NationStates Jolt Archive


Suggestion on unfair representation in NationStates issues

04-02-2004, 04:44
Can anything please be done about the unfair representation of people with beliefs in daily issues?

It just seems like any time a Reverand, Minister or regular person with beliefs is in an issue that they're represented as some kind of over-the-top, out-of-touch-with-reality whack-job!

Just because there are a fair few questionable stereotypes out there, it doesn't mean anyone who believes in God (or otherwise) should be slagged off like a crazed maniac
Naleth
04-02-2004, 06:38
Everyone, or at least almost everyone, in the issues is an unfair, fairly extreme, and steroetipical representation of what a real person would be like. It's the way the game is.
04-02-2004, 07:41
Everyone, or at least almost everyone, in the issues is an unfair, fairly extreme, and steroetipical representation of what a real person would be like. It's the way the game is.

point taken Naleth, except when I get an issue like 'Ban Harry Potter', one that directly refers to Christians and religious crack pots
04-02-2004, 07:48
so what they are :lol:
Rondebosch
04-02-2004, 16:13
point taken Naleth, except when I get an issue like 'Ban Harry Potter', one that directly refers to Christians and religious crack pots

The only people I know (yes, know, not saw on TV) who have been anti Harry Potter have been Christians although, in their defence, I wouldn't call them religious crack pots.
05-02-2004, 03:16
point taken Naleth, except when I get an issue like 'Ban Harry Potter', one that directly refers to Christians and religious crack pots

The only people I know (yes, know, not saw on TV) who have been anti Harry Potter have been Christians although, in their defence, I wouldn't call them religious crack pots.

perhaps you should get to know more of them then, I know there are a lot of weird ones out there but how many 'non-christians' do you know that are weird or extreme?

I suppose there is of course an international issue playing here, depending on what country you're in, Chirstian groups may or may not be more headed one way or the other but where I live they're mostly down to earth
Rondebosch
06-02-2004, 09:36
perhaps you should get to know more of them then, I know there are a lot of weird ones out there but how many 'non-christians' do you know that are weird or extreme?

Ok, firstly, that's a bit broad to define. One man's extreme is another man's normal, I suppose. People/groups that I would consider to be openminded and tolerant may be considered to be extreme and too liberal by more conservative people. I just know that the only anti-Harry Potter people out there seem to be those that have come to the conclusion through something their religion or religious leaders have told them (taught them/guided them/whatever - I'm not insinuating Borg Collective obedience). And, admittedly, when I say "those" I don't just necessarily mean Christians, although they are included. I think, for the relevant issues in the game, they are chosen to represent a viewpoint because they are the most identifiable across cultures. If the issue said "Yois' revered sangoma, Mdikazi Nduma, denounces the book (blah blah)", it's not in a context that you would understand unless you're African. You could figure it out, but it's not an "ingrained" understanding.

With the HP issue, specifically, the "ban" option mentions a "religious leader", not a "Christian religious leader". The "don't ban" option, which is, in its own way liberal inflamatory in its statement, as much as the first option is conservative inflamatory in its suggestion of appropriate (banning) action, mentions Christians, because, culturally, the liberals are going to say things like that, so I just consider it representative of, certainly, my world.

I also don't know anyone who would make a "ban" statement like that, except someone expressing that due to a religious viewpoint.


I suppose there is of course an international issue playing here, depending on what country you're in, Chirstian groups may or may not be more headed one way or the other but where I live they're mostly down to earth
I don't think there is an international issue at play here, and I say this being a South African, as I find this game, as I said, as culturally representative of my world (in terms of ideas and ideologies) as, I assume, it is of Americans and Australians and the British, for example. (Whether the same can be said of Asian or South American ideas and ideologies is beyond my experience to comment.)

I know, am friends with, and have spent much time with Christians, Jews, and Muslims. Some are very, very down to earth. Some are mostly down to earth but have, to my mind, strange ideas about certain things, which seem to have been influenced by their religions.

Anyway, I'm just going to start talking in circles if I continue, so I'll stop here. :)
Emperor Matthuis
07-02-2004, 13:22
Everyone, or at least almost everyone, in the issues is an unfair, fairly extreme, and steroetipical representation of what a real person would be like. It's the way the game is.

point taken Naleth, except when I get an issue like 'Ban Harry Potter', one that directly refers to Christians and religious crack pots



Well that is a racist teacher's remark isn't it, :x