NationStates Jolt Archive


illegal/ legal prostitution

Wykes
21-02-2004, 02:11
Illegal/legal prostitution would make a good issue, there doesnt seem to be one already.
21-02-2004, 02:22
21-02-2004, 02:23
Prostitution would be an ok issue.
It doesn't really do anything excpet maybe civil liberties?
It wouldnt boost the economy, but it would be odd if your private sector was lead by Prostitution...... if you see what i mean

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Wykes
21-02-2004, 04:24
Prostitution would be an ok issue.
It doesn't really do anything excpet maybe civil liberties?
It wouldnt boost the economy, but it would be odd if your private sector was lead by Prostitution...... if you see what i mean



I'm not really familiar enough with the game to know what variables could be effected, so some general points and ideas. I'm struggling to think of any down side in game terms. Perhaps somebody familiar with these could form into a proper issue for submittion.

I think it would boost civil rights in free-market economies. However in some government forms,it could be considered a form of oppression. In theocracies for example, it could have a negative impact.

It could also increase the cost of government funded health care, but this could be balanced by moving something from the grey economy into the taxed economy.

I think it would boost the economy *slightly* in the sense the any economic activity does. It could also be a source of foreign earnings, consider sex tourism with places, like Thailand, Amsterdam, Prague, Nevada etc.
26-02-2004, 09:44
Buried in the twenty plus resolutions that managed to wade through the UN is a universal acceptance of prostitution as a business. If one is a UN member, this issue has no meaning because it had been decided for you when joining the UN. For those of us who still retain autonomy, the issue is a potentially good one by the skill of the writer.
N Prado
26-02-2004, 14:09
Buried in the twenty plus resolutions that managed to wade through the UN is a universal acceptance of prostitution as a business. If one is a UN member, this issue has no meaning because it had been decided for you when joining the UN. For those of us who still retain autonomy, the issue is a potentially good one by the skill of the writer.
N Prado
Not true. Technically the UN allows euthanasia, buit there is nothing stopping me from outlawing it.
28-02-2004, 08:26
In that case, go ahead. I would make it have at least three options reflecting the varying degrees of control: [normal arguments included as a guide]
1 This practice objectifies women and is a smear against the family structure and religious teachings; keep this outlawed
2 The corresponding crime is too great, beatings and theft by pimps, lets allow it in gov regulated areas (like RL Amsterdam) and put a tax and health inspection requirement on it.
3 Imprisoning people (not just women) for a vicrimless crime, when the prostitute is usually the victim to rape. lets open the door the whole way, only people who want to will enter the market and competition will ensure that the *ahem* product is only the best, do we regulate massuses and keep them cordoned off in red light districts? no, lets not go half way and treat normal citizens like animals in a zoo while calling them free.

If I were to develop this, I would make 1 and 2 sound rabid and crazy (respectively) with 3 as the most reasoned one. Why? That way, people have slight doubts about their 'normal' choice. Which issues are the best? Those that you can answer mindlessly because it is the same propaganda that you have always heard, or those that present the controversial choice in the best light? I prefer the latter because it gives me the chance to question my beliefs, if only momentarily.
N Prado
Th Great Otaku
28-02-2004, 17:44
Illegal/legal prostitution would make a good issue, there doesnt seem to be one already.

it was already used as an UN issue.
28-02-2004, 17:55
In that case, go ahead. I would make it have at least three options reflecting the varying degrees of control: [normal arguments included as a guide]
1 This practice objectifies women and is a smear against the family structure and religious teachings; keep this outlawed
2 The corresponding crime is too great, beatings and theft by pimps, lets allow it in gov regulated areas (like RL Amsterdam) and put a tax and health inspection requirement on it.


And also in RL New Zealand.
Only it's been "Decriminalized" (the beauty of semantics).
And even the "gov. regulated areas" thing gets in the way of law, as they say "Ok...it's been decriminalized, so why can't we set up a brothel wherever we want?". The religious folks and family values minded (and pretty much any decent parent anywhere) doesn't want a brothel anywhere near their homes or schools or churches.
And yet there's only so much room in a city.
Besides - who really wants to go to those districts?


If I were to develop this, I would make 1 and 2 sound rabid and crazy (respectively) with 3 as the most reasoned one. Why? That way, people have slight doubts about their 'normal' choice. Which issues are the best? Those that you can answer mindlessly because it is the same propaganda that you have always heard, or those that present the controversial choice in the best light? I prefer the latter because it gives me the chance to question my beliefs, if only momentarily.
N Prado


Personally I wish there were a way to jumble the choices up so that you have to think about what you're reading, rather than having people know straight up that #1=religio fanatic #2 middle of the road homemaker
#3 Business-minded person etc. for example.
Oh well..
Rejistania
28-02-2004, 18:41
Sorry, IMNSCO this is an issue IRL but should not become an issue INS. Here are children playing this game and prostitution is no topic for them!
Der Angst
28-02-2004, 19:52
Sorry, IMNSCO this is an issue IRL but should not become an issue INS. Here are children playing this game and prostitution is no topic for them!

Did you sort of miss the last fifty years?
Rejistania
28-02-2004, 20:09
Did you sort of miss the last fifty years?
No, why?
29-02-2004, 01:50
More than simply prostitution, this site assumes that you are mature. I have seen and heard of issues dealing with nudists, cannibals, and other things that go bump in the night.

As for the fact that dealing with levels of prostitution is a RLI, have you opened any of the issues that they send you? Have you looked at the UN proposals? All of these deal in some way with real life. If you have been getting issues that ask whether the plum fairy should be thrown out of la-la land, I apologize for assuming that you are or can pretend to be an adult.

Finally, on this entire thread, have you seen any mention of what prostitutes do? No. That, I agree would be inappropriate, but deciding where we stand in this simulation can prepare our fragile opinions for when they are tested in the real world.
Oobag
02-03-2004, 03:10
Yeah, the human sacrifice issue was a great one for kids! Mine thought it was hilarious... 8)


(Kidding, just kidding -- I don't even have any kids.)