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Nationstates makes decisions wrong

16-03-2004, 20:16
Why in the nations, whenever you make a decision that involves Socialisation of your nation, or Government planning of any kind (As opposed to Corperate "Lez Faire" Free Market decisions) does your economy get weaker?

I know that this is the popular idea that whenever a Economy is controlled and moderated, then the Economy gets weakers, but this is very wrong.

In the past when Nations economies have been controlled (i.e. Socialised/Nationalised) the economy has been incredibly efficient. Some examples are Hitlers germany (The most efficient economy that ever existed in history, and had no Capitalism at all), and the Soviet Union (Which although many believe was very poor due to Socialisation, was weakened mainly because of the war, and interfereance from the americans).

The truth is, contrary to popular thinking Socialism is very inefficient, is far, far more efficient than wastefull Capitalism (Which propomtes Competion, Divison, and production of things that are unneeded).

Therefore, I think that instead of having issues that involve the choice between Socialism (Planned economy) and Capitalism (Corperate "Lez Faire" Economy), you should have three choices on how your economy is governed:

1. Socialism (Strengthens Economy drastically, however, reduced Civil Rights, and increases Taxation and equality of wealth)

2. Capitalism (Strenthens Economy slightly, Increases Civil Rights, reduces taxation, but makes great inequality within wealth distribution)

3. Reduction, or "Lez Faire" Economy (Weakens economy, Increases Civil rights, reduces taxation, no change in wealth distribution)

I think that this system of working out the economy in a Nation is far more acurate, and would like to see it to be implemented in the issues in the future.

I could give an example of an issue that would exist if this system was used, if anyone does not understand fully what I mean by this.
Shivatopia
20-03-2004, 18:12
i think you're just plain wrong though. of the countries today, which ones have the strongest economies? the capitalist ones. china was socialist, and it's economy sucked. it turned capitalist, and its economy screamed. look at japan after ww2. look at north/south korea. look at india - similar story as china. the german economy really wasn't so hot - it was just completely geared towards warmaking. consumer goods suffered greatly.

socialization is horribly inefficient because it takes away all incentive to innovate or to work hard.
SalusaSecondus
20-03-2004, 20:14
There are nations in NS which have no economic freedoms, yet still have a frightening economy.
20-03-2004, 20:17
There are nations in NS which have no economic freedoms, yet still have a frightening economy.

Which should serve as an indicator as to how accurate NS really is...