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The i dea i have for an issue is as follows

"Many of the nations some what mentally unstable people have came up with an idea to bring back deulling to the world.(this idea came to them after watching many medevil movies)

"Why not" Screams mental patient number 32-a-9," come on the idea is sound me and the magic man in the mirror aruged for 3 hours to come up with the idea. let me fight."

" I am not even going to ask." calmly explians joe Stager" honestly these people were put in a crazy house for a reason why is it even allowed in the issues box? here is an idea how anout we let all the "mental people" deul each other and advertise it on national t.v. i am sure it will make huge profits.I cant believe this is even being considered. but lets let them do it. i may get a laugh out of it.

You have to put the issue into a particular format, eg,

After watching too many medieval films, a group of psychiatric patients came up with an idea to bring back duelling.

Valid for [your choice of nations]

[option] "Why not?" Psychiatric patient 32-a-9 screams. "Come on, this idea is sound. Me and the magic man in the mirror argued for 3 hours to come up with this idea. Let me fight!"
[effect] your choice
[stats] your choice

[option] Doctor Joe Stager sighs. "I'm not even going to ask. These people are in psychiatric hospitals for good reasons. Why is this issue even being discussed? Hey, I've got an idea. How about letting all the psychiatric patients deul each other on national TV. I'm sure this reality program will reap huge profits. Once people ditch their ethical concerns, they'll get a laugh out of it."
[effect] your choice
[stats] your choice

This web page, http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=52491 may help with your issue crafting needs.

And please run a spelling checker on it (or post it here for proofreading) before you submit it -- that was really bad spelling...

The underlying issue is one that I support writing.
However, I can't tell if you are simply making fun of the insane or your heart is simply not in support of duelling to the point where you abandon reason for duels as soon as speak. I had planned to post suggetion but am too repulsed by the whole of what you wrote.

I'd dismiss it without thought, and agree with Galts Apostles that it is in bad taste.

The underlying issue is one that I support writing.
However, I can't tell if you are simply making fun of the insane or your heart is simply not in support of duelling to the point where you abandon reason for duels as soon as speak. I had planned to post suggetion but am too repulsed by the whole of what you wrote.

What's wrong with making fun of the insane? I'm sure it's not going to break their poor little hearts. =P

Besides, your post started to fall apart grammatically towards the end there. "...for duels as soon as speak"? And what about "I had planned to post suggestion but"?

Sometimes I wonder if people realize how infuriating it is to try to read their posts, then realize that it's impossible to understand the message fully because the bad grammar throws me off. If I can't understand the structure of your sentences, what importance do you expect me to attribute to your argument?

As for the issue, I'd like duelling...that would be fun! But I don't want it to be associated with an insane idea so easily...that puts some serious bias into the argument there. The point behind these issues is that they should allow people to decide what they want to do with their nation, not try to convince them why they should do it your way.

Duelling is a good idea, but I would defenately make it a more population general subject. Duelling over civil arguments or even as a sport.

[quote="The SoBe"][quote="Galts Apostles"]
Sometimes I wonder if people realize how infuriating it is to try to read their posts, then realize that it's impossible to understand the message fully because the bad grammar throws me off. If I can't understand the structure of your sentences, what importance do you expect me to attribute to your argument?[quote]

PEOPLE.. please do remember that this is an International community we are playing with, and that, while people may know some english, it may not be their first language!

Be courteous to those who may need some help with their english. I dont speak Japanese, so if I were to say somthing wrong there, I wouldn't want to be yelled at for a mistake I cant help making untill somone tells me right.

This issue, unless better defined and a bit more PC, is never going to make it into the game's realm.

[quote="The SoBe"][quote="Galts Apostles"]
Sometimes I wonder if people realize how infuriating it is to try to read their posts, then realize that it's impossible to understand the message fully because the bad grammar throws me off. If I can't understand the structure of your sentences, what importance do you expect me to attribute to your argument?[quote]

PEOPLE.. please do remember that this is an International community we are playing with, and that, while people may know some english, it may not be their first language!

Be courteous to those who may need some help with their english. I dont speak Japanese, so if I were to say somthing wrong there, I wouldn't want to be yelled at for a mistake I cant help making untill somone tells me right.

well someone with sense.... thank you. :D

You're absolutely right, we don't speak foreign languages well, so we wouldn't want people yelling at us if we were getting it wrong, right?

I've got a solution. I'm not fluent in Japanese (or Nihongo, to those of you who know anything) so guess what? I DON'T TRY POSTING IN JAPANESE!

If you suck at baseball, would you try out for afterschool baseball teams? Or football? Or the chess club? If I don't know enough about anything, be it a language, a hobbie, or whatever, I'm going to have enough respect for those who DO know what they're doing to avoid irritating them.

Who would you rather be fair to? The people who don't know what they're doing, or the people who do? My support goes with the people who know what they're doing.

Now tell me how much sense I don't make.

This is not the language club. If you don't understand what someone said, because of poor grammar, it's quite reasonable to post "I didn't understand, what exactly did you mean by X", but not to suggest that they shouldn't be posting or that their arguments are worthless because of their grammar.

This is not the language club. If you don't understand what someone said, because of poor grammar, it's quite reasonable to post "I didn't understand, what exactly did you mean by X", but not to suggest that they shouldn't be posting or that their arguments are worthless because of their grammar.

Come on people, I'm not asking anyone to perform surgery here, just compose something that resembles a sentence. Just about everyone arguing with me are literate people by the looks of it. The whole reason you can even argue with me in the first place is because you can understand what I'm trying to say, and that I can understand what you're trying to say too.

"...not a language club."? Oh come on. This is a forum for political topics and issues! Just because it's not a designated grammar class doesn't mean proper grammar ought to be thrown to the wind. That's like saying paraplegic people should have no problems being construction workers because construction "isn't gym class."

Have you ever thought that these things aren't labeled as "classes" or "clubs" for things like grammar because grammar ought to be second nature, and is generally a prerequisite to writing, particularly on a public forum?

Admittedly, I tend to be pretty harsh towards the illiterate. Why shouldn't I be? I spent years of my life busting my ass to be proficient in the written and spoken language, so I have to be overly nice to the people who didn't? Why is that considered fair? I get put down on an almost constant basis by both the uneducated (not because they didn't have the opportunity, but because they didn't care to try) and the Robin Hood wannabes that stick up for them so they can come out looking like a saint. Why should I be open to ridicule, while the lazy get all the protection they could want?

The point we're trying to make here is that this is an *international* community. So whoever wrote that admittedly inept sentence may have been using something that was perfectly acceptable idiom in *their native language*.
Or he/she/it may have simply been a lazy writer, in which case they may deserve a bit of a thumping.