check the Got Issues forum

Shouldn't this be in the Issues forum?

Just about every issue I've gotten lately I've dismissed. They've all been player-generated issues. I have also suggested good issues, none of which have been implemented (the last one was on monetary policy - too boring, I guess?).

NOW you're thinking with your head.

I recently submitted an issue...though I forget what it was abiut... Oh right...it was about schools; whether or not religious schools should be publically funded.

That would be a decent one.

But all I wanted was to be able to tell my people they can ritualisticly disembowl themselves if they have lost their honor in order to regain it... :mad:

That would be a decent one.

But all I wanted was to be able to tell my people they can ritualisticly disembowl themselves if they have lost their honor in order to regain it... :mad:
Aw, so they won't be able to? :D

Just about every issue I've gotten lately I've dismissed. They've all been player-generated issues. I have also suggested good issues, none of which have been implemented (the last one was on monetary policy - too boring, I guess?).

It also could be how we set up our impacts / stats effects of our issues. I've submitted three issues, which I thought were pretty interesting, but to date none of them were accepted. I believe the issue queue is currently somewhere in the early Spring, so my levee break issue still has a slim chance of making it in.

I think the problem is creating an issue that really does force nations to pick in a lose-lose situation. I actually like that aspect of the game. You nail your economy or your rights.

While I frequently dismiss issues, from time to time I get that "why the hell not" feeling and just pick one that I've been dismissing for weeks.

Just keep submitting those issues! :) I'm less worried about how well designed the issues are than the frequency of repeats I get when I'm selecting 2 / day. I get 2 / day knowing that I'll want to dismiss over half of these issues.

Hey, if you hate that issue,
1) dismiss it
2) go after TnUI yourself.

You nail your economy or your rights.

Darn Communists. They've taken over the the issue-writing!

Did anyone read the news today?

They've announced that their are now 150 issues in circulation, at least!

Darn Communists. They've taken over the the issue-writing!

Um, it has been like that since day one.

Darn Communists. They held the Revolution on day one!